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Screamers Review - Off The Shelf Reviews
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2021
- This week Gary and Jess review and discuss, Screamers (1995) by Director, Christian Duguay. Starring, Peter Weller, Andrew Lauer and Jennifer Rubin.
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Just recently found this channel and have been on a 4 day Off The Shelf marathon. Thanks for the fun.
OTSR, your content has been of consistently excellent standard.
The conversational style developed between Gary, Iain and Jess, high quality, unique editing and genuine love for films really resonate with your audience. Who are grateful for your work. Long may it continue.
You are head and shoulders above all of your peers. Thank you OTSR 👊👊❤
Peter Weller has appeared in so many cult Sci-fi films Robocop 1 and 2, Leviathan, Of Unknown Origin, Naked Lunch, Screamers, Buckaroo Banzai, the mans a star of the genre.
just so talented your drawn to him
He looked odd, but still had a certain magnetism about him.
He was also in a couple of episodes of Star Trek Enterprise. Not the greatest eps, but of course Weller could read the phone book and still be compelling to watch.
It kinda feels like an episode of The Outer Limits that was expanded into a full movie.
Yes! I first saw this on Showtime in 95/96 and that's exactly what I though it was.
By the way... OTSR...one of the best UA-cam channels, from your friends in America!!!
Couldn't agree more! Greetings from Denmark 🙂
I was terrified after watching this as a kid. My dad loved showing me scary movies. Rip Dad.
My dad showed me this one too. Cheers to dads and condolences m8
@@perforce1 thanks 👍
You were lucky to have such a father. Condolences to you.
Roy Dupuis's (the guy always quoting Shakespeare) is literally one of my favorite movie characters ever. I love his final monologue. "I am my mother f***ing self, alone!" It was really clever how all his Shakespeare quote were from the same stanza of the same play. Great Easter egg and a really smart hint. By the way, thanks to the commenters. I totally forgot there even was a sequel. Guess I know what I'm watching on my night off.
This is another blast from the past. Thanks for this one lads.
I miss Iain. Have you guys considered recording a video conference to get the boys back together?
I saw this movie when I was 9 or something and the kid scared the shit out of me XD That scream.
I always took it that the later models were too good at being human to where they didn't really know it themselves, so when the nuke hit, it rebooted Becker to his injured soldier subroutine. As for Jessica, I took it as she was initially programed to get off the planet as a sleeper agent but ended up becoming too human and subsequently wanted to actually help Joe. The second Jessica was made once the screamers realized she'd gone rogue and managed to catch up to them at the ship.
There's also the idea that not all the screamers knew what the other models looked like, so it's entirely possible Jessica and Becker were aware of their primary mission and both waiting for the right time to kill Ross then the other not realizing they were 2v1 instead of 1v2. This may have given Jessica time to become more good, and Becker may have taken his best opportunity to kill Ross once paranoia was seeded in the group. Overall, the screamers became so good at deception that their plans became entirely detached and convoluted.
The movie does fall short on a lot of things (mostly pacing), but my fascination with Second Variety and Post World War Sci-Fi carried me through.
I love this movie. I own it. Been watching it since 96 as a wee lad.
Man I’m definitely a bit nostalgic about this one. There were definitely some shortcomings execution-wise, but especially as a kid I was more than happy to look past them for a chance to explore this dark robotic alternate reality.
The knife guy always reminded me of Coffee from The Abyss.
A vault in Fallout 3 referenced the David clones
With all Philip K Dick short stories there’s always a kernel of a true genius idea, some movies do it well (Blade Runner, Total Recall) but most don’t.
I really urge any fan of sci-fi to read his short stories.
Pretty sure a lot of the issues could be explained as the Earth governments using the nuked planet as a testing ground for the screamers. That why the soldiers had no idea or control of how they operated. Also it seems the 6 month lull with no fighting was because the screamers has been turned on and let loose. So by the time the messenger arrived everyone left in the enemy base was being massacred.
Enjoyable film with just a little bit of thought into how things got to that point.
Rumor has it it's actually 90s Peter Greene in this role instead of Peter Weller
A underrated film based off a great novel by the legendary Philip K. Dick. An interesting story that at times losses some continuity, but refocuses, good acting of course with Peter Weller who has been in many cult classic favorites over the decades. Decent SFX for the budget. Entertaining watch. Screamers 2...not so good. OTSR as always... great 👍 review, cheers!
Short story.
Thanks guys, I strongly endorse your raccomandation for this movie, point in fact, I'll be watching it tonight.
One of those flawed but amazing blast from the past I 'm happy to dive in since 95.
One of those movies that try to adapt a cool old scify stories, but maintain those old perceptions and ideas from the 50's that dont translate well into a movie becouse there is a lot going on to pack into a single movie and "modern" science, however it have an interesting concept and production did a good job puting all that despite limitations, also have a good and small cast that make it more easy to follow and make you care for the characters, as many here i remember seen this on tv and was nice to see Gary and Jess bring back this movie to review
Rented this movie when it first came out on VHS. I'd watch it again. I remember enjoying it.
It's definitely a 'B' movie scifi. I think its largest issue was the special effects budget. The acting by Peter Weller and Roy Dupuis is what saved it. I would still watch it today if it showed up on TV sometime.
Becker, using a 1950's era to present day e-tool and carrying case prop in a distant future movie. It's the small things that get noticed. Was still a great movie though.
Awesome review of this classic sci fi movie. I miss the 90s my childhood.
In screamers my favorite is the big David battle sequence man. ❤ the opening is awesome dudes.
Fun fact, the military compound has entirely been shot 5 minutes from my home at the Olympic Stadium, Montreal Canada. Mesmerizing (almost abandoned) place...
I would have liked it if they kept the war on Earth, NATO vs the Soviet Union. Yeah I get it, there was no Soviet Union in 1995, but they still could have made it like an alternative history where the Soviet Union never collapsed, or the Soviet Union being reformed in the future.
Because it's hard to be invested in a conflict between the New Economic Block and the Aliance, when you know nothing about them, or you don't know enough about them.
I like the remote planet setting because of the sense of the characters being isolated and abandoned. And in a way I think this film could be in the same universe as Starship Troopers (movie version). It has a similar look, and the same sense of citizens just being cannon fodder in a cynical war they don't understand.
Am I going crazy could have sworn OTS had already reviewed this
I thought exactly the same thing.
I am insane though, so...
This movie used to be on tv all the time when I was growing up it’s a great cheesy sci-fi film
46:27 I wonder what The Green stuff in the cups is?
What are the odds? I actually just finished reading a scanner darkly yesterday. You guys should totally review the movie, highly underrated classic.
That was one of Dick's better books. I remember reading the opening paragraph in a bookshop, and I just had to buy it then.
I had to click on this video as soon as I got the notification. Not a great movie but a good movie if you like 90's sci-fi horror. I feel this movie is a little overlooked I enjoyed your review and appreciate you bringing some attention to it.
I found your channel about a week ago and really enjoying it. I watch a few movie review channels and I hope you don't take this the wrong way but most of them have a more professional edge to it. I try and comment on great channels and i use a lot of complimentary words to describe them... one word I've never used is 'cosy.' You've looked into what you're talking about and come up with some interesting or important facts, entertaining with a real connection to movie viewers and your viewers. Your videos have a very intimate experienced as if we're sitting there with you. Going through your back catalogue at the moment and enjoying the movies that I haven't seen just as much as the ones I have. Many youtubers have their own tastes, mostly horror, mostly sci-fi, mostly action... one genre that dominates their content. You review a full gambit of blockbuster, to cult, anime to action, foreign to mainstream and new and old. Keeps things so fresh ant entertaining. Great stuff.
Kind words indeed. Thank you :)
Jess was a bit too critical of the movie here, but I love the review as always. Thank you for the video.
Eh I don’t think so, I like it when he’s a bit more hard to impress as am I
Dead or Alive, You're coming with me
I've seen this movie a couple of times, and I reckon Jess has it right with "50 movies crammed into one with not much time being spent on the ideas" kind of vibe. Bits and pieces of the movie are very interesting and cool, but its very hard to follow - for someone as simple as me anyway! Great reviews again sirs!!!
Brilliant film, loved the novel too.
It's not often that I disagree with Gary, but I am forced to this time. I thought this movie was truly terrible. I completely sympathize with Jess' frustration.
I've never seen this somehow but will be attempting to find it.
This one definitely takes me back...
Wasn't the words from Hendricson friend (the one who was electrocuted and dessintegrated) were "I cut this face from a major Cooper" and a Copper was a leader of an opposition... So it means that at the beggining of the film we already looking at the Screamer (friend of Hendricson when they talking at bar) summarize that Screamers were already evolving pretty long on this planet.
I assumed his face was cut off after the Davids invaded the base.
@@ThreadBomb The android said that got that face from Cooper (the leader of their enemies which means that it was long before the invasion).
I know there was a sex scene in this movie. (a) I remember them doing the standard 90s R "sex scene" and (b) the other new screamer says: We can bleed, and we can [F-word].
Might you be thinking of the sequel?
THANK YOU for reviewing this :D (I loved this movie)
🌟 Shelfers! I got my times mixed up & I'm a day late! Darn it! Still have a great weekend & thanks again OTSR! 👊👊👊
VHS 1996, good times.
Jess was hilarious. Would pay for a commentary track, probably be 4+hours
The general motivation of the Screamers was always to kill humans. They kind of used up their supply on the planet, so everything was riding on pushing a high ranking officer to leave. Why? Even one Screamer on Earth would immediately burrow and start the cycle again.
Also, for a B-movie Screamers The Hunting was a fun ride. Not brilliant, but a lot more competent than a sequel made that far out from the original usually gets.
I share your frustrations, Jess.
Honestly, the methods of the Claws aren't really well defined in Second Variety, so Screamers being a bit confusing makes sense. Like, Klaus(Becker) is a Type IV that has been acting long enough to be part of the Soviet Base but it was a Type I soldier that took out the north front and Type IV David that took out the Soviet Base Klaus was part of. Meanwhile, Tasso(Jessica), who is supposedly a Type II, has been pretending to be a civilian long enough for at least the grunts at the Soviet Base to have a routine with her. However, Klaus saves Rudi, his human soldier buddy, from being killed by the Davids only to kill him that night when Hendricks(son) arrives which leads to Tasso wanting to kill him, which would reveal him as a Type IV and could've put suspicion on her as the unaccounted for Type II. Then Klaus is only kept alive because Hendricks argues against killing him. All this for Tasso to kill him during a last stand at the overrun UN base with a bomb designed by the Claws to kill other Claws after which she urges Hendricks for info on how to get to the Moon Base.
Like, either the Claws really aren't working together like Tasso suggests and are following their own methods to human eradication (which would be weird given that the final piece shows Soldiers, Davids, and Tassos working together), or the Claws just put on one hellova show to trick Hendricks into getting one of them to the Moon Base.
Really, the main differences in Screamers and Second Variety is that Hendricks(son) gets on the ship instead of Tasso/Jessica, and the Tasso vs Tasso fight, which suggests that the Screamers truly had turned on each other instead of maintaining the primary motive to kill all humans.
Its one of those reviews where i have to stop 10 mins in cos i wanna watch this now! Gutted i didnt pick up the bluray in the 101 films sale last month -__- Bookmarked for later!!!
some guy showed me this in 2012 we were watching movies on the internet. It's a little ropey but damn this movie delivers.
I still think the ending of this film was lame compared to the book.
For those who haven't read it, at one point after meeting her, the female screamer (named Taso in the book) destroys another model of humanoid screamer using a specialized anti-screamer grenade. During the final fight prior to escaping, the Captain is critically wounded and allows Taso to take the shuttle back to Earth while he makes a last stand holding the other screamers off while she launches.
During the fight he sees three Tasos coming toward him. After first realizing he'd likely condemned humanity to extinction by sending a screamer back to Earth, he notes they all have the same anti-screamer grenade on their hips the first Taso did. Before he is killed, he notes the irony that the screamers had evolved to become so much like humans that they were developing means to kill each other.
There was a novelisation? Movie novelisations are usually written from the script, before the movie is completed, so it's possible the director changed the ending due to budget constraints.
@@ThreadBomb No, the story came out before the movie. It was called "Second Variety," written in 1953 by Philip K. Dick.
Great film. love the matte paintings in this film and I thought the second film in this series wasn't too bad either. Great review as always guys.
Love this movie 🎯
Complaining about ambiguity in a Philip K Dick story is like complaining that apples taste like apples. The unknowability of reality is sort of Dick's main theme... Anyway, I love this film, even if it does meander and plod a bit. I'm wondering if the effects were later updated, because I think the skeleton blasted by the rocket at the end of the film looked different on my old DVD to the version I saw on TV a few years ago.
Watched this when I was a kid a dug it. I love how you guys are trying to figure out this batsh*t crazy story.
Jess looks like he's 30 bong hits in. Red Eye Dragon Deluxe
This is one of the movies my dad would rent multiple times from blockbuster, but we never bought it... lol, different times.
Great review, I’ve always liked the visual style to this movie even though it does lack a lot of production quality. Its a dark depressing tale of human nature and there are many differences from the actual short story but it still manages to have a certain charm to it. I still own my 20 year old full screen dvd of this movie
You should do ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK/L.A.
Wait wait wait so the cops knew internal affairs were setting them up?
Nanananana screamers
Another gem! Its amazing how many works of Philip K Dick that have been translated into movies and games.
This is my all time favorite movie review channels, but where is Ian? I love Gary and Ian’s reviews. No offense to this new guy, but please tell me Ian is coming back.
Great video you guys!
*TURN UP!*
Nobody seems to be able to accurately translate a Philip K Dick book into a film. They always change too much, and let their egos ruin it. I don’t think anyone will ever do a faithful adaptation of a PKD story. I think he’s too “out there” even today. 🤯🤯🤯🤡🤡🤡🌍🌍🌍
Nobody? Ever heard of the 1982 masterpiece called Blade Runner?
@@pablosmith5473 dumb ass, it’s nothing like the original story he wrote! 🤯🤯🤯🤡🤡🤡🌍🌍🌍
@@pablosmith5473 Blade Runner is my favourite film but it’s not an accurate representation of Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep. Which is probably for the best.
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 For me, it is one of those very rare case of the film being better than the novel. I've read it many times and obviously seen the film hundred times too but for me the film is much more engulfing, atmospheric and engaging than the book. I think they did a terrific work at transferring it on the silver screen. Taken as is from the novel, I don't think it would has been that appealing.
Dick's novels are too meandering and fragmented to be made into a good movie without being changed. Or maybe it could be a good movie, but it would be rejected by most of the audience (e.g. like the films of Jodorowsky or David Lynch).
I've always loved this movie. and all it's flaws
I hope Iian is doing ok
Great review as always guys. Not related to this video but... Resident Evil Village is being released tomorrow. Would love to see Gary play through this : )
Peter weller is a boss.
Robo-Graboids?
New subscriber from the U.S. Great review, I too felt the David screamer was insultingly obvious but dang it was still a very enjoyable and original sci-fi film with great acting and above par production design so big guy needs to lighten up a tad. It’s like the movie flew over and pissed in his cuppa tea 😅
Another great review keep them coming 😌
I still own this on vhs.. lol
You’re my hero!!
You guys are the coolest movie fiends around 👻👻
i like the sequal to this aswell
An 80’s B-Movie that awoke in the mid
90’s. Not an offensive film by all means tho not good. Gotta tonne of heart and ambition, but it ain’t executed well enough for my liking
Probably try having a look at 2005 cult classic Sky High
Another great Peter Weller movie. That kid was creepy af.
Youre still part of the family Jess but youre such a buzzkill lol
This falls alongside Virus and Leviathan for me as another decent-but-off The Thing ripoff
Great movie loved it
were is Iain?
Come on,it is a Cult B Movie :)
Shelf life
😀Legends. You just keep it up guys
Did something happen with ian?
I just love it,in 95 :)
👍🎬🎥👊
This movie was a mess but a fun enjoyable mess, the sequel though was just trash.
No Ian , no like:-)
So I guess only the main character was still a human? And literally everything else on the planet is a robot
I like to imagine they were all robots and the Screamers' AI manufacturing got confused between the older models and the new ones.
No, the main character's friend was originally a human until the base was taken over by Davids. Ace, the guy from the spaceship, was human, as was the guy who got a knife in the chest. And we assume that everyone else in the base at the beginning of the movie was human. BTW, "What is human?" is a question original writer Philip K Dick thought was important, and his answer was any being capable of empathy.
Shut up Jess! LOL
The dude going on and on -, this doesn't make any sense , I don't know what is going on , got tiresome, before even halfway though.
I usually prefer Jess to that other guy in these reviews but he's ULTRA annoying in this one, constantly interrupting and talking over Gary and his "it doesn't make any sense" statement over and over again gave me a headache real quick
“That other guy”? How very dare you!
I found Jess a bit annoying, in part because I disagreed with his opinion, but I appreciated that he was just giving a spontaneous reaction, not being a dick.
Can i come with you? ;)
Where is Iain?
What happened to the other guy?
👍 👍
Oh for gods sake, how rude!
Pretty sure he’s already said there is no issue between them and that Iain will be back.
@@Silver-rx1mh
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@@andrewblanchard2398 Idiot...
Ya iain is the best
He definitely would have done a good job at rating the attractiveness of the main actress, always my favorite part of the reviews
All i need to know is will Iain be back? Yes or no?
Iain was abducted by Aliens, unfortunately. Currently he is due to be returned to Earth in about a month.