So frustrating.. It's been proven in court that emulation is perfectly legal, and so by extension videos of emulation should be considered fair use But UA-cam has clauses that supercede their obligation to maintain fair use, and can remove a video for any reason they want So if Nintendo says it's a harmful video which shows people "how" to emulate their games - it just gets taken down no questions asked And they just get away with it It's just like this thing with Palworld The Patent that Nintendo is filing on is for a "3d throwing a pokeball" mechanic, and they are citing Legends: Arceus with that Patent (Released Jan 2022) And while it is true that Palworld was developed at the exact same time - (Late Jan 2022) That same developer had a "3d throwing a pokeball" mechanic in their previous game, Craftopia (Released Sept 2020) They just didn't file a patent for that mechanic, partially because they don't own it either tbh It easily could be argued that they based it on the battlepets system from World of Warcraft, which had a "3D throwing a pokeball" mechanic in it as early as Sept 2012 - the release date of Mists of Pandaria -PREDATING this patent and it's subsequent legal precedent by almost 10 years? So at this point three separate development teams have come up with this mechanic, and the team which came up with it LAST is now claiming ownership... In American Court, legal precedent here would be that none have the right to patent this mechanic any more than you should be able to patent jumping or using WASD Even though, like Palworld, Battlepets was a blatant carbon copy of Pokemon, Activision-Blizzard probably has the rights to the first use of that mechanic, because they were the first to bring it to 3D However, for that to happen, Activision-Blizzard and Microsoft would have to take the fight to Nintendo to argue those rights exist Microsoft is too scared of Big Nintendo to do that, too worried about the PR And they should, because Nintendo - has NEVER - lost a court case that they have initiated in Japanese Circuit Court So, they're wrong.. but they're Nintendo so they get away with it
I didn't talk too much about Palworld because I can't compete with big creators talking about popular things unless I come at it a different angle. Like I did with this video! But this comment has a lot of good insight on the case and why it's so annoying. 🥲
most of the video showing how to do emulation was also showing game play of Nintendo games while doing it and why do people keep thinking they are suing over the ball thing no one has any idea what they are getting sued over not even pocket pair
@jsmith3946 Most of the classic game footage is from classic videos on YT not emulated, and I put the sources about the Palworld lawsuit on screen when I'm talking about it. People know it's just Pocket Pair can't talk about it.
@@jsmith3946cause it’s the only thing could even attempt to sue them over in patent court besides the mounts changing based on terrain patent and no one thinks they have a leg to stand on with the mount one period
this is why Discord is a viable option. but i'm going the Sloth's approach and not bother with it when it comes to still profitable games (i just wanna play the Dr. Brain games again, and that hasn't been on sale in DECADES).
An interaction between some OCs of mine says all that needs to be said. Velociraptor: So your power is to transform into video game characters? Game Changer: Yep. Velociraptor: Can you turn into Luigi? Game Changer: I could, but I don't want to be sued by Nintendo.
The lack of fair use laws in Japan is cultural, which is also why the Japanese public is almost entirely on Nintendo's side. What we call "fair use" is, to the Japanese, insulting to the original creator. And most of the world's copyright systems are broken for the same reason: corporations buying out governments and changing the laws to favor them.
@LordSiravant This is ironic considering how many anime and media are based on preexisting ideas. Like DragonBall using journey to the West and Power Rangers.
As a person who loved Mario games on my SNES all the way over to Switch, Seeing them throw out these lawsuits makes me want them to loose every lawsuit they make on another person. How long do I want them to loose? Until the company doesn’t exist anymore.
I've been saying for years that the old blood of Nintendo has to cycle out and let a new generation take over in terms of their legal team. Sega's been embracing rom hacks and fan games of Sonic for years and that's strengthened the brand more than one could believe
Raised in the 90s, the Palworld lawsuit reminded me of how bad they've been for years. I agree, cycle it out, but I think sega chilled out when they officially lost, and then they stopped caring. Lol
@@ScooterMcgavunTV did you see video "The most expensive Nintendo lawsuit"? It's very interesting why Japan sees Nintendo as saviors while west looks at them as at demons. I'm wondering what's really behind Pocketpair doors.
Theres no way nintendo can win that monster collector lawsuit and theres one huge reason: Digimon. Even if they win against Palworld, Japan wont give them a patent because Digimon has existed for almost as long as Pokémon has.
Its ironic that Nintendo was the savior of the videogame crash in the 80s, yet they are on the same path to cause it in the current times, because there will eventually come a point where people are completely done with their BS, and people will exclusively just pirate their games out of spite for all they have done to the emulation scene, because while its true that some people emulate to pirate, the majority of people are also those that just like having access to mods to improve their game experience, like most of the people that played Breath of the Wild and modded the heck out of it, or those that add a bunch of crazy characters and stuff into Smash.
Case in point: Nintendo was never going to make Super Mario Maker, but they saw a fan project doing the same thing was getting popular, and got it shut down so they could make bank copying them
Surprisingly nintendo does this a lot. Croc was a yoshi game that nintendo cancelled and fired everyone for. So they used that engine to make croc and salvage it. Nintendo decided to announce at the same time mario 64 which was pretty much the same game they fired them over and yes, they tried to silence them at the expo. Now pokemon leaks showed an unreleased pokemon game called "Rodeo" which you ride a pokemon and even attack while riding them. Sounds like palworld right? I can bet you that's why they sued them. They sue palworld so THEY can release a similar game, makes sense since they done it in the past and never learn.
@@megaman37456 that's a different thing than the one I'm talking about. There was a fanwork that was basically the exact same thing as Super Mario Maker but it came out first.
I can't believe this quality is underappreciated, we need more people to see this! Also, I hate Nintendo for banning mods, fan games, emulates, goddamnit, if you can't preserve your own old games, at least let us pirate it! And it's not just Nintendo who does this, I hate companies with "we don't need it, but if you try to play it we ban it" mindset
@@x149tecorrection they have been fucking with old emulators they took down a giga fuckton of gamecube roms just a year ago Gamecube is 23 years old it is old enough to drink so dont say its current gen its a misconception
@@x149te Nintendo might be planning on going after the Wii/Gamecube emulator Dolphin. In 2023 Nintendo sent Valve a cease and desist for hosting Dolphin emulator on Steam and in part of it Nintendo asked Valve to keep any evidence of Dolphin being hosted on Steam.
@RegularHeptagon wrong. Valve asked Nintendo what they think about Dolphin on Steam. They answered "we don't like it". Valve then disapproved Dolphin release. That's it. No official docs from Nintendo. That's why Dolphin still available on their site.
@Spade948 missed opportunity on my part i remember them losing to Block Buster and Game Genie but totally didn't know they sued them too and lost. I was wondering how they got away with making those videos. Lol
Gonna love how Nintendo evolved from being a company that cared about the gaming industry to a company that owns the gaming industry. If everyone in the world banned together and stopped buying Nintendo products for one year then that could send a message. Only problem is I love Pokemon cards so wouldn’t exactly be easy to shut down the multi million corporation
renting Super Nintendo games was big in our family, i'd always be playing with my dad and/or brother. we'd rent from Blockbuster all the time up until the place closed down and whatever games we had at the time we kept them. i still have a game (Out of this World) with a rented tape on it.
See!? This is what I’m talking about! They are afraid of us. They are afraid of us doing better game and fan game because they can’t do better. I don’t hate Nintendo games. I just hate the company doing all this crap
I find it so annoying that people dont stop buying Nintendo products when stuff like this keeps happening. When Nintendo keeps harming its fans and attempting to bury its supposed competitors with the most disgusting and down right miserable ways. Nintendo needs to be taught a lesson, they cant keep getting away with this sh##.
Same! I really haven't played anything since BOTW and some of it is based on the switches performance the other is their business practices. Hopefully they lose some more Lawsuits and get the reality check they need.
The reason why it's so hard with Nintendo is because, unlike those other companies, Nintendo ACTUALLY still makes good games that people want and that's hard to ignore. Nintendo doesn't make the mistakes other companies make. They refuse to jump on the AI/live service bandwagons, for example. They cracked the code for getting away with their bullshit; as long as they keep making good games that are lots of fun to play, their audience will ALWAYS forgive them and keep buying their shit.
so... 1. we don't officially know what patent Palworld is being sued over 2. the patent that is POPULARLY THEORIZED was originally filed at the same time Legends: Archeus came out. the "few months after Palrworld" was a renewal to add onto that 2nd point, PocketPair's other game before Palworld, Craftopia, was doing that same mechanic TWO YEARS BEFORE THE PATENT WAS FILED so while the end result is the same, it is important to keep the facts straight here
@@cosmicspacething3474 Neither are the dudes at Nintendo apparently, as the whole concept behind the creation of pokemon games is nothing but a bootleg from the dragon quest games. But unfortunately, at least 90% of the Nintendo fanboys community has the reputation of being highly autistic, of course they don't know jackshit about their beloved franchises.
@@DarthEquus And fir making this clear, they didn't sue Pocketpair over the copyright infringements about creature design and how some of them look like actual cheap rip off from the pokemon games, because they knew the judge would reject the accusations. Which means they don't have the pretense of emanating a cease and desist order toward Palworld, the worst it can happen if Pocketpair loses the lawsuit is that they'll have to pay the big N a percentage of the game's sales for compensation.
@@jador9641 My concern is the ridiculous patent over the capturing mechanic, which is what they're suing over in Japan. In the USA, they would be laughed out of court.
Copyright laws are stupid and outdated, and companies are abusing them like crazy. We need to fix them ASAP. (Also, that GameFreak leak was most definitely payback by the fans. Even though that makes everyone look bad. No one is a good person on all of this.)
That Typhlosion chomo was disgusting. I thought GameFreak was better than that. Conjured up the gross shit I saw from those who worked on SpongeBob and Rugrats...🤮
Also wouldn't it make sense for the company to Target people that are making profit or infringing their ip for there own personal gain and not targeting people that are making fan games fan remakes or even roms hacks in a way that doesn't infringe the company's IP but doing this for free and why can't Nintendo embrace fan games that are being made by their fans to at least help expand the company even and their fan base more like Sega has done and they are cool with their fans making fan games about their characters Mainly Sonic characters and they will even hire you to make official games for them even though Sega has mediocre games they got their fans keeping their games alive just why doesn't Nintendo embrace their own fan base because otherwise like Sega they will be fine with them making fan games about their characters or even remake a lot of games that are not available for PC or modern consoles I mean this is something that could be possible if they just got rid of these Banks and the investor that Nintendo has
I have a game rental story. There was an N64 game called Beetle Adventure Racing. Fantastic game, look it up if you have the chance. Anyway, there used to be a little rental place right around the corner from my house. We went in and found this game once, decided to try it out. $5 for the week. Turns out, we loved it. Me, my sisters, my dad(mom wasn't much of a gamer usually), but it was great. So the next week when we took it back, we immediately rented it again. And the next week. This happened for about 2 months. Sometimes we didn't even bring the game back, we just gave them another $5 and kept it. After 2 months the shop owner said "Look, just give me $10 and keep it." I think I might still have it somewhere.
I never knew there was a Beetle Racing game! I was thinking bugs. 🤣 Sounds like us with Harvest Moon 64. We tried to buy it but our video game rental place said no because it made too much money... FROM US! Our guy wasn't as nice lol.
@@ScooterMcgavunTV hah, yeah. Like I said, great game. Volkswagen beetles. I'm not usually big on racing games but this one really grabbed me. Amazing track design. Tons and tons of hidden secrets and shortcuts. Fun multiplayer modes. Final unlockable car was a police beetle with a working siren that would actually make other racers pull over. Shame your local rental place was a jerk.
You'd think that since Nintendo was recently hacked, you'd think some troll would give Nintendo a serious headache and somehow "Fix" the whole patent thing and even remove a few important files. . . Hell, maybe even reveal some crucial and incriminating evidence to show they shouldn't patent game mechanics to begin with
I should mention it's been shed light that most of the recent takedowns, mostly on UA-cam, are reported to be imposters or bots. Almost a similar situation to GMOD before.
@@ScooterMcgavunTV To clarify myself with the GMOD situation: Before Garry announced it, it was acknowledged that the takedowns were being sent by a person going under the name Aaron Peters, a past employee from Nintendo. There was some details people noticed as evidence it was all fake when side by side actual Nintendo takedown emails (using takedowns from AMR2 or some of the Zelda fangame takedowns for examples) such as incorrect direct link to appeal, wrong team, and even messages being sent as under Nintendo, rather than Nintendo of Japan. Once Garry announced the takedowns, many people, especially some GMOD UA-camrs who were practically heads of the Peters investigation like CrispyToast, still doubted Garry's message saying it was actually Nintendo. Garry did a check, still says it's Nintendo, but worded it in a way that suggests he didn't check, but rather other people checked and just saw "Nintendo" and assumed it was them. To this day, whether it actually was Nintendo that issued it remains a 50/50, at least for me. But most people already accepted it was the big N themselves.
Japan has been known at times to play fast and loose with copyrighted material... unless said material belongs to a Japanese company. Case in point: the anime Lupin the Third was partially based on a French series, when they got sued they merely changed the name to Rupan for the western market.
it should be known, nintendo before the 80s, putout games that were considered "low quality" like that monkey magic breakout game (even kotaku insulted it, their an nintendo supporter blog) - when miyamoto and gunpei were entering the gamedev departments (miyamoto with his dk concept) ninintendo/miyamoto outsoured their concepts to a tv programming comany 'ikegami' whose already worked with them before, when donkey kong was successful, nintendo tried to wrestle the source code in a lawsuit with them, nintendo already had histories of doing shady shit prior to these recent lawsuits, and it shows
Yes but if they did nothing about it and had let it continue. Soon enough someone in Japan selling stuff like roms on emulated devices. Could make the claim in court that because they did not defend their copyright they should not have to pay reparations. This wouldn't happen immediately but if left alone for long enough it could happen that's what their trying to avoid by suing people.
Nintendo hates fun: reminder anytime theres a fun glitch in a game someone finds nintendo has to remove it. There was a mario game where you could make kitty mario do specific trick by hitting a button. The game wasnt meant to do that so in the sequal they actually made the game harder to play by changing the button layouts to make sure you couldnt do the trick anymore. The trick wasnt even game breaking it only added fun value and it seemed like it was part of the game purposely but apparently it wasnt. Allegedly anyway I dont trust nintendo not to lose their sue happy minds.
Well since you asked... I remember renting Final Fantasy as a kid, and not understanding you had to EQUIP weapons and armors you bought and thinking the game was too hard as a result of getting owned by imps... But yeah, screw Nintendo. I don't even play any of their games anymore.
Makes me wonder how many games I gave up on as a kid because I just didn't understand the machanics. I thought Superman 64 was one of them, but no, it's just a bad game. Lol Down with Nintendo! 😆
For emulators... All nintendo had to do was pull a VALVE! Make a multi system launcher, or just a PC/Switch launcher. Using the ECurrency they already have for the EShop. Put Nintendo games, both new and old on their regardless of popularity. As well as allow those games to be modded to extend their life. They'd have endless funds from that.
When I was a kid I rented civilization 2 and I never returned it because I just forgot about it and by the time I remembered it the store I rented it from had closed
You monster! I actually got the chance to play one of the mini clasic consoles Nintendo released over the weekend and totally forgot how stupid it is that you technically can't use any footage from it.
I get youre going for the algortihm catching stuff and hey it worked on me too, but a title like this has me expecting a couple of things: 1.An overview of a history of important Nintendo lawsuits 2. Showing that they lost it, perhaps why too 3. The ramifications this had on gaming history 4. How that ties into the current lawsuits they are making, perhaps comparing and comtrastings the legal culture at the time and how the courts would be likely to respond, and wondering if they woild be more in Nintendos favor this time around, and potentially some speculation on if the prevous lawsuits happened today if they would have had the same outcome, and if they wouldnt, using that to further showcase how important is was to gaming history that Nintendo lost those lawsuits. Etc. But you really dont do anything like that; you do go over a bit of Nintendo lawsuit history and a brief overview of the current situation, but you don't go into any great or explicit detail, if I wasnt informed already I wouldnt jave left this video with much new knowledge. When you do mention them losing the game genie lawsuit, one of the main topics outlined by the thesis in the video title, you brush past it dont go into detail and make no effort to explain how it chamged history and why it was good and how it is relevant now. This is basicakly just a rambling rant piece on Nintendo, which is fine, but not exactly what I was promised. Like the overall topic isnt even a history of Nintendo lawsuits they lost, its just Nintendo and why the suck. Mainly you should have gone into more detail about the losses you did mention and what this meant for gaming history. "Nintendo's never going to stop making these STUPID lawsuits and I cant take it anymore" "The actual Nintendo lawsuit you dont know about" (Clickbaity as hell but ties into your "Nintendo vs Fun" argument which seemed to be the real major focus) I aint no youtuber but titles like these seem a bit more appropriate to me; your titls should reflect the main central point of your talking piece, which wasnt the last lawsuits they lost and how that impacted gaming history, but how Nintendo has been constantly making these dumb lawsuits incouding today, and how ultimately you actually suspect they are agaonst fun itself.
Thanks for the feedback you're the second person to say something so I'll probably change it! As a small creator, its really helps. I'm still learning. Thanks again :)
@@spazerdazer8421 oh no! lol Im gonna try the original title because the algorithm is always slow with picking my videos up I changed it to one (your giving me feed back on) because it seemed more engaging but I debated on if it was a lil too clickbaity. If it doesn't work I'll have to go back because that title was working well with a good like ratio but as a small creator I have to be click baity or no one sees me :(.
4:00 i mean emulators can run games you on you just need to figure out how to.. but yea... kinda wish that some games companies understood why players enjoyed older games an want to preserve
Yeh, i had my share of copywritten crap with nintendo, the are petty, i cant believe that a childhood video game company is run by below-average individuals with a mindset of bullshit, i know nintendo wont be dying any time soon, but eventually they will drop to a point were they wont be the powerhouse of the gaming industry, i mean litterally, when was the last time they released a good console? not some "everywhere you go" plastic coated battery with the cheapest set of controller on a crazly large price, they re-release games from like 10 years ago and sticking them up for 60 DOLLARS each, if greed isnt a sin that reaks from their CEOs and Heads of the company then i dont know what And if i see another emulator suddenly disappear out of thin air without a explaination of said disappearence, that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back
Ok wow so they HAVE lost lawsuits before. I always thought it was more they they simply couldn't win some so they just threatened to nickel and dime there competition. Like pocket pair and over MULTIPLE PATENT!
So this might be controversial to say... But I think like how Elon Musk is helping Gina Carano... Gabe Newell should be stepping up and helping legal fund the bullied side against these companies like Nintendo and other bs law suits that are anti-inovation and anti-customer.
It's really good! Is it as good as BOW that's debatable lol but it definitely scratches that same itch, and the base building machanics are some of the best I've ever seen. Next time I talk about indie games, I'll put the titles on screen. My bad!
I really don't mind Nintendo Sue inviduals who uses Emulators. I mean really!? You must be so poor that you have to emulate their games. How petty you folks are! XD Nintendo stop Sue people as longer you actually buy their games. But if you decide to Emulate their games, then yes, they have the right to Sue for it because Emulation is free which means no money for them, while you are getting money for your UA-cam Channel. Funny you folks are complaining about Nintendo, or any BUSSINESS Company like Disney love make money despite they are a BUSSINESS Company, yet you Content Creators love make money too. Double-Standards Much!
it's not comparable to grape, it's comparable to using VHS to record TV shows, especially if there are any proof of a wardrobe malfunction BEFORE they blurred out the mistake XD so stop using such egregious acts of violets against vulnerable people on a pile of nothing burger that's only making a ding into your bottom line, HOWARD >:(
So frustrating..
It's been proven in court that emulation is perfectly legal, and so by extension videos of emulation should be considered fair use
But UA-cam has clauses that supercede their obligation to maintain fair use, and can remove a video for any reason they want
So if Nintendo says it's a harmful video which shows people "how" to emulate their games - it just gets taken down no questions asked
And they just get away with it
It's just like this thing with Palworld
The Patent that Nintendo is filing on is for a "3d throwing a pokeball" mechanic, and they are citing Legends: Arceus with that Patent (Released Jan 2022)
And while it is true that Palworld was developed at the exact same time - (Late Jan 2022)
That same developer had a "3d throwing a pokeball" mechanic in their previous game, Craftopia (Released Sept 2020)
They just didn't file a patent for that mechanic, partially because they don't own it either tbh
It easily could be argued that they based it on the battlepets system from World of Warcraft, which had a "3D throwing a pokeball" mechanic in it as early as Sept 2012 - the release date of Mists of Pandaria -PREDATING this patent and it's subsequent legal precedent by almost 10 years?
So at this point three separate development teams have come up with this mechanic, and the team which came up with it LAST is now claiming ownership...
In American Court, legal precedent here would be that none have the right to patent this mechanic any more than you should be able to patent jumping or using WASD
Even though, like Palworld, Battlepets was a blatant carbon copy of Pokemon, Activision-Blizzard probably has the rights to the first use of that mechanic, because they were the first to bring it to 3D
However, for that to happen, Activision-Blizzard and Microsoft would have to take the fight to Nintendo to argue those rights exist
Microsoft is too scared of Big Nintendo to do that, too worried about the PR
And they should, because Nintendo - has NEVER - lost a court case that they have initiated in Japanese Circuit Court
So, they're wrong.. but they're Nintendo so they get away with it
I didn't talk too much about Palworld because I can't compete with big creators talking about popular things unless I come at it a different angle. Like I did with this video! But this comment has a lot of good insight on the case and why it's so annoying. 🥲
most of the video showing how to do emulation was also showing game play of Nintendo games while doing it and why do people keep thinking they are suing over the ball thing no one has any idea what they are getting sued over not even pocket pair
@jsmith3946 Most of the classic game footage is from classic videos on YT not emulated, and I put the sources about the Palworld lawsuit on screen when I'm talking about it. People know it's just Pocket Pair can't talk about it.
@@jsmith3946cause it’s the only thing could even attempt to sue them over in patent court besides the mounts changing based on terrain patent and no one thinks they have a leg to stand on with the mount one period
this is why Discord is a viable option. but i'm going the Sloth's approach and not bother with it when it comes to still profitable games (i just wanna play the Dr. Brain games again, and that hasn't been on sale in DECADES).
Basically Nintendo is trying to stop people from doing the exact same thing they did in the past. That’s just hypocritical
Pretty much. But they lost a lot in the past, so hopefully, they lose against pocket pair and it changes gaming again.
It's one of those pot-and-kettle effects.
An interaction between some OCs of mine says all that needs to be said.
Velociraptor: So your power is to transform into video game characters?
Game Changer: Yep.
Velociraptor: Can you turn into Luigi?
Game Changer: I could, but I don't want to be sued by Nintendo.
@@Hero_of_Comedy Game Changer doesn't want that target on his back. 😆
Smart.
The main problem here is japans awful copyright laws has they have no fair use and tbh most of the worlds copyright systems are broken and old
I would agree. The fact that I can work on a commentary video like this and I have to sweat bullets is not fun. 🫠
The lack of fair use laws in Japan is cultural, which is also why the Japanese public is almost entirely on Nintendo's side. What we call "fair use" is, to the Japanese, insulting to the original creator.
And most of the world's copyright systems are broken for the same reason: corporations buying out governments and changing the laws to favor them.
@@LordSiravant I wish, 🔵Sony beat 🔴Nintendon'ts buts, I'm I right.
@LordSiravant
This is ironic considering how many anime and media are based on preexisting ideas. Like DragonBall using journey to the West and Power Rangers.
@@HypercomboProductionDragon Ball predates Power Rangers pal, you mean Super Sentai.
I genuinely hope everyone does the most petty stuff against Nintendo to annoy them cause at this point they deserve it
That's why I made this video lol I'm being petty. 😆
As a person who loved Mario games on my SNES all the way over to Switch, Seeing them throw out these lawsuits makes me want them to loose every lawsuit they make on another person. How long do I want them to loose? Until the company doesn’t exist anymore.
Nintendo really is the Disney of video games
True!
I've been saying for years that the old blood of Nintendo has to cycle out and let a new generation take over in terms of their legal team. Sega's been embracing rom hacks and fan games of Sonic for years and that's strengthened the brand more than one could believe
What about other sega series they heavily protecting with DMCA hammer?
@@x149te Yeaahhh..... I got nothin' there
Raised in the 90s, the Palworld lawsuit reminded me of how bad they've been for years. I agree, cycle it out, but I think sega chilled out when they officially lost, and then they stopped caring. Lol
@@ScooterMcgavunTV did you see video "The most expensive Nintendo lawsuit"? It's very interesting why Japan sees Nintendo as saviors while west looks at them as at demons. I'm wondering what's really behind Pocketpair doors.
@x149te no but I'll definitely check it out!
Theres no way nintendo can win that monster collector lawsuit and theres one huge reason: Digimon. Even if they win against Palworld, Japan wont give them a patent because Digimon has existed for almost as long as Pokémon has.
True
Its ironic that Nintendo was the savior of the videogame crash in the 80s, yet they are on the same path to cause it in the current times, because there will eventually come a point where people are completely done with their BS, and people will exclusively just pirate their games out of spite for all they have done to the emulation scene, because while its true that some people emulate to pirate, the majority of people are also those that just like having access to mods to improve their game experience, like most of the people that played Breath of the Wild and modded the heck out of it, or those that add a bunch of crazy characters and stuff into Smash.
Not when all the competition is even worse.
Still don't understand why people keep buying their crap
😂👍
Case in point: Nintendo was never going to make Super Mario Maker, but they saw a fan project doing the same thing was getting popular, and got it shut down so they could make bank copying them
I didnt even know that. That's crazy!
Surprisingly nintendo does this a lot.
Croc was a yoshi game that nintendo cancelled and fired everyone for. So they used that engine to make croc and salvage it. Nintendo decided to announce at the same time mario 64 which was pretty much the same game they fired them over and yes, they tried to silence them at the expo.
Now pokemon leaks showed an unreleased pokemon game called "Rodeo" which you ride a pokemon and even attack while riding them. Sounds like palworld right? I can bet you that's why they sued them.
They sue palworld so THEY can release a similar game, makes sense since they done it in the past and never learn.
TathatrNuar Actually Nintendo made Mario Maker as a response to Kaizo Mario World, the first Kaizo Mario hack that gained notoriety.
@@megaman37456 that's a different thing than the one I'm talking about. There was a fanwork that was basically the exact same thing as Super Mario Maker but it came out first.
I can't believe this quality is underappreciated, we need more people to see this!
Also, I hate Nintendo for banning mods, fan games, emulates, goddamnit, if you can't preserve your own old games, at least let us pirate it! And it's not just Nintendo who does this, I hate companies with "we don't need it, but if you try to play it we ban it" mindset
They not touching old emulators. Only current gen
Thanks for the support! 😁
Companies have for sure are becoming more greedy. I miss when they used to lose Lawsuits. 🥲
@@x149tecorrection they have been fucking with old emulators they took down a giga fuckton of gamecube roms just a year ago
Gamecube is 23 years old it is old enough to drink so dont say its current gen its a misconception
@@x149te Nintendo might be planning on going after the Wii/Gamecube emulator Dolphin. In 2023 Nintendo sent Valve a cease and desist for hosting Dolphin emulator on Steam and in part of it Nintendo asked Valve to keep any evidence of Dolphin being hosted on Steam.
@RegularHeptagon wrong. Valve asked Nintendo what they think about Dolphin on Steam. They answered "we don't like it". Valve then disapproved Dolphin release. That's it. No official docs from Nintendo. That's why Dolphin still available on their site.
Remember, they sued SMG4 (bassicly mario with 1 IQ) for ✨️CoPyRiGhT iNfRiNgMeNt✨️
I didn't know about that one! Had to look it up. I've seen their videos before, and they should've been included in this! Nintendo sucks lol
I don’t think they did that one there videos / arcs
@@ScooterMcgavunTV, nintendo actually lost against that one
I do not believe they did, and if they did they lost. This is due to Australia's looser copyright laws, or something of the like...
@Spade948 missed opportunity on my part i remember them losing to Block Buster and Game Genie but totally didn't know they sued them too and lost. I was wondering how they got away with making those videos. Lol
Gonna love how Nintendo evolved from being a company that cared about the gaming industry to a company that owns the gaming industry. If everyone in the world banned together and stopped buying Nintendo products for one year then that could send a message. Only problem is I love Pokemon cards so wouldn’t exactly be easy to shut down the multi million corporation
Would it help if I told you that buying card packs was basically gambling?
renting Super Nintendo games was big in our family, i'd always be playing with my dad and/or brother. we'd rent from Blockbuster all the time up until the place closed down and whatever games we had at the time we kept them. i still have a game (Out of this World) with a rented tape on it.
See!? This is what I’m talking about! They are afraid of us. They are afraid of us doing better game and fan game because they can’t do better.
I don’t hate Nintendo games. I just hate the company doing all this crap
Same!
I really hope in the future they pass some legislature greatly penalizing vexacious lawsuits
I find it so annoying that people dont stop buying Nintendo products when stuff like this keeps happening. When Nintendo keeps harming its fans and attempting to bury its supposed competitors with the most disgusting and down right miserable ways.
Nintendo needs to be taught a lesson, they cant keep getting away with this sh##.
Same! I really haven't played anything since BOTW and some of it is based on the switches performance the other is their business practices. Hopefully they lose some more Lawsuits and get the reality check they need.
The reason why it's so hard with Nintendo is because, unlike those other companies, Nintendo ACTUALLY still makes good games that people want and that's hard to ignore. Nintendo doesn't make the mistakes other companies make. They refuse to jump on the AI/live service bandwagons, for example. They cracked the code for getting away with their bullshit; as long as they keep making good games that are lots of fun to play, their audience will ALWAYS forgive them and keep buying their shit.
@LordSiravant True! Like indie steam games scratch that hit but even the games I showed can't beat LoZ.
Too many people are so smooth-brained that they forget everything a few weeks after a controversy.
Nintendo's competitors are too busy fighting over who can get the best graphics processor to compete with Nintendo.
so...
1. we don't officially know what patent Palworld is being sued over
2. the patent that is POPULARLY THEORIZED was originally filed at the same time Legends: Archeus came out. the "few months after Palrworld" was a renewal
to add onto that 2nd point, PocketPair's other game before Palworld, Craftopia, was doing that same mechanic TWO YEARS BEFORE THE PATENT WAS FILED
so while the end result is the same, it is important to keep the facts straight here
True should've worded that better in the intro!
Nintendo could’ve only sued the bootleg, but they just HAD to ruin it for literally everyone else too…
stupid take is stupid, I see.
@@pixelwhisper1999 Hey bud, not sure if you know this, but pocketpair isn’t exactly a bastion of creativity given their history…
@@cosmicspacething3474 Neither are the dudes at Nintendo apparently, as the whole concept behind the creation of pokemon games is nothing but a bootleg from the dragon quest games.
But unfortunately, at least 90% of the Nintendo fanboys community has the reputation of being highly autistic, of course they don't know jackshit about their beloved franchises.
Well, Palworld might be safe for now.
How so?
@DarthEquus if Nintendo has lost lawsuits before, they probably will again.
@@DarthEquus And fir making this clear, they didn't sue Pocketpair over the copyright infringements about creature design and how some of them look like actual cheap rip off from the pokemon games, because they knew the judge would reject the accusations.
Which means they don't have the pretense of emanating a cease and desist order toward Palworld, the worst it can happen if Pocketpair loses the lawsuit is that they'll have to pay the big N a percentage of the game's sales for compensation.
@@jador9641 My concern is the ridiculous patent over the capturing mechanic, which is what they're suing over in Japan. In the USA, they would be laughed out of court.
Copyright laws are stupid and outdated, and companies are abusing them like crazy. We need to fix them ASAP. (Also, that GameFreak leak was most definitely payback by the fans. Even though that makes everyone look bad. No one is a good person on all of this.)
Agree 💯
That Typhlosion chomo was disgusting. I thought GameFreak was better than that. Conjured up the gross shit I saw from those who worked on SpongeBob and Rugrats...🤮
Also wouldn't it make sense for the company to Target people that are making profit or infringing their ip for there own personal gain and not targeting people that are making fan games fan remakes or even roms hacks in a way that doesn't infringe the company's IP but doing this for free and why can't Nintendo embrace fan games that are being made by their fans to at least help expand the company even and their fan base more like Sega has done and they are cool with their fans making fan games about their characters Mainly Sonic characters and they will even hire you to make official games for them even though Sega has mediocre games they got their fans keeping their games alive just why doesn't Nintendo embrace their own fan base because otherwise like Sega they will be fine with them making fan games about their characters or even remake a lot of games that are not available for PC or modern consoles I mean this is something that could be possible if they just got rid of these Banks and the investor that Nintendo has
I have a game rental story.
There was an N64 game called Beetle Adventure Racing. Fantastic game, look it up if you have the chance. Anyway, there used to be a little rental place right around the corner from my house. We went in and found this game once, decided to try it out. $5 for the week. Turns out, we loved it. Me, my sisters, my dad(mom wasn't much of a gamer usually), but it was great. So the next week when we took it back, we immediately rented it again. And the next week. This happened for about 2 months. Sometimes we didn't even bring the game back, we just gave them another $5 and kept it. After 2 months the shop owner said "Look, just give me $10 and keep it." I think I might still have it somewhere.
I never knew there was a Beetle Racing game! I was thinking bugs. 🤣
Sounds like us with Harvest Moon 64. We tried to buy it but our video game rental place said no because it made too much money... FROM US! Our guy wasn't as nice lol.
@@ScooterMcgavunTV hah, yeah. Like I said, great game. Volkswagen beetles. I'm not usually big on racing games but this one really grabbed me. Amazing track design. Tons and tons of hidden secrets and shortcuts. Fun multiplayer modes. Final unlockable car was a police beetle with a working siren that would actually make other racers pull over.
Shame your local rental place was a jerk.
You'd think that since Nintendo was recently hacked, you'd think some troll would give Nintendo a serious headache and somehow "Fix" the whole patent thing and even remove a few important files. . . Hell, maybe even reveal some crucial and incriminating evidence to show they shouldn't patent game mechanics to begin with
My dad won a lifesize Spiderman from blockbuster long ago still has it sitting in the house 😂
That's so cool! Sometimes, I miss when you had to actually go places and got actual things. 😆
Nintendo is honestly going to one day have issues with this
Let's hope not, but I'm poor, so they'll get nothing out of me! Muhahahha lol
@@ScooterMcgavunTV like I would emulate on my computer in the Nintendo museum just to see what they can do to someone
I should mention it's been shed light that most of the recent takedowns, mostly on UA-cam, are reported to be imposters or bots.
Almost a similar situation to GMOD before.
True that happens but I thought the Gmod thing was rumored to be fake but Nintendo confirmed it to be them.
@@ScooterMcgavunTV To clarify myself with the GMOD situation:
Before Garry announced it, it was acknowledged that the takedowns were being sent by a person going under the name Aaron Peters, a past employee from Nintendo. There was some details people noticed as evidence it was all fake when side by side actual Nintendo takedown emails (using takedowns from AMR2 or some of the Zelda fangame takedowns for examples) such as incorrect direct link to appeal, wrong team, and even messages being sent as under Nintendo, rather than Nintendo of Japan.
Once Garry announced the takedowns, many people, especially some GMOD UA-camrs who were practically heads of the Peters investigation like CrispyToast, still doubted Garry's message saying it was actually Nintendo. Garry did a check, still says it's Nintendo, but worded it in a way that suggests he didn't check, but rather other people checked and just saw "Nintendo" and assumed it was them.
To this day, whether it actually was Nintendo that issued it remains a 50/50, at least for me. But most people already accepted it was the big N themselves.
The last sega game i bought was frontiers.
The last nintendo game I got was...
huh. Pokken Tournament. I wonder why.
Just one more reason why to never step foot in japan.
I knew this day would happen from some reason 💀
I haven't been playing Nintendo games for awhile but now I'm not even touching their characters in VRChat!
Im actually surprise they even allow them tbh.
I would really prefer if you didn't clickbait me into thinking Palworld was safe.
Sorry, it's about multiple lawsuits... that's why it says "These Lawsuits" in the title definitely not my intention.
Japan has been known at times to play fast and loose with copyrighted material... unless said material belongs to a Japanese company. Case in point: the anime Lupin the Third was partially based on a French series, when they got sued they merely changed the name to Rupan for the western market.
it should be known, nintendo before the 80s, putout games that were considered "low quality" like that monkey magic breakout game (even kotaku insulted it, their an nintendo supporter blog) - when miyamoto and gunpei were entering the gamedev departments (miyamoto with his dk concept) ninintendo/miyamoto outsoured their concepts to a tv programming comany 'ikegami' whose already worked with them before, when donkey kong was successful, nintendo tried to wrestle the source code in a lawsuit with them, nintendo already had histories of doing shady shit prior to these recent lawsuits, and it shows
Remember young children, pirating Nintendo games is morally correct.
hey nintendo i dare ya to try to sue others playing your games on pc in heaven itself ;)
To be fair copyright law's are different in Japan and in japan if you don't defend your copyright you can lose it.
they're not suing over copyright.
Yes but if they did nothing about it and had let it continue. Soon enough someone in Japan selling stuff like roms on emulated devices. Could make the claim in court that because they did not defend their copyright they should not have to pay reparations. This wouldn't happen immediately but if left alone for long enough it could happen that's what their trying to avoid by suing people.
Nintendo hates fun: reminder anytime theres a fun glitch in a game someone finds nintendo has to remove it. There was a mario game where you could make kitty mario do specific trick by hitting a button. The game wasnt meant to do that so in the sequal they actually made the game harder to play by changing the button layouts to make sure you couldnt do the trick anymore. The trick wasnt even game breaking it only added fun value and it seemed like it was part of the game purposely but apparently it wasnt. Allegedly anyway I dont trust nintendo not to lose their sue happy minds.
In conclusion Nintendo is the little guy and fun is bad
Poor little guy Nintendo lol
Well since you asked... I remember renting Final Fantasy as a kid, and not understanding you had to EQUIP weapons and armors you bought and thinking the game was too hard as a result of getting owned by imps...
But yeah, screw Nintendo. I don't even play any of their games anymore.
Makes me wonder how many games I gave up on as a kid because I just didn't understand the machanics. I thought Superman 64 was one of them, but no, it's just a bad game. Lol
Down with Nintendo! 😆
Yeah, I don't buy anything Nintendo anymore. They lost their ways.
6:42 how did nintendo lose that lawsuit?
Nintendo Is In The Right!
Same tendo hates fun. Also, everyone hate same tendo now. 😂
With fans like these, i doubt the big N needs actual enemies to begin with.
For emulators... All nintendo had to do was pull a VALVE!
Make a multi system launcher, or just a PC/Switch launcher.
Using the ECurrency they already have for the EShop.
Put Nintendo games, both new and old on their regardless of popularity.
As well as allow those games to be modded to extend their life.
They'd have endless funds from that.
For real! They hate fun and money sooo much. 😪
When I was a kid I rented civilization 2 and I never returned it because I just forgot about it and by the time I remembered it the store I rented it from had closed
Not saying you're at fault but also... 👀🤣
I love Nintendo lawsuits.
Education, entertaining. They have everything
Reminder to report any video featuring NSO classics footage since they're emulated games
You monster! I actually got the chance to play one of the mini clasic consoles Nintendo released over the weekend and totally forgot how stupid it is that you technically can't use any footage from it.
We are like Sega, doing what Nintendon't!!
2:23 I feel much better knowing I wasn't the only one
Same dude! I thought I just sucked. 🤣
Good to know I'm not alone.
I get youre going for the algortihm catching stuff and hey it worked on me too, but a title like this has me expecting a couple of things:
1.An overview of a history of important Nintendo lawsuits
2. Showing that they lost it, perhaps why too
3. The ramifications this had on gaming history
4. How that ties into the current lawsuits they are making, perhaps comparing and comtrastings the legal culture at the time and how the courts would be likely to respond, and wondering if they woild be more in Nintendos favor this time around, and potentially some speculation on if the prevous lawsuits happened today if they would have had the same outcome, and if they wouldnt, using that to further showcase how important is was to gaming history that Nintendo lost those lawsuits. Etc.
But you really dont do anything like that; you do go over a bit of Nintendo lawsuit history and a brief overview of the current situation, but you don't go into any great or explicit detail, if I wasnt informed already I wouldnt jave left this video with much new knowledge.
When you do mention them losing the game genie lawsuit, one of the main topics outlined by the thesis in the video title, you brush past it dont go into detail and make no effort to explain how it chamged history and why it was good and how it is relevant now.
This is basicakly just a rambling rant piece on Nintendo, which is fine, but not exactly what I was promised.
Like the overall topic isnt even a history of Nintendo lawsuits they lost, its just Nintendo and why the suck.
Mainly you should have gone into more detail about the losses you did mention and what this meant for gaming history.
"Nintendo's never going to stop making these STUPID lawsuits and I cant take it anymore"
"The actual Nintendo lawsuit you dont know about"
(Clickbaity as hell but ties into your "Nintendo vs Fun" argument which seemed to be the real major focus)
I aint no youtuber but titles like these seem a bit more appropriate to me; your titls should reflect the main central point of your talking piece, which wasnt the last lawsuits they lost and how that impacted gaming history, but how Nintendo has been constantly making these dumb lawsuits incouding today, and how ultimately you actually suspect they are agaonst fun itself.
Thanks for the feedback you're the second person to say something so I'll probably change it! As a small creator, its really helps. I'm still learning.
Thanks again :)
@@ScooterMcgavunTV hope it helps, I saw the other comment too
(Though you have a typo currently with Nintendo's lol)
@@spazerdazer8421 oh no! lol Im gonna try the original title because the algorithm is always slow with picking my videos up I changed it to one (your giving me feed back on) because it seemed more engaging but I debated on if it was a lil too clickbaity. If it doesn't work I'll have to go back because that title was working well with a good like ratio but as a small creator I have to be click baity or no one sees me :(.
UA-cam knows they can't throw you in the algorithm or they'll be sued too xD
I hope not :P
4:00 i mean emulators can run games you on you just need to figure out how to..
but yea... kinda wish that some games companies understood why players enjoyed older games an want to preserve
I actually really enjoy your video style.
Thanks, dude! All I watch is UA-cam, so it's like several inspirations combined into whatever this channel is. 😆😅
5:28 i think they love fun and hate money
You might be right... its undeniable that they make fun games. 😆
I remember going to Blockbuster to rent Tony hawk's underground did Tony hawk pro skater for the GameCube good times
I kinda miss those days! But I mean we do have it so good now tho. So im just glad I was there for it all. 😊
What was the game that you showed that had a wingsuit
Enshrouded! Its really good.
Thanks
Yeh, i had my share of copywritten crap with nintendo, the are petty, i cant believe that a childhood video game company is run by below-average individuals with a mindset of bullshit, i know nintendo wont be dying any time soon, but eventually they will drop to a point were they wont be the powerhouse of the gaming industry, i mean litterally, when was the last time they released a good console? not some "everywhere you go" plastic coated battery with the cheapest set of controller on a crazly large price, they re-release games from like 10 years ago and sticking them up for 60 DOLLARS each, if greed isnt a sin that reaks from their CEOs and Heads of the company then i dont know what
And if i see another emulator suddenly disappear out of thin air without a explaination of said disappearence, that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back
i thought they lost to palworld
Not yet but hopefully they do!
Ok wow so they HAVE lost lawsuits before. I always thought it was more they they simply couldn't win some so they just threatened to nickel and dime there competition.
Like pocket pair and over MULTIPLE PATENT!
Yeah, they don't always win, but do win a lot! I made this to inspire hope for us palworld fans lol
AVGN reference
Pokerouge and Pokemon emerald rouge are amazing games
I just knew it all a damn scam
So this might be controversial to say... But I think like how Elon Musk is helping Gina Carano... Gabe Newell should be stepping up and helping legal fund the bullied side against these companies like Nintendo and other bs law suits that are anti-inovation and anti-customer.
Only Gabe can save us 🙏
#boycottnintendo
For real! They need a reality check! Hopefully, this Palworld lawsuit is another one they lose.
@ScooterMcgavunTV but if Nintendo wins the lawsuit then gaming is done
what game is that!?! 7:21
Enshrouded! Definitely worth playing.
Suck it Nintendo! I agree 💯
Down with NINTENDO!!
What was that game at the end recommend instead of BotW? It looks so fun!
Enshrouded
It's really good! Is it as good as BOW that's debatable lol but it definitely scratches that same itch, and the base building machanics are some of the best I've ever seen. Next time I talk about indie games, I'll put the titles on screen. My bad!
@@ScooterMcgavunTV I've seen people play it (including LGIO breaking everything, kinda how I recognized the glider) Definitely getting it eventually
@@Bacon8t0r worth it!
I really don't mind Nintendo Sue inviduals who uses Emulators. I mean really!? You must be so poor that you have to emulate their games. How petty you folks are! XD
Nintendo stop Sue people as longer you actually buy their games. But if you decide to Emulate their games, then yes, they have the right to Sue for it because Emulation is free which means no money for them, while you are getting money for your UA-cam Channel.
Funny you folks are complaining about Nintendo, or any BUSSINESS Company like Disney love make money despite they are a BUSSINESS Company, yet you Content Creators love make money too.
Double-Standards Much!
It seem your language could suck it.
it's not comparable to grape, it's comparable to using VHS to record TV shows, especially if there are any proof of a wardrobe malfunction BEFORE they blurred out the mistake XD
so stop using such egregious acts of violets against vulnerable people on a pile of nothing burger that's only making a ding into your bottom line, HOWARD >:(
Genesis Does What Nintendon't
Support us indie creators! This lawsuit came at the worst time. Game mechanics SHOULDN'T be patented.