They never did conquer Parthia, all the Germanic tribes, etc. In fact they were going to get ripped apart by other steppe people later on if they had held on.
The basic premise is all wrong. To think that any civilization that invariably involves subjugating ‘other’ people and their lands, can hold out for ever is a flawed thesis. Any empire stretching many boundaries and tribes and allegiances centrally administered will inevitably give way to the pressures. It may happen quickly or over centuries. To cry about it and assume that it can be avoided is a pointless venture. USA is not Rome. That is a flawed comparison to start with. USA is a nation state with defined borders and a constitution. Yes it will decline over time, but not because of the reasons Rome declined over. The rest of te world is economically catching up and that means America will simply have to be a power among many; this is the natural course of history. One people strike out and then eventually others catch up. It is not something to lament. It is the march of human progress. The Roman thesis is inherently flawed in its understanding. It presumes that only one people have the divine right to rule over other people. And if that is challenged, then that one people and only that one people have a right to subjugate the rest. This idea always leads to conflict and then the crumbling of many civilizations at once. A huge step back for mankind. Nations must evolve peacefully without the idea of a right to supremacy.
U quoted ‘The Life of Brian’ which was set in the first third of the first century (AD) not in Palestine, but in Israel (1407BC - 70AD). U betray ur political leanings right away.
"If we don't learn from history, we're doomemed to repeat it "
and gete we are, on our way back to history, repeating it's horrors😫😫😫😥😫
So many parallel similarities with Rome and the West. Why isn't it obvious to everyone to learn by history?
Egos/Self/Pride blind souls.
Rome-where the wealthy wouldnt pay their taxes and the poor couldnt
Superb . Masterly
They never did conquer Parthia, all the Germanic tribes, etc. In fact they were going to get ripped apart by other steppe people later on if they had held on.
@Borodomir Slavotov and then came the Vandals
@Borodomir Slavotov After they sacked Rome
The basic premise is all wrong. To think that any civilization that invariably involves subjugating ‘other’ people and their lands, can hold out for ever is a flawed thesis. Any empire stretching many boundaries and tribes and allegiances centrally administered will inevitably give way to the pressures. It may happen quickly or over centuries. To cry about it and assume that it can be avoided is a pointless venture. USA is not Rome. That is a flawed comparison to start with. USA is a nation state with defined borders and a constitution. Yes it will decline over time, but not because of the reasons Rome declined over. The rest of te world is economically catching up and that means America will simply have to be a power among many; this is the natural course of history. One people strike out and then eventually others catch up. It is not something to lament. It is the march of human progress. The Roman thesis is inherently flawed in its understanding. It presumes that only one people have the divine right to rule over other people. And if that is challenged, then that one people and only that one people have a right to subjugate the rest. This idea always leads to conflict and then the crumbling of many civilizations at once. A huge step back for mankind. Nations must evolve peacefully without the idea of a right to supremacy.
U quoted ‘The Life of Brian’ which was set in the first third of the first century (AD) not in Palestine, but in Israel (1407BC - 70AD). U betray ur political leanings right away.
The province was called Judaea I think. Definitely not Israel.
Not a Palestine, for sure
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Palestine is just from the Greek term for Philistines. It was certainly used in the classical world, by everyone from Herodotus to Josephus.