Fantastic video and some great shots. I love slow shutter speeds and camera movement! When I used to teach photography, one of our assignments was to run through shutter speeds to see what happened. One part of the assignment was to try panning shots at various slowish shutter speeds. I had numerous examples to show them of course to show how the technical aspect could be used for creative purposes.
great video! I done this when I had no damn light and One roll of film! at a Rodeo! could not use more film or change lenses due to dust! A few great images..
There are some great moments. I love the first train shot. And the B&W shopping centre images focus the attention perfectly on the subjects. I like how you seem to know exactly where to go for these types of shots. My newer camera has a pan function with IBIS. Sadly, my favourite camera does not. Thanks for another great photo walk!
What a wonderful way of experimenting with photography in those many overcast winter days. Thank you Matti! My favourites were also the ones with red train, the first yellow and green tram, the three women with two people passing by and the three people outside. Yes few people can be a problem but with too many it can be difficult to get a clean composition. ;)
Thank you for this video Matti. I’ve been doing intentional camera movement for the last several months. I too find it impossible to predict what my ICM images will look like. I have found I like the 1 4” shutter speed the most. I also found a neutral density filter is necessary when I take images out of doors or I create high key images. A suggestion. The images of the subjects in the subway where they were in focus but you had motion blur with the train. Move your camera to create the blur. Right. Left. Up. Down. Zoom in or out with the lens. Create the blur by walking. I do this all the times and like the technique. Along with not knowing what the image will look like before I trip the shutter, I create many images I don’t like. Not enough blur. Too much blur. Hard to know what the image will look like so I take many images. I also play with the motion. Turning the camera right to left will create a different image than turning the camera left to right. I find I like the color images more than B&W. I used the two card slots in the camera. One was B&W jpeg. Slot two raw images. Your results may vary. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
I really liked this video. I just picked up a ricoh grIIIx after watching a good chunk of your videos and the next time I'm downtown, I'll definitely give this a shot. I agree that sharp photos are definitely much easier in terms of pointing and shooting. Another great video Matti!
Interesting and helpful! Thanks for your concluding/summary comments, especially. The train photo was a delightful surprise. I was first inspired to try motion-blur photos decades ago after seeing some images by Ernst Haas, but I was never very successful. You’ve inspired me to try again.
Thanks Matti. It gives me good inspiration. I do like the ones where you walk and photograph it is an effect I have been trying to work out how to achieve. Very helpful thanks.
Hi Matti, your experiment was a success, i liked the Red Train and the Tram. The shiny side walk had a nice blur as was your other pictures. Thanks Matti nice variety of pictures. 😊.
Great pictures! I love to take pictures in Shopping Malls and Railwaystations, with short and long shutterspeed. Sometimes I shake my camera up to take a picture in the forest. Thank you for the inspiration!
i love these walks - no bullshit music, no bullshit talk. Just staight to the point and just shooting without overthinking. Tip: cover up your camera with tape to be completely dark. You will stay more covered that way. People expect today that someone will have a Smartphone and do Pictures, Cameras give you more time because the masses are not used to it anymore. Sometimes its all about this one second that made the Picture. i like 7:20 - but in vertical crop. i mostly shoot vertical so its my taste
Excellent video Matti👏I liked all the photos you did. I haven't tried intentional motion blur, but I will now next time I'm in a city. I will use my Sony A7C2 & 40mm f2.5 lens.
@@mattisulanto Matti, I watched your video twice and certain parts multiple times. But some information is not apparent. Here's some notes for your reference and others hoping to succeed with motion blur: 1. At the beginning of the video, there are photos with backgrounds that are in focus at shutter speeds around 1/4 second. This was handheld. To achieve this, you need IBIS on your camera and it needs to be turned on. Without IBIS, this shot is not possible without a tripod or monopod. So, the camera and IBIS are critical to this technique if you want the background in focus as show in the first examples, which I thought were the most successful shown. Your camera has 5.5 stops of stabilization which is the elephant in the room. But that's not apparent from your video. Try it with IBIS off and see if you can replicate the results. 2. In the middle of your video, you changed styles, choosing for the entire image to have motion blur, not just subjects. At the end of the video, you finally mentioned IBIS and turning it off. This only makes sense if you want to achieve a fully blurry image, as you did the later part of the video. And turning it off would make sense given that the camera is correcting for the intended movement of the camera. But not if you want the background in focus. 3. You mentioned how challenging it was a few times. However, you don't mention why. Was is difficult because of the camera/gear? Was it because you had an image in your mind that you couldn't produce? Was it because of the subject matter or lighting conditions? It wasn't apparent to me what you meant. 4. It was challenging for me to replicate the images you made, but for different reasons. I don't have IBIS and that's what my initial question was ultimately about. Peace.
@@OllieLoops This video is not supposed to be a tutorial and you are free to figure out some things on your own. You can see in the video that I'm shooting handheld and you can see my exposure settings. I wish you awesome photo moments and all the best.
I know you said the train photo was a cliché but it still made for a super cool photo. My favourites are the photos with a lot of background blur but at least one subject in focus. It creates a sense of drama. I also enjoyed the blurry photo of people walking in front of you but I think if ALL the photos were blurry like that I would lose interest. Anyway, loved the video and enjoyed hearing you describe your thought processes.
im finding it easier to do slow shutters on my R7 than my GH5ii, i have been using it for cars and transport in motion while in front of a stationary building or a subject in general. makes the shot more interesting and alive. it works well for stock photos for me at least!
You are right about YT being full of videos about how to get sharp images. Maybe YT needs more videos about how to getblurry photos! It is hardwr than getting sharp images. I am on it after I get rid of my cast!
I see that in each photo the three parameters change except the ISO. Are they done automatically?... Some later i saw ISO 800. It seems tat ISO is on AUTO. It is good this experience
I have taken some photos with slow shutter while zooming in or out with long lens. Center is usually in focus and edges are mess of intense blur directing eye to center.
Our eyes and brains can't perceive details and sharpness in moving subjects so I think photos such as these are a better representation of what we see and remember. What's the station at 1:05? There's a famous station in Stockholm carved from solid rock.
Nice shots. Regarding IBIS, I'd leave it on. For subject blur it will make no difference. For your intentional blur (movement of the camera) it will of course try to correct it, but if you are 'decided' about your movements then it will play along, at least that's what I find with my K1. An added advantage is that with panning blur shots (e.g.cyclists) it will usually recognise you are panning and only try to correct in the other plane of movement - this helps to get a sharper image of the subject that you are following. (And with longer exposures you can even use the IBIS to achieve effects where part of the exposure is sharp, and part blurry, almost like a double exposure).
Yes, this was interesting to see you slowly beginning to understand what works and what does not . and as you said, it was not quite the right time of day in the subway for what you were trying to achieve. Thanks for taking us through this experiment matti. zen billings.
Is it generally ok there to shoot indoors in places that are not exactly public but not exactly private either, if that makes any sense? To me, and this is personal of course, I am more attracted to photos where there are portions of the image that are not blurred, static background, static people in foreground, etc.
What is public space and what is not varies from country to another. In Finland the definition of public space is quite wide compared to many other countries. Anyway, as long as you behave respectfully it's ok to shoot in most places.
When unnatural, in my view, it might look artsy, or catch attention as something to look at the first few photos. In general, a train blurr is great, and a natural occurrence to the mind process. As one concentrates on the people in wait of a train, the rest is but a blurr in passing. Pleasing to the eye. One person standing in the middle of the station in focus, with the rest all a blurr, is very grabbing the first time one sees such an image. The magic eventually wears off if one does more than one or two. You are giving importance to simply one character thus the risk of something greater than art effect should occur. A train is a backdrop, while people having human importance usually, IMO, have the greater right to be in focus. The best photos of people frozen in a picture, while the rest of humanity races by like little ants in all directions, is a great photo. It shows the chaos of the scene, while the subject is calm. This has special meaning. If every shot is a blurr without a meaning, well ya know... Take care, Loren
Yes, if I wanted 100% sharp photos. If I want intentional motion blur I shoot handheld, of course. Besides, most modern cameras with IBIS can easily do handheld up to 0.5 second at least. Tripod is also not practical in street photography.
@@wanneske1969 Sure it depends on who is holding the camera. I don't mean to argue, but I think 1/13s sounds quite modest and makes me think, with respect, that you might do better with some practice. I mean, something like 1/15s is quite achievable for a healthy person without any stabilizer and with a 50mm or shorter lens. However, this is very personal and some people can easily hold steadily even several second exposures and some can only dream about that😀
I think motion blur can be fun but when it's overdone it kinda gives me a headhache, for example the photos from 7:58 and on are a bit too much for me.
excellent loved the train versions with great colour red.
Many thanks!
Those were my favourites also.
I appreciate how you’re willing to share even the shots that you’re not super happy with. These photo walks are the best!
Thanks! In real life it is like that and I don't want to give the impression that I only take awesome shots😀
Fantastic video and some great shots. I love slow shutter speeds and camera movement! When I used to teach photography, one of our assignments was to run through shutter speeds to see what happened. One part of the assignment was to try panning shots at various slowish shutter speeds. I had numerous examples to show them of course to show how the technical aspect could be used for creative purposes.
Thank you! That's a great assignment and you'll quickly make sense of the shutter speeds with that.
Great idea with the long shutter speed. I really like the pictures. Best regards, Albert
Thank you! Cheers!
Thanks for the inspiration Matti! Love the walking and slow motion combinations. I think the wet sidewalk helps those too.
Thanks for watching Marlene! Much appreciated.
Love slow shutter speed photo that capture sense of motion and movement. Nice video and photos !
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.
Lovely work Matti
Thank you!
Absolutely loving it, it triggers creativity
Awesome, thank you!
I think the pictures looks very good. It's a great Style i think.
Thanks!
Kool. I'll have to give that a try. The image @08:57 also has the word "Movement" on the sign in the background. Very nice.
Thank you.
Excellent work! The motion blur effect adds a dynamic and artistic touch. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
"Let's do this" always reminds me of Robin...😄
great video! I done this when I had no damn light and One roll of film! at a Rodeo! could not use more film or change lenses due to dust! A few great images..
Thanks! I have never even seen live Rodeo but I can imagine the struggle with slow film.
There are some great moments. I love the first train shot. And the B&W shopping centre images focus the attention perfectly on the subjects. I like how you seem to know exactly where to go for these types of shots.
My newer camera has a pan function with IBIS. Sadly, my favourite camera does not.
Thanks for another great photo walk!
Thanks so much. I make it look like I know😀
@ 😆
You’ve inspired me. I’m at Melbourne airport - loads of people.
What a wonderful way of experimenting with photography in those many overcast winter days. Thank you Matti! My favourites were also the ones with red train, the first yellow and green tram, the three women with two people passing by and the three people outside. Yes few people can be a problem but with too many it can be difficult to get a clean composition. ;)
Awesome, thank you! Later I thought maybe I just expected too much and should have figured out something else instead😀
@ No need, it was perfect! You’ve got many keepers from one photo walk! 👍
amazing content!!! opened my mind!
Thanks!
Thank you for this video Matti.
I’ve been doing intentional camera movement for the last several months. I too find it impossible to predict what my ICM images will look like. I have found I like the 1 4” shutter speed the most. I also found a neutral density filter is necessary when I take images out of doors or I create high key images.
A suggestion. The images of the subjects in the subway where they were in focus but you had motion blur with the train. Move your camera to create the blur. Right. Left. Up. Down. Zoom in or out with the lens. Create the blur by walking. I do this all the times and like the technique.
Along with not knowing what the image will look like before I trip the shutter, I create many images I don’t like. Not enough blur. Too much blur. Hard to know what the image will look like so I take many images. I also play with the motion. Turning the camera right to left will create a different image than turning the camera left to right. I find I like the color images more than B&W. I used the two card slots in the camera. One was B&W jpeg. Slot two raw images. Your results may vary.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Thanks! Did you by any chance watch the full video? I had photos which had camera movement and that was my initial purpose for the whole experiment.
I really liked this video. I just picked up a ricoh grIIIx after watching a good chunk of your videos and the next time I'm downtown, I'll definitely give this a shot. I agree that sharp photos are definitely much easier in terms of pointing and shooting. Another great video Matti!
Thanks! I hope the GR3x will give you many great photos.
Interesting and helpful! Thanks for your concluding/summary comments, especially. The train photo was a delightful surprise. I was first inspired to try motion-blur photos decades ago after seeing some images by Ernst Haas, but I was never very successful. You’ve inspired me to try again.
Thanks! Try it again and I'm sure you'll come up with something nice.
You got steady hands! The pictures look sharp.
Thanks. Watch the full video, not all are sharp. At least based on my definition of sharp😅
some great shots, its a style I really do like
Thank you!
Nice perspective on motion bluer.
Thanks.
Thanks Matti. It gives me good inspiration. I do like the ones where you walk and photograph it is an effect I have been trying to work out how to achieve. Very helpful thanks.
Thanks! It always makes me happy if I can inspire others.
Good work. I guess you’re a fine art photographer. I enjoy doing the same thing.
Thanks. I'm a part time fine art photographer😀
a revolving door would be interesting … 📸
It might be but we don't have many of those.
Hi Matti, your experiment was a success, i liked the Red Train and the Tram. The shiny side walk had a nice blur as was your other pictures. Thanks Matti nice variety of pictures. 😊.
Thank you very much!
Your very welcome Matti 😊
Seems like a good challenge to try.
Absolutely, give it a try.
Great pictures! I love to take pictures in Shopping Malls and Railwaystations, with short and long shutterspeed. Sometimes I shake my camera up to take a picture in the forest. Thank you for the inspiration!
Thanks for sharing.
i love these walks - no bullshit music, no bullshit talk. Just staight to the point and just shooting without overthinking. Tip: cover up your camera with tape to be completely dark. You will stay more covered that way. People expect today that someone will have a Smartphone and do Pictures, Cameras give you more time because the masses are not used to it anymore. Sometimes its all about this one second that made the Picture.
i like 7:20 - but in vertical crop. i mostly shoot vertical so its my taste
Thanks for sharing your tips and thoughts.
This video just inspired some cool ideas for my macro photography actually! Thank you!
Thanks so much and great to hear my video gave you new ideas.
カッコいい😳😳
very good video. I love this type of photo
Thank you!
Very nice!
Thanks!
1:35 when you realize you're on TV!
Excellent video Matti👏I liked all the photos you did. I haven't tried intentional motion blur, but I will now next time I'm in a city. I will use my Sony A7C2 & 40mm f2.5 lens.
Thanks! At least you have the correct tools for the experiment😀
Super!
Thank you very much!
With the shutter speeds used, how is the background in focus? I’m assuming you’re handholding the camera?
Please watch the video, it’s’ all there.
@@mattisulanto Matti, I watched your video twice and certain parts multiple times. But some information is not apparent.
Here's some notes for your reference and others hoping to succeed with motion blur:
1. At the beginning of the video, there are photos with backgrounds that are in focus at shutter speeds around 1/4 second. This was handheld. To achieve this, you need IBIS on your camera and it needs to be turned on. Without IBIS, this shot is not possible without a tripod or monopod. So, the camera and IBIS are critical to this technique if you want the background in focus as show in the first examples, which I thought were the most successful shown. Your camera has 5.5 stops of stabilization which is the elephant in the room. But that's not apparent from your video. Try it with IBIS off and see if you can replicate the results.
2. In the middle of your video, you changed styles, choosing for the entire image to have motion blur, not just subjects. At the end of the video, you finally mentioned IBIS and turning it off. This only makes sense if you want to achieve a fully blurry image, as you did the later part of the video. And turning it off would make sense given that the camera is correcting for the intended movement of the camera. But not if you want the background in focus.
3. You mentioned how challenging it was a few times. However, you don't mention why. Was is difficult because of the camera/gear? Was it because you had an image in your mind that you couldn't produce? Was it because of the subject matter or lighting conditions? It wasn't apparent to me what you meant.
4. It was challenging for me to replicate the images you made, but for different reasons. I don't have IBIS and that's what my initial question was ultimately about.
Peace.
@@OllieLoops This video is not supposed to be a tutorial and you are free to figure out some things on your own. You can see in the video that I'm shooting handheld and you can see my exposure settings. I wish you awesome photo moments and all the best.
I know you said the train photo was a cliché but it still made for a super cool photo. My favourites are the photos with a lot of background blur but at least one subject in focus. It creates a sense of drama. I also enjoyed the blurry photo of people walking in front of you but I think if ALL the photos were blurry like that I would lose interest. Anyway, loved the video and enjoyed hearing you describe your thought processes.
Thanks! I agree that the first metro train came out really nice. No reason not to shoot a cliché because it can surprise you in a good way😀
im finding it easier to do slow shutters on my R7 than my GH5ii, i have been using it for cars and transport in motion while in front of a stationary building or a subject in general. makes the shot more interesting and alive. it works well for stock photos for me at least!
Thanks! I'm sure a camera can make difference.
@@mattisulanto oh yeah, on the subject on IBIS, i leave it on because of the subject i want to be sharp while anything that moves is in motion.
You are right about YT being full of videos about how to get sharp images. Maybe YT needs more videos about how to getblurry photos! It is hardwr than getting sharp images. I am on it after I get rid of my cast!
Thanks for watching my friend. Let's got out together and shoot some blurry stuff once your leg is fine.
Blurry is easy for me -- take off my glasses ;) Peter, what happen with the leg? I did not hear of your misfortune. Heal soon! - loren
@@lorenschwiderski My Achilles Tendon snapped in the begining of January playing football.
@@mattisulantoYes we will.
@@ForsgardPeter That is some bad news. Let's hope the rest of this year goes along more smoothly. Mend well, Loren
Really interesting - Ernst Haas did it so well
Thanks!
Nice video!u
Thanks!
I see that in each photo the three parameters change except the ISO. Are they done automatically?... Some later i saw ISO 800. It seems tat ISO is on AUTO. It is good this experience
I'm using manual exposure and auto ISO. There are other ways to get the same results but that's what I prefer.
@@mattisulanto Thak you very much. I didn´t realize of your hand movements. That´s the reason because i was looking for an explanatio.
I have taken some photos with slow shutter while zooming in or out with long lens. Center is usually in focus and edges are mess of intense blur directing eye to center.
Thanks! That's another great technique for blur.
Do you turn off IBIS? Any stabilization you have on the lens?
Thank you
...p.s.: ...but then you said it after in the video :)
Yes, it's in the video if you watch it all😀
Our eyes and brains can't perceive details and sharpness in moving subjects so I think photos such as these are a better representation of what we see and remember.
What's the station at 1:05? There's a famous station in Stockholm carved from solid rock.
It's Ruoholahti station in Helsinki. We have some stations like that in Helsinki.
I like the ones with the moving metro and the shsrp people best.
Thanks! The metro train turned out nicely.
I like ICM.
Thanks!
@ I guess your photos here are not ICM but slow shutter speed. It shows action. Nice to switch it up sometimes.
@ I had to look up ICM😅 I guess not but what does it matter anyway? They are photographs😀
Nice shots. Regarding IBIS, I'd leave it on. For subject blur it will make no difference. For your intentional blur (movement of the camera) it will of course try to correct it, but if you are 'decided' about your movements then it will play along, at least that's what I find with my K1. An added advantage is that with panning blur shots (e.g.cyclists) it will usually recognise you are panning and only try to correct in the other plane of movement - this helps to get a sharper image of the subject that you are following. (And with longer exposures you can even use the IBIS to achieve effects where part of the exposure is sharp, and part blurry, almost like a double exposure).
Thanks for your thoughts on the IBIS. I can indeed be easier just to leave the stabilizer on all the time.
Let’s do this. It’s Robins talk….🤠.
I've spent too much time with him😅
@@mattisulanto Do you pay him royalties every time you say it? 1😃
@@caw25sha No, it's the opposite😀
Yes, this was interesting to see you slowly beginning to understand what works and what does not . and as you said, it was not quite the right time of day in the subway for what you were trying to achieve. Thanks for taking us through this experiment matti. zen billings.
@@zenonbillings9008 Thanks so much for watching.
Is it generally ok there to shoot indoors in places that are not exactly public but not exactly private either, if that makes any sense? To me, and this is personal of course, I am more attracted to photos where there are portions of the image that are not blurred, static background, static people in foreground, etc.
What is public space and what is not varies from country to another. In Finland the definition of public space is quite wide compared to many other countries. Anyway, as long as you behave respectfully it's ok to shoot in most places.
I am still in the Get Sharp Club. But I do want that blurry metro on my photobook. So not all hopes are gone.
Thanks! The positive side is that you still have at least one area of photography to explore😀
The pictures you showed us were awesome! But do you think you need to borrow my OM1 camera for even more fun? 🤠
Thanks! I think your OM-1 one must be a super fun camera but so are my cameras. So, I think it might be fun but not necessary😀
When unnatural, in my view, it might look artsy, or catch attention as something to look at the first few photos. In general, a train blurr is great, and a natural occurrence to the mind process. As one concentrates on the people in wait of a train, the rest is but a blurr in passing. Pleasing to the eye. One person standing in the middle of the station in focus, with the rest all a blurr, is very grabbing the first time one sees such an image. The magic eventually wears off if one does more than one or two. You are giving importance to simply one character thus the risk of something greater than art effect should occur. A train is a backdrop, while people having human importance usually, IMO, have the greater right to be in focus. The best photos of people frozen in a picture, while the rest of humanity races by like little ants in all directions, is a great photo. It shows the chaos of the scene, while the subject is calm. This has special meaning. If every shot is a blurr without a meaning, well ya know...
Take care, Loren
Thanks for sharing your view on this.
"Let's do this."
Hey, I'm not on Robin Wong's channel, right? :)
Thats a steady and for 1/10 and 1/6 sec.
The camera must have good IS?
The Sony IBIS is pretty average but I have practiced😀
4:22 it's kinda funny how even when trying not to do the cliché it ends up being too tempting, I guess some things become cliché for a reason.
Where is your Fujifilm ?
I don’t have any Fujifilm😀
Mä kerran tein icm-kuvia siten, että menin liukoportaisiin ja tuin kamerani siihen käsikaiteeseen, niin liike tuli tasaisena.
Konstit on monet sano mummo...😀 Ihan pätevää!
Wouldn't you use a tripod when photographing at 1/4th sec ?
Yes, if I wanted 100% sharp photos. If I want intentional motion blur I shoot handheld, of course. Besides, most modern cameras with IBIS can easily do handheld up to 0.5 second at least. Tripod is also not practical in street photography.
@@mattisulanto My Canon R6 has Ibis but I guess the limit is 1/13th of a second for me.
@@wanneske1969 Sure it depends on who is holding the camera. I don't mean to argue, but I think 1/13s sounds quite modest and makes me think, with respect, that you might do better with some practice. I mean, something like 1/15s is quite achievable for a healthy person without any stabilizer and with a 50mm or shorter lens. However, this is very personal and some people can easily hold steadily even several second exposures and some can only dream about that😀
I have tried this with rear curtain flash of people dancing tango or salsa. I love it but non photographers usually don’t care for it. Peasants, lol.
Thanks! Flash can add another dimension to this.
I think motion blur can be fun but when it's overdone it kinda gives me a headhache, for example the photos from 7:58 and on are a bit too much for me.
Sharpness is overrated but you know that. Getting nice blurry is much harder and you need a little luck.
Exactly! The element of surprise is always present and strong.