Wait Until You See This FANCY BEAST... | 1983 Gibson "Crest" NAMM Show Display Piece | "The Hippo"
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Edit: JAN-22-24 Lynn Wheelwright reached out and let me know that the NAMM status of this guitar was a crossed story. He had purchased this off eBay in the early 2000s from a prestigious collector who had many fancy guitars. The exact history of this one is now a mystery, but the info in this video still holds up otherwise.
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0:00 - Intro - Check Links in the Description
0:30 - Gibson Crest History
3:33 - Unboxing
6:01 - First Impressions
9:56 - Inside Look / Specs
23:37 - Tone Demo
28:47 - Final Thoughts
📚 Description: This is a Gibson "Custom Shop Edition" Crest that is believed to have been a NAMM Show display piece from the early 80s. When I purchased it from its 2nd owner, I was told it was originally purchased by Lynn Wheelright and he had it for quite some time. The 2nd owner decided to part ways with it due to it not fitting into his collection.
This is based on the late 60s/early 70s Gibson Crest Gold and Crest Silver models which were very fancy ES-330 like guitars that utilized Brazilian Rosewood instead of Maple. Seeing as Gibson stopped using Brazilian Rosewood in the late 60s, these are some of the very few guitars that got Brazilian Rosewood on them in the 70s. Outside of a few select pre-historics, the Brazilian Rosewood Top Les Paul Custom is the only other that I'm aware of.
I believe this to be a guitar that started life in the early-to-mid 70s that never got completed and was then later put together in the early 80s before Kalamazoo shut its plant down in 1984. The 1983 Tim Shaw bridge pickup is the only thing that dates to '83 on it - but the presence of a "Custom Shop Edition" decal makes me believe this was finished in 1983. All other electronics date to mid/late 1980.
I nicknamed this one "The Hippo" due to the hippo-like pattern wood grain pattern on the back.
This is one fancy guitar!
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Austin, try to find an 1984/1985 Steinberger GL2 Standard. Mark Knopfler used it on the Brothers in Arms album. Eddie Van Halen used one too. Its freaky, so it's your style of guitar
Can I please have it?
That is one beautiful guitar Mr Trogly !
If I had a whole bunch of $$, might be asking you to sell it to me. I actually love that guitar's tones and appearance.
Missed the part about the nut, that material was that?
I forget where I saw this trick, but I swapped out the original pots and pickups on my Oscar Schmidt 335 clone. I used aquarium airline tubing to fish the pots back in place. You just push the tubing over the pot knob and pull it back in place, then slide the washer and nut down into place from the other end of the tubing. Worked like a charm!
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Same here
I love this channel Ray lol
So cute!!
your channel is very cool too!!
Hey ray
I bet the bigsby was to control the neck dive in a tasteful way for the original owner.
Good point
No bigsby there my friend. Its a trapeze tail piece
Lmao i see it now lol
Those things are heavy and cry Rube Goldberg.
Use vinyl tubing for fish aquariums to 'fish' those parts back into place.
String also works too, as long as it’s not weak or thin. I’ve pulled my harness out of my 335 several times.
@@danduntz9112 Yeah, would that be 'fishing' string... ;}
@@10100rsn In a sense...haha
Dood, you really need to read your comments. I tried to explain previously that if you need to drop the pots in hollow or semi hollow body guitar, get some rubber tubing and slip it over the shaft of each pot. Make sure the strands are long enough that they don't wind up inside the body when you pull the pots. When you are done, pull everything back in to place and there you have it! No fishing!
Lol,, been there before!!
Thank you man.
This is going to be a trick I store in my box.
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@@astrohartley1439Always happy to pass along knowledge.
yeah. I don't think he reads his comments. I've never gotten a response from him.
Great tip!
God, that is absolutely beautiful!!!
I bought a Siam Music 335 copy, made in Thailand. It's got that great B.B. King tone in the middle, biting rock tone in the bridge... Price? ฿5,700 (less than $200). Put 11-52's on it, with a wound G, adjusted truss & intonation. It plays like a dream!!
Shout out to the way trogly says "metal" and "eighties"
That's a rural Midwest American accent... 'How many pages will you be prinTing?'
I just love the way he says "first fret neck depth"
I noticed that too but never dared to mention it
“ButTON”
But then he says "Sat-in" instead of "Sat-Tin"
Tape the endoscope to a piece of coat hanger that you can bend and place the camera where you need it. You can also get skinnier ones that will fit into tight places better. Much easier than trying to remove and replace those electronics and risk cracking the wire or solder. MY guess is thats a parts guitar, like you had said, using electronics, neck, and wood they had laying around and threw it together just for NAMM to have something unique to display. Its gorgeous though.
This might be an unpopular comment but I really love how this guitar sounds. Must be due to the lack of center block, but the the shortened sustain on the middle and bridge positions give it that great classic rock strummy sound
Me too. I write it up to 3 things. Acoustic resonance (if a guitar is a bell ringer unplugged, it's a keeper), light weight (which is part of the resonance thing), & those Tim Shaws. Imo, it's a coin toss between those pickups and some top notch Seth Lover PAFs (and his later patent numbered humbuckers.) T-tops coming in close behind. Over the decades, Gibson has been really up on their pickup game (outside of the 490 series - never liked them.) But Lover, Shaw, & the T-tops (again, imo) are the best of the best.
But not to start a big to-do over PAFs vs Tim Shaws, the point is when you marry a lightweight, resonate guitar with top of the line pickups *and quality pots,* it's next to impossible not to have a really sweet sounding instrument.
And that bad boy was *SWEET.*
Dang, Trogly-that thing is gorgeous! The middle position is out of phase, which isn’t totally out of character for Gibson. I once had a 1961 Epiphone Broadway with the pickups out of phase-the guy I bought it from said that he bought it new and that nobody had been inside it. One of the pickups was installed backwards-I can’t remember which one now; I got rid of that guitar in 1974. Traded it for a ‘59 Telecaster.
LoL @ the Hippo, crazed woman abalone, and hidden phoenix! I too enjoy finding hidden images in woodgrain, since back I was like 4 years old? Deeply zoning out into wood paneling, connecting imaginary dots. I have a huge wizard with a bushy eyebrows, a mean beard and a long flowing mustache, guarding the back of the body of my treasured natural hard tail stratocaster, along with a elongated skull bird like alien fellow on the top, and then a odd shaped kind of fish of pops up, on the upper horn. I had even tried to reveal these hidden gems, during small talk chatter, to a few general admirers of my guitars looks, like 20 years back, but these hanger on type B’s, just squinted and quickly gave up, humoring me, just to get me stop prattling on all about hidden wizards, alien birds and fish, even now it all comes off insane?...LoL. Later on, I took some close up digital pictures, and then added in a few key defining highlighted lines with the paint program on a PC, to the photos which I keep in my case, as to more fully assist, in conveying the essence my guitars imagined woodgrain creatures, to the unhip couch groupie jam spot acquaintances, whom don’t always possess such visual imaginations. I don’t even know that many people have ever seen the pictures in their full glory, but one of these days, if I ever happen, back down that road, and get tangled up, in communicating my guitars hidden wood grain images, I can just go to my case and get the damn pictures!...LoL :D
"welcome back, Troglodytes, to your daily dose of ink blot tests"
Today's guitar is the Gibson Pareidolia....
At 5:35 the web info you show mentions Alvino Rey. Alvino Rey is the great grandfather of Win Butler & Will Butler of Arcade Fire. Gibson also hired Alvino to develop a prototype pickup and based on the version he developed for the amplified banjo Alvino did already and used on the Gibson ES-150. Also Alvino invited the talk box to modify the sound of his electric steel guitar to sound like words - of course this led to the modern talk box. Of course more if you read on lol.
My grandfather had a 68' Gibson Crest, as well as a 50's Harmony Broadway and an old Epiphone Emperor ( best archtop I've ever had the opportunity to play ) that he had inherited from his grandfather. Around 13 years ago after my grandmother had died, my papa moved in with us and around that time my mom was starting to get into her pain pill & heroin addiction caused by her boyfriend at the time. Well, around 2011ish that said boyfriend stole almost all of my papa's stuff including his Crest, Broadway, and his Emperor, went down to Kentucky and PAWNED yes pawned everything. I had moved out of the house shortly before this happened cause I couldn't deal with living with my heroin addicted mother and her boyfriend, but he blamed it on a break in. It absolutely gutted my papa. I mean he had those guitars basically his entire life. I was supposed to inherit them from him. Such a tragic thing to happen to him. He was such a great person too 😔
10:45 You could try using a dental mirror and the torch on your phone
Yep. U can actually get lighted dental mirrors but the ones designed for automotive wrk are great too.
Spectacular guitar. It's a milestone. You've been working ceaselessly on these videos - you deserve it, brother. Thanks for sharing the experience!
That is basically a super fancy pre-1970 ES330 model with Brazilian rosewood plywood top back and sides with Shaw humbuckers in lieu of P90s (ES330) or NY Minis (Epi Riviera). Gibson just dug out the tooling for the 16th or 14th (I forget) fret to body pre 1963 ES330s. It looks like you have a Gibson ES350 tail piece with a super fancy insert. Those were used on quite a few expensive jazz boxes. No center block means a trapeze tail piece or nothing. And after 80-90 years the top starts to cave in anyway. I have redone a few old 1910s L1s. The ES175s used that TP too, with no insert. The diamonds came and went. The Epi Rivieras with the mini-buckers SCREAM. Those are 335s with NY mini buckers. For true NY minibuckers see a New York pre Gibson Epiphone, or a very early Kalamazoo Epi. Epiphone's employees were not left without a job when Gibson shut them down after buying them out. They formed Guild Guitars with help from old Epi management. Tom DeLonge.
You should check out a Johnny Marr jag! It's nothing like a regular jag, different pickups, different switching etc. Really cool guitar
@Lovro Knezevic I always wondered why Johnny’s playing that GORGEOUS Gibson in Hi Hello instead of his Jag? I WANT that Gibson he’s playing in that video!!! Lol
@@mubodude I know there’s a video of Johnny going over all of his specs on his Jag.
The very reason I absolutely love your show. Getting to see some of the most beautiful guitars ever made up close and in detail. With the history too. Thanks so much!!!
Congratulations Trogdog, always feels like a victory when you find one you've been hunting for the collection. Love the video, hope you're doing great!
Not for me, but no denying it's a work of art!
Have to strongly disagree!! One of the TACKYEST things I've ever seen has the taste of a velvet Elvis painting! Just Dreadful!
Too brown. 😉
This is definitely one of your best purchases imo.... but you be mistaken cause that's a T-Rex in the wood and not a Hip-hop'opotamus... maybe a Bebop'opotamus haha. If it joins at the 19th fret instead of the 16th then it almost definitely has a center block. If it somehow has 335 length neck and doesn't have a center block, then not only is it rare, it's probably very fragile and not able to hold very much string tension. Most semi hollow and thin-line hollowbody Gibsons are poplar/maple laminate construction so I'd imagine that the Brazilian is a veneer. Brazilian Rosewood is extremely dense wood so that would be a heavy ass guitar if made entirely from solid brz/rw... even if it were entirely hollow. That just gave me a great idea for a custom 335 though... have one built with a Honduran rosewood center block (like marimba blocks) talk about sustain!
That Has to be one of the most beautiful guitars I have ever seen all the aspects the gold hardware the abalone the crazy figuring Just stunning
not trying to anger solid body gang but this is the coolest guitar I've seen you have. hands down. Sorry "the" les paul and spotlight specials, you're now in my second place.
For my taste, I prefer having the center block. Had to own four Epiphone f-hole models to work that out, including one ES-335 Pro, one Casino and - on the outside - two Sheraton II models.
I just imagine Joe Bonamassa sitting at home watching this tipping his fingers like
I don't need it I don't need it damn I'm buying it.😂😂😂😂
Norm has/had a few Crests, I’m sure Bonamassa would ask Norm first.
@@Johnny_Doe but hes one for rarities and this is very rare
i think this is going to be one of the guitars that he keeps to himself though based on the rarity
Bonamasa another big head.
The white specs on your guitar body is nothing to do with the finish. Being a retired furniture maker in the UK, those specks are mineral deposits that where sucked up when the tree was living. The most apparent marks appear in Honduran Mahogany, which sadly is no longer available.
If it was D Latifolia, I'd suspect mineral uptake. I think it's filler. I've worked with plenty of Brazilian Rose, but I've never seen any white mineral residue. As for Honduras mahogany, you still get it. I think you're referring to the Cuban stuff Mahogani mahogani) that is next to impossible to get.
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
Ok I normally don’t get excited about old Gibsons but I’m in love with this guitar.
This is beautiful guitar ! I know this one. Thank-you, so much. I'm Shin'ichiro Sato(male). From Japan.
I dont like how they swapped the mini humbuckers for regulars. I feel like they are an important part of the crest look.
Stunning! Easily my favorite guitar that you've ever done.
I had a friend who owned one back in the late 70' and got to play it some.
Beautiful guitar but, you're right that this one fixes all the things that I didn't like about that one.
If I ever win the lottery, you'll be hearing from me. LOL!
Enjoy!!!!!!
I’m truly glad you get to have this guitar and so many others, so we can actually get a little history and to see what they are all about!
U know, I love guitars too, but the excitment of Trogly about every corner of this guitars, is above me.
3:43 My man never skips leg day! 😂😂
Trogly, thanks for doing videos on semi hollow Gibson’s as of late. Appreciate the detailed overview of this Gibson Crest. Hoping 2021 will bring about more ES models particularly 330, 335, 345 & 355. But a Trini Lopez, 175, 325, 295, Johnny A, Byrdland, Super 400 etc are welcomed as well.
You didn't highlight the multi-bound f-holes; even single binding of the f-holes is very rare on Gibson made semi acoustic... and it sure looks nice on yours :D Nice score
Oh my, that wood grain
You should do a Kiefer Sutherland sig edition..(Gibson. of course) ES 336
Isn’t that the dude from 24.
The same.
Back when you 1st started you and I were buying the same guitars..... You are actually becoming a Premier Gibson collector... It was fun watching your transformation into a Mini Joe bonamassa..... Thank you trogly I enjoy learning with you
I think the Steve Howe LP was way better looking. But this is a cool guitar nonetheless.
Plus Steve is Steve !!! My favorite band.
That lp looked like grandpa's furniture tbh
@@funkybunkii6190 grandpa always had good taste.
@@allthingsclassicrock could be, but it looked like it could stand next to a deer head while I smoke a cigar or something, not my taste, but fancy none the less
Fun fact: In Brazil, Brazilian Rosewood is called just Rosewood.
Fun factIn the U.S. Shiner beer, made in Shiner Texas, is called imported. Go figure.
Use old guitar strings or thread attached to the electronics, then pull them back thru...
What a beautiful guitar! Liked the pick ups individually but not as much so middle position. Very cool!
Beautiful piece. I tend to appreciate natural wood finishes with book matching. Love this one. It was worth whatever you paid for it. Thanks for documenting it.
Sublime. Can't take my eyes off this stunning instrument. Museum piece one can touch and play.....
I would probably never buy a semi-hollow, since I have never played the styles of music they are usually associated with, but holy hell - this thing is absolutely gorgeous.
@Jew Tube Well, yes and no. At really high gain settings a semi hollow would cause a lot of feedback, not exactly suited for heavier stuff.
That is one beautiful guitar. Sounded pretty damn sweet to my ears too. Great for rhythm players like me.
5* video on a 5* instrument. Beautiful.
Love your show, best out there, and always will be.
Bummer the audio quality/bitrate drops at 3:33, it happens from the video editing software overprocessing of the video as a final, then add voiceovers, and process to final again, the high frequency of "S's" are the tell tale.
. I'm sure you know, but just with that slight chance you might not know, it's an FYI.
It's not easy planning layers.
You do 5* awesome
Oh man, that is gorgeous!! I have those same knobs on my '82 The 'V'
I believe that David Crosby's Alembic 12 string electric started out as a Crest. It was also the first guitar with LED fret markers and probably one of the first guitars with active electronics. AFAIK he still plays it.
Beautiful, I'd swap in a Floyd and some EMG actives and just play and enjoy
Fuck it, go all out & route it for a Khaler lol
It needs a neon pink relic finish too
What a beautiful guitar. Congratulations! Sounds so good acoustically too
The second inlay looks like a skull! A tip, buy some flexible tubing that fits tightly on the pots that you can feed through the holes to pull the pots in place. A big time saver and makes it easier as well.😁
I think it's rosewood - another wood - rosewood because you can see the rosewood inside of the back
That is the most beautiful guitar I’ve ever seen. Say what you want about 70’s and 80’s Gibson that is a proper work of art
That neck pick up tho, such a sweet crisp sound.
Beautiful guitar! Pleasantly surprised at the bite those pickups have.
Everybody is hopping on the trogly train, the channel is blowing up, I love it it's about time, nobody knows guitars like trogly, thanks for spreading the knowledge!!!!
Ummm... I guess you haven't checked out any other guitar channels.
I watch a lot of guitar channels, I'm not sure I understand your comment didn't say this was the best guitar show did I? I was just saying this channels is really good and doing really good, no need to get all upset here, watch whoever you want buddy , i do
Reading these comments, it’s no wonder Austin doesn’t reply often. A large percentage of people watch this channel not understanding what it’s about. I saw a comment about the strap he’s using not matching the guitar...🤦🏼♂️ Another about the bridge being in the wrong place...how the heck do you know where it goes? Good god. Everybody’s an expert. I promise ya, he’s not making these videos to please anyone. He’s documenting guitars in a historical sense and also to sell potentially. It’s amazing to see this stuff demonstrated and it’s internals.
@@guitarocd9984 I don’t think the hate is limited to Gibson but yeah, I hear ya lol
If it had a center block it would be the coolest gibson guitars I've ever seen. Either way it rules! Good job Trogly
It would be best to check out the 3 way switch or the wiring. What you referred to in the demo as the middle position still sounds like the bridge position. Loved seeing this guitar though.
OK, that is a beautiful guitar. I wouldn't want it personally, but that doesnt take anything away from just how astonishingly lovely it is.
Pretty, but not for me.... i feel like i’d break it or something
that's got to be one of the most beautiful guitars I've ever seen... wow
Hey troggly, not sure if you will see this but with an endoscope, what you want is a mirror set, this will have give you a 90 degree bend in it without the bulk, it may not be perfectly in focus but should be better then looking at it at an extreme angle.
Being as I'm a huge fan of the ES 335. it's no question that I really like this guitar. but this guitar would have to be a case queen. it's just too nice to a player's grade guitar. it's definitely a beautiful one of a kind guitar no doubt.
I am not a Jazz box kind of a guy (more classic rock) but I do love that Guitar!
That is a handsome guitar.
You could maybe mount the endoscope to a dental mirror to get a better angle view (tape it to the handle pointed at the mirror on the angle).
"The Hippo" is definitely a rare gem. Never seen or heard of one of these either. Great video as usual. Congrats on a very rare find to add to your collection. God bless and rock on 😎👍🎸
Do a Alvin Lee custom shop... any one would do...
@Jew Tube Dunno what ya mean. The Alvin Lee models are both Gibson’s....
Good thing you didn't work that out ten years after.
WOW...SHE'S A BEAUTY!!!! U didn't notice the Gibson headstock logo has no dot above the I ???!!!
Yes, that would like nice with "The Les Paul" wooden knobs.
That is drool worthy. So much beautiful rosewood.
That is one beautiful guitar! I'm not a bog Gibson guy, but this one makes me want one, lol!
The scalloped nut is for reducing the tension of the string. In the german Gitarre und Bass, they showed it as a tip.
That mystery hole in the headstock veneer could be an alignment pin. To help with clamping the rosewood to the neck.
Could be were someone made a horrid little mistake lol.
@@fongy200 *where
BOING! I am in absolute love! With Rachelle Welsh circa 1960's, but that guitar is freaking awesome!! You just don't have the same level of skilled craftsmanship anymore, that is hands down the most beautiful guitar I've ever lusted after!
Jack ~'()'~
Canada Manly!
That's beautiful. If I could have jst one guitar i wouldn't feel bad if it was this one. I bet it's more versatile than people think
Trogly, you should have tied some dental floss or string to the pots before you pulled them. Makes it much easier to get them back in. Learned that a long time ago on a gretsch forum.
I wish someone had the low down on tony mottola's custom crest. Supposedly it wasn't hollow (according to Christie's auction list 2015). But it did resemble the brazilian rosewood and es335 shape of the hollowbodied Crest. And it had slanted LOz pickups which are a mystery. No doubt, the Crest was Gibson's successful attempt to outdo D'Angelico and D'aquisto. In Tony Mottola's guitar they no doubt did. But Gibson never did a Mottola signiture model. The closest may be the Gold Crest.
Nice catch! Get one of the little dentist looking mirrors for the next time you need to check pot codes.
The secret to installing those pots quick and easy is to use surgical rubber tubing that fits snuggly over the pot-shaft. You feed the tube down thru the pot hole, pull that end of it thru the F-hole and put the pot on it... do that to all the holes and all the pots. Then pull the tubing out of the pot holes dragging the pots right to the proper positions.
Put the tube on the pots before removing them, fits through the hole. Then no fish needed.
Holy crap! I know Lynn! He runs Pro Musician Outlet in Clearfield. He’s kinda ornery but really knows his stuff. Once in a while he’ll drop a gem on you like “I was hanging out with Seymour Duncan...” interesting guy. Best place to get a guitar in Northern Utah.
Rorschach with Trogly :)
The scalloped nut is made just to look fancy and if I recall correctly comes from the classic guitars tradition
Great video you learn a lot from your videos keep up the good work my daughter who is ten also likes your videos so she is learning
I cringe seeing those pots and humbucker resting on the guitar finish 😱 Congrats on probably the best looking semi-hollow I think I’ve ever seen!
Did your brain make the Record Scratch Noise? Mine did it again, just by reading this.
Glad you posted i had gotten use to you posting early so when you did thought maybe something happened. The last time you didn't post on a more normal time your wife had gotten hurt. Glad it all good love your show man
That trust rod cover looks wicked. i see a ghost with flaming eyes. maybe its just me.
I have a Fender medium plectrum with the face of Jesus on it. It's one of those multicoloured swirly ones but i swear Jesus's face is on it.
Please, get a good LCR meter and give inductance and capacitance measurements along with DC resistance (which doesn't say much). Showing all three parameters will give a better clue of how the pickups might behave (besides the playing part of course). Great vids, Thanks!
Looks like they might’ve drilled the truss rod cover holes before installing the nut! Either that or they did a custom cove that no longer exists. No press pics from the NAMM show?
Cover*
$$$$ Hungry, hungry hippos.
@29:31 Just shift the bridge more towards the bass side to center the strings.
Wish it had the wood pickguard but i ABSOLUTLEY love it!
15:25 Kind of looks like the album cover to "Everywhere, At The End Of Time" Stage 6.
Fish tank plumbing can help to get pots back into their places on hollow/semi hollows!
Gibson high ends. They are like the other variants but real pretty and feature tonal differences indistinguishable to the laymen.