Autel IM608 XP400 | How to do All Keys Lost on 2018 Range Rover | Training 2020
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- Hey Autel Nation!
This is Curtis, your Diagnostic Consultant, with another great case study on how to do an all keys loss scenario on a 2018 Range Rover with the IM608.
As you may or may not have known, there will be times where you cannot do Key coding through the OBD port on the vehicle. Sometimes you have to take out a module in order to execute the key coding procedure. Many people are afraid to do these types of procedures mainly because there is no one there to walk them through the process.
My goal in this presentation is to share with you how anyone can do these high-value key coding procedures even though they have limited experience.
If you are looking to purchase an IM608 and would like me to consult you directly and offer the training that you have seen on this video, go to my website www.auteltech.co.za and book a diagnostic tool consultation
thank you!
-Curtis Hardin
Your diagnostic consultant.
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You are very talented and give great energy. The quality of your videos is top notch. You are an asset to Autel. I hope you and your family are blessed.
Thanks Raphael, very kind words . This motivates me to do more content. Thanks
Did a 2017 Land Rover evoque all key lost follow instructions and it works like a charm thanks Curtis for the video and your instructions
You guy's making life really easy thank you so so much for all your times and advice
Thank you I've been watching the videos for years finally settled on the im608 since it's can do ECU programming and key programming and I can send my customers diagnostic reports
I’m Halifax from Ghana and really like to learn more from you and thank you for your every single teaching I really enjoy learning
By far one of the most professional and concentrate tech training regarding Autel IM, ofcourse in these case dedicated to Range Rover. You are the man !
Thanks Stefan for the kind words
@@AutelConsultancy hi
Autel 508 can do it?
@@KostYanuch33 you need the xp400 Pro
@@AutelConsultancy bro I'm looking for your number
Thank you for your time. Very helpful.
You are 100 times more informative over that Autel sales guy. 🤦🏻♂️. Thanks for making this. Just did it on RR supercharged.
Thanks for the compliment. This was the reason why I started my consultancy. I would hear this 100 times . Take Care!
After watching this video, now I feel i can make this range rover key 😅
Thank you very much for your time. Very helpful.....
Just Great Video Thanks for what your doing!!
Nice video on kvm . Vvdi prog n vvdi2 been same thing for years tho, nice to know im608 xp400pro can do with easy keep videos coming
Good job , you explain it very nice, if you do any on hands training on the future please let me know
Thank you for these videos , extremely well explained
Great video man thank you!
Hopefully in the next couple months, ill be able to get the im608. I dont know of anybody else in my area that offers programming of modules or any locksmiths that program mercedes or higher end keys. Thanks for the video. Great instruction.
Excellent presentation with easy to follow instructions thank you. Just subscribed and thumbs up, thank you for this.
My pleasure Im glad it helped you out!
As always golden knowledge
Great video, thank you very much
Good stuff Curtis! make alot of videos on the autel ultra
Brother many thanks from your video
Super presentation 👌
Great training
Have you thought of doing a segment on replacing the KVM, as these are a real challenge on these machines
Great video thanks for your input Sir, Stay safe.
Thanks, will do! Well get through this!
Today I purchased autel 508 need some support from you, please make more videos thanks from India ♥️
Excellent
I believe it is the APA109 harness on the im608Pro, same number of wires with the same labels on them!
Superb information 👍❤️
this was awesome respect t
Great to know!
Good explanation
Wonderful
Very interesting
superb tool very very good assam
Thx you so much
I love your videos
Thanks my friend. I appreciate the kinds words
Nice one bro thanks
Any time!
Thanks for the video.
Update about the key cloning option would be helpful.
Hi Curtis thanks for the great work. Can I use for programming used key or only tne new one?
Good job
Thanks. Im glad you enjoyed
hi great video- if i screw the kvm module can i redo the same procedure with the data form original kvm on the new one
I did a 2016 Jaguar XE last week. You need to be careful when you desolder the crystal & capacitor. It's hard to do as the solder used by the manufacturer is so strong/hard, it took me a long time to desolder it and I was worried that I might damage the crystal. I managed to finish the job two days later. At first I hooked up my programmer (XP400) and read the Flash & Eeprom file. When I went to add the key, the programmer was NOT reading the key (faulty XP400). I managed to get a second unit (XP400 pro). This unit could read and add the key fine, BUT could not write the files back onto the RFA (faulty XP400 pro). So I had to use one to do the keys and the other to write the files. That's how lucky I am boys and girls. This was my first time doing a Jaguar/Range Rover through the RFA so you can all imagine my frustration. Good luck with your attempt.
hay brother i am happy for you that booked such a risk this is life man some time you need to use you gut to get what need it.
well Done an I've just brought the XP400 Pro but still im not going to take that risk unless its not really need it.
@@dashtyatg1824 Yes, I took the risk and with lots of difficulties I managed to do the job at the end. You have to take risks in life. I now have another experience on my shoulders lol.
How did you know what frequency to use ? I will do 1 tomorrow and I am a bit scared 😅
@@edgardavidcespedescamargo6115 Frequency depends where the car is. USA+Japan=315Mhz. Europe 344Mhz,
@@yiannakosautomotivekeys2380 433Mhz I think ;-)
I can't get enough watching this videos over and over. But if it's not secured what's could be the different steps?
hello good video!!! Can you also learn a used (from another vehicle) key fob on this car?
This is a great video.... I’ve had a few customers ask me to do some land rovers but was afraid to do them. You have to take the KVM out anytime you want to just add a key?
I really don't know why Curtis not answear many questions, is like he picking from questions and some answear some not.... Maybe he not kmow?
So i answear you, yes , you always have to "jailbreak" these modules, the factory protection only this way can break through!
It would be helpful if Autel had info available like this so we can be prepaired before getting on scene. As locksmiths we are called out to make keys on site at the time of the call. Knowing that you need to solder on the board and remove components would help in advance. Your videos are very helpful
I haven't tried yet but it seems I could send the data as a text since the tool has a text feature. I will reply again after trying.
Really! Like with this car you should put the computer on the bench and soldering required! 🙄
How do you know what frequency to use ?
The Autel didn’t tell in any steps the frequency of the key 315MHz or 433mhz?
Thank you great video
How will i "seperate myself from the pack" when your exposing a vehicles security breach and sharing it with the general public. I understand this wont stop and its mainly used to benefit your sales and business, i get it. Your placing tradd secrets for all to see along with the many others, just to sale products and services. Showing step by step instruction to the general public, this is why the dealer tool requires a subcription and security measures. Very thoughtful my guy.
Hi Ultra. Thanks for your reply and its a great question. I think this is a limiting belief . If you want to separate yourself from the pack you just need to learn adapt and learn valuable skillsets. Thats what I did. Years ago when I first started , my biggest competition was amazon. So I had to think to my self " What can I do to bring more value to my client" Selling the tool is what everyone else was doing. So what I had to do is learn everything I can about my product so I can train my clients and help them learn skills they would have never learned if they purchase online. There is enough people on the earth so everyone can work and make money .. Thats just my opinion
I think when he said ‘ separate yourself from the pack’ he meant not to be afraid of doing that specific procedure and move on! Don’t pass it on!
trade secrets lol what about those who taught you lol ? what makes you better than everyone? theirs a saying where i come from: "Dont hate, compete and innovate"
Hola gracias por la información quisiera saber si cuando se acabe la actualización de 1 año de autel im608 pro seguiré haciendo programaciónes que Requieran conexión a internet como pin code y programación en BMW y Mercedes Benz que hay que conectarse a internet gracias excelente trabajo
Please post links to where we can buy the crystal quarts capacitors please. The correct ones for these boards
Nice
Thanks!
Great video. Unfortunately I've had zero luck with a locked mc9s12xet256 chip in a kvm.
I'll go through my documentation to see if i missed anything, but as of yet, no dice.
Thanks for sharing this 👍
That's because it doesn't work.... yet. As im sure you can see Curtis is literally just reeling off the instructions on the tool, he has never even seen let alone tried to work on a KVM. I wont judge him he is trying to sell the product and his 'consultancy' service. A bit like me deciding to start selling Stethoscopes and become a consultant to doctors. Give me a shout if you wan't to know what tools actually work on these
Hey Speed, Question for you. How do you know with 100 percent certanty what I have or have not worked on?
Good question Curtis, so tell us with 100% honesty that you have. And I will tell you with 100% certainty this tool won't do 2018 KVM. Also pretty misleading telling guys 'a new KVM is only $200' forgot to add the one of 2 methods of programming 1- Have the vehicle recovered to the dealer, wait until the dealer can do the work (not very quickly as most are currently closed), pay the dealers fee, put the customer in a car hire as you have messed up by not knowing what you are doing. Turns that 'highly profitable' into a massive loss, not only in the short term but reputation is long term.
2- Sign up to Topix, intall Pathfinder, buy JLR DOIP equipment, apply for JLR security accreditation. Boom and in 6 months you can have that module sorted.
@@SpeedTweaks HI Speed. Can you answer this question " he has never even seen let alone tried to work on a KVM" " How do you now this.
Aww bless you and your poor redirect. How about I re word it to make you feel less insecure. Add to the beginning of said sentence 'In my honest opinion'. Now your childish point has been put to rest how about the factual questions regarding the tools capabilities and and your underplaying of the damage and costs involved when people mess up due to your poor advice?
I added an XP400 to my IM508 last year to add some European Vehicle key programming capability. My XP400 is now superseded by the XP400 Pro. Is there a comprehensive list of the year, make and model cars that have key chips that the older XP400 is not able to read or do, so I can weed out these cars , and save myself wasted attempts?
When I go to function viewer to check capability by make ake , year and model vehicle, it has symbols denoting if it all or part can be done via OBD or by bench mode, but does not specify if an internet connection to Autel's server will be required, and whether or not the XP 400 or XP400 Pro be required.
Thanks for the video! I don’t work on too many rovers but just knowing the hookup is definitely helpful! I have t used by 608 to program amy keys yet... Will it work on 2018 Chevy and ford trucks?
If you wanted to work on us cars you could have spent less with a different programming tool
Great video can you please do a all keys lost on BMW fem systems please 🙏
Thats a good idea! Ill see what I can do :)
When you say you need the APA 106 and the APA109, is it either or? i.e. one or the other or you need both? I only have the APA109 I’m my arsenal. TIA. P.S. I’m gutted I didn’t know you even existed when I purchased mine, if I did I would of without doubt bought from you. Keep the tutorials coming please they are great.
It seems you are getting a lot of likes and subscribes. I have a tool but I will be buying another just so I can get it from you.
That damage can cause the xp400 an obd2, as you can tell if an xp400 is damaged
What a great video !!!! I just have one question: what about bcm data ?? I think you need to write it too becuase some day you gonna need emergence starts, is that correct ??
thats a good point...how do you get emergency start? its just a matter of time
Great video, great job Curtis.
One Question : In the video, you are telling people that they can "print" the "how to instructions" from the scanner.
I treid myself to do so, here it comes!
WHY can't you print or save the full instructions as a PDF file, I haven't find this possibility, the only possibility that I have found is that you can print as a Screenshot of what you se at the moment.
So you have to print several pictures, this is not very genius.
I would be very grateful if you could tell me have save or print the full instructions in one session 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
great job, it turns me off in buying a Range Rover too complicated
Love it! Thank you so much. Can i ask? Would these steps be the same or similar using an IM1 programmer?
Possibly but my gut is telling me that tool might be limited in its coverage
Thank you much for your info, much needed. Hopefully you can answer 1 more question for me that would be of great value and be very useful to know. Can I program a key fob to a 2011 bmw 528i if I have 1 working key without having to do it on bench? Like would I be able to get the ISN number from that 1 key that works already through obd?
Hi, can I overwrite key position 1 and 2 with the new keys or delete these at all as they are lost?
Take the RFA module out and have the customer flat bed the vehicle to the end of the Land Rover dealer service lot after hours.
Try to do this unsoldering, reading , writing, and arithmetic. You fail in Solder and Gamora class and Land Rover won't sell you a new security RFA module without an LSID. You tell them the vehicle is parked in their lot ready for Freddie with the IDS, LOL
Do we need to disconnect the battery of the car before removing the kvm ?
Hi Justin, once again thanks for this great video. Quick question, once you've read and write data back on the MCU and key programmed. Then in the future can you programme another key without the need of removing RFA/KVM again. Or can you just add key like the BMW F series. BMW F series once you've jail break the FEM, i believe you can just add key anytime without the need to remove the FEM. Thanks Justin.
Usually just adding a key doesn't require doing the all keys lost procedure. Its alot easier to do via obd. Belive it or not ive only done all keys lost on these vehicles so I would need to check with my developer be sure
hey waht happens when the car alarm activate and the kvm gets locked can the key still be made
hi how are things. I have a problem with land Rover Discovery sport 2016 a client brought it to me to make a key copy. I removed the kvm and read it with autel in safe mode and did the same procedure as always, but this time something happened and the car only works with emergency start.
Will the 508 do this as well? Can u distinguish what the 508 can't do?
Holly snap. Just like that
I have a range rover sport 2016 akl situation what i do for program a new key the system is lock i hav
You said that vehicle can have only 2 keys, and we adding third, do we need to delete the lost one?
Thank so much master 👍.
When is on sale the new AUTEL Scan tool the Ultra.?
Not sure yet, I asked yesterday and still no confirmation.
@@AutelConsultancy tanks so much master
July 1
mate, what about two keys mentioned in video?
You have a link where I can buy this machine autel im608 thanks
Thumbs up! Thanks for the video. I havent looked on my 608 yet but I have a 2004 chrysler crossfire that I will need to do in the next couple weeks after it gets towed to me and was wondering if the 608 will do it? I understand its a MB vehicle rebadged but im having problems just finding keys for it as FCA says they are discontinued. Can I use the MB keys?
Hi VSP, I dont think the im608 will cover that vehicle unfortunately. You might need to send it to the dealer for the key coding. Thanks
For that chysler crossfire your going to have to remove eis and read mcu then you can use tango or tmpro 2 or vvdi2 and you will be able to do make transponder.... but you will not be able to generate remote.... you are going to have to remove mcu and read it with a programmer.... good luck... it's an interesting job. ... process is similar to video I have posted on my channel that I make key for w906 sprinter eis.
Question! Can IP616 do this kind of programming with the XP400?
Where can I buy a crystal quartz capacitor? I damaged one? Would radio shack carry these?
Hi Just bought the im608 will the Autel program the new KVM /RFA box and then new keys ?kind regards Steve HSD Electrics
Its always best to read eeprom first when working with secured Freescale processors... because sometimes you can corrupt data.. always remember the eeprom information is vehicle specific immo information and vin information... dflash is pretty much generic across similar vehicles... but eeprom is vehicle specific .... these programmers run crack routines that can sometimes corrupt information.... I'd rather get a good eeprom read and take my chances on the dflash.... but with this specific 2018 and up im608 will not work at all... maybe if the engineers you say that you are in contact with can change the software to emulate the key kind of like with Toyota smart key.. but actually emulate with an original looking key not the apb112 then you can say they have a working process for these models...
Hi my friend. Thanks for your knowledge. I spoke with the engineers and im trying to get a hold of the customers who did the 2018 ( and some 2019) so far. In my experience if I give a vin number to an engineer and they confirm if the function is on the tool ..99 percent of the time works. ( this is my experience) In the even it doenst work they usally send the client a patch to fix the issue .. Or they will tell me if there componant is not compadible. He said and I quote " But I can assure you that 15-18(sometimes 2019) can be done through dump mode and it works. " He also mentioned " We support FK72-XX and HPLA-XX types write key via dump with LandRover and Jaguar and have a lot of successful cases. Because it is an EEPROM job, if unsuccessful, normally the operation problems.
For JPLA-RFA 2019, some vehicle use JPLA-RFA , needs to replace to chip to do the key programming. But some still use HPLA-XX which we also support. " I know the suppliers who sell the autel machines dont have a data logging service ... But if they did you can get to the bottom of the issue and fix it. Thats the process I use for my clients. Keep posting your content!
@@AutelConsultancy hey these people at
(diagnostic-key.pl) there process is thru OBD no need to remove any modules from vehicle. There process reads data by OBD and programs an emulated original looking key.... Its very expensive there setup but it is very basic... Maybe engineers can look into it and adapt the process into IM608.. Even if Autel releases a paid version of this process I'm pretty sure any serious technicians like myself would not mind paying additional fees to be able to do like this... Its practically a ten minute job with this hardware software package....If you go to there website there is a video on the process.... And if works on 2020 rover jaguar even with active alarm.... Its verified working on forums I am member of.... Take some time and look into it...Thanks
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Please can the im508 program or add key to Range Rover 2018???
How do you know what frequency to use , 315 mhz or 434 mhz ? Does it say in any part of the module like cas in bmw ? Or Autel will tell you what to use? You are the best
Usually the autel has an option that will tell you the frequency of that key type. This way you will know what frequency to use
@@AutelConsultancy at the beginning of the video you said ‘ take 2 keys with you I’ll explain later why’ ,,, sorry teacher I am still confused why? Probably for frequency ? If by mistake I put in xp400 wrong frequency ,,,, will I have problem or it just won’t program … thank you for your answer,,, if I get this job done I will give you back {{ very scared though}}}
I use my autel im608pro2 to add keys to cars, I bought two keys from my usual key provider and I just normally code them to the car that I by them for but I am trying to code a key to a 2024 range rover sports, the keys are the same frequency and style but when it ask me to hold the key in had then to press any button it never read the kesy, I bought 2 more keys and it is the same results, i then decided to read the keys in the programer and I notice the keys say lock on them even tho they are brand new, how do I unlock the keys, I know how to do it with bmw keys and benz key but I don't see any option for range rover so I am wondering if I need to plug on to the car before I can do so? As for bmw and benz, you don't have to be plugged on to a car to unlock the key, so that's the reason I am asking to see if I can get some answers?
The iIM608 Pro does not come with "apa106". It has "apa107" "apa108", and "apa109" same thing?
autel 508 without xp400 support range rover smart key 2018
for some reason the manual only shows MC9s 12 XEQ 384, but I have HPLA -XET 256, and how can I connect to it?
Thank u very much. Great video. Any idea when apb113_v1 adapter will release?
First time trying to print an Operating Guide. My IM608 only has one option under the print dropdown 'Print this page'. I cannot figure out a way to print the entire operating guide?
Thanks
Is it possible with IM 508?
Best regards
Tô com uma 2017 modelo td6 hs7 e o módulo não se encontra nesse lugar
Hello, i can create key for Range Rover Sport 2021 ?
So if you’ve gotta take stuff out and start soldering small connections, would it just not be cheaper for the customer to get it made at the dealership? Compared to all the time you have to invest.?
I guess it depend on your location. Most dealers are extremely expensive . Especially on Euro vehicles. What I can tell you if your able to to do this procedure ( in terms of soldering) it will open up alot of opportunities for you as there are alot of problems that your able to solve that you can charge a premium
It's very great video sir, buh I want to have your contact. I'm unable to get this done with my im608
Did I miss the reason for the 2nd fob?
2016 Evoque. All keys lost. Hatch doesn't open with exterior or interior button. Can't take carpet off to get to RFA without opening rear hatch. Looks like it probably has electronic (no cable) latch so even if we hack into the hatch from inside I don't think we could open it. Anyone find a solution for this situation?
GOOD VIDEO WHY NOT EXPLAIN WHEN IS 2 KEY THAT WE NEED TO ADD AT THESAME TIME FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THE FIRST KEY FILLE TO WRITE THESECOND KEY thanks and MORE IMPROVEMENT
I also want to buy the tool and need your assistance
Hie bro its Arnold i use to work by All Car Electric
IM 508+XP400PRO can DO THIS program
Hi there. Ready to buy a scanner, just not sure which one, we starting to work on cars, mechanic. But also need for programming keys. Thanks in advance for any help.
HI Gustavo.. If you want to get the right tool strategy and also want to get results with the tool I recommend... Go to www.auteltech.co.za and book a diagnostic tool consultation. Ill take the time to learn about your business and give you a tool strategy. Hope this helps