Could This Be The RTS Of 2024? | Homeworld 3 Gameplay [AD]
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- We haven't had that many huge RTS successes in recent years and Homeworld 3 is a hopeful in 2024. Today we get to check out some actual HW3 gameplay in solo and co-op missions, so let's see what the game is really like. Click here to check out Homeworld 3: bit.ly/HomeworldGamerZakh - For more info, join the Homeworld 3 Discord at / discord Thanks to Gearbox Publishing for sponsoring.
Tactical sci-fi RTS returns with Homeworld 3. Control and battle through fleet combat in a fully 3D space while the story unfolds on a galactic scale. Or take on real-time strategy in co-op or competitive multiplayer with the roguelite mode, War Games.
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0:00 | What is Homeworld 3?
1:40 | Homeworld 3 Gameplay First Try
20:56 | Very Good Try Gameplay
1:07:10 | Multiplayer Co-op Gameplay
1:44:49 | Settings & Options Overview
1:49:23 | History of Homeworld Story Cinematic
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For real, the key layout and trouble with changing the controls is Deserts of Kharak all over again. Makes it look like interns are doing the coding on every project at BBI.
The camera keys are a major failure. Time alteration can be done by holding P and using the mouse scroll, so why couldn’t they provide alternative rising and descending based on that? Could’ve reduced camera movement by several keys. Dumbing down controls to draw in fps hordes of below 100 IQ is one thing, screwing up “classic controls” is another.
I hope zooming in and out with both mouse buttons held is still possible. Scrolling is a waste of time. Glad CCP incorporated that in EVE Online.
The ships seem like papier-mâché. It's even worse than remaster. Carriers used to have as much or even more (classic HW) armor than destroyers. Now a battlecruiser has 3x their hull, and vaporizes one in 10 seconds.
Individual fighter size compared to the carrier, makes the models look goofy. The carrier’s side docking bay is obviously too narrow to allow docking and undocking of strike craft without clipping. I didn’t see whether support and torpedo frigates can even leave the main dock without clipping.
Why are there “railgun corvettes” in Homeworld 3, 215 years after reaching Hiigara, when the fighter projectile weapons in HW1 were already mass drivers??
Then there’s the UI screen obstruction. Just, damn! HW1 in 99 had completely retractable UI. Half of the trash choking the screen could be left out. And the loathsome "Initiate Hyperspace" button in War Games... Friggin' move it, BBI!
Last but not least, denuvo. Because we weren't discouraged enough to buy it. If Gearbox expects big sales, remind them of the requirements. It's not just the price of the game, but some of us will have to invest in new hardware.
The Matrix was right -- 99 was the peak of human civilization. It's been on a downward slope ever since.
Congrats on the 200K man, being watching your videos since the first Caesar III playthrough, you are one of my favorites UA-camrs out there keep up the good work🥳🥳
Thank you so much! I'll keep trying to get better!
I'm glad the music still sounds appropriately epic
Yeah I think they nailed the music early on
Its the same composer for all homeworld games.
Homeworld 1, Cataclysm and 2 is such a huge part of my childhood, man the memories.
When bought the game at black market in st petersburg the "clerk" said it was the best he had ever played :)
Да
И он был прав. Ни одна другая игра в мире не смогла меня так поразить с первого раза как Homeworld когда-то далеко в детстве - мне сразу стало ясно что такого уровня RTS с полноценно реализованными тремя степенями свободы перемещений в пространстве никто ещё не делал и вряд-ли собирается всерьез делать т. к. это ниша не для двумерных казуалов, здесь особая каста ценителей.
Really like that they're taking the things they developed in Deserts of Kharak and adding it to Homeworld... upgrades and progression is gonna go a long way towards keeping the game more fresh. Also hoping I get to turn the Mothership into the "mother" of all capital ships(in terms of firepower etc) in the campaign ^^
No unit veterancy, units die very fast, no flank bonus, not even attack move (red movement disc) is in the game. it's amazing how the RTS game devs are getting progressively worse.
I tried the demo, but didn't play too long since I got frustrated by the camera controls. Currently you can't rebind all controls. The game runs fine, but I didn't expect much since it doesn't look much better than the originals.
both this and broken arrow are going to be exceptional , the broken arrow open beta is already a blast
I can't wait for the release! Love space games since Homeworld 1!
This looks very intriguing!
i tried it out and fairly enjoyed it i just didint like the idea of the first time trying out the game being the roguelite coop mode. i would of liked a short singleplayer experience or pvp or pvAI skirmish mode
I too am wanting to try those out haha. As soon as I can try the campaign and skirmish I will.
Remember when HW1 was advertised with - giant battles and its revolutionary minimalist interface featuring an incredible focus-based camera 360 camera control scheme!
Seriously what happened?
I've played some HW1, how much bigger did the battles get? because they feel pretty big here. In the 3-player portion, we each can have around 50-70 units, plus about 50 units from the enemy, the battles are ranging from 50-200 units flying around. Skirmish is meant to support up to 6 players. And the focus-based 360 camera is an option in HW3, you can see the choice of settings at 1:48:36, is that what you mean? I'm just more of a recent HW player, so I prefer the modern control scheme. Would love if you can elaborate because I wanna understand the classic perspective better.
@@GamerZakh I think perhaps it's a perspective issue. All of a sudden the fleets are the smallest thing in the game, hidden under UI, dwarfed by ship wreckage that surrounds them. With the modified controls and the WASD inclusion this means the camera default more likely sits back rather than being inside of the action. Homeworld 1 was hailed as having an incredible minimalist interface, there is nothing on the screen but maybe small health bars - the ships scaled in the background and had unique silhouettes to keep visual clarity and the UI NEVER breaks the visuals. This new game packs so much UI it's insane. Everything is overlaid on the ships to the point where the game looks like overlapping glowing symbols instead of a Chris Foss painting. I frankly didn't even like remaster for the overdone UI, my Girl and I are designers, this new game makes my head spin. It's like moving from C&C to Tiberian Sun, but far larger of a move. Overdesign? Antidesign? I'm not sure which. But they just delayed the game for these complaints this morning...
Looks like my follow-up got thrown out, I had some screenshots showing off what I was talking about... Love to talk sometime, also I have a game coming to nextfest ( with any luck you'll hear about it ! )
@@sunburystudios8234 Ugh I hate when UA-cam does that. It's not even in my moderation folder to approve.
Sense of scale is a hard thing to accomplish. It has more to do with ship design and overall look and feel, they try so hard here to give you fidelity of individual models, but have no sense of scale. The devs here also have no idea how to design a functional UI. Everything is bloated and look like they were from the last millennium. The game mode is also highly suspect. And then there's Denuvo... in a demo? THey're either incredibly lazy, or just don't care. Probably both.
Despite some of the complaints I’m still looking forward to this. Rob Cunningham the lead developer behind this is one of the original founders of relic that brought us Homeworld, DoW and CoH. He has a strong pedigree in the world of RTS games and I know he’ll be committed to getting this right which is why they have delayed. Tbf us strategy gamers have much higher standards than mainstream AAA gamers often have. No offence
I really hope the devs don't get too disheartened with the negativity around the game right now. They have till May to fix all the issues that have been flagged up, I have faith they'll do the Homeworld franchise justice. Great Let's Play.
It looks awesome ! With the Steam next fest, I tried a bunch of RTS and I've been disappointed by a couple.
Homeworld 3, I pre-ordered it without looking too much into it, just trusting the devs... Now, at least, I know that one will be good.
You should still try the demo to make sure performance is okay. Unless you have a beast of a PC of course, in which case it's pretty optimised.
@@GamerZakh I updated my rig not so long ago so I''m pretty confident there too.
(still need better screens though)
If I have troubles running it, I will shoot myself :(
@@mesarthim640 You should be fine then no worries!
@@GamerZakh Have you tried other RTS of the steam next fest? Just tried Moduwar and it's a good surprise TBH. Pretty fun even if there is a bit of clunkyness here and there on the pathfinding.
@@mesarthim640 I've tried Moduwar before but not the latest demo. I was about to try Stormgate but I got a migraine right as I launched it haha, so have tried it yet.
Looks very promising, I hope it will have an option to adjust the difficulty, as Homeworld 2 was a really hard game. But the original Homeworld is a masterpiece.
I played the original Homeworld, I love the idea, but the whole 360 degree combat was too much for me a master.
Делаю ставку на режим PvP. Надеюсь что сражения в этом режиме будут яркие, динамичные и вариативные. Хочу что-бы игра вошла в киберспорт.
I want a new supreme commander
There's a few trying to be the next one, I got them in my strategy list.
You might want to give Beyond All Reason a shot.
Beyond All Reason is the best right now, and it is/will forever be free.
Sanctuary shattered sun
If we get a new Supreme Commander, and it'll be as bad compared to SC2, as SC2 was to SCFA, you'll choke on those words ^_^
Is there a follow camera?
Yes there is, I follow units frequently through the video.
does this series have Boarding Actions? I've always been disappointed by spaceship games never having boarding actions to capture ships in a fight with marines.
Homeworld 1-2 had the ability to capture ships (hw 2 had marine/infiltrator frigates), I’m sure that will be still a thing. But I wouldn’t expect it to be another game level, just a selectable action for a specific ship guided by a status bar.
in HW1, you have salvage corvettes that can latch to an enemy ship and tow them back to your Mothership for capture
In HW2, there's Infiltrator Frigates or Marine Frigates which can directly board enemy ships and then capture them on the spot, but it's only shown by a progress bar.
In HW3, you use resource collectors to to capture enemy ships, acting the same way as Salvage corvettes from HW1, they latch to the enemy ship, then tow them back to the Mothership for capture.
These ships are sexy. All you can fix this game - add realistic space battle (with laser incoming from another part of planetary system)
I can't really fault the graphics for sure. As for lasers from another part of the system, isn't that limited by the speed of light? Hitting planets or bases is okay but you wouldn't be able to hit any ships with accuracy.
@@GamerZakh Ok, then from 100 megameter. I want artillery form in this game present. Not only face-to-face battle.
what are your PC specs?
I have an RTX 3080, 32GB RAM, and AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX. Though 30% of everything is generally taken up by streaming and recording.
wait is that actually the lore of the massive derelict objects? older tech?
I'm pretty sure? I mean, this isn't even set in the Milky Way. Humans were intergalactic at some point and now they have to scrounge for interstellar tech. I'm assuming the giant derelicts are remnants of something much older.
@@GamerZakh sometimes things are best kept mysterious
@@GamerZakh Pour one out for the Bentusi, they probably knew... too bad they're all gone!
@@wizoldthebard The Progenitors were of human origin too. It's been stated in HW2 their ship interfaces were compatible with Hiigaran ones. It's a Rare Earth / Firstborn universe, where humans had spread across multiple galaxies over 10k years ago, with no advanced aliens in sight (though Kharakian lifeforms suggests even complex life is abundant). A perfectly reasonable setting.
What else did you think the massive derelicts could be, rather than "old tech"? You'd prefer some mysterious, magical Force? Were you also bummed by the introduction of midichlorians in star wars? Silly.
no I'd just prefer no explanation whatsoever, leave it upto your imagination@@riesstiu2khunning
I'd been excited for this game for years. Then they released an update for the remastered edition which wrecked the docking system (in classic as well as remastered) with absurd glitches that basically made the game unplayable. Now I just don't believe hw3 is going to be any good. Maybe they've fixed those glitches now, idk, but it's absurd that someone broke what was a 24 year old game at the time.
Yeah that was a bit of a mess. I think that's why the free demo now and even in the tutorial it's specifically points out the ballistics simulation haha. You can at least give it a try now and see if they put back in what you're looking for. I don't know if they'll have another demo before release.
Pathing looks broken, ships are too flimsy like homeworld 2. Formations dont seem to work on the fly like H1. I dont like what i see. But hey we shall see. Thanks Zakh.
Wow...
Wait I thought Broke Arrow is the next best RTS?
Many don't even consider that an RTS but an RTT because of base building and resource collection.
Still very bad fps drop ( rx 7900xtx ) not really happy with this game
That card is supposed to be equivalent to an RTX 4080 right? I have a 3080 and don't have that much of an FPS drop. Might be unrelated to your GPU.
i like the music by homeworld, its fantastic. but i dont like the gameplay, i am more C&C player :-) did you test red chaos the strict order demo on steam?
Yea if its to complicated to get into im not interested..And this does not interest me one bit.
really c&c was more complicated you are kidding right @@diego2817
No attack move, cookie cutter unit abilities, no directional flanking bonuses. This game is a shell of it's former HW1 and 2 self. Just play Nebulous : Fleet Command if you want a 3D space game that isn't dumbed down. Although if you want that casual experience, then yeah HW3 is just doing the bare minimum for an RTS.
For context, there's basically no more combat maneuvers. Combat in HW3 is simple, you enter gun range, you stop, you shoot. Whoever has the bigger ships win, that's it. No actual tactics involved, because for the very simple reason that most units can't fire while moving / attack move (or is severely penalized for doing so).
There has been a significant contingent of the Homeworld fanbase that has only ever liked HW 1, and claimed every follow up since has been in its own way, garbage.
I will only agree that keys should be rebindable, and the ui can be toggable, but saying the game doesn’t graphically look better graphically or in detail, is nostalgia glasses. Playing HW classic today, the textures are blatantly pixelated on low poly models, just really fantastic art direction by rob cunningham, who as far as I can tell, is still heavily involved at BBI.
Games delayed until May 24’ due to how bad the feedback has been.
Yet another delay. I’m happy they want to make it perfect but constant disappointment and let down so close to release each time is pissing me off to be honest.
At least provide a discount because of all the let downs.
They're doing pre-order already with a triple A price tag. THis game has so many red flags that anyone pre-orders this deserves to be scammed.
From all the marketing material + the demo... it seems to be more and more apparent this is a game that is mainly geared towards the competitive multiplayer crowd, if the campaign is weak I wont even consider spending a dime. Seriously hope i'm proven wrong thoo!
Will this turn into another failed DoW3 repeat where they basically only catered the multiplayer crowd with a slapped on crappy sinple-player campaign as an afterthought? That is neglecting the majority... (Yupp many play the campaign and then jump to greener pastures... while the multiplayer competitive crown play it for longer times... Would seem the sngleplayer crown in these kind of tites far outnumber the mainly multiplayers)
It's obvious by now that's the case. I'm surprised by all the glowing review. This isn't homeworld, this is just another cookie cutter CoH game.
@@zxbc1 Not to mention the price. None of the installments reached 20 missions so far, and were adequately priced for what they offered. This one should have an even longer campaign by comparison, but let's not kid ourselves.
I really like the video I’m happy that their are indie devs making new RTS games, but I’m still sad that people still think RTS games are dead even though indie devs still make new RTS games.
The steam page is full of hate on the game
And youtube loves it
There's mixed opinions for a few reasons. First, from what I can tell, Homeworld 3 does a lot of modernisations which new players like but classic players don't. Then, there was a lot of stuff that went down over the last 3 years with the Fig campaign and all that, so now it feels like there's a good number of people looking for reasons why the game is bad and they're hoping it fails as a kind of punishment. Some criticism is valid, like complaints of crashes or wanting more hotkey options. Other complaints are barely anything to mention, like some are complaining the game defaults to modern camera controls instead of classic, even though the onboarding screen asks you which you want. Then there are complaints that are just wrong, like some people say focus-style camera doesn't exist, when it's an option.
End of the day, whatever people say isn't going to matter much. It's always a case where if it's a good game, it'll sell well and be well reviewed. If it's a bad game it won't be. After covering games for so long, I've found speculation fun but eventually it's all just guessing, so I'll take it as it comes. For now, for me, this War Games demo is relatively fun, performance was as good as I could expect, and I like the modern controls. I do want more hotkey options and 2 more audio sliders though.
@GamerZakh this was kinda a joke witch I could've specified but on the steam page it's a lot of complains that aren't relevant like bug in a game not set to release for 3 months
@@GamerZakh Bad games sell just the same, it's about marketing. Games nowadays have to be REALLY bad to get review bombed, just average bad will totally make money back because of pre-orders and crowd-funding.
@@zxbc1 We're saying the same thing, it's just where we draw the line for 'good' is different. I mean exactly what you just said.
the main menu and U.I looks horrible and so bad.Its like playing mobile game on tablet.What where they thinking ?.The graphics and sound design looks awesome , and the music too.I hope there will be a classic Skirmish mode vs A.I.I think would be better to play in empty space , because the ground terrain scattered in the space is so annoying.Units cant even avoid it.Over all I have mixed feeling.Homeworld 1,2 are classic and I love them.
They say there will be skirmish mode. To quote, "Skirmish Mode is where you can go head to head against friends, strangers, and the computer in classic deathmatch-style brawls. In Homeworld 3, Skirmish Mode supports up to a max of six players and you can set teams freely."
And "When Homeworld 3 launches, we’re going to have eight skirmish maps available to fight in" plus "thanks to our partnership with Mod.io, you’ll soon have dozens (if not many more) Skirmish maps to choose from thanks to our brilliant community of modders."
That's what they say anyway.
Personally, I am no longer looking forward to this release. I found units unresponsive and they would float around eachother rather than manoeuvre. This is understandable in a demo though. What does concern me is this MOBA-fication of what was once a patient, star gazing, thoughtful planning RTS. Fast paced zerg rushing whilst managing various systems? I find it tedious. Hopefully there will be other modes and expansion of playstyle but I am not going to hold my breath. I am tasting Dawn of War 3 with this game.
Skirmish and story campaign are confirmed, so standard game modes are coming.
@@GamerZakh Naturally.
I was hoping for a ''Galactic Conquest'' mode a la Empire at War.
The MOBA-fication will be the norm, modern players are hard conditioned to think that's what MP means.
@@zxbc1 A whole generation of gambling addicts...
Not really a big fan of advertising.
Well I have unsponsored Homeworld 3 coverage if you prefer that? I cover video games, other people's products. Everything I do promotes something, whether I'm paid to do it or not. My last video was a Train list, none of them sponsored me but that's 12 games that are inherently being promoted by my video. Many say that's advertising.
Just for reference, you can watch these videos instead. Without sponsorship I listed Homeworld 3 in my RTS list: ua-cam.com/video/17jlpeBuUVI/v-deo.html
I was talking about Homeworld 3 as an upcoming game as far back as my 2020 lists: ua-cam.com/video/-z6RyKMAHoQ/v-deo.html
I made a Homeworld 1 video 4 years ago: ua-cam.com/video/GOwZgmsjxBE/v-deo.html
And I played Deserts of Kharak 8 years ago: ua-cam.com/video/tUOs5Z5safw/v-deo.html
No way it will be the game it supposed to be. I can't find the enjoyment in the demo like I used to in previous game. Too many unnecessary micro managements, awful control schema, combining the unfriendly terrians in the map, making it too exhausting to play.
I'm enjoying it quite a lot, part of the challenge was using good micro to outflank opponents in HW2 especially and also in Deserts of Kharrak.
That UI is vomit-inducing... seriously, it's been 20+ years and we still have no improvement to this floaty HUD 30% of your screen covered by UI scheme? There's no reason for the size of a lot of these panels, they could shrink down or even remove or contextualize 90% of it. That entire build panel could be condensed to a small square grid with contextualized tooltips, that big command panel could be a simple radial popup on hotkey/mouseclick. There doesn't seem to be any form of advanced AI or camera control, everything seems like a game from the previous millennium. Hard pass for me, no effort went into innovation, just rehashing the old game with modern graphics (and somehow manage to reduce the sense of scale). All the bad press they got during development might prove to be just indication of how bad the devs are.
Those changes you propose are all shit.
@@umadbroimatroll7918 Don't be mad just because I badmouth your shitty game. This game's devs have trashed their reputation and now their game is turning out nothing even close to inspiring, just rehashing old franchise with new graphics. How much did they pay you to troll critics? Be honest.
@@zxbc1 lol, I wish I got payed for speaking the truth. Truth is radial menus are shit, sense of scale in homeworld 3 is huge, build menu is closed 90% of the time, so ui does not take up 30% of screen. How much are you payed to say nonsense? 🤣
@@umadbroimatroll7918 Homeworld Remastered has better UI than this crap.
@@umadbroimatroll7918 Build menu is closed 90% of the time? How much is it closed here in this video? Stop shilling already, this game will be garbage and you know it.
This man is delightful. I want him to babysit my kids. Whether he wants to or not.
Lol I spent years as a highschool teacher, so there's a chance I already have.
It's a good thing I love Homeworld 2. Is this Homeworld 2?
Seriously, it's a little worrying that the very first sound effect we hear (a ship hyperspacing in) is the exact same one from Homeworld 2. That's such an easy thing to update. So if they didn't update that...
Iconic old sounds are often never changed because people love them too much.