Interesting video. I like the motor vibration example. Note: There are already sensors that record data and that have alarms which are reported to maintenance technicians. I can tell you that having a machine learning algorithm tell you that a particular expected value is out of normal will not really provide any additional information unless it can also tell you more than the sensor information can provide. In that sense, if a certain set of equipment has similar profiles to other sets of equipment and the algorithm can compare its current data to a known set of issues with similar data readouts, then you might get something like a list of possible faults explaining the data. This would generally require multiple erroneous data points from several different types of sensors thru-out a system. Tho many systems already feed that information and collate it so it can be viewed by a technician. It would be helpful to have a system that can monitor a system 24/7 and provide something more than a list of alarms. But, overall, I get the impression that such a system would offer no more additional redundancy than the last person to look at it. Since that will be where the blame falls.
I could be wrong, but bearing failutes do not exibit large vibrstional noise till the end. As a result an FFT analysis that looked for frequency of bearing failures would be a necessary addition to the test. The FFT analysis works particularly well if there is a homing mark sensor present. The allows the raw data to be aligned in time. Virtually any ARM based micro controller could due this analysis. In addition there are microcontrollers with built in WIFI. LORAWAN interfaces could be used for remote facilities
Bearing failures can occur in many ways. Bearing fracture may not generate as much vibrational noise as, say, a bearing misalignment. Certainly, vibration can detect bearing issues prior to total failure. FFT is more likely to allow the technician to see wear and disintegration over time, which would be most valuable in predictive maintenance.
This kind of graf usualy comes in the spec sheet of the motors. For example a dumb protective relay can be set manualy to give a warning signal when the current [A] value is 10% bigger then the nominal current [A]. Not to be "that guy", but this is not "machine learning or AI". This kind of dumb relays were used since before the AI term was "the next big thing".
Thank you for your comment. This example shows how a simple analytical analysis can be made using two sensors. In most cases, we would use X - Y - Z axis sensors to identify a "volume" in which the data would normally reside. Outside of that 'volume" would indicate a problem. This is a very simple application of AI. In order to understand more complex AI problems, it is first necessary to understand this concept of data collections and how they are collected.
Ehh, you really need an FFT to do AI vibration based CBM or at least work with band filters to get relevant velocity and envelope/G gSE overalls to understand what the possible failure modes are. Defining"normal" operation conditions it's not trivial if you want to avoid false alarms and quickly lose the confidence from the maintenance and operations teams.
I’m a big fan of realpars and your videos have been very helpful, don’t get me wrong. However this explanation wouldn’t be very useful in practice. One of the issues is that class imbalance (number of failures vs not failures) would be very large, making the ai hard to learn. On the other hand if you have many failures it’s going to be a problem for production and using preventive maintenance would be more efficient. Therefore one should use a predictive model which predicts the vibration of both sensors while taking into account the previous recordings into consideration (in chronological order) as well as other info like plc controls and use domain knowledge to analyze these anomalies (given that you trust your model). This would be more cost efficient and in practice works much better than classifying the data points individually, which in my opinion is a useless oversimplification of the process, and wouldn’t work unless you’re trying to create an AI dataset rather than running a factory.
Thank you for your valuable suggestion. The analogy you offered is truly captivating. As mentioned earlier, our videos are tailored to a beginner audience, aiming to simplify complex processes. We appreciate you taking the time to share your insights. For further enriching your learning experience, we recommend exploring additional resources from one of our trusted partners at the following link: edgeimpulse.com/ Wishing you an enjoyable and insightful learning journey with RealPars!
Can you provide the exact link for the course together made with edge impulse for using machine learning with industrial automation.? I cannot seem to find it in realpars web site.
Hi there, Thanks for your comment! We have had a webinar on this with Edge Impulse, you can still watch that over here us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_FXGK6v6FT7Sb8QC9vpu7vA Other than that, we have this video and the related article over here realpars.com/machine-learning-predictive-maintenance/?Blog%20Post& Hope this helps! Happy learning
Please explain how you did it and which algorithm you applied as I'm not much familiar with deep learning is it possible to do it without deep learning using simple ml models please please help I have a major project on this topic
Hi there, Thanks for your comment, and great to hear your enthusiasm! In that case, our course library would be a great option for you. Our course library is filled with over 500+ courses, covering a variety of topics for automation engineers. Including a start-to-finish course on PLC Programming. Feel free to have a look around learn.realpars.com/collections Additionally, you will have access to our Technical Team - consisting of high-ranking engineers with a lifetime of experience - who are here to help you out with any questions you might have along the way! Hope this helps!
Thank you for your comment. This example shows how a simple analytical analysis can be made using two sensors. In most cases, we would use X - Y - Z axis sensors to identify a "volume" in which the data would normally reside. Outside of that 'volume" would indicate a problem. This is a very simple application of AI. In order to understand more complex AI problems, it is first necessary to understand this concept of data collections and how they are collected.
Thank you for your inquiry. Depending on your specific design, it is advisable to consider the use of two sensors, with one serving as a backup. Alternatively, in some cases, you may opt to monitor both the front and rear ball bearings, depending on your design requirements. Utilizing dual monitoring sensors can enhance the reliability of your collected data, providing more accurate and robust results. We wish you productive learning experiences with RealPars
Interesting video. I like the motor vibration example.
Note: There are already sensors that record data and that have alarms which are reported to maintenance technicians. I can tell you that having a machine learning algorithm tell you that a particular expected value is out of normal will not really provide any additional information unless it can also tell you more than the sensor information can provide. In that sense, if a certain set of equipment has similar profiles to other sets of equipment and the algorithm can compare its current data to a known set of issues with similar data readouts, then you might get something like a list of possible faults explaining the data. This would generally require multiple erroneous data points from several different types of sensors thru-out a system. Tho many systems already feed that information and collate it so it can be viewed by a technician. It would be helpful to have a system that can monitor a system 24/7 and provide something more than a list of alarms. But, overall, I get the impression that such a system would offer no more additional redundancy than the last person to look at it. Since that will be where the blame falls.
Thank you for sharing that, Marc! Truly appreciated
I could be wrong, but bearing failutes do not exibit large vibrstional noise till the end. As a result an FFT analysis that looked for frequency of bearing failures would be a necessary addition to the test. The FFT analysis works particularly well if there is a homing mark sensor present. The allows the raw data to be aligned in time.
Virtually any ARM based micro controller could due this analysis. In addition there are microcontrollers with built in WIFI. LORAWAN interfaces could be used for remote facilities
Bearing failures can occur in many ways. Bearing fracture may not generate as much vibrational noise as, say, a bearing misalignment. Certainly, vibration can detect bearing issues prior to total failure. FFT is more likely to allow the technician to see wear and disintegration over time, which would be most valuable in predictive maintenance.
This kind of graf usualy comes in the spec sheet of the motors. For example a dumb protective relay can be set manualy to give a warning signal when the current [A] value is 10% bigger then the nominal current [A]. Not to be "that guy", but this is not "machine learning or AI". This kind of dumb relays were used since before the AI term was "the next big thing".
Thank you for your comment. This example shows how a simple analytical analysis can be made using two sensors. In most cases, we would use X - Y - Z axis sensors to identify a "volume" in which the data would normally reside. Outside of that 'volume" would indicate a problem. This is a very simple application of AI. In order to understand more complex AI problems, it is first necessary to understand this concept of data collections and how they are collected.
Very helpful information about motor vibration sir 🙏
Thank you so much!
Next, please explain how this can be aplied with PLCnext and C++/Python
Thanks for your topic suggestion, Jumeldi! I will happily go ahead and pass this on to our course developers.
Ehh, you really need an FFT to do AI vibration based CBM or at least work with band filters to get relevant velocity and envelope/G
gSE overalls to understand what the possible failure modes are. Defining"normal" operation conditions it's not trivial if you want to avoid false alarms and quickly lose the confidence from the maintenance and operations teams.
Please do a video on loop checking
Thanks for your suggestion! I will happily pass this on to our course developers.
I’m a big fan of realpars and your videos have been very helpful, don’t get me wrong. However this explanation wouldn’t be very useful in practice. One of the issues is that class imbalance (number of failures vs not failures) would be very large, making the ai hard to learn. On the other hand if you have many failures it’s going to be a problem for production and using preventive maintenance would be more efficient. Therefore one should use a predictive model which predicts the vibration of both sensors while taking into account the previous recordings into consideration (in chronological order) as well as other info like plc controls and use domain knowledge to analyze these anomalies (given that you trust your model). This would be more cost efficient and in practice works much better than classifying the data points individually, which in my opinion is a useless oversimplification of the process, and wouldn’t work unless you’re trying to create an AI dataset rather than running a factory.
Thank you for your valuable suggestion. The analogy you offered is truly captivating. As mentioned earlier, our videos are tailored to a beginner audience, aiming to simplify complex processes. We appreciate you taking the time to share your insights. For further enriching your learning experience, we recommend exploring additional resources from one of our trusted partners at the following link:
edgeimpulse.com/
Wishing you an enjoyable and insightful learning journey with RealPars!
Thank you
You're welcome!
Thanks you team rearparls
You're very welcome! Happy learning
Awesome! Congrats
Thank you!
Can you provide the exact link for the course together made with edge impulse for using machine learning with industrial automation.? I cannot seem to find it in realpars web site.
Hi there,
Thanks for your comment!
We have had a webinar on this with Edge Impulse, you can still watch that over here us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_FXGK6v6FT7Sb8QC9vpu7vA
Other than that, we have this video and the related article over here realpars.com/machine-learning-predictive-maintenance/?Blog%20Post&
Hope this helps! Happy learning
Awesome video Sir 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you, Amino!
The motors can RUN for decades so keeping the sensors working and gathering the data becomes and enormous task
Yah as control tech, I swap sensors alot but vacuum and motors rarely, when they go bad the circuit breaks indicate that
“I’ve just picked up a fault in the AE35 unit. It’s going to go 100% failure in 72 hours.”
Please explain how you did it and which algorithm you applied as I'm not much familiar with deep learning is it possible to do it without deep learning using simple ml models please please help I have a major project on this topic
Thanks
Thank you so much, Bitebo!
Great vid, thanks for sharing. 🐵
Our pleasure!
I want to learn PLC and DCS system siemens PCS 7 software anybody know pls teach me
Hi there,
Thanks for your comment, and great to hear your enthusiasm!
In that case, our course library would be a great option for you. Our course library is filled with over 500+ courses, covering a variety of topics for automation engineers. Including a start-to-finish course on PLC Programming.
Feel free to have a look around learn.realpars.com/collections
Additionally, you will have access to our Technical Team - consisting of high-ranking engineers with a lifetime of experience - who are here to help you out with any questions you might have along the way!
Hope this helps!
How is this machine learning, as in what they call AI machine learning? Looks more like principal component analysis to me.
Thank you for your comment. This example shows how a simple analytical analysis can be made using two sensors. In most cases, we would use X - Y - Z axis sensors to identify a "volume" in which the data would normally reside. Outside of that 'volume" would indicate a problem. This is a very simple application of AI. In order to understand more complex AI problems, it is first necessary to understand this concept of data collections and how they are collected.
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This example was so simple that I thought I can do the same using ordinary calculus. By the way, why did we need two sensor? Why not Just one?
Thank you for your inquiry. Depending on your specific design, it is advisable to consider the use of two sensors, with one serving as a backup. Alternatively, in some cases, you may opt to monitor both the front and rear ball bearings, depending on your design requirements. Utilizing dual monitoring sensors can enhance the reliability of your collected data, providing more accurate and robust results. We wish you productive learning experiences with RealPars