TANK FEST 2021 (Friday) - MEGATRON Challenger 2 TES - Full Tank Chat Live - 4K - The Tank Museum
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2021
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Amateur footage of the 'Tank Chat Live' by David Willey on the Challenger 2 TES 'Megatron' at Tank Fest 2021.
Recorded on a handheld Panasonic G80.
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The challenger is an absolute beast of MBT
Fr 😮😮😮❤️❤❤.
The Challenger 2 MBT is an impressive tank hopefully the Challenger 3 will be even more impressive and deadly, I do need to go to tank fest one of these days to experience the noise the thunder of tanks.
I am restoring a Chieftain MK10 MBT that is fully operational and very nearly restored all we have left to do is to respray the outside. I intend to post videos on how to maintain the Chieftain, starting procedures of the engine, starting and operating turret, using the improved fire control system (IFCS), trimming the gyroscopes system to stabilise the 120mm barrel and many other features on the Chieftain MBT like operating the search light. I will also discuss the L60 Leyland engine good and bad points.
Also, we recently completed restoration work of a 38 year old Leyland 804 tractor that might be of interest!
That's fantastic, I will be sure to subscribe so I can keep up with your work on the Chieftain!
I adore the sound the L60 produces so the more the better! I will also be very interested to hear your opinions on the good and bad points.
Best of luck with it Simon!
@@rvarmour9255 Thank you RV Armour .
I too love the roar of the L60 engine whilst the L60 under performed in its infants years this engine came good towards the end of its life but sadly the L60 will always be remembered for being a high maintenance engine in its early life but in all honesty it was only performing 450hp having to move around 46 odd ton of tank back in 1966.
I think towards the end the variance was up to 14a which the MOD did most of the improvements due to British Leyland failing business. I understand some of the top engineers formed a company that worked with the MOD.
I have joined your channel too 👍👍
Just curious, and not being pedantic or trolling. But how can something be 'better than new' condition?
If its a typo I'll delete.
@@mikeycraig8970 Thats OK Mikey what I mean by that is the care and attention gone into restoring this old tractor is better than when the tractor was new coming out of the factory - Higher quality of workmanship.
I can see how that reads odd and will change the wording.
@@simongleed OK, thanks. I understand now.
Fantastic day. Megatron made my chest throb with the sound of that massive engine.
It's a unique feeling that's for sure. The Leopard 1 always causes quite the rumble too!
It's Lord Megatron, which fitting, because many famous British official always got title like sir, or lord, so Megatron is British, love that tanks
"I am Megatron, Leader of the Decepticons!"
- Challenger II Megatron
That no matter what others say the Challenger is one awesome piece of kit. We, Australia, bought Abrams, 2nd hand ones to boot, but nothing beats the sight of Megatron bearing down on you.
One of these "you have to see it in person!" type of things, unfortunately. At the end of the day though, any modern MBT is a sight to behold and still a formidable piece of military hardware but there is something especially formidable about 'Megatraon'!
2nd hand completely refurbished and upgraded, do your research.
@@thh4584 I doubt there are many people who would deny that the latest Abrams is a phenomenal MBT and Australia are very fortunate to have purchased them.
Exported versions of the Abrams used to be heavily downgraded compared to their native counterparts but I believe the ones being exported to Australia and Poland are the full fat Abrams M1A2 SEPv3.
@@thh4584 I know they were totally refurbished M1A1 ex USMC Abrams now brought up to M1A2 SEP V3 standard.
The Challenger does indeed "look good" but the reality is that because of chronic underfunding it is regarded as somewhat obsolete in comparison to the latest M1 A3 Abrams and the Leopard 2 A6/7 . The Germans are always upgrading the Leopard 2 A6 and the Canadians with whom I was attached with in the late 90's and late 2000's would never swap for the Challenger 2 . If the UK govt aren't investing properly into Tank Development then you get to run around with an out of date piece of kit.
It was one hell of a machine to see live
Great Britain should revive " Conqueror " as a moniker of their next MBT.
What an absolute unit,definitely the largest MBT in the world.
everybody gangsta until the challenger transforms to an actual megatron
Hiding in plain sight all along!
Does this mean the F 35 Lightning II is Starscream
damn that turret traverse is alot faster IRL than shitty war thunder
be careful not to leak any classified documents to make it more op
@@tobilikebacon ikr
I’m here for the tractor pull.
I have always thought this is the top tank in the world.
And this one … equipped like this… what a beast
man it must suck to be on the battle field trying to fight this .
A formidable opponent for any opposition! The critics of Challenger 2 often only look at the specifications on paper and don't take into account real-world ability or the crews.
@@rvarmour9255 How does the real world ability differ from the data? And British tank crews have consistently shown themselves to be no better than any other nation's within NATO, so it's hardly the case that inflated sense of British ability will make up for hard deficiencies in the vehicle, like a significantly worse gun, and lower mobility than our contemporaries.
Challenger 3 is making a huge number of improvements, but over the years of NATO exercises, export trials, and combat, Challenger 2 has proven the data correct. The vehicle, when compared with other NATO MBTs, has issues in every relevant area of MBT design. EVERY AREA.
-Firepower. Rifled gun is woefully obsolete. It offers zero accuracy advantage when using APFSDS, whilst HESH, the round it's optimised for, has been outdated since the 1970s. The L30A1 CHARM has worse muzzle velocity, bore energy, and significantly worse penetration downrange with the fin round than smoothbore rivals, and lacks any form of HEAT/ programmable round. Very glad to see this dinosaur being retired for a modern gun on Challenger 3.
-Fire control. It's 2022 and the British still are 5 years away from a commander's independent thermal vision system... The TOGS thermals are a generation 1 system, so obsolete and low in quality that it caused the 2003 friendly fire kill on another Challenger 2, being somehow mistaken for a T-55. Not only is the system outdated as hell, but it's shared by commander and gunner (driver has none at all) leading to zero night hunter-killer capability. Meanwhile, on exercises and in competition for export, the fire control system has proven consistently inferior to our NATO peers' tanks, with lower hit ratios at all ranges, in all conditions. This should not be a surprise, as Challenger 1 was also lamented for among the worst fire control systems of its era, noted in multiple export trials.
-Mobility. It's not all about speed, though Challenger lacks in that department for sure. Compared to Leopard 2 and Leclerc, the Challenger 2 is beaten in every area of mobility, from torque curves and acceleration, to trench crossing and vertical obstacle. In Greek trials, Challenger 2E frequently stripped its own tracks when mounting obstacles, and the vehicle's ridiculous 75 ton weight in TES standard means it's the only NATO tank too heavy to cross NATO standard 70 ton bridges. This weight is a vast logistical issue.
-Protection. The single most overhyped aspect of the vehicle. If I have to read "70 RPG hits" one more time, when the actual incident was 13 hits, several of which were not even HEAT, but fragmentation anti-personnel warheads which pose zero threat to armoured vehicles. The one time a modern weapon hit a Challenger 2, an RPG-29, it penetrated the hull through the ERA, because (surprise) a tandem warhead will mess you up when it hits a 76mm steel plate with some ERA and nothing else protecting it. The vehicle's Dorchester armour hides from criticism because "it's classified, you don't know," when there's fairly well documented evidence that even the turret is, at most, 550-600mm KE protection equivalent, which is nothing to brag about when Abrams and Leopard 2 are pushing 800-1000mm. A Greek test officer compared the Challenger 2's protection data to the Leclec, and exclaimed his disappointment after having heard the vehicle's reputation prior to seeing the data. Regardless of how pissed off people get claiming it's "not a weakness", the driver's viewing trench in the hull is absolutely an issue, leaving only a 200mm space for an armour package between the driver's optics and the turret ring, which is far too small to provide any significant protection. As it stands, about 70% of the frontal arc of Challenger 2 would be an easy penetration for modern APFSDS rounds compared to closer to 30-40% for the Abrams and Leopard 2.
So, how is the "real-world ability" of the tank and its crews addressing these issues?
Yet kids in the Middle East were able to knock out leopard’s with a few Molotov’s lol
The abrams uses chobham armour and Dorchester is an upgraded version of that
"We may be getting some letters from Greta soon" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fave vehicle? Probably all those amazing Shermans, though the Ha -Go was great too. Had a long chat with the crew on the 3rd day.
Can't deny how amazing it is to see a rare Japanese vehicle running and in such great condition. Sadly this is the last Tank Fest that it will be running at before it returns home to Japan. Will be missed.
Absolute terrifying tank
Wow, it has a reversing camera. I am impressed.
Rather low tech for a £4million+ vehicle but at least it's there haha!
What a sound! 🎶🎶🎶 Sends shivers down my back..! Beast!
Cracking footage!
You have a like and a new subscriber.
You can imagine just how intimidating the sound alone would be!
Thank you for the compliment, like and subscription Darren! Very much appreciated.
Fr 😂😂😅…… ❤😅❤😅❤😢😂
I was there it was awesome
If only they had managed to get the Challenger 3 prototype there, then it would have been something really special!
That's good camo
Big British MONSTER! OH YEAH!
Best bit of kit out there.. ask any iraqi tank commander.. if that 120's got a bead on you it's game over... longest kill
This is Much better than any russian tank
@4:20 solid roof anecdote, presume that was an intentional test rather than an accicent? Explosive or training round?
I had assumed that it was during a training exercise using a training round, which if true is incredibly worrying haha! Regardless, it would be some reassurance to know that a 152mm round didn't penatrate the roof, but obviously a live explosive round would have been the end of the tank regardless.
@@rvarmour9255 HE doesn't have that much penatration, and modern MBTs usually have decent top armor so its not too unlikely it was a live round
2022 will we see top down cages added
They dont work its already been proven
It always creeps me out when I think about how tanks are basically massive guns attached to a rolling box that is designed to literally take a full-on shot from one of those massive guns. And the boxes have people inside them.
As fans, we love the engineering, technology and sheer spectacle of a tank but we must always remember why they exist.
Fortunately, The Tank Museum make a concerted effort to ensure that we never forget the horrors that those who have served in them experienced and will sadly continue to experience for decades to come.
Big question, is the mantlet hollow on both sides.
According to the sekrit documents, yes...
@@rvarmour9255 No.
Where was everybody??
This is footage from the Friday at Tank Fest 2021 which has a smaller number of people than the weekend and features a limited display. Also, most people were situated to the left of the camera as not all areas of the arena were used on this day. Thanks for watching!
Doesn't have all the caging on it though.
If you compare images of other Challenger 2's with bar armour then you'll notice that the bar armour is simply covered by the camouflage netting on this TES version. It must be working as it's hard to see haha!
Gaijin Please
Это не мегатрон...это - мастодонт!
The tank I wanted to see in Battlefield 2042 😟
It is a shame. Unfortunately for now it appears as though one tank in Battlefield 2042 is based on the Russian T14 Armata and another on the Israeli Merkava mixed with an American Abrams... Fingers crossed they will add vehicles based off of British designs in future updates though!
@@rvarmour9255 fingers crossed
*Sips tea* Ello T-80. You come for death?
중세 기사의 그물 갑옷 같다.
Вот где надо носить эти маски - куча пыли, отработанного топлива.
Haha I don't think it is good for us either!
Thicc
It's a shame that the Challenger lags behind MBTs from other nations because of a lack of funding . This one certainly looks impressive but if given a choice I would have the Leopard 2 A6 (7) anyday .
I don't think many people could argue with that opinion. The lack of upgrades has been incredibly disappointing and detrimental to the state of the British tank fleet. However, Challenger 3 will provide the MBT Britain has been longing for.
@@rvarmour9255 I wouldn't pin any hopes on that anytime soon . The UK isn't financially flush to build a completely new tank and talk from some of my army buddies is that we may have to order a few Leopard 2 A6s as it is a lot cheaper. When you don't invest properly and neglect proper research & development for 15 years it comes back to bite you very very hard. I know from first hand that the Leopard 2 would be a most welcome upgrade.
@@jurgen6768 Once again, your points are completely valid. However, I would like to see the UK maintain some independence and continue to train the highly skilled workers required for arms development.
Also, the funds for the Challenger 3 project have been committed so unless the costs rise exponentially then we will should see it completed. The estimated in service date and overall numbers are disappointing but better than nothing.
It is important to support the arms industry in the UK, which simply buying Leopard 2 tanks would not achieve.
I would still rather be in a chally - much better protection from the best armour in the world ( upgraded “chobham” armour code named “Dorchester” )
@@EmperorLionflame Gee what a shame then that Britain decided to drop their 120mm rifled guns and go with the German 120mm/L55 for their Challenger 3. Now you are gonna be stuck with "dated Tungsten rounds" as well. Also a real shame that the Challengers failed every single time they went up in trials against Leopard 2 and were never exported. I guess other nations just don't appreciate how much better the Challenger is. Honestly baffling how you Brits are so high on your own propaganda.
outdated - challenger 3 is from Rheinmetall.
Challenger 3 is being made by Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land (RBSL), a combination of the two companies.
@@rvarmour9255 steered by rheinmetall , concept from rheinmetall, german canon
It's hardly outdated, especially compared to potential enemies, the reason it has all the extras on it is to keep it up to date
If you listened, you'd have understood that this is the testbed version of the vehicle.
@@heycidskyja4668 i was literally there on the day. This is the full loadout configuration with everything they take to the battlefield.
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Challenger 2 and M1A are almost same tank designs...
both uses germany make cannon gun
The Challenger 2 uses a British made Royal Ordnance L30 cannon, the Challenger 3 will use the German-made Rheinmetall Rh-120 L/55 whereas the Abrams uses a license-built variant of the Rheinmetall Rh-120 L/44.
Other than that almost every component of the two tanks are different. Their concept and role as an MBT are comparable but that is all, both nations even had different criteria when designing them. For example, the USA favoured speed and mobility over range and protection when compared to the British doctrine.
One has a gas turbine, the other has a V12 diesel. One uses traditional suspension the other uses hydra gas, one has the most advanced armour out Dorchester the other does not. One has a full length smooth bore of the latest design the other does not. Most especially one has not been destroyed by enemy action in its first and second variant. Now it’s variant three. None of the bits are interchangeable and are completely independent. The ammo 120 Smoothbore may fit as that is built by Reinmetal
@@rvarmour9255
hi R A...
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thank explain about the tank with a cannon gun...
which one is better strong destroy the tank completely...
L/44 or L/55
@@anthonywilson4873
hi A W...
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thank explain about tank use fuel
@@bestamerica No problem! The L/55 is the superior cannon. It has shown an increased muzzle energy of 14% over the L/44 with the same dispersion thanks to its longer barrel.