Something to keep in mind is that the gauge on that cluster is probably calibrated for a lead acid battery so it's not going to be accurate for a lithium battery. It'll probably say it's full right up until the point that it dies.
@@FewerOptions-mx7qt correct but the maximum charged voltage of an equivalent lithium battery to a lead acid battery is a higher voltage and the discharge curve is extremely nonlinear so a lithium battery will basically show that it is fully charged on a lead acid battery meter until it's nearly completely discharged.
Im not gonna lie I like the streetbike look i have a extremely fast high power long rane DIY build that I could transfer everything right over or just build an even more High performance build. Your in The Ebike capital of the world My guy wish i were there although I know allot of the guys, If you dont already know look up a guy name DJ Sounds, Hes an Ebike OG that modifies Ebikes like myself and can definitely assist you in upgrading, Good luck Homie even I can help you with some recomendations.You probably dont have to change the hub usually they can handle allot more pwr and allot of times the watt rating is being based on the controller. I believe thats a QS motor that comes on them and they are definitely able to handle more. I have a 12kw "moto" running 34Kw and it can handle more. Nice looking Bike
Yo! Hit me, bro please let me know the spots where I could at least check out the options. I'm in VA, and thank goodness I caught your video. Because I definitely thought it would be cheaper online. And that financing option sounds pretty tempting too.
The top speed factory is 85 Kmp. Which is about 55mph on a full charge. If you get the Fardriver speed controller installed, it can go faster 80mph to 105moh if youvakso have the 5000w motor.
Noise makers on a bike with a hub motor.........Sorry but thats a big ass pass for me LOLs PS Just got my email that the bikes are "Back in Black" at Fly NY and looking forward to purchase with lead acid and then conversion to a 96 volt Molicel pack and FD controller. To me the cost to upgrade is well worth it as the aerodynamics of this bike far surpass anything else on the market near this price-point. Despite my comment, thanks for taking the time to make the review.....not all of us have the same ideas on mods.
Not really worth getting the lithium battery. All rechargeable batterys degrade overtime, it can only be recharged so many times. I have the Lead acid battery in my RZ Ninja, and it lasted onlyva year and a half until I had to replace it. If you charge it 5 times a week, expect the battery to only be good for a year and a half. Now the lead acid battery vists $300 to replace . Imagine replacing the lithium battery every year and a half for 1k. Not only thdt, if you oversleep and charge the lithium battery for too long, it will burst into flames. One of the Fly Ebike lithium Batteries blew up in Queens and burned the store down.
You can try to charge at higher voltage and lower current and don't charge to full capacity only charge to 80% or so and don't drain it completely either.
I'm very curious about fast charging Lithium batteries. The Ali express batteries allow you to monitor the heat and State of Charge while you wait . I'll be upgrading to 100AH battery in early 2024. Easy 130range. My concern is over heating while charging fast, or damaging the lifespan due to fast charging 240v at 80Amps vs 110V at 5Amps
I got the SAME EXACT bike, from kings elec. in NYC. Bro, the service was really soooooooooo baaaaadddddd. Light shipping damage that turned into awhole deal, and front tire developed a HUGE DEATH BUBBLE!!! like the type that blows out. Never got ANY help. ItsREALLY sad too bc trhe bike itself, absolute FIRE IMO. Check ur controller, as some have different VOTOL BLDC controllers. I got the EM-70, and its stuck in 2nd gear, tried SO HARD to get ANYONE to help with programming, and got stuck moding else where. I did even upgrade to the 72v 55aH battery, the LARGEST they even had att the time. we planned to do WAY WAY WAY more buisness. like your detailed content tho, and cant wait to see u grow with that bike. U pry know, but the NYC MOD scene is pry the best state side ATM besides LA.
I'm glad to hear at least my purchase was maybe a one time thing anyway bc everyone else says they where great also. Well, we got the same bike, so you know what the "eco" (D) gear/aka 2? Is like.... Mine is stuck like that with the Votol Em70 it came with. Even in S mode or gear, still drives the same. Idk what to do. I only wanna go like 60-75lol
Yeah I just brought my RZ 2020 345 I got online I did get to let acid battery which you know I couldn't afford the extra $1,100 I only paid 1976 because they had a 10% off sale and delivery was only 200 so it acts itself out but I'm amazed at what you can do to this bike I definitely want to learn how to work on this thing I'm not mechanically inclined but I'm a fast learner
It doesn’t look hard to work on but the acid will be an issue at some point but you can always save for a lithium… but I had to sell mine and trying to get the gas Verizon
Thanks, you answered a lot of my questions. I actually ordered mine directly from China. It was 1/2 the price but, with the lead-acid battery. I couldn't afford the lithium battery at first, I'll have order it later. And my wait time is 3 months.
@@XxWaNt5oM3xX Yeah, the people I dealt with kept me posted right until it shipped. I really need to get that Lithium battery. The bike I have is based on a Ducati.
Got a link? What's top speed? I'm looking for a commuter bike to get to work in the spring and summer only about 20 miles total there and back. I'd need it to go about 50 mph.
I have the same bike but the range is really low only 30mikes in one charge. I wanna remove the battery completely and install a generator where the electricity directly goes to the motor. Is it possible and practical?
Yeah I bought a Z6 with a lead acid battery..at the time I didn't know..but now I'm very knowledgeable about these bikes. Do the Bluetooth speakers also play your music from your phone?
@@Yungbrian831.... Every lipo charger that I own it cuts off when the battery Cells are at 4.2 v each..... Lipo is lighter weight than LipO4 And of course even lighter than lead acid
Mine has the green button on throttle side too . Do I always have to press and and throttle at the same time to go or is there away around that . ? No one talks about that
On the website they don’t have lithium battery version anymore because it only lets me get acid battery only now.Did you get the battery from the website or no.Did you get the battery from somewhere else if yes could you tell me the site.Please thank you.
@@Yungbrian831 The closest one to New Orleans is in Houston so if I go with this, I'm going to just go to Houston. But you should UA-cam ride with the wind e-bikes. I don't know if you've heard of the Emo Zone or the Tao Leo
@@yo-sefakimbey7009 Damn, Jolene poppin in the 504? I bought my Tao off her last year. Ride my bike to work everyday. Only use my car to go grocery shopping. Huge cost savings.
I think you’re friend battery dying, unfortunately it’s a lead problem that’s what leads me here. I bought a cycle of 5 lead acid batteries in the time I had my bike don’t ride it no more cause I’m tired of investing in it, if you purchase this bike I recommend buying lithium minus the negative reviews about them atleast you would enjoy your bike. Had mine since 2018 I love it just wish I was smart bout the decisions I was making. Hope this helps anyone in the future
I've owned 2 electric motorcycles like this, with my second one I bought a 72v lifepo4 battery and was able to get 18 miles to the charge if I'm cooking it but almost 30 if I were to baby it and ride it like an ebike all with the stock controller, I also have a 1-3 hour charge time depending on how many amps I charge it at, the sad truth is these stock batteries are garbage and too heavy for this application so invest in a battery/controller.
@@Yungbrian831 I'm not saying your battery was garbage as they do sell lithium powered bikes but at a higher price range, the average bike people are buying have the lead acid batteries which are garbage in my opinion.
I had 1100 miles and only tuned it but I had to sale it about three weeks ago.. they told us we couldn’t have it in the apartment or charge it.. so I got a gas bike now
@@obeii1805 of course.. just like they have no smoking all through the building but never not once said anything about a e-bike I’m going to take them to court but I still miss my bike
I'm just worried about the Litium battery exploding if I overcharge it. If you dont run the battery to Zero in a days run, if you recharge it to full it will overcharge. Thats $1k going up in flames.
I can’t remember I only had the bike for 5 weeks lol I haven’t had the bike since the beginning of September.. management told everyone in the building we had to get rid of them because it’s a fire hazard
Sorry didn’t see your comment and the cops said you need one but I haven’t been pulled over yet even after running red lights so I guess it depends on the officers
Got a question hope you can answer so rn they only got 72v/55ah lithium model as the strongest one. you said you had the 84v model where can I find one of those cuz i checked the website it’s not there
You can get higher ones.. I seen some go for 90 but they cost a lot but you can always run a two battery setup which is what I wanted but yes mine was 84v the store where I got it said he sells them for 1200
Almost everything electric will have only a single speed because the motor will have exactly the same amount of torque at every speed, from zero to max rpm.
man thats a nice bike. safe riding and much respect
Thank you but I sold it a few weeks ago.. I couldn’t keep it in the apartment so I sold it
Something to keep in mind is that the gauge on that cluster is probably calibrated for a lead acid battery so it's not going to be accurate for a lithium battery. It'll probably say it's full right up until the point that it dies.
It’s right because I was riding one day and everything was good the battery level was going down and as soon as it hit 60 it shut off
Lithium ion cells max charge is 4.2v and can be drained down to 2.5v according to specs. That is per a cell.
@@FewerOptions-mx7qt correct but the maximum charged voltage of an equivalent lithium battery to a lead acid battery is a higher voltage and the discharge curve is extremely nonlinear so a lithium battery will basically show that it is fully charged on a lead acid battery meter until it's nearly completely discharged.
Im not gonna lie I like the streetbike look i have a extremely fast high power long rane DIY build that I could transfer everything right over or just build an even more High performance build. Your in The Ebike capital of the world My guy wish i were there although I know allot of the guys, If you dont already know look up a guy name DJ Sounds, Hes an Ebike OG that modifies Ebikes like myself and can definitely assist you in upgrading, Good luck Homie even I can help you with some recomendations.You probably dont have to change the hub usually they can handle allot more pwr and allot of times the watt rating is being based on the controller. I believe thats a QS motor that comes on them and they are definitely able to handle more. I have a 12kw "moto" running 34Kw and it can handle more. Nice looking Bike
Thanks but I had to sale it.. management said we couldn’t keep them or charge them in the building or apartment
Yo! Hit me, bro please let me know the spots where I could at least check out the options. I'm in VA, and thank goodness I caught your video. Because I definitely thought it would be cheaper online. And that financing option sounds pretty tempting too.
@@darryellove5973 not sure where I’m va but in nyc they are in the Bronx
Good Sunday Morning. Thank you for information.
Good morning and you’re welcome
@howardstone2648 Bikes very dangerous so do they make a brake regen kit to recharge the battery while you ride and brake?
Still cheaper than an onyx rcr I brought ! But the site said tp is 40mph
The top speed factory is 85 Kmp. Which is about 55mph on a full charge. If you get the Fardriver speed controller installed, it can go faster 80mph to 105moh if youvakso have the 5000w motor.
Noise makers on a bike with a hub motor.........Sorry but thats a big ass pass for me LOLs
PS Just got my email that the bikes are "Back in Black" at Fly NY and looking forward to purchase with lead acid and then conversion to a 96 volt Molicel pack and FD controller. To me the cost to upgrade is well worth it as the aerodynamics of this bike far surpass anything else on the market near this price-point.
Despite my comment, thanks for taking the time to make the review.....not all of us have the same ideas on mods.
@@1bottlefed not everyone is a fan of the speakers but it’s pretty loud.. I don’t like how silent it is riding but I understand and you would love it
Not really worth getting the lithium battery. All rechargeable batterys degrade overtime, it can only be recharged so many times. I have the Lead acid battery in my RZ Ninja, and it lasted onlyva year and a half until I had to replace it. If you charge it 5 times a week, expect the battery to only be good for a year and a half. Now the lead acid battery vists $300 to replace . Imagine replacing the lithium battery every year and a half for 1k. Not only thdt, if you oversleep and charge the lithium battery for too long, it will burst into flames. One of the Fly Ebike lithium Batteries blew up in Queens and burned the store down.
You can try to charge at higher voltage and lower current and don't charge to full capacity only charge to 80% or so and don't drain it completely either.
Lithium ion lasted my exes bike for 8 years. Lithium is the way better choice
Where is the best place to buy an RZ if you live in Texas?
Do you need a drivers license to ride this type of e bike motorcycle in nyc?
I got 8 years on my original lithium 72v50ah and still at 73% soc.
Would have spent more on leads by now. And gotten less range per charge.
J1772 adaptor lets you charge that bike at any power station
That’s cool.. but I do t see myself ever running low lol.. I can ride for 4 hours and barely lose anything
I'm very curious about fast charging Lithium batteries. The Ali express batteries allow you to monitor the heat and State of Charge while you wait . I'll be upgrading to 100AH battery in early 2024. Easy 130range.
My concern is over heating while charging fast, or damaging the lifespan due to fast charging 240v at 80Amps vs 110V at 5Amps
@@corneliuswinters7842 hey if u don't mind me asking how much are u paying for one lithium battery ?
Thanks for letting me know
@nazdaprofyt what is the manufacturer for that J1772 ADAPTER! I *NEED* that for my bike.
Good afternoon young man. I just wanted to say thank you for this information. This halp a lot and great 👍 video 👌 👍.
You’re welcome and I’m glad it helped
lower voltage is more range.... Unless your motor has more windings.....
I got 6 1:2 hours before it died.. once it hits 60v no more .. s
Actually accelerating is what hurts the range the most
I been looking for one of these great video 😊
They are good bikes.. I enjoyed mine for the time I had it
I got the SAME EXACT bike, from kings elec. in NYC. Bro, the service was really soooooooooo baaaaadddddd. Light shipping damage that turned into awhole deal, and front tire developed a HUGE DEATH BUBBLE!!! like the type that blows out. Never got ANY help. ItsREALLY sad too bc trhe bike itself, absolute FIRE IMO. Check ur controller, as some have different VOTOL BLDC controllers. I got the EM-70, and its stuck in 2nd gear, tried SO HARD to get ANYONE to help with programming, and got stuck moding else where. I did even upgrade to the 72v 55aH battery, the LARGEST they even had att the time. we planned to do WAY WAY WAY more buisness. like your detailed content tho, and cant wait to see u grow with that bike. U pry know, but the NYC MOD scene is pry the best state side ATM besides LA.
The one I went to did good to me.. he gave me the 84v battery with it
I got my speed upgrade to 75 max on a 3000w hub for $175 but if you’re in the Bronx they will take care of you..
I'm glad to hear at least my purchase was maybe a one time thing anyway bc everyone else says they where great also. Well, we got the same bike, so you know what the "eco" (D) gear/aka 2? Is like.... Mine is stuck like that with the Votol Em70 it came with. Even in S mode or gear, still drives the same. Idk what to do. I only wanna go like 60-75lol
And I'm from buff!!!! Lol. I wish I was closer I need that JET to help me.
@@AerialAcesRC13 man.. I be revving like no tomorrow on this.. it’s jumping
I have one of these bikes !! Good job bro all I did was have my bike painted but I do need that 72 I got the acid ones in mine right now
Didn’t see your comment and Jen you do get the lithium you would enjoy the longer ride
Yeah I just brought my RZ 2020 345 I got online I did get to let acid battery which you know I couldn't afford the extra $1,100 I only paid 1976 because they had a 10% off sale and delivery was only 200 so it acts itself out but I'm amazed at what you can do to this bike I definitely want to learn how to work on this thing I'm not mechanically inclined but I'm a fast learner
It doesn’t look hard to work on but the acid will be an issue at some point but you can always save for a lithium… but I had to sell mine and trying to get the gas Verizon
The delivery was only $200 how many miles away was the delivery
Thanks, you answered a lot of my questions. I actually ordered mine directly from China. It was 1/2 the price but, with the lead-acid battery. I couldn't afford the lithium battery at first, I'll have order it later. And my wait time is 3 months.
You’re welcome and three months is a long time but you’ll enjoy it
Did you get it yet?
@@XxWaNt5oM3xX Yeah, the people I dealt with kept me posted right until it shipped. I really need to get that Lithium battery. The bike I have is based on a Ducati.
Got a link? What's top speed? I'm looking for a commuter bike to get to work in the spring and summer only about 20 miles total there and back. I'd need it to go about 50 mph.
.... I'm gonna wait until I can get a chain drive bike So I can change gears..... I've already got an electric Honda grom And I got it really cheap
I have the same bike but the range is really low only 30mikes in one charge. I wanna remove the battery completely and install a generator where the electricity directly goes to the motor. Is it possible and practical?
I wouldn’t know.. but you can try to ask a professional
You’d be better off replacing the lead acid to lipo batteries of similar capacity. Will be lighter and more range. It’s not practical any other way.
Yeah I bought a Z6 with a lead acid battery..at the time I didn't know..but now I'm very knowledgeable about these bikes. Do the Bluetooth speakers also play your music from your phone?
Lead should be illegal lol and it do.. it’s pretty loud to be honest
Yeah the RZ Ninja plays the music from your phone. Just pair it with Bluetooth .
Great Video about the Bike! I have the same bike, appreciate the info! How can I get in contact with you, I have a few more questions to ask you?
I have a Instagram shoot me a message it’s sincere10001
I've never seen a lithium charger that didn't cut off automatically... Lithium batteries are half the weight you're going to get double the range
What do you mean??
@@Yungbrian831.... Every lipo charger that I own it cuts off when the battery Cells are at 4.2 v each..... Lipo is lighter weight than LipO4 And of course even lighter than lead acid
Nice! Where did you get the Bluetooth exhaust? I Can’t find it
Happy Holidays 🎉
I got it from the store I bought the bike from
Bro with all that money u are going to spend...get a 600 CBR...😂
Takes me 8 hours to charge full my lead acid.
I never had my battery low before so it take a hour or so
Also if u bought a lithium u save a lot of weight
@@albertdelbosco9686 yup and I’m about to add a second one in two weeks.. I need more battery life
I just put gas in my bike and keep going 😂
Dope bike, I’m thinking about copping one. I’m in nyc too, do you need registration or insurance?
DMV said you do but they don’t bother me
U must be in Brooklyn queen or the bx
It is a 72v battery not 84v. A 72v battery fully charged is 84v. Lol
Thanks for letting me know
Did you have to pay the sales tax all over again to get license plates?
I never got any plates lol
Most likely you would have to pay taxes lol
Wassup bro I got a bike also where you ride at
@@xugarcubecapers1647 lol I had to get rid of it because I wasn’t allowed to to keep it in the apartment I bought a new one but it got stolen
Excellent job 👍🏾
Thank you
lithium not offered on site
Playing with the remote for the alarm and it happen do you know how I can fix it
Mine has the green button on throttle side too . Do I always have to press and and throttle at the same time to go or is there away around that . ? No one talks about that
I never used it lol so I wouldn’t know
On the website they don’t have lithium battery version anymore because it only lets me get acid battery only now.Did you get the battery from the website or no.Did you get the battery from somewhere else if yes could you tell me the site.Please thank you.
In nyc they have stores that sell them with the bike
Nah these haven't reached the South in New Orleans yet
It’s good for everyday travels lol and you can order them but it’s more money
@@Yungbrian831 The closest one to New Orleans is in Houston so if I go with this, I'm going to just go to Houston. But you should UA-cam ride with the wind e-bikes. I don't know if you've heard of the Emo Zone or the Tao Leo
@@yo-sefakimbey7009 Damn, Jolene poppin in the 504? I bought my Tao off her last year. Ride my bike to work everyday. Only use my car to go grocery shopping. Huge cost savings.
Did you every take the speed limiter off? If so what speed u reach
The store where I bought it from did it and the most was 65.. here in nyc it’s a lot of pot holes and going over them made the bike feel cheap
You can get a way cheaper battery from China tho
cheap isn't always better lol
I think you’re friend battery dying, unfortunately it’s a lead problem that’s what leads me here. I bought a cycle of 5 lead acid batteries in the time I had my bike don’t ride it no more cause I’m tired of investing in it, if you purchase this bike I recommend buying lithium minus the negative reviews about them atleast you would enjoy your bike. Had mine since 2018 I love it just wish I was smart bout the decisions I was making. Hope this helps anyone in the future
He had the lead lol
I've owned 2 electric motorcycles like this, with my second one I bought a 72v lifepo4 battery and was able to get 18 miles to the charge if I'm cooking it but almost 30 if I were to baby it and ride it like an ebike all with the stock controller, I also have a 1-3 hour charge time depending on how many amps I charge it at, the sad truth is these stock batteries are garbage and too heavy for this application so invest in a battery/controller.
@@KrisThatsit I don’t know what kind I had but it was sure good to me
@@Yungbrian831 I'm not saying your battery was garbage as they do sell lithium powered bikes but at a higher price range, the average bike people are buying have the lead acid batteries which are garbage in my opinion.
@@KrisThatsit I know what you meant.. I wasn’t saying it like that.. but I try to tell people do waste they time with lead
I bought my motorcycle 10000w hub motor 72v 80 ah lithium under 4000 dollars shipped to my door
sounds good but sadly I sold mine today
How many miles have you ridden? Any problems? Anything you did not like that was not in the video? Thanks!
I had 1100 miles and only tuned it but I had to sale it about three weeks ago.. they told us we couldn’t have it in the apartment or charge it.. so I got a gas bike now
I guess that’s cuz all the fires from cheap batteries.. sad
@@obeii1805 my battery is 1200 and I keep the bike in the open in a cool area and never over charge it
@@Yungbrian831 yea but landlords don’t know all they know is what the news say
@@obeii1805 of course.. just like they have no smoking all through the building but never not once said anything about a e-bike I’m going to take them to court but I still miss my bike
I'm just worried about the Litium battery exploding if I overcharge it. If you dont run the battery to
Zero in a days run, if you recharge it to full it will overcharge. Thats $1k going up in flames.
I had mine in the living room cool and I overcharged it a few times but nothing never happen
I have one and it just stop charging up I turn key and lights come on for a second and die right down and is it hard to install the 72 lithium battery
I don’t work on them but maybe your battery is no good
Great video! Do you need a license to ride it? Minnesota sucks! Here, you almost need a license just to walk down the street! Lol
Every state might be different but I haven’t gotten pulled over yet
@@Yungbrian831 Damn! I gotta move! Lmao. I appreciate the info.
@@Tommy_Irish I didn’t care.. I figure if they take it I just go get it back..
Yumgbrian do you have a license or nah
@@mikeyyt737 you do.. I asked an officer and the dmv but the cops don’t bother you for some reason
Do you need a motorcycle license for this?
Officers said a regular license but check because every state is different
Hi do you know the rear swingarm dropout width?
I don’t
Hey guys i got this bike what does the d/R switch on left handle bar control?
I can’t remember I only had the bike for 5 weeks lol I haven’t had the bike since the beginning of September.. management told everyone in the building we had to get rid of them because it’s a fire hazard
Hey man, love the bike. Could you tell me where you got the speakers that look like exhaust?
Thanks and I bought it from the store I got the bike from
Hey I got one just like it but mine the reverse button started running the bike slow the throttle won't work iwas
im not sure but tr calling one of the e bike stores And ask
Whats the name's of some of the other places in NY that sale them
I don’t know the name of the stores but they are everywhere
@@Yungbrian831 next time you come across any other than (flyebikes) let me know bro enjoy your videos bout to subscribe now 💪🏿💯
Yo bike🔥🔥🔥👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Thanks but I sold it
Bro take that goofy exhaust off, what is you doing?? Great video otherwise,
Nah.. lol riding without just weird but to be honest I had to get rid of the bike due to management back in September of last year
I’m 5’1 would I be able to get on this bike?
That I wouldn’t know.. I’m 5’10 so it’s easy.. but I seen short people ride motorcycles in general
You need a motorcycle license for that or nah
Sorry didn’t see your comment and the cops said you need one but I haven’t been pulled over yet even after running red lights so I guess it depends on the officers
no its less than 4,000 watts...but you need insurance for moped $5 month
Nice bike
Thank you
How can u hit 4 gear ??
I dont think it’s a 4th
Thank u !
Y bad 2023 RZ
Got a question hope you can answer so rn they only got 72v/55ah lithium model as the strongest one. you said you had the 84v model where can I find one of those cuz i checked the website it’s not there
You can get higher ones.. I seen some go for 90 but they cost a lot but you can always run a two battery setup which is what I wanted but yes mine was 84v the store where I got it said he sells them for 1200
@@Yungbrian831 put me on wit that store cuz u made sum good points I want a bike that’s gon last long feel me. You got a link to the bike you got?
is it automatic or manual?
Auto
Almost everything electric will have only a single speed because the motor will have exactly the same amount of torque at every speed, from zero to max rpm.
How do you take the limiter off?
I don’t know.. the store where I bought it did it for $175