First off, Dr. Ratio's VA is killing it. He's really nailing that pompous tone while still letting Ratio's genuine desire to help people come through. Secondly, Ratio's not so bad. His demeanor is...poor, but his heart's in the right place.
Wait so what was his intentions through this entire quest? And how exactly did he make researchers realise not to idolise Geniuses? Guess I should’ve spent my time carefully reading each and every dialogue cuz now I couldn’t understand anything
@@lavendermelon7889 He was there to help with the problem of the disappearing researchers. Ratio just used what was happening as an opportunity to teach the researchers a lesson. He put them in a situation where they had to depend on themselves. I think they mentioned a researcher named Adler had been the one to finally get them out of the spacial thing Ratio had dropped them into.
what makes me emotional is that since ratio thinks a helping hand prevents fools from learning how to pick themselves up, the fact he offers help to aventurine both verbally ("tell me if you can't hold on any longer") and via the note (when he's on his "last legs," in a moment of solitude and despair) shows how much he respects him 😭
@@scampadversary This is because he knows about the tragedy of Sigonia and how that affects Aventurine. He tells you later in 2.3 that the void within him "cannot be filled with talent or knowledge", which is why he extends the tiniest bit of companionship towards him.
You gotta give it to screwllum. He was able to handle an intellectual conversation and debate w/o getting "ratiod". I mean planer screwllum is HSR version of cybertron
3:55 Not gonna lie. I didn't expect that statement from ratio. Since he appeared he felt more like someone who doesn't care about idiots. But was happy to see my expectations subverted.
I fucking cried at ratios ideology , my tution sir said the same thing to me ones about my potential and that's it's an teachers responsiblity to bring out the best in his students and hearing it from ratio fucking broke me , it's hard to explain in words but man I am deviated
A lot of people in the comments seems to think Dr.Ratio is the one pulling the string. That's not exactly true. We don't know for sure if he was the one who stole the Phase Flame from Ruan Mei, but we can be sure that he is very much knowledgeable about Ifrit's plan, just like how he knows about Ruan Mei "expiriment". I would like to think that he knew about Ifrit's intentions, but decided to only reduced casualty so he can use the incident as a lesson for the so called "researchers". This theory would fall in lines more with Screwlum's comment about both parties modus operandi.
yep i agree. i rewatched the cutscene to get clarification for myself and I got exactly what you did. looking back, i can understand why people think ratio did everything because of 2:54, but that ignores the previous dialogue that says screwllum is only hypothesizing, not confirming ratio was pulling the strings
While yes Dr ratio could have prevented it and chose to perpetuate the chaos, he was the one who saved all the researchers and Brought them to the seclusion zone
@@lavendermelon7889 It was the DUke's plan but Ratio and Screwlllum already knew what was about to happen, instead of stopping it directly they choose to observe and wait, hence what Ratio called "Silent Wisdom"
I like Dr Ratio a lot already. He is the pompous genius, the guy who knows he is actually above most others in terms of inteligience. It's understandable to hate stupidity and foolishness, i myself find some people's choices to be ridiculous, had they just thought things through. I like that he didn't outright stop the attack, but he intervened in a way that will teach the attacked a lesson. As he said, only when the fools have no one else to help them out do they actually pick themselves up. He hates stupidity, so he gave them 1 option, the need to think smarter. Even if there was negativity among it, they would still come to the right conclusion. He gives you the question and forces you to answer it by yourself.
My take is Dr. Ratio knew the Inferno attack would happen soon. That’s why he went to the space station to ‘observe’ what all these ‘genius’ people would do without any help from Herta. While keeping the situation in his favor to teach these ‘idiots’ a valuable lesson at the same time.
i'm so happy they're working together now. and new SU proves that Screwllum is inspired by Ratio’s ideas and wants to bring them to life. i absolutely love how these two characters develop through each other
Those two are like sides of the coin, on one hand Dr Ratio appears condescending and strange, but overtime u learn that he is quite emphathatic. On the other side, Ruan Mei appears caring. Before this patch, she gives us gifts in the simulated universe and appeared kind. Even in this patch, she offered the MC cake. But turns out its all manipulation baby~
late reply but,, I feel like ruan mei is mischaracterized by some people sometimes. she's not a terrible person,, she's also not the best. she doesn't really understand how to love, and her past experiences don't help in that department. but despite that, she still cares about her creations (the cat creatures (?)) deep down. both ratio and ruan mei are morally grey characters, it's perfectly fine to like one more than the other but I wish people stopped making her look like a manipulative heartless person when she really isn't
@@yuiscene preach! She is not manipulative and evil. Same as Ratio Ruan Mei is clearly morally grey. If put simply, she just doesn't understand emotions and boundaries.
He want everyone be equal intelligence as him (if possible). Not waiting the answers by someone smarter than you but by your own wise choose. It's doesn't matter if it's fail, you learn to improve. Practice makes perfect, failure become lessons.
So in the end... Both Hertha and Ruan Mei never knew Dr Ratio (whether they were pretending not to know him for confidential reasons or Dr. Ratio removed their memories in an unknown menthod). Only us, Screwllum and Asta knew him.
In the end Herta sends a message saying that she doesn't know him so she probably doesn't know him maybe she used something to make people believe that yes like Ruan Mei did
@_mika-mikazuki_ I'm asking myself the same thing. Al haitham is just a guy who keeps to himself and does the bare minimum that's needed of him. He's not even that arrogant unless you bother him and could care less about the masses
Bro, Alhaitham is a completely different type of character. He himself is definitely wont wish to become like Ratio because it's a pain in the ass for him to deal with people.
Both Screwllum and Ratio are already aware of the Duke's attack but instead they choose to observe, pretty sure Herta also knows this considering that she didn't bother about the Duke
@@DriedJizzSock In itself, mara doesn't warp your body. The physical stuff seems to be a consequence of the specific way(s) the Abundance chose to gift the Alliance races with immortality. Given that the known effects of those "gifts" themselves act as a cancer vaccine (the alteration of genetic material and transcription that allows a cell to become cancerous just can't happen anymore for no understood reason), it's a case of curing the problem you know about leading to exciting new problems you don't know about.
@@rushalias8511 Or possibly he'd consider Screwllum calling him "Doctor" the insult and Screwllum picked up on that. A key point in the worldview Ratio is expounding to justify his actions is that he at every opportunity states the members of the Genius Society possess intellectual gifts and talent he himself lacks. This is why he considers them unsuitable role models and his own approach of constant hard work and critical thinking superior for this role. (He isn't necessarily saying that they're lazy; rather, that normal people can't even recognize whether a genius is exerting effort or not.) It could naturally follow for him to consider Screwllum calling him "Doctor" the equivalent of humouring a child. (Again, that isn't necessarily so, but Dr. Ratio has a notably negative attitude.)
So if i have understood this correctly, there was no annihiliation gang and dr ratio just orcestrated the whole thing to cure idiocy in herta spaceship? Correct me if i am wrong i just can't wrap my head around the ending hahaha
I'm pretty sure the attack was going to happen regardless, but ratio used a piece of the phase flame to control it? because he said that the researchers would be space waste? dude idk
The attack was real, the researchers would have been thrown into space by the Duke had Ratio not used the Phase Flame to change their destination to somewhere safe, he then decided to use the situation to fuck with the Genius Society just because.
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First off, Dr. Ratio's VA is killing it. He's really nailing that pompous tone while still letting Ratio's genuine desire to help people come through. Secondly, Ratio's not so bad. His demeanor is...poor, but his heart's in the right place.
Wait so what was his intentions through this entire quest? And how exactly did he make researchers realise not to idolise Geniuses?
Guess I should’ve spent my time carefully reading each and every dialogue cuz now I couldn’t understand anything
@@lavendermelon7889 He was there to help with the problem of the disappearing researchers. Ratio just used what was happening as an opportunity to teach the researchers a lesson. He put them in a situation where they had to depend on themselves. I think they mentioned a researcher named Adler had been the one to finally get them out of the spacial thing Ratio had dropped them into.
@@madamaonyx8844 ohhh now it makes a hell lotta sense
I think this quest highlights that Veritas Ratio is a stark contrast to the members of the Genius Society
Same VA as Dr. Baizhu or Dotorre?
Ngl Ratio's ideology of "life marked by failure is a life worth living" hits deep after 2.1 after seeing Aventurine's story
what makes me emotional is that since ratio thinks a helping hand prevents fools from learning how to pick themselves up, the fact he offers help to aventurine both verbally ("tell me if you can't hold on any longer") and via the note (when he's on his "last legs," in a moment of solitude and despair) shows how much he respects him 😭
@@scampadversary
This is because he knows about the tragedy of Sigonia and how that affects Aventurine. He tells you later in 2.3 that the void within him "cannot be filled with talent or knowledge", which is why he extends the tiniest bit of companionship towards him.
You gotta give it to screwllum. He was able to handle an intellectual conversation and debate w/o getting "ratiod". I mean planer screwllum is HSR version of cybertron
3:55
Not gonna lie. I didn't expect that statement from ratio. Since he appeared he felt more like someone who doesn't care about idiots. But was happy to see my expectations subverted.
He s suppose to be the antithesis of the genius society, who s goal is just to collect knowledge but keep most of it to themselves
I knew what his intentions were when I read his character info in-game
I fucking cried at ratios ideology , my tution sir said the same thing to me ones about my potential and that's it's an teachers responsiblity to bring out the best in his students and hearing it from ratio fucking broke me , it's hard to explain in words but man I am deviated
A lot of people in the comments seems to think Dr.Ratio is the one pulling the string. That's not exactly true. We don't know for sure if he was the one who stole the Phase Flame from Ruan Mei, but we can be sure that he is very much knowledgeable about Ifrit's plan, just like how he knows about Ruan Mei "expiriment". I would like to think that he knew about Ifrit's intentions, but decided to only reduced casualty so he can use the incident as a lesson for the so called "researchers". This theory would fall in lines more with Screwlum's comment about both parties modus operandi.
yep i agree. i rewatched the cutscene to get clarification for myself and I got exactly what you did. looking back, i can understand why people think ratio did everything because of 2:54, but that ignores the previous dialogue that says screwllum is only hypothesizing, not confirming ratio was pulling the strings
when we first meet him he's in ruan mei's "experimentation base", so maybe he did steal the flame after all?
While yes Dr ratio could have prevented it and chose to perpetuate the chaos, he was the one who saved all the researchers and Brought them to the seclusion zone
Wait so all those ppl disappearing was Dr ratios doing? Or was it duke inferno’s doing and dr ratio intervened and just saved them all?
@@lavendermelon7889 It was the DUke's plan but Ratio and Screwlllum already knew what was about to happen, instead of stopping it directly they choose to observe and wait, hence what Ratio called "Silent Wisdom"
I like Dr Ratio a lot already. He is the pompous genius, the guy who knows he is actually above most others in terms of inteligience. It's understandable to hate stupidity and foolishness, i myself find some people's choices to be ridiculous, had they just thought things through. I like that he didn't outright stop the attack, but he intervened in a way that will teach the attacked a lesson.
As he said, only when the fools have no one else to help them out do they actually pick themselves up. He hates stupidity, so he gave them 1 option, the need to think smarter.
Even if there was negativity among it, they would still come to the right conclusion. He gives you the question and forces you to answer it by yourself.
My take is Dr. Ratio knew the Inferno attack would happen soon. That’s why he went to the space station to ‘observe’ what all these ‘genius’ people would do without any help from Herta. While keeping the situation in his favor to teach these ‘idiots’ a valuable lesson at the same time.
i'm so happy they're working together now. and new SU proves that Screwllum is inspired by Ratio’s ideas and wants to bring them to life. i absolutely love how these two characters develop through each other
I really thought I wouldn't like him in the story. He's a lot better than Ruan Mei for me. He just sounds narcissistic but actually he's a good guy
Those two are like sides of the coin, on one hand Dr Ratio appears condescending and strange, but overtime u learn that he is quite emphathatic. On the other side, Ruan Mei appears caring. Before this patch, she gives us gifts in the simulated universe and appeared kind. Even in this patch, she offered the MC cake. But turns out its all manipulation baby~
late reply but,, I feel like ruan mei is mischaracterized by some people sometimes. she's not a terrible person,, she's also not the best. she doesn't really understand how to love, and her past experiences don't help in that department. but despite that, she still cares about her creations (the cat creatures (?)) deep down.
both ratio and ruan mei are morally grey characters, it's perfectly fine to like one more than the other but I wish people stopped making her look like a manipulative heartless person when she really isn't
@@yuiscene preach! She is not manipulative and evil. Same as Ratio Ruan Mei is clearly morally grey. If put simply, she just doesn't understand emotions and boundaries.
@@yuiscene i draw the line on druggin ppl
@@yuiscene Not going for not of that. I don't like either of them, and I like all of the stellaron hunters.
He want everyone be equal intelligence as him (if possible). Not waiting the answers by someone smarter than you but by your own wise choose. It's doesn't matter if it's fail, you learn to improve. Practice makes perfect, failure become lessons.
5:38 They really gave him an exit with this much swag. After seeing this for the first time for myself, how could I not fall for him?
3:54 This line did not need to hit so hard
So in the end... Both Hertha and Ruan Mei never knew Dr Ratio (whether they were pretending not to know him for confidential reasons or Dr. Ratio removed their memories in an unknown menthod). Only us, Screwllum and Asta knew him.
They probably heard about Dr. Ratio from somewhere before, but they personally don’t know him.
@@Zenzen-senpaiHerta may have already heard of him before, but knowing Herta.....
They probably know him by another name
In the end Herta sends a message saying that she doesn't know him so she probably doesn't know him maybe she used something to make people believe that yes like Ruan Mei did
Screwllum calls him Mr. Ratio. I believe the Dr. Ratio they know of, is someone entirely different and is an actual genius.
When two smart kids have different answers 😂
There is an opinion that Geniuses and Madmen have a high IQ. He is BOTH.
I absolutely LOVED Ratio in this quest. The "pompous genius" archetype done right. He's everything Alhaitham wished he could be.
I already expected Alhaitham anad Dr Ratio to be pompous and dont go all buddy-buddy with the MCs. Condescending yet capable.
@@narusas1222exactlyyyy, al haitham just wants to read books and do his own thing
They are not even the same type of character what are on about?? 😂
@_mika-mikazuki_ I'm asking myself the same thing. Al haitham is just a guy who keeps to himself and does the bare minimum that's needed of him. He's not even that arrogant unless you bother him and could care less about the masses
Bro, Alhaitham is a completely different type of character. He himself is definitely wont wish to become like Ratio because it's a pain in the ass for him to deal with people.
Day 365 of waiting for a Screwllum banner.
He is so savage
Wait til dr ratio meets up with welt yang, after entropy & a certain elf
A certain elf? Dan Heng IL? Imaginary Husbandos in one room?! 😳 😳 😳 😳
@@kidsIIIII009bros not even an elf...
I still didn't get though why Screwllum had this reaction when Dr Ratio got in flames, and why he sighed at the end
he was probably reacting to his conversation with ratio. like "i really can't understand this guy" type of sigh.
There’s an imposter among us after all..
Me wanting Screwllum as a playable character.
exactly EXACTLY!!! YOU GET ME
I LOVE DR RATIO!!!!!
I know it was him since the beginning
The attack was real. He did save the researchers, he just teleported them somewhere secluded to perpetuate the chaos
Both Screwllum and Ratio are already aware of the Duke's attack but instead they choose to observe, pretty sure Herta also knows this considering that she didn't bother about the Duke
"There is a disease called "foolishness" that is harder to cure than any ailment."
Uh, well, but... cancer tho? 💀💀
Considering how technologically advanced Honkai is, they probably already have like a cancer vaccine or something
@@promici638Yeah, the more incurable one is probably mara
@@talis2513 So...space cancer?
@@DriedJizzSock In itself, mara doesn't warp your body. The physical stuff seems to be a consequence of the specific way(s) the Abundance chose to gift the Alliance races with immortality. Given that the known effects of those "gifts" themselves act as a cancer vaccine (the alteration of genetic material and transcription that allows a cell to become cancerous just can't happen anymore for no understood reason), it's a case of curing the problem you know about leading to exciting new problems you don't know about.
@@promici638depends where you are. If you’re in belobog then good luck dealing with cancer
Доктор похож характером на Шерлока или вроде того) Он раздражает немного, он заносчив, но это не делает его плохим человеком.
I wonder why Screwllum insists on calling him "Mr" Ratio 😂
Most likely it's a subtle insult.
@@rushalias8511 Or possibly he'd consider Screwllum calling him "Doctor" the insult and Screwllum picked up on that. A key point in the worldview Ratio is expounding to justify his actions is that he at every opportunity states the members of the Genius Society possess intellectual gifts and talent he himself lacks. This is why he considers them unsuitable role models and his own approach of constant hard work and critical thinking superior for this role. (He isn't necessarily saying that they're lazy; rather, that normal people can't even recognize whether a genius is exerting effort or not.) It could naturally follow for him to consider Screwllum calling him "Doctor" the equivalent of humouring a child. (Again, that isn't necessarily so, but Dr. Ratio has a notably negative attitude.)
I know Dr. Ratio put the researchers in a safe realm, but are they back? I only saw Asta returning.
Alot of cut scene wow
I can see him and Alhaitham become best friends. And then both would comment on Kaveh lol.
pretty sure dr ratio would praise kaveh
Kaveh is actually a genius in architectural knowledge,ratio would praise him
honestly i somehow think alhaitham wouldnt like ratio 😭 he is too sassy for alhaitham, who likes peace and quiet.
Ive watched this about 4 times now on repeat, when is hoyo going to release more lore or content of him..
So if i have understood this correctly, there was no annihiliation gang and dr ratio just orcestrated the whole thing to cure idiocy in herta spaceship? Correct me if i am wrong i just can't wrap my head around the ending hahaha
yep that exactly what happened imao. The researchers got L + Ratio'd to cure there idiocy from doing stupid shit and chatting dumb shit.
seems like it. i had to come find a video cuz i got confused at the end and turns out i misunderstood the ending myself lol
I'm pretty sure the attack was going to happen regardless, but ratio used a piece of the phase flame to control it? because he said that the researchers would be space waste? dude idk
- And screwllum specifies that they were 'saved' not that there was no real danger to begin with.
The attack was real, the researchers would have been thrown into space by the Duke had Ratio not used the Phase Flame to change their destination to somewhere safe, he then decided to use the situation to fuck with the Genius Society just because.
Smart people talk.
Soooo off topic but did someone saw a female screellum(screwllita) in new swarm disaster she's sooo thic-
No bro dont laid the robot
lol saw that i was shookt
You mean Screwlitta? After all, Screwllum made a planet after his own name and image.
dr ratio is a curio? Lol
They are sooooo cooool!!