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@Uniq: okay sister. Some people are just something else... I appreciate the update. Btw I still remember the time when you offered me help in a time when I was in deep despair, I truly appreciate you. You are lovely sister in Christ ❤✝️🙏
Just a quick heads up - if you check your comments under Ray's livestream, you'll see that the Lora account has now changed its name to Matheew.
I'm sorry you had to put up with a liar replying to your comment. Stay blessed.
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What jesus pbuh taught the Christians going against it.
They abolished the law.
Jesus pbuh said if you don't keep the commandments no heaven for you
[*FAQ(17) Why are Christians following Pauline literature in addition to Gospels in the Books of New Testament?
Then in the footsteps of the prophets, we sent Jesus, son of Mary, confirming the Torah revealed before him. And we gave him the Gospel containing guidance and light and confirming what was revealed in the Torah-a guide and a lesson to the God-fearing. (Quran 5:48). So they too believe that Torah and Gospel are from God.
Literally Pauline literature such as epistles in the Books of New Testament provide Christians an insight into Gospels, that is it gives interpretation to Gospels, like Hadith and Tafsir which give interpretation to their Holy Book.
For example, Jesus said: "If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him” (John 14:23). Surely people cannot understand the meaning of this scripture. It means God’s spirit (John 4: 24) and Jesus’ spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18) together come and live with us.
[*FAQ(9) Why was Jesus not a created being ?.
The Lord God formed ‘Adam’ from the dust of the ground and gave “Breath of life” or “Spirit of Life”, and the man became a living being (Genesis 2:7), from whom all human beings received spirits in their bodies. God gave this spirit only once at the time of creation of Adam, whereas Human form of Jesus was an “anthropomorphic” image of God, because Spirit of Jesus “Word” was with God and the Word was God in heaven (John 1:1) [Jesus said “God and I are one” (John10:30)]. Human form of Jesus was a begotten son of God. His mother Mary is the source of the "Word" coming into the world in human form.
Dear Brother Arul,
Please consider the following comments to help defend our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I have observed that, in discussions at Speakers' Corner, many Christians struggle to provide satisfactory responses to criticisms. This is often because they have diverged from the authentic spiritual worship practiced by 1st-century Christians.
Moreover, with the influence of Constantine I and the adoption of the Doctrine of the Trinity, there has been a misunderstanding regarding the nature of God. The concept that God is a person deviates from the scriptural teaching that "God is a Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth" (John 4:24). Critics sometimes perceive our worship as akin to idol worship due to these misconceptions.
It is crucial for Christians to return to the true worship practices of the 1st-century believers, aligning our understanding and practices with the original teachings of Jesus and the early Church.
Kind regards,
Thank you for proving you have not read or understood the scriptures. God is Spirit, speaks of what God is not who God is. God is triune, Father Son and Holy Spirit. 3 distinct persons 1 God. We are 1 human being is what we are and 1 person who we are. Saying God is a Spirit shows you add to God's word, to what he revealed. The Bible is God's written word, Jesus is God's Word that became flesh, the divine put on created flesh without ceasing to be God. Jesus had 2 natures, the nature of God and the nature of a human being. Hope this will make you read and understand God's word, the Bible. If you find it's still hard to understand and your heart is sincere then go directly to God in prayer and ask him and he will reveal himself to you. Those who seek shall find. God looks at the heart of man and knows when we're genuinely asking.
Christians worship a God who possesses a spiritual nature, residing in heaven, uncreated, and entirely distinct from any deity characterized by a physical nature.
God is a SPIRIT, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth (John 4:24).
God is Spirit (John 4:24), and Jesus (the Word) is Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18). They co-exist in heaven as one God (SPIRIT), the immortal, eternal, invisible, omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, infinite, and unlimited by any dimensions of time or space.
[Reasons: Jesus said “God is in me and I am in God” (John10:38, John 14:10-11) and “God and I are one” (John10:30) which are same as “Word (Jesus) was with God and Word (Jesus) was God” (John1:1), (ii)“Word” of God is the Spirit of Jesus Christ (Revelation 19:13, John1:1)].
So in heaven God and Word (Jesus) are one and the same God.[Reasons: Jesus said “God and I are one” (John10:30) and Word (Jesus) was God” (John1:1)].
That is why Christians worship Jesus Christ as God.
The Holy Spirit (Helper) (John 14:16, John 15:26) who is also "the Spirit" (John 14:17, John 15:26) is with God. There are many angels who are spirits in heaven to serve God (Hebrews 1:14).
Bible says the God in heaven pours down on earth (Acts 2:17-18, Isaiah 44:3, John7:38-39, Acts2:1-13) “His own spirit” (Romans 8:9&11, 1Corinthians 3:16, Isaiah 11:2, Joel 2:28-29, Haggai 2:5), “Lord’s or Jesus’ Spirit” (2Corinthians 3:17-18, Romans 8:9) and “Holy Spirit” (2Timothy 1:14)] (Trinitarian Spirits) , who are dwelling with Christians.
B. Part (2) Brief description on Jesus’s descension from heaven, crucifixion, death, resurrection and ascension to heaven.
Spirit -Word (Jesus) is a word of God who was sinless, carried Sins of all mankind (2corinthians 5:21) and was separated from God (Isaiah59:2) and came to the world through the Holy Spirit in flesh and blood in human form. Subsequent to crucifixion, death and resurrection, He lived for 40days in this world (Acts1:3). Then He was transformed in SPIRIT form [Jesus is“SPIRIT” (2Corinthians 3:17-18)], ascended to heaven and merged with God and currently theyco-exist asone God (SPIRIT) in heaven.
[Note : The prophesied coming of the SPIRIT of Jesus Christ, referred to as the 'Word' in John 1:14 -The “Word” became flesh and made his dwelling among us”- was clearly foretold by the Prophet Zechariah in 12:10 : “I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a SPIRIT of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced”]
[Merging or joining of Spirits: God is Spirit and Jesus is Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18). Jesus Christ said “God is in me and I am in God” (John10:38) and “God and I are one” (John10:30). Also merging of Spirits is evident when God’s Spirit joins with our spirit and make us God’s Children (Romans 8:16). Similarly, he who joins with Jesus Christ becomes spiritually one with him, ie, Lord’s Spirit Joints with our Spirit (1Corinthians 6:17)].
@@nancymarusic3064 [*FAQ(9) Why was Jesus not a created being ?.
The Lord God formed ‘Adam’ from the dust of the ground and gave “Breath of life” or “Spirit of Life”, and the man became a living being (Genesis 2:7), from whom all human beings received spirits in their bodies. God gave this spirit only once at the time of creation of Adam, whereas Human form of Jesus was an “anthropomorphic” image of God, because Spirit of Jesus “Word” was with God and the Word was God in heaven (John 1:1) [Jesus said “God and I are one” (John10:30)]. Human form of Jesus was a begotten son of God. His mother Mary is the source of the "Word" coming into the world in human form.
[*FAQ (10): Differentiate between the terms "Word of God," "Word," "Sword," and "Double-edged Sword" as mentioned in the Bible.
According to the Bible, the "Word of God," also referred to as the "Word" or the "two-edged sword," is understood as the divine Spirit originating from God, which can be interpreted as either God's Spirit or Jesus' Spirit. Believers are to carefully consider the context in which these terms are used in the Bible verses. For instance, Top of Form.
a) 'WORD OF GOD' AND “WORD”:
1. The Scriptures are commonly known as the 'Word of God,' described in Scripture itself as God's Spirit or 'God-breathed,' and acknowledged as words of divine inspiration (2 Timothy 3:16-17, Hebrews 4:12). In these passages, "Word of God" denotes God's Spirit.
2. The word of God as “living and effective, sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating even between soul and spirit, joints and marrow, and able to discern reflections and thoughts of the heart (Hebrews 4:12) where the term “Word of God” signifies Scripture or God’s Spirit.
3. God’s word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path (Psalm 119:105)
4. The Word (Jesus) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was God (John 1:1) in heaven, where the term "Word" signifies Jesus’ Spirit.
5. Jesus Christ is referred to as the 'Word of God' (Revelation 19:13, John 1:1), existing as a Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18) in heaven, where the term "Word" of God signifies Jesus’ Spirit.
6. The “Words” I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life” (John 6:63), where the term “Words” signifies God’s Spirit.
7. The Word (Jesus) is described as a life-giving spirit (1 Corinthians 15:45) that is living and active (Hebrews 4:12), with the term "Word” signifying Jesus’ Spirit.
8. “The Spirit gives eternal life, the flesh counts for nothing” (John 6:63), where the term "Spirit" signifies Jesus’ Spirit.
9. Jesus drove out an evil spirit with a “Word” and healed all who were sick( Mathew 8:16) , where the term “Word ” signifies God’s Spirit.
10. The “Word” Spirit of Jesus Christ is also God in heaven (John 1:1).
11. However , Spirits of demons will come out of False Prophet (Revelation 16:13-14). Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world (1John4:1-3). He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:4)
b) SWORD OR DOUBLE EDGED SWORD:
1. The two-edged sword refers to the Word of God (Hebrews 4:12), where the term “Word of God” signifies God’s Spirit.
2. A Sharp two edged sword came out of Jesus’ mouth (Revelation 1:16), where the term “two edged sword” signifies God’s spirit.
3. The two-edged sword refers to the Word of God (Hebrews 4:12) where the term “two edged sword” signifies God’s spirit.
4. Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth (Revelation 2:16) where the term “sword” signifies God’s spirit.
5. And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: ‘The words of him who has the sharp two-edged sword (Revelation 2:12), where the term “two edged sword” signifies God’s spirit.
6. And take the helmet of salvation, and the Sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God (Ephesians 6:17). In this verse, "Word of God" or Sword denotes God's Spirit.
[“SWORD” is not physical sword but is a metaphor explaining the “Word of God” or God’s Spirit]
@@nancymarusic3064 *FAQ(21) "Why is the Christian's God not a person?
God is a SPIRIT, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth (John 4:24). So God cannot be a Person. Deuteronomy 4:11, 15 clearly states that God has no form. Some scriptures in the Bible, especially the Old Testament, describe God created man in his own image, with eyes, ears, mouth, and hands. These scriptures are examples of anthropomorphism-the way God is described in anatomical or emotional terms so that humans can better understand Him, which does not imply that God has an actual body. Likewise, God is also referred to as "He" in the Bible, which does not mean that God is a man or a person. [In ancient times, people called the Sun as "He" and “the Earth and the Moon” as "She" because the Sun was stronger than “the Earth and the Moon”. It can be presumed that based on such concept God was called "He"].
[*FAQ (2): What is the biblical relationship between Father and Son in Christianity, and its origin?
The Israelites (Jews) called God “Father” (Isaiah 63:16; 64:8; Jeremiah 3:19; Malachi 2:10). Also, Israelites (Jews) were called “sons of God" (Psalms 82:6, Jeremiah 3:19). Likewise, Jesus being a Jew, called God"Father”. Jesus was called “Only Son of God" because Jesus was Jew, who came from God (John 1:14). [ Main difference : Jews - Sons of God Jesus -Only Son of God]
It is important to note that the earthly relationship between Jesus and God, characterized by Jesus being referred to as the 'Son of God' and God as 'Father,' ceased after Jesus was raised to heaven. They now coexist as one God in heaven. This understanding is affirmed by Jesus' own teachings, including his statements 'God is in me, and I am in God' (John 10:38, John 14:10-11) and 'God and I are one' (John 10:30)
[*FAQ (3): Why is Jesus called both 'God' and the 'Only Son of God’?
(a) IN HEAVEN, JESUS IS GOD FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
Jesus is the 'Word' of God (Revelation 19:13). The Word (Jesus) was with God and the Word (Jesus) was God (John 1:1). God is Spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus (the Word) is Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18) .They coexist in heaven as one God. Therefore, in heaven, God and the Word (Jesus) is one and the same (God). [Reasons: “God is in me and I am in God” (John10:38, John 14:10-11) and “God and I are one” (John10:30)]. This is why; Christians worship Jesus Christ as God in heaven.
(b) JESUS IS “ONLY SON OF GOD”:
The meaning of “Only Son of God” is given in FAQ(2).
It is applicable when Jesus was in this world, not in heaven. In the world He was fully divine in human form (Colossians 2:9). His flesh was not divine, but the Spirit “Word” in him was divine immortal, eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient, who was from God (John 1:1). “The Spirit gives eternal life, the flesh counts for nothing” (John 6:63). He was the only begotten Son of God that is, born of a mortal mother and an immortal God Father. God resurrected Jesus from death (Mathew 28:6).
So the Physical body of Jesus Christ is not God, His Spirit “Word” is God in heaven only (John 6:63, John 1:1). [Jesus said “God and I are one” (John10:30)].That is why Jesus never said to worship Him when he was in this word.
[*FAQs(4): Where did Jesus say that He was the "Son of God"?
1. Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live (John5:24)
2. Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God. Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven (Mathew 16:16-17)
3. Jesus said about himself “Son of God” in John 5:17-23
4. Jesus asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?” So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered and said, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God'(Mathew 16:13-16)
[*FAQs (5): Did Jesus call himself "God"? Did Jesus tell people to worship him?
(a) JESUS SAID “HE IS GOD IN HEAVEN”:
Jesus said “God and I are one” (John10:30). Moreover Jesus said “Very truly I tell you,” “before Abraham was born, I am!” (John 8:58). “I am” is God in heaven. It is same as God said unto Moses, “I Am That I Am: and he said, thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you” (Exodus 3:7-8, 13-14). “I AM” is referred to God.
In heaven, God is Spirit (John 4:24), and Jesus (the Word) is also Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18). They co-exist as One God. The Word (Jesus) is God in heaven (John 1:1), and he remains God in heaven today and forever (Titus 2:13, 1 John 5:20). This is why Christians worship him.
Jesus is “God” in heaven and was “Son of God” on the earth (John 5:17-23, Mathew 16:13-17). [See *FAQ(3) for clarity].
(b) WHAT ARE THE REASONS WHY JESUS NEVER TOLD HIS FOLLOWERS TO WORSHIP HIM WHEN HE WAS IN THE WORLD?
1. Jesus came to the world by separation from God carrying sins of mankind (Isaiah59:2)
2. Physical body of Jesus Christ is not God; His Spirit “Word” is God (John 1:1).“The Spirit gives eternal life, the flesh counts for nothing” (John 6:63).
Literally Physical Jesus shouldn’t be worshipped. But some disciples worshiped him after experiencing the power of the Spirit (Word) in him.
[*FAQs(6):Why did Jesus say “My God is their God” and “Only Father knew the day of Judgement”? . And why did Jesus pray to God? On the cross He said “My God, My God why did you abandon me” why?
God is Spirit (John 4:24), and Jesus (the Word) is also Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18). They co-exist in heaven as one God.
God will definitely separate from anyone who Sins (Isaiah59:2). Since the innocent Jesus himself carried Sins of all mankind (1Peter2:24), the Word (Jesus) inevitably separated from the God and came on the world in flesh and blood in human form. When Jesus was in the world He was fully divine in human form (Colossians 2:9). His flesh was not divine, but the Spirit “Word” in him was divine. Due to separation from God, Jesus prayed to God and said Father is greater than I etc. Aforesaid facts are the answers to all questions contained in above FAQs(6)].
[*FAQs (7): Why is Jesus God in heaven? And why is Jesus not a Prophet?
(a) IN HEAVEN, JESUS IS GOD FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
Jesus is the 'Word' of God (Revelation 19:13). The Word (Jesus) was with God and the Word (Jesus) was God (John 1:1). God is Spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus (the Word) is Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18) .They coexist in heaven as one God. Therefore, in heaven, God and the Word (Jesus) is one and the same (God). [Reasons: “God is in me and I am in God” (John10:38, John 14:10-11) and “God and I are one” (John10:30)]. This is why; Christians worship Jesus Christ as God in heaven.
(b) WHEN JESUS WAS ON EARTH HE WAS NOT A PROPHET BUT THE "SON OF GOD" FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
In heaven God is Spirit (John 4:24), and Jesus (the Word) is Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17-18). They co-exist as one God in heaven. Word (Jesus) carried Sins of all mankind (2corinthians 5:21) and was separated from God (Isaiah59:2) and came to the world through the Holy Spirit in flesh and blood in human form.
When Jesus was in the world He was fully divine in human form (Colossians 2:9). His flesh was not divine, but the Spirit “Word” in him was divine immortal, eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient [John 1:1]. “The Spirit gives eternal life, the flesh counts for nothing” (John 6:63). He was the only begotten Son of God that is, born of a mortal mother and an immortal God Father. God resurrected Jesus from death (Mathew 28:6). He was full of grace, truth, and glory (John 1:14), and had the power to forgive the sins of mankind (Matthew 9:6) and perform many miracles, signs, and wonders. Moreover, Jesus after resurrection breathed the Holy Spirit into the disciples (John 20:21-22). Many of the things he prophesied about the future had already taken place in Jerusalem. Jesus will come to judge people on judgment day.
Prophets were only ordinary men received messages directly from God, mainly concerning events that would take place in the future, and conveyed them to people. However, like man they will be cast in to hell unless they repent of their sins, if any, committed. A prophet being a human cannot come and judge people on the Judgement day; he has to face Christ like us. [Since prophet is a human being he cannot be a word of God and cannot come to the world through Holy Spirit. Moreover a Prophet cannot be raised from dead].
In the earth He was “Only son of God” - Meaning: “Jesus is a Jew, who came from God”. [Reasons: The Israelites (Jews) called God as Father (Isaiah 63:16; 64:8; Jeremiah 3:19; Malachi 2:10). Also, Jews were called “Sons of God” (Psalms 82:6, Jeremiah3:19). Likewise, being a Jew Jesus called God as “Father” and he was being called “Only Son of God” Differ: Jews -“Sons of God” and Jesus -“Only Son of God”].
Based on the aforementioned facts, Jesus is not merely a Prophet; He is God in heaven.
It’s the dimensions ;, the physics,, three dimensional, time compression, don’t say you don’t believe, it isn’t there !!! Law of physics and all God is outside the time and he can be anywhere in time space , matter and because he the creator……… In the beginning there was word and became flesh and through everything was created which includes physics too he can’t be ordinary human then why we talk …. And why not anyone came from the dead position till so, far … why not others din’t dare to make a story of resurrection….. now to conclude, it happened with Jesus only I mean resurrection even there are so many false religions even dare to make their Gods like Hindu or Islam talking about resurrection their Gods resurrection… even including Roman, Greek, religion also (Gods) were eaten by worms …. The Gods were limited and that doesn’t qualify them to be True Gods … Jesus died and Resurrected…
Satan is the god for Muslim PRAY TO POSITIVE GOD IS JESUS
If you believe jesus is god you become fuel of he'll fire. Imagine God urinating and opening bowls behind rocks and bushes this not qualify of god
"it never happened and it will never happen again"
That statement argues with itself. 😂
1:17:00 is where arul is ranting and talking gibberish 😂😂 he is worse than Sadhguru, more nonsensical than ever. 😂
The man is asking a question about purity, the questionnaire is trying to test him. Just Google it.
I know arul the garbage man does not make any sense