Dewalt FLEXVOLT 54V 125mm Grinder | Brushless 5-inch DCG414
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- Опубліковано 30 гру 2016
- The FlexVolt 54V Grinder from Dewalt seems to be in a league of its own. It claims to have better than corded performance. oztooltalk have put it through its paces to find out whether the 125mm DCG414 can backup those big claims.
In North America, it is referred to as a 60V Max 5" grinder.
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Can't wait for the circ saw review. Happy new year!
[Dwain] us too! So excited....
i got flexvolt recip saw first in a kit and was so impressed with power and the anti stall got the grinder as a birthday treat and was blown away how light how bloody powerfull it is for a 5 inch cutter. i have a stihl 2 stroke disk cutter for slabs and i beams but this little bugger looks at a job and goes yea i can do that and it does it. no cables no petrol. one thing i will say against it in British winter the batterys really dont like the cold and they arent as easy to remove or handle as 18v dewalt they can be stiff. but what does the competition have on it nothing so ill take the draw backs. plus im so glad to get ride of my 240v cutter with the dogey cable i didnt feel safe using it and this gives a huge boost of confidence and sense of security thanks de walt !!!
(mike) Thats fantastic to hear from a bloke who is clearly on a jobsite all day ! 👍
Best damn cordless grinder on the market. Have used this flat out everyday for nearly 3+ years, been plenty of times where i thought it was going to fail but it just keeps on going.
thats awesome
Rip your house windows.
I like that the batteries are compatible with 18v skins as well.
[Dwain] yep pretty sweet.
That grinder is a beast
i have that 1200 watts dewalt grinder, i love it, actually there is just a 2 second difference when cutting with the flexvolt, just 2 seconds and a huge difference in price
Your dog is like whats all the racket going on out here lol great review
[Dwain] hehe, thanks jerry.
Hi mate. Hows that glass on that window looking now? the sparks will etch into glass. I leant this the hard way too!
I've got this grinder but I'm little bit desapointed. Cause I flip it the blade to my right side when cutting for some reason, and when I change the blade it gets stuck. I can't remove it...I've use a pipe wrench bar just to took it off the blade
Again, I have this grinder. Just a quick word........put the thinnest disc you can find in it, I used a Flexovit 0.8mm......and this grinder will slice through 1" square steel bar. Great tool. Keep a smaller 18v grinder handy though as the DeWalt can be a bit unwieldy if working under floors and in tight areas.
errol kim good tip mate, thanks 👍🏼👍🏼 (mike)
Hello there,
Is there any hope of getting a ''Multi tool shootout''?
Thinking about getting one but not sure which and you guys are very good at giving a simple overview.
Regards from Estonia ;)
Hmm it's not on the radar right now. I would pick Makita or Bosch or Fein personally.
Are you guys ever planning to compare this grinder against the other competitors (such as the new 36v hikoki grinder etc.)
If we review a high voltage/power grinder, the FV is the first one we'll pull out as the benchmark.
I like the grip you have, thats the one thing I am not a fan of my dewalt grinders, is the 100% hard plastic side handle.. I see there is an aftermarket dewalt one but in all the stores that list compatible grinders.. I do not see any cordless ones on there. I am assuming they are all the same bolt, I dont think ive ever seen one that was a different size.. Can you tell me about the yellow and black one you have on yours?
i think the cheaper ones have the hard plastic yellow handle. the 1400/1500W grinders also have this more ergonomic side handle.
You should try the sds max rotary hammer. It's an absolute beast. I'm an electrician and the 60v max line has allowed me to take the generator off my truck for good.
[Dwain] I have it! Will be reviewing in next few weeks. That's exactly the sort of feedback that Dewalt would be hoping for :)
Oz Tool Talk
I'm not a fan boy, but it's the truth. This new platform is changing the game. The backwards compatibility with the old 20v tools was a stroke of genius. Also did you know that the dual voltage allows them the ship these batteries by air, which is something Milwaukee can't do with their 18v 9 amp hour batteries because of regulations in lithium batteries. Freaking brilliant.
[Dwain] It's pretty clever, though in reality just exploiting a hole in the rules. I also like the flexvolt system a lot.
How would u compare it with the Milwaukee Fuel with the 9.0? Happy new year!
[Dwain] I haven't used a 9Ah yet, but this is in a different league to the Fuel unit (which I own and love)
Oz Tool Talk i run 180mm poly weave strip discs with my m18 fuel grinder and 9.0 batterys there amazing!
the Best dewalt
Does dewalt have a rebar cutter battery operated. Like makita. Need to know
[Dwain] No, Hitachi does though. Dewalt have a threaded rod cutter.
id like to see a battery powered grinder showdown with all the leading brands
[Dwain] mmm us too. Hopefully later in the year!
This is a real nice and powerful unit, but if you need a 9" cordless grinder you have to go to metabo. There are 2 models which take either a 36V battery (6.2Ah with 20 20700 cells) or 2 18V batteries.
Ive yet to see them on the market?
Dwayne, great vids, detailed, informative however my frustration with dewalt (not yourself) is that they market this grinder with 2 different specs.
America get 9000 rpm and the option of running a 150mm guard and discs.
Us aussies only get 7000rpm and 125mm max disc diameter with this awesome grinder (considering ebaying an American version!!no warranty!!!)
I am a fitter and Turner who uses 125mm 1mm cut off discs for all sorts of jobs, if I could have 12mm extra on the radius it would make a big difference on some operations.
Can any one shed light on this injustice?
I dig the metabo flat head grinder too but for some reason it has been clipped for the 150mm version as well!
Pferd sell 150mm cutoff discs,flap discs etc here in Australia (albeit a limited range) yet we don't have available tools to run than on!
Sorry to rant/hijack but I am in the process of spending up and frustrated by our choices!
[Dwain] hey Darrell, thanks for the question. The flexvolt grinder in Aus has 9000 RPM too (mine certainly does!). I asked Dewalt previously about this, and it really just comes down to the guards that are included, the actual grinder is the same unit. If you can find the 6" guard, then go for your life !
Going into the store tomorrow Dwain will check the spec on rpm.
Will be all go if they are the same, I can get a guard from the U.S. on eBay.
This things gonna be awesome!
I want a 6" guard too!
It’s a beast on 54V - Nothing to compare with 18V or 36V Try it with the 54V-3Ah (18V-9Ah) and the extreme runtime blades who are made especially for whirless tools
[Dwain] Yeah I think the 9Ah batteries would be well worth it for this tool, agreed.
What's the model number for that 1500watt corded grinder??
D28136 I believe
Oz Tool Talk actually found it's the Dewalt DWE4257-XE. The one you wrote looks to be the older version. But thanks. Have the flexvolt grinder and it's an animal, now to add this to the collection aswell :)
reckon you're right, sorry.
How would you say it compared to the Milwaukee fuel version?
[Dwain] the Flexvolt grinder is WAY more powerful than any 18V grinder.
What’s the run time?
[Dwain] how long is a piece of string? ;) Hard grinding, maybr 10-15 mins. You saw how much reo i cut on one battery ....
True, I’m just trying to see how other people feel about it because I have completely full Milwaukee line up and I’m trying to figure out it I should invest in one dewalt grinder when you say it only runs about 10-15 which is what Milwaukee will run about on 5.0 and about 40 minutes with 9.0 battery which I already have the batteries because of my other tools and the price of Milwaukee is about $200 for bare tool which I would need $700 for the same dewalt model you have
[Dwain] Yeah I understand your situation. I think it's probably a reasonable rule to say that the Dewalt 6Ah FV batteries would do roughly equal work than the Milwaukee would on 6Ah batteries, but would do it much faster. The FV 9Ah batts would likely do significantly more work than M18 9Ah batts due to the different battery cells (20700) inside.
Can we put chainsaw attachment on this grinder?
Not sure. I've never done this on any grinder.
N how if we put 60v battery?
54V = 60V Max. Same battery, different branding.
can you review the alligator saw
[Dwain] Hi David, sorry I don't think it's in our list :( would have been cool. I used one at a Dewalt show and thought it was pretty impressive.
okay nice. do you think it would be a good replacement for a chainsaw/recipro saw or better off staying with the ones I have
[Dwain] well if you are cutting Hebel, yes its the way to go. If you're cutting timber, then I think a chainsaw/recipro combo is better. If you can only buy ONE product, then perhaps this tool is the best all-rounder. But I haven't tried it enough to know...
I would never choose a standard cutting disc over a narrow kerf disc...much faster and much safer!
Ha ha ha @ 5:17 - you're using 1" cutting discs? Those things must be absolute bullets and cost a fortune for slicing through that metal!
On a another note isn't it great that a cordless unit at 54v can match units that operate at 110v or 230v by mains worldwide.
In the UK we have 240v and 13 amp home sockets, so tools can draw saw 10 amps easily for a total of 2400 watts without flipping a breaker switch and this will match all 5" grinders currently on the market i'd imagine.
The flexvolt range will change the construction industry around the world! Big statement but true. In the UK the cabling requirements for power tools on sites are super strict, above head height and with cable holds along hallways. The ability to get rid of super heavy 110v transformers, the cabling all whilst matching their performance can not be underestimated. Also no PAT (portable appliance testing) needed for these cordless units, which is a pain in the ass to get done yearly by sparkies as it costs money just to say the tool is still working fine!
Although expensive Flexvolt will be gobbled up by companies in construction worldwide.
Has there been a tool in the range that you will be getting for keeps that you use frequently enough and can warrant the dollar for?
Cheers!
Lol. Looks pretty thin for 1", right?! :P The power of these 54V units is really incredible, agreed.
oztooltalk get all our tools given to us by manufacturers, so lucky enough not to have to buy them. Having said that, reviewing is a lot of hours/work! Of the three we have reviewed (grinder, circ and SDS-Max), all are monsters and game-changers (IMHO).
Oz Tool Talk Good to hear manufacturers are sending you the bits for reviewing you guys are the best on the tube for testing real world use. Hitachi late to the game sending you stuff!
IMHO the Flexvolt circ saw is the hugest tool that will sell by the boatload, thats the one that will be used the most...
Do you guys have any mains tool comparisons in the pipeline that you would like to put out there?
I'd love to see a random ordbital sander comparison as i'm in the market for one and have no loyalty to Makita as it will be mains and not 18v (I know Festool's are the best but i'm not a millonaire and not getting into their vacuum to every tool platform)
Cheers.
the dewalt grinder is great but still above 700 euros in europe as a kit, it is to much,,,i have to wait. yeah i hope not to much sparks hit the window glas and frame,,,happy new year guys!
[Dwain] ouch. cheers!
De Walter how does euros convert? $299 usd here?
Mike Zeke depends ....1 euro is 1.10-1.20 $ i have no idea why Dewalt sells it everywhere that espensive but not in the usa
De Walter Mitty...
De Walter yeah i bought the bare tool for 150$ dollars lol
👍👍👍🙂🤝
Baik boss
ahhh the window
[Dwain] I didn't think that one through....
A question, Those batteries actually run the tool at 18 volts but because they can individually charge and monitor each cell they are called 57 volt? Also what is the Ah or Wh rating on those?
dazaspc there are 3 2ah 18v cells in the flexvolt battery and when you put the battery in a new 54v tool the 3 cells are told to run in series to achieve the 54v but only at 2ah.......then if you put the flexvolt battery in any 18v tool in runs those 3 cells in parallel to achieve 6ah while still only putting out 18v....
Hunter is on the right track. In regular batteries 5 cells (3.6V each) are put in series to achieve an 18V battery. Typically those cells might be 2Ah or 2.5Ah etc. If you have two rows of those in parallel with each other, you remain at 18V, but you add the Ah (e.g.4Ah or 5Ah). The are often known as high capacity batteries.
In this flexvolt battery, there a 3 rows of 2Ah cells, with can switch between parallel (6Ah at 18V) or ALL in series (15x3.6V = 54V), 2Ah at 54V.
Oz Tool Talk Couldn't have said it better myself, LOL
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нельзя резать рядом со стеклом !!!!!!!
windows....melted iron filings in window
you aren't the first or last person to point that out! I've learnt better since.
only mention it because I have done it...and it turned into a real pain to fix
Dog dont happy, she dont like dewalt toools?
Szyby już wymieniłeś? 🤣
sparks can and do get in dogs eyes......
:/
Glass and metal cutting NEVER go together!
learnt that the hard way!
Get your dog out of your working zone!!!