My Great Grandfather was sent back from the Middle East to start the Royal New Zealand 🇳🇿 Armoured Corps in Waiouru after his command of 19th Battalion (Wellington) in Crete
Always love hearing about the New Zealanders, Australians, and Canadians, as well as other Commonwealth forces usually lumped together under the heading "The British" when the World Wars are discussed.
@@huntclanhunt9697 Yes in ww1, ww2 however the countries were independent and didnt rely on britian while they were part of the commonwealth saying they were british makes it sound like the british run the other countries militaries which they didnt l.
Alldaboss New Zealand only became independent after WW2. Hell, officially our anthem is technically still God Save The Queen, but our second anthem (added in 1977) God Defend New Zealand is used most.
I have heared that one country in South America is using a camo pattern with shape of it's own borders,but I don't remember which one. It would be nice to see a video about it.
We had Jungle greens for Vietnam issue - not pretty, not comfortable but durable. Horrible little cargo pocket on the side of the right hand leg and brass waist buckles on the waist straps for adjustment in lieu of a belt. Ozzie pattern trousers were more sought after with their double front cargo pockets on both legs. I've still got my original issue 1970 Jungle Greens and use it for hunting kit - still works just fine. My grandson will probably use it too!!
I have a feeling getting all of this research material is extremely hard. You can't just Google this information in this kind of detail. And to get all of these video clips, most of them seem accurate and correlate to what he's talking about. It's all very impressive.
My Grandfather served in the 3rd NZ Division. He never talked much about the war but once I asked him : " What were the Japanese like Grandpa?"... he said : "They didn't like cold English steel" There is very little history available about this division. Thank you for the video and enabling our family to learn more about what our loved one experienced.
My grandfather was also in the third. He once called the general by his first name when they were heading into battle and had their ranks hidden. He also was a champion boxer vs both kiwis and American servicemen.
Why not a Realtree civilian camo pattern compared to military camo, see which is more effective. Or even a history of civilian camo would be pretty interesting too.
It would be described better if it was called camouflage pattern Number 8 or simple No. 8 pattern in reference to the phrase we have here about having "a number 8 wire mentality" which means the ability to creates something out whatever scrap materials are available on hand. Also on a side note, NZ its pronounced N Zed not N Zee.
Calling the letter Z zed is a British/Commonwealth thing, in the US we pronounce it as zee. It's sort of like potayto vs potahto, both are correct, it's just a matter of where you grew up.
Can you cover the Greek "Lizard" camo pattern and it's history?? Also I would like a video about Greek Marine 1970's-80's Seaweed Camo an extremely rare pattern!!
Another very interesting and good video. I never heard of the pattern. It's like hearing about some first steps of a great technological revolution. Also, am I the only one who has to think of Atacs FG when seeing it?
In theory, its a good idea.People today created own camo and I saw some good examples. But large scale customising is something that could be problematic. They didnt have time to do it correct
Is that an M5 Stuart at 9:19 coming off the landing craft? The lighting makes the front turret look wide and rectangular but it may just be the effect of those wedge shaped boxes (spaced Armour?) on the sides of the turret. After bit of googling, the wedge 'box' on the M5 is a shield for the AA MG when stowed and only on one side. And I don't think that's a M5 after several re-watchings I'm sure its a Valentine.
Could we get a video on the history of the camo pattersn worn by the Australian Defense Forces........... well you can skip the stupid looking blue version of multicam our air force wears now, i got no idea why they chose it for anything other than looking different to the Australian armys version of multicam.
@@zerotwofive4997 I understand that, it just seems like a wast of money having 1 uniform just for the purpose of being recognised as being from the air force and then havng to be issued with a proper camo pattern uniform when they ever get deployed anywhere, at least the US air force ABU pattern looks actually functional as camouflage.
@Jay Leno there isn't a vowel to be found in New Zealand, and having travelled so wide and far and totally agree.... why I once spent 20 years in a Tibetan Buddhist monastery trying to teach them the correct pronunciation of Mr Fahrenheit, we settled on Bob.
My Great Grandfather was sent back from the Middle East to start the Royal New Zealand 🇳🇿 Armoured Corps in Waiouru after his command of 19th Battalion (Wellington) in Crete
Which nation? The French, British, Germans, US, and Soviets all had different uniforms for all of the different branches of their military at that time, just as they do now.
If they had so much trouble getting combat uniform/equipment/men why not just have the new Zealand units fill non combat roles. Don't really need camo as badly if you're running supply convoys behind the lines
OmarRP Most NZ units fought in North Africa, Mediterranean and Italy. They wore standard commonwealth pattern gear there (with some modifications). The Pacific war was mainly fought by US and Australian units. So the need for camouflage was lower as the majority of troops didn’t need it in the theatre they were in.
Paint is never a good idea in camouflaging uniforms as when it dries it hardens and stiffens which irritates the skin also in the jungle will fade quickly in the harsh environment
I have one of the khaki shirts - with the sleeves torn short. My father and his friends all had loads for use as work shirts or hunting. We used to have an old .303 lying about and webbing, ammo and ammo belts. Got handed into the police in the late 80's, when people began to think leaving guns and ammo lying around for kids to play with was probably not a good idea. Found the bolt the other day, though. We also used to play with an old anti-aircraft gun that had been placed in a school play ground. So ... different times. My father did not get sent overseas, but a lot of the people we knew had been. Story was all the stuff had come back from the North Africa - that the shirt was at El Alamein. Some of dads friends had been there, but none of them met Spike Milligan. Spike tells a story about meeting a member of the Afrika Corps at a dinner after the war, and working out they must have been opposite one another in the lines. When he got home, he noticed the German had written on his menu 'Dear Spike, sorry I missed you in '42'
Kiwis adapt on the fly, basic pattern for jungle fighting against a ruthless enemy.. nice presentation.! Considering the environment, very rare scraps around, but for the pictures.
3 (NZ) Div’s efforts in the Pacific campaign are all but forgotten even here in New Zealand. The title ‘3 Division’ had been in use since 14 May 1942 after the appearance of Mead's operational order No. 3 in Fiji, and that date, for record purposes and convenience, was taken as the day on which the force achieved the status of a division, but throughout the whole course of its existence the force was never officially gazetted ‘3 Division’ but remained legally ‘Pacific Section, 2 NZEF’, the designation it was given on 25 February 1942 when the original title ‘8 Brigade Group’ was amended. The letters ‘IP’, indicating the theatre in which the division operated, were added on 10 November when Barrowclough's appointment from ’Commander 3 NZ Division’ was altered to ‘General Officer Commanding 2 NZEF in Pacific’. The offical history of 3 (NZ) Div can be read here: nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2Paci-_N74353.html
Just a quick note England is part of the Great Britain. It is not the same as British or Britain. It's a bit like saying "Maine" when you mean the entire USA. Apart from that, an interesting video. Thanks.
Correction Japan forced into WW2 by America then the Japanese were taken by surprise at Pearl Harbour after the US removal of its carrier's to protect them.
Because it ( blue) had been the official uniform color since the 1770s Continental Army. Grey was a substitute standard for Militia uniforms and was the standard color for Cadet uniforms. There had been a window of opportunity in 1774-1775 for walnut brown and un bleached linen to be adopted. That opportunity closed when large shipments of French blue wool came in and the officers , politicians , Congress and wealthy society ( often all the same people) thought that looked better.
Please make video about OpsCore FAST helmets with Rifle rated ballistic helmet plates in the future? Also need Crye Precision's helmets with helmet accessories.
UH: First Model New Zealand Camouflage
Me: Hm, yes, Bob Semple Camouflage
All Hail Bob Semple
Dead meme
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography Silence child
Some hua had to bring it up didn't they
My Great Grandfather was sent back from the Middle East to start the Royal New Zealand 🇳🇿 Armoured Corps in Waiouru after his command of 19th Battalion (Wellington) in Crete
My Grandma made those uniforms and my Granddad worn it. God this was a great video, thank you so much!
I love New Zealand 😻😻😻
The ike jackets history, please...
Always love hearing about the New Zealanders, Australians, and Canadians, as well as other Commonwealth forces usually lumped together under the heading "The British" when the World Wars are discussed.
I mean... They were though...
@@huntclanhunt9697 Yes in ww1, ww2 however the countries were independent and didnt rely on britian while they were part of the commonwealth saying they were british makes it sound like the british run the other countries militaries which they didnt l.
I'd rather be have our victories categorised as 'British' than the yanks taking credit for our work,
Alldaboss New Zealand only became independent after WW2. Hell, officially our anthem is technically still God Save The Queen, but our second anthem (added in 1977) God Defend New Zealand is used most.
@@ethanlotter6270 26 September 1907
“We can’t wear this bright khaki in the dark forests, and we don’t have enough green dye!” -NZ. “Lol, spray paint go pssssshhhhh” -also NZ
z c other countries “let’s spend millions of dollars developing a camouflage pattern” NZ “lol, spray pant go pssssshhhhh”
We used jungle greens in Malaya and they worked fine.
@@terryharris1291 Yes I have a photo of my father who served in 2 NZIR in Malaya, didn't look like they had breathable fabrics for the jungle!
I mean......it works. I rattle can the fuck out of my rifles. It's cheap and effective. Also it looks cool and that's what really matters.
A-TACS vibes
Dick Major I had the same thing in mind once the pattern faded down washed out.
NZ's camo was like an improvised one. Not pretty, but nicely thought
I mean, it didn’t really need to be ‘pretty’
May God Bless and Keep,
New Zealand.
A Thanks
From U.S.MARINE CORPS VETERAN
Cpl Seaberg
Son of
SSgt Seaberg U.S.M.C.
1st MARINE Division WWII
I have heared that one country in South America is using a camo pattern with shape of it's own borders,but I don't remember which one. It would be nice to see a video about it.
there's a Croatian camo that does that
We had Jungle greens for Vietnam issue - not pretty, not comfortable but durable. Horrible little cargo pocket on the side of the right hand leg and brass waist buckles on the waist straps for adjustment in lieu of a belt. Ozzie pattern trousers were more sought after with their double front cargo pockets on both legs. I've still got my original issue 1970 Jungle Greens and use it for hunting kit - still works just fine. My grandson will probably use it too!!
Nz gets a camouflage video
Australian dpcu: Am I a joke to you?
I have a feeling getting all of this research material is extremely hard. You can't just Google this information in this kind of detail. And to get all of these video clips, most of them seem accurate and correlate to what he's talking about. It's all very impressive.
He deserves way more subs
My grandfather was in the 3rd NZ division aged 21. He died about 3 years ago aged 94. Interesting watch. Thanks.
Could you do a video on the history of finnish camoflage, its pretty intresting
I woulda painted *"happy little trees"* Bob Ross style.
Typical kiwi number 8 wire mentality.
You sir are definitely one of UA-cam’s most underrated channels and deserve way more subs.
My Grandfather served in the 3rd NZ Division. He never talked much about the war but once I asked him : " What were the Japanese like Grandpa?"... he said : "They didn't like cold English steel"
There is very little history available about this division. Thank you for the video and enabling our family to learn more about what our loved one experienced.
The NZ Military tend to not talk too much about themselves.
The quiet professionals.
My grandfather was also in the third. He once called the general by his first name when they were heading into battle and had their ranks hidden. He also was a champion boxer vs both kiwis and American servicemen.
@@looseunit1615 Yup.
Sweet vid. Could we get a video on the ANZAC unique uniforms of both world wars or a video on the Adrian helmet?
Please don't refer to to the whole UK as "England". It's like calling the USA "Texas"
As a Texan, I don't really see the problem.
@@immikeurnot that's because you appear to be missing the point
@@groundmasterc - Woosh, over yer head.
@@immikeurnot 😂😂😂
immikeurnot - all those Los Angeles Instagram influencers are Texan.
Why not a Realtree civilian camo pattern compared to military camo, see which is more effective. Or even a history of civilian camo would be pretty interesting too.
Realtree tends to be very focused on one kind of terrain in one climate... on one continent.
SEALs and CAG deployed to the Middle East used various pieces of realtree and mossy oak camo in the mid 2000s.
It would be described better if it was called camouflage pattern Number 8 or simple No. 8 pattern in reference to the phrase we have here about having "a number 8 wire mentality" which means the ability to creates something out whatever scrap materials are available on hand. Also on a side note, NZ its pronounced N Zed not N Zee.
"In Zid" according to the locals :p
Lol Not in American! Zed is so French! ( jk Love and Respect y’all!)
Calling the letter Z zed is a British/Commonwealth thing, in the US we pronounce it as zee. It's sort of like potayto vs potahto, both are correct, it's just a matter of where you grew up.
New Zedaland
Would love to see a video on the USNC's frog skin.
USMC you mean. This should hold you until Uniform History does one ua-cam.com/video/dW9TNTgVTig/v-deo.html
I read UNSC at first lol.
Ah, yes, the United States Navy Commandos...
Jk, all seriousness I would Love to see a video on frogskin as well.
Wow wow wow guys. hold the fuck up.
what are we talking about here?
both USNC and UNSC delivers me Halo results...is that what this is all about?
@@kabardino1337 USNC is not halo related, not sure why halo is coming up in the search result. Maybe because it is really similar to UNSC?
Looks like the NZ Govnt found the stockpile of aerosols from 1940 and thought let's have another go, this time we better spray the whole shirt
G'day Uniform History!
A great presentation on something I didn't know anything about and found interesting to watch - Thank you....
Kiwi here, love this channel and I never thought we had any type of camo in ww2
Ah interesting topic, I didn't know anything about this pattern. Thanks for the vid.
Can you cover the Greek "Lizard" camo pattern and it's history?? Also I would like a video about Greek Marine 1970's-80's Seaweed Camo an extremely rare pattern!!
Can you do a video on the Polish Panthera camo?
Manuel Gomez I like that camo
Another very interesting and good video. I never heard of the pattern. It's like hearing about some first steps of a great technological revolution.
Also, am I the only one who has to think of Atacs FG when seeing it?
Can you do Australian dpcu please?
Australian uniform history through both world wars next and up to current
Very interesting video, but I would also like to see a video on the camo's from across the Tasman sometime in the future. Keep up the good work mate!
In theory, its a good idea.People today created own camo and I saw some good examples. But large scale customising is something that could be problematic. They didnt have time to do it correct
Interesting what you have to come up with when you’re an army at the arse end of the supply chains of empire
Goes for everything down here mate. We call it Number 8 wire thinking as they had to make all sorts of shit out of 8 gauge fencing wire.
Is that an M5 Stuart at 9:19 coming off the landing craft? The lighting makes the front turret look wide and rectangular but it may just be the effect of those wedge shaped boxes (spaced Armour?) on the sides of the turret. After bit of googling, the wedge 'box' on the M5 is a shield for the AA MG when stowed and only on one side. And I don't think that's a M5 after several re-watchings I'm sure its a Valentine.
I’m surprised you haven’t done a video on British camos considering, you know... we invented the idea of modern camo haha
👍🏻🇦🇺 ❤️ ANZAC’s
3 COLOR DESERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uniform history could you do an ATAC’s Camouflage video?Please
Will you do the Mexican marine infantry camo or the Israeli standard uniform
It was the choicest camouflage of WW2.
Could we get a video on the history of the camo pattersn worn by the Australian Defense Forces........... well you can skip the stupid looking blue version of multicam our air force wears now, i got no idea why they chose it for anything other than looking different to the Australian armys version of multicam.
It just a recognition pattern like U.S does. When you see them you know they are air force.
Zero Two Five Like the US used to do, everyone will be wearing OCP by law.
@@zerotwofive4997 I understand that, it just seems like a wast of money having 1 uniform just for the purpose of being recognised as being from the air force and then havng to be issued with a proper camo pattern uniform when they ever get deployed anywhere, at least the US air force ABU pattern looks actually functional as camouflage.
@@somerandomalbinodude I agree.
Sounds like my current uniform except we bought it without the pressure of war time restrictions.
When I served in the NZ Army in the 1980s we were issued British pattern camouflage uniforms.
And we had proper Freedom sticks the L1A1
Er.... New Zealand had been organising and mobilising since 1939.
Could you do a video on the Nordic camouflages? Eg, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland.
8:06 George Clooney? Also, I'd love to see an ep. on British DPM.
Sorry to be picky but Kiwi's pronounced Z as zed not zee and khaki : kar key not kakky (slang for shitty) 👉😷👈👉👎
Jay Leno ok, if somebody kept pronouncing your name incorrectly, would you not try to educate them . ?
@Jay Leno there isn't a vowel to be found in New Zealand, and having travelled so wide and far and totally agree.... why I once spent 20 years in a Tibetan Buddhist monastery trying to teach them the correct pronunciation of Mr Fahrenheit, we settled on Bob.
@Jay Leno not really, it's in the pronunciation that's all.
Good vid on something I'd never heard of!
But, it "En-Zed" mate, not en-zee! LOL
We as Yanks butcher the language just to irk the English. It's not personal, mate.
Could you do the Australian camouflage next?
Really interesting
My Great Grandfather was sent back from the Middle East to start the Royal New Zealand 🇳🇿 Armoured Corps in Waiouru after his command of 19th Battalion (Wellington) in Crete
Um, England? I think you mean Great Britain... Welsh, Scottish and Irish soldiers fought and died under the GB flag not just English.
The best tank ever is the bob semple FIGHT ME BITCH, sorry got carried away
Could you do a video on the uniforms of the early 1980s? I'm trying to assemble a late Cold War uniform.
Which nation? The French, British, Germans, US, and Soviets all had different uniforms for all of the different branches of their military at that time, just as they do now.
Do a video on British mtp
#8 Wire.. Standard Operating Procedures for Kiwis..
Maybe do a video on auscam ,Australian camouflage,aussise fans would love it ,thanks
Hey you should do call of duty modern warfare 2 Russian airborne troops camouflage.
Basically the grand daddy of A-TACS Patterns!
Kiwi armee
If they had so much trouble getting combat uniform/equipment/men why not just have the new Zealand units fill non combat roles. Don't really need camo as badly if you're running supply convoys behind the lines
OmarRP Most NZ units fought in North Africa, Mediterranean and Italy. They wore standard commonwealth pattern gear there (with some modifications). The Pacific war was mainly fought by US and Australian units. So the need for camouflage was lower as the majority of troops didn’t need it in the theatre they were in.
Paint is never a good idea in camouflaging uniforms as when it dries it hardens and stiffens which irritates the skin also in the jungle will fade quickly in the harsh environment
I have one of the khaki shirts - with the sleeves torn short. My father and his friends all had loads for use as work shirts or hunting. We used to have an old .303 lying about and webbing, ammo and ammo belts. Got handed into the police in the late 80's, when people began to think leaving guns and ammo lying around for kids to play with was probably not a good idea. Found the bolt the other day, though. We also used to play with an old anti-aircraft gun that had been placed in a school play ground. So ... different times.
My father did not get sent overseas, but a lot of the people we knew had been. Story was all the stuff had come back from the North Africa - that the shirt was at El Alamein. Some of dads friends had been there, but none of them met Spike Milligan.
Spike tells a story about meeting a member of the Afrika Corps at a dinner after the war, and working out they must have been opposite one another in the lines. When he got home, he noticed the German had written on his menu 'Dear Spike, sorry I missed you in '42'
The prototype got lost, no one has seen it since.
You know your camo pattern is a little _too_ good when...
The best camo is made on site! Exactly where its meant to work
1:55 kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
British paratrooper ww2 camo origins?
Kiwis adapt on the fly, basic pattern for jungle fighting against a ruthless enemy.. nice presentation.! Considering the environment, very rare scraps around, but for the pictures.
3 (NZ) Div’s efforts in the Pacific campaign are all but forgotten even here in New Zealand.
The title ‘3 Division’ had been in use since 14 May 1942 after the appearance of Mead's operational order No. 3 in Fiji, and that date, for record purposes and convenience, was taken as the day on which the force achieved the status of a division, but throughout the whole course of its existence the force was never officially gazetted ‘3 Division’ but remained legally ‘Pacific Section, 2 NZEF’, the designation it was given on 25 February 1942 when the original title ‘8 Brigade Group’ was amended. The letters ‘IP’, indicating the theatre in which the division operated, were added on 10 November when Barrowclough's appointment from ’Commander 3 NZ Division’ was altered to ‘General Officer Commanding 2 NZEF in Pacific’.
The offical history of 3 (NZ) Div can be read here:
nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2Paci-_N74353.html
Love learning about the military from 3rd world countries. Interesting how they think.
Awesome as always!
Please, i begging you, make a video for HECU uniforms from Black Mesa!
Just a quick note England is part of the Great Britain. It is not the same as British or Britain. It's a bit like saying "Maine" when you mean the entire USA.
Apart from that, an interesting video. Thanks.
Correction Japan forced into WW2 by America then the Japanese were taken by surprise at Pearl Harbour after the US removal of its carrier's to protect them.
Love the NZ content.
You should do a video on SWAT uniforms of the 90s
Yes ! Thank you. That is a fascinating piece of history I have never heard of before.
Imagine if WW2 was in the colour era....
Not common in the US maybe. I'm British, we tend to gloss over the US involvement most of the time.
Ouch.
I'm lucky enough to have their most recent uniform, knew a dude in the navy and he mailed a full set to me in the states
Rule Zealandia!
What about Monaco or San Marino uniforms?
m05 when
J hat design hasn't changed much, has it?
Nice vid
BA Barry, thank you!
Plz do for France 🙏
Video idea: state specific uniforms of the US civil war or why did the Union choose dark blue to be it's standard color
Because it ( blue) had been the official uniform color since the 1770s Continental Army. Grey was a substitute standard for Militia uniforms and was the standard color for Cadet uniforms. There had been a window of opportunity in 1774-1775 for walnut brown and un bleached linen to be adopted. That opportunity closed when large shipments of French blue wool came in and the officers , politicians , Congress and wealthy society ( often all the same people) thought that looked better.
Good lord this is tedious!
When are you going to do the M1942 marine corps camouflage you mentioned several times in this video?
Very interesting!
Good job
Oh Metal Gear Solid 3 camo patterns please.
Would be awesome a video about Colombian camo (all three of them army, air force, and Marines). Are really beautiful for the tropical environment
2:01 A German Shepherd sitting in a vehicle with Waffen-SS members. Give me a better example of German Nazism. lol
-Every American history show
blah blah blah
Axis bad
Allies good
Please make video about OpsCore FAST helmets with Rifle rated ballistic helmet plates in the future? Also need Crye Precision's helmets with helmet accessories.