Interesting. So, a late friend of mine, Burl Gilman, was born(in 1934) and raised in Mingo County. He recounted many stories about being there in his later years before he passed. One that he told me, always intrigued me. He told me there was a place called Twelvepole creek he lived near. Once when he was playing up a holler in a creek, he found a rectangular shaped stone, about 2 feet tall or so and almost that in width laying in the creek. He told me it was covered in strange markings chiseled into the stone. He always regretted not going back and reporting what he found. Sure do miss that man and his Mingo Co. childhood tales.
My Dad was from the area around Lenore. Trace Creek to be exact. There was a grove of trees that contained 3 native American grindstones about a hundred yards from his boyhood home. I remember going to look at them when I was a kid. He said that there was a native American village that existed there long ago. He told us it might have been a Mingo village. He also knew the general area of their burial ground.
@@samuelestepp725 he is. LOL My mamaw still lives there. As well as my Aunt Linda. I lost my Uncle due to covid about 2 years ago. My Mamaw was a Sheppard before she married my Papaw Isom.
I looked through a bunch of the comments and did not see a one that mentioned Leo's story about digging his own mother's grave. I was deeply touched by that. His cousin Johnny was the only other family member that helped him dig the grave. That is a wonderful thing to do, to dig a grave for someone that you love. I could tell that Leo was very grateful for the help and companionship when the did that for his departed mother. And Leo carries that connection to his cousin Johnny through Johnny's death from covid until today. To some folks that is just a story, but to others it is a tale of deep family connections not only in the hills of West Virginia, but through out history of the entire world. The mound builders did that too.
I work for a preservation group in the U.S., and it’s often surprising to folks that sites on the National Register of Historic Places can still be bulldozed. There aren’t protections in place that can keep that from happening. There’s a review process called “Section 106” where transportation projects have to review their impacts on National Register sites, but often they still move forward with the project. We’re not anti-development but you wish they could find another way to run these roads. Thank you so much for your videos!
My aunt Lucy Sorrell use to live there when the old 52 was in service I use to play on the Indian mound it was right in the middle of her yard I miss the old days. Keep up the great videos you all and god bless ya both
Used to hunt in Munday WV.....there was a small ridge overlooking 3 hollows and there were old carvings out on a point. As I remember it was broken circles and 3 arrows of different lengths, each pointing to a hollow. It was interesting.
Being from Huntington, if I’m not mistaken, there’s a Native American burial mound at the Camden Park amusement park in west Huntington! I can’t remember what Native American group it was from, but I’m almost certain it’s there! Might be something cool to go check out for the channel if you’re ever down the Huntington way!
I've heard many stories from miners and construction workers about things they saw and were told to get rid of it. There was no way the operation was shutting down. There are many wonderous things in WV, much of it on private property and kept secret.
Hello from the West, here in Idaho....I discovered your channel recently and love it! The area is so different from my part of the country. You take me places I would never get to see. Thank you so much, Leo and Heather....you're awesome!!
It's sad that the progress of a road had to move a Indian burial ground. I have heard of these burial mounds before but have not seen a cut away view of one. Interesting carvings on those rocks. Thanks for sharing more history, Leo
@@thehillbillyfiles I'll give you a heads up. They paved those back roads going there. And people drive with no sense. Take those blind turns alittle wide. Even way back in the day my grandma when she was in her younger years jumped out of a car as a passenger thinking they were going to be hit by a car. Now mind you that was probably back in the 50s. Don't forget to check out Blue Sulfur Springs. I havnt checked it out since the country worked on it. But they are confederate graves nearby there.
I’m from Indiana and we have Mounds State Park with the white river flowing through it near Anderson Indiana. We use to fine lots of clam shells and arrow heads etc... That place is so cool! I hope it haven’t changed. Ill look it up as I plan to go back to see relatives this summer!
It really is sad how our European based culture didn't have any more respect for the cultures of the indigenous peoples that lived in this land tens of thousands of years before the first European settlers arrived. You would have thought that with the mound having been on The National Register of Historic Places, they would have preserved the mound, at least rebury the remains in a place of honor and respect. This is my first of your videos I've seen. I think you did a great job on this. I'm from Southern Ohio and many years ago, I travelled all over Ohio visiting as many of the mound sites around the state as I had time to get to, located both in parks and a few on private land. In various places I lived in Ohio over the years, there were nearby moundworks. Take care in your travels and be Blessed on them.
Wow wow wow. This was really interesting. The research you both do to bring the past to the present is so much appreciated. It's sad though that the burial mound could not be preserved. To much is being lost for the sake of progress.
This is a great video . I wish there was something written down as to where the remains were moved to. You would think something would have been written down. Maybe some memorial sign. I am Native American and my ancestors walked the Trail of Tears .
May the Great Spirit bless you and yours. I have called the Bureau of Indian Affairs in Washington twice. First, I told them that the Williamson Mound in Ohio was in danger of being leveled. The next time, I told him it was gone. The head of Indian Affairs couldn't help. He blessed me...
I have to admit my chest tightened as I saw this ancient burial mound was removed for the sake of arriving someplace quicker. The petroglyphs are fascinating. Also removed from its original place but at least they are not lost.
It's sad that I grew up and graduated from chapmanville, we even had a class on WV history but I never knew how many historical places were around the area I grew up. Thank you for preserving history
I live in Northeast Indiana. Your videos are interesting. All the history you show and tell in your video's are absolutely awesome. Love learning about different places I never been. My maternal(the Mull's) side of the family are from Burke, Catawba and Rowan counties in North Carolina.
I used to live 8 miles from the WV state line in Maryland. We spent a lot of time in WV. I've lived in Idaho for the past 35 years. We have petroglyphs all over in the West. Some of the marks in this WV stone remind me of what are called sharpening marks. They're like the long, thin marks that you show here.
Great video again! We have several mounds in southern Ohio from the Adena and Hopewell cultures as well. Serpent Mound in Peebles is probably the most impressive, but Chillicothe has a bunch you can visit as well as Fort Hill in Highland County... As a side note, if you ever make it to South Shore in Greenup County Kentucky I'd love to see you do a video on the Indian Head Rock. There was a big fight for custody of it between South Shore and Portsmouth, Ohio after it was rediscovered in the Ohio River.
The Williamson Mound in southern Ohio was leveled around two years ago. The land in West Chester Ohio is more important as it is for the rich people now. It is owned by Reynolds. the dad of the county auditor. Pray to the Great Spirit to help us all.
Here in North Texas (but Originally from Southern Miss) Just found you channel. LOVING IT!! I LOVE History.....especially anything to do with Native American, Civil War, and that era. LOVED the Hatfield information. I have subscribed.
Once more, GREAT JOB....My Dad told me story of a great aunt, Pocahontas; look in to it from time to time. He also said that Paint Creek up Cabin Creek was named that because the native would take blackberries & paint around a tree to mark it as a place for food..Later
Hi guys! As always find your adventures just awesome! I agree with you it looks more ancient native American! Thank you for saying that about the natives. My husband was Seminole my children are and I have a granddaughter who is lakota. 🤗❤🤗
I was raised in Louisiana we have Poverty Point there that is dated to 5,000 years ago and mounds around our home in Monroe when I was growing up. They have been protected. I live in Arizona now and have petroglyphs of people, animals and various signs on rocks on my property which I care for by not telling people where they are. El Mirage, Arizona
It’s probably where they sharpened their bone tools, because it’s hard to nap bone. I lived at Laurel creek when they brought them to the lake. Honestly everyone knew about those rocks and when people are out hunting they would rest under the out crop. Almost all of marks have worn down and a lot have chipped off. I spoke to Dr.Pyle ( I think that’s how he spelled his name) he was over the move, he also thought it was just bone tool sharpening marks.
@@thehillbillyfiles I’ve become addicted to your channel. I love everything about it. The laid back easy going atmosphere is truly unique to UA-cam and love it. I’ve got my dad, he’s in his 70’s, watching now. Y’all have a good one. See ya in the next video :).
I enjoy your video. Thank you. I'm native of this area. Although weve all lost so many mounds and sites there are plenty left. Near there is terraformed valley long before that rock was carved someone made 17 huge dams on the Clear Fork river, all the flat land around Oceana is man made!! Wish we could see how the rocks were sitting originally. I'm familiar with writing systems all over the world, that is clearly not ogham. Looks like sized grinding for beads shafts etc. But that's just my opinion from seeing a video. It was in a rock shelter? This grinding takes a long time and it's nice for alot of people to take turns doing it. Well my fellow Appalachian I thank you again for this wonderful work you've done and thank you for being well
Your channel is definitely my favorite one !! I love history....you and your wife would be my favorite teachers. Enstead of deer hunting, you were loafin around 😂
These mounds are all over the United States. Thank you for showing info about such sacred sites. In Minnesota, towns/ schools/ parks/ historical sites are named: Indian Mounds or Mound.
I can remember when this was going on. I was going to Burch High in Delbarton. There was a lot of people upset about it just for a highway. And as far as Laurel Lake, I caught a lot of trout there. My favorite spot is up at the huckleberry. Thanks for a great trip down memory lane.
Great vid! I enjoyed this one a lot. I've always wondered about petroglyphs and cave paintings, and the significance of what they were depicting (that we have tendencies to assign religious or deep meaning to, or language), and whether perhaps they had no meaning at all - maybe they were doing just like we do today, except they didn't have spray paint. Maybe that Dingus rock was a place where they marked deer kills, or counted hides like we might scratch a concrete wall. I've always thought that we overthink people and history sometimes - people were the same then as they are now. The important part, is more that it is FROM that time and those people.
I just found your channel today This was so interesting I watched it twice! I’m subscribed and look forward to watching I’m the future. Thanks, Lynn in Naples FL 😎
This literally made me sick to my stomach. How could they do this? I'm not Native American but we had a dear friend who was the last full blooded Pomo from out here in Northern California. I remember back in the 1970's he took us on a tour to show us his ancestral land and told us the government was trying to claim it to build a dam. He fought it but lost. This story made me think of him and I cried again. This is wrong on so many levels.
Hey guys! Don't be too quick to totally dismiss the ogham theory. Many early missionaries tried to "tame the savage natives". This often included, but was not limited to, not allowing them to speak in their own language, wear traditional NA clothing, removing(or attempting to remove) children from the tribe to "teach" them civility and destroying NA art. These rocks very well could have been beautifully decorated by the early Native Americans but destroyed in the name of Christianity. It's possible (I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination on any of this), depending on when the earliest missionaries arrived in North America and if ogham was still being used at that time. There is a professor at one of the universities that specializes in ogham and it might be worth sending him a photo just to get his opinion. Sorry for the long post. Keep the videos coming. I love seeing what you and Heather come up with next. Try to get Heather to post some good ghost stories.
Wow! The waterfall was beautiful. I love the sound - very soothing. The petroglyphs are fascinating. Sadly the meanings are lost to time. I think they are Native American. I have never heard or read of Irish being in this land that early. Even the Vikings weren't here that early. That mound being destroyed infuriates me. I have a teeny tiny amt of native blood. Even if I didn't the destruction of that mound is appalling & disgusting. Reintering the remains with no marker only adds insult to injury. What in the hell is the matter with people. We seem to have no respect for our ancestors & our history. People in other countries don't behave like that. I just don't get it. Another really excellent video. Leo I saw you get that stick in the face. I'm really glad you didn't get it in the eye maybe you should have a helmet with a face shield.
There are books written about ogham sites and markings in the US. The ancient Celts kept a syllabary of the variants. It is thought these sites are 2,000 years old or 3,000 years old. The ogham language has no vowels just like ancient Hebrew which is an amazing coincidence. Research ogham language and sites. I firmly believe our ancient past is far more complicated and involved than is generally acknowledged or accepted.
Go to horse creek Julian/ Woodville are Boone county there's petroglyphs on the side of mountain, cool old history in the area as well and friendly folks. Stop at Julian mini mart for best 🌭 lol. Love y'all's videos.
Hey Brother another thing we have in common you dug and buried your Loved ones as well , that's one thing we started doing as far back as I can remember which were my great grandparents funerals we all stuck around and pitched in I was only 2 or 3 yra old but I still remember doing it and buried both of our parents over the last 4 yrs , yea it's hard but it's the right thing to do if you truly Love Your family. God Bless Kyle
In the name of "antiquity" most ended up in the basements of our museums purchased from contractors and government funded. They all wanted EVERYTHING from the native life🇺🇲 its so beautiful out there
I live here in the area, the petroglyphs are imo Celtic, they just don't want to admit it, whether you want to admit it or not, the Celts along with the Nordic's (Vikings) were here 1000's of years ago. I remember the rock when it was above the tunnel, there are more of these type of petro's in Wyoming Co. . Also I worked on the construction of Rt. 119, there were several discoveries made during that time, a team from WVU were called in to document a large fossil field that was unearthed near Fountain Place Mall. I just want to answer some of the comments about why the mound along with some other sites were taken during construction,,,, if you lived here you would understand , sometimes you just have no other choice, in this part of the State, your options for placing a major roadway are few, we live in the most mountainous area of WV, sometimes you have to follow the path of least resistance, flat land is just not in abundance, Rt. 119 is the ONLY major route for transporting goods in the southern part of the State, it's easy to point fingers, but you don't live here, you don't understand.
Leo, I remember in the 1960’s and early 1970’s when we went to Laurel Lake as a family, it was like going to the beach! Hahahahahaha! As a child, we thought we were hundreds of miles from Omar (Logan County) 😂😂😂
You need to contact Shepherds Chapel, Dennis Murray, his dad pastor Arnold Murray was Archaeolgist, he decipher the batt creek stone in Loudoun county Tennessee.
U.S 52 runs by my house in Kingsport. I've road motorcycles across it through my home town of Nickelsville. We would ride it through lebanon to Bluefield and all the way around to Pikeville and then home. What a beautiful ride, and an all day ride.
First of all I have to say I greatly greatly appreciate your videos and all the stories your channel is the only one I watch for great videos of history and I 100 percent agree those people that belong to the West Virginia highway and construction of that highway is no doubt about it some only some of the most disrespectful and law breaking individuals they not only DESICCATED a ancient very very old burial site of the native American Indians of that area by digging up there ancestors and well its a true and positive case of destroying ancient and historical burial site and there history it don't matter if they truly reburied the remains and ancient artifacts nobody will ever know if they truly reburied the remains and ancient artifacts or if the West Virginia highway department pretty much not only disturbed a protected and ancient historical burial site from so long ago and they probably not only DESICCATED a ancient burial site I'm sure they took artifacts and god only knows what they truly did with the individuals buried there in the dirt mound and all the ancient artifacts that was buried there I don't live there I'm from Texas and I wouldn't doubt it that West Virginia highway department not only DESICCATED a ancient burial site a very ancient burial site but they also took the buried native American Indians and the ancient artifacts and did only god knows what with the remains and ancient artifacts West Virginia highway department dessicated a ancient burial site and took the individuals and ancient artifacts or its pretty safe to say West Virginia highway department stole these individuals and artifacts for a highway to be built right in the exact burial site mound they could have made a few changes in the highway construction and left the burial site mound and all ancient artifacts alone But the West Virginia highway department and transportation department had to desiccate that piece of history very very very old history and to build a highway I MEAN they DESICCATED a native American Burial site and everyone knows its absolutely disrespectful and very very bad luck To disturb a native American Burial site really bad luck absolutely pathetic and disrespectful to do that West Virginia highway department and transportation department screwed the native American Indians once again thats messed up and pretty pathetic to tear up a historical burial site and transportation department dont care if they are aloud to do that no telling what other historical sites West Virginia highway department and transportation department destroyed they will one day have to answer for destroying ancient burial site and ancient artifacts they truly should be ashamed of them selves and will have to one day stand before god and be judged for destroying a very old ancient burial site ignorance and pathetic sorry I had to speak my mind on this again thank you Mr Leo for all you and your wife do be safe and blessed and I send thoughts and prayers to you and your wife and family
I wonder if modern researchers maybe overthink some of these non-pictoral style petroglyphs in an effort to give them meaning. As a hunter I could easily imagine these marks as being used as a stationary sharpening station for stone hunting points. Over many years it could look like this.
I think it's funny that they don't want you to touch it but yet where is it sitting? Outside in the weather. No not going to deteriorate in the rain, sleet snow and wind.... 😂😁😂 Good video on Leo's part 🤗
Side note: There are numerous mounds still left untouched in the southern part of the State, thankfully the majority are on private property and the land owners are very protective of them, they do not trust the Smithsonian, but that's another rabbit hole.
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The remains were probably mummies and they didn't want to connect the remains with our tribes because they were not suppose to move them. Thanks for caring
Interesting. So, a late friend of mine, Burl Gilman, was born(in 1934) and raised in Mingo County. He recounted many stories about being there in his later years before he passed. One that he told me, always intrigued me. He told me there was a place called Twelvepole creek he lived near. Once when he was playing up a holler in a creek, he found a rectangular shaped stone, about 2 feet tall or so and almost that in width laying in the creek. He told me it was covered in strange markings chiseled into the stone. He always regretted not going back and reporting what he found. Sure do miss that man and his Mingo Co. childhood tales.
My Dad was from the area around Lenore. Trace Creek to be exact. There was a grove of trees that contained 3 native American grindstones about a hundred yards from his boyhood home. I remember going to look at them when I was a kid. He said that there was a native American village that existed there long ago. He told us it might have been a Mingo village. He also knew the general area of their burial ground.
Was the area of their burial ground common knowledge, or just known to a few people? I would hate to think of it being vandalized.
@@jasonrunyon2663if your dad’s from 27 holler then you’re related to me
@@samuelestepp725 he is. LOL My mamaw still lives there. As well as my Aunt Linda. I lost my Uncle due to covid about 2 years ago. My Mamaw was a Sheppard before she married my Papaw Isom.
@@jasonrunyon2663 My grandmother's grandmother was a Sheppard.🙂
I looked through a bunch of the comments and did not see a one that mentioned Leo's story about digging his own mother's grave. I was deeply touched by that. His cousin Johnny was the only other family member that helped him dig the grave. That is a wonderful thing to do, to dig a grave for someone that you love. I could tell that Leo was very grateful for the help and companionship when the did that for his departed mother. And Leo carries that connection to his cousin Johnny through Johnny's death from covid until today. To some folks that is just a story, but to others it is a tale of deep family connections not only in the hills of West Virginia, but through out history of the entire world. The mound builders did that too.
Those mountains are rich with so much mystery and intrigue. Love your channel 🏔️💙
I work for a preservation group in the U.S., and it’s often surprising to folks that sites on the National Register of Historic Places can still be bulldozed. There aren’t protections in place that can keep that from happening. There’s a review process called “Section 106” where transportation projects have to review their impacts on National Register sites, but often they still move forward with the project. We’re not anti-development but you wish they could find another way to run these roads. Thank you so much for your videos!
Thanks Will
There’s an untouched burial mound in Spangler Wv, it’s on private property, the owners always said you leave the dead alone 👍🏻
My aunt Lucy Sorrell use to live there when the old 52 was in service I use to play on the Indian mound it was right in the middle of her yard I miss the old days. Keep up the great videos you all and god bless ya both
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Used to hunt in Munday WV.....there was a small ridge overlooking 3 hollows and there were old carvings out on a point. As I remember it was broken circles and 3 arrows of different lengths, each pointing to a hollow. It was interesting.
Interesting for sure
Being from Huntington, if I’m not mistaken, there’s a Native American burial mound at the Camden Park amusement park in west Huntington! I can’t remember what Native American group it was from, but I’m almost certain it’s there! Might be something cool to go check out for the channel if you’re ever down the Huntington way!
I believe your right
I've heard many stories from miners and construction workers about things they saw and were told to get rid of it. There was no way the operation was shutting down. There are many wonderous things in WV, much of it on private property and kept secret.
You guys do a fantastic job. You have been so respectful in this video and I know a lot of Native people who appreciate it. You guys are great!
Thank you so much!
Hello from the West, here in Idaho....I discovered your channel recently and love it! The area is so different from my part of the country. You take me places I would never get to see. Thank you so much, Leo and Heather....you're awesome!!
Thanks so much 😁
It's sad that the progress of a road had to move a Indian burial ground. I have heard of these burial mounds before but have not seen a cut away view of one. Interesting carvings on those rocks. Thanks for sharing more history, Leo
These West Virginia hollars will always be mysterious in many ways. Greenbrier Co. here.
We are headed there soon for good ole greenbrier ghost
@@thehillbillyfiles I'll give you a heads up. They paved those back roads going there. And people drive with no sense. Take those blind turns alittle wide. Even way back in the day my grandma when she was in her younger years jumped out of a car as a passenger thinking they were going to be hit by a car. Now mind you that was probably back in the 50s. Don't forget to check out Blue Sulfur Springs. I havnt checked it out since the country worked on it. But they are confederate graves nearby there.
Beautiful land in WV 👀 we got some Nice places to go see in Ky 😳💯👍
We do a lot in Kentucky, we live there as well
All of this history is amazing and wonderful! Thank you so much! ~Sharon from Florida
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Thank you Sir and Ma'am for your videos. Too ill to travel anymore and I am truly grateful for your hard work. God Bless both of you 🙏
I’m from Indiana and we have Mounds State Park with the white river flowing through it near Anderson Indiana. We use to fine lots of clam shells and arrow heads etc... That place is so cool! I hope it haven’t changed. Ill look it up as I plan to go back to see relatives this summer!
Awesome!
Love hearing positive stories of my families state. ❤
Thank you! There certainly are a lot of good things that are not shown here.
It really is sad how our European based culture didn't have any more respect for the cultures of the indigenous peoples that lived in this land tens of thousands of years before the first European settlers arrived. You would have thought that with the mound having been on The National Register of Historic Places, they would have preserved the mound, at least rebury the remains in a place of honor and respect. This is my first of your videos I've seen. I think you did a great job on this. I'm from Southern Ohio and many years ago, I travelled all over Ohio visiting as many of the mound sites around the state as I had time to get to, located both in parks and a few on private land. In various places I lived in Ohio over the years, there were nearby moundworks. Take care in your travels and be Blessed on them.
Wow wow wow. This was really interesting. The research you both do to bring the past to the present is so much appreciated.
It's sad though that the burial mound could not be preserved. To much is being lost for the sake of progress.
Thanks so much 😁
This is a great video . I wish there was something written down as to where the remains were moved to. You would think something would have been written down. Maybe some memorial sign. I am Native American and my ancestors walked the Trail of Tears .
I agree, there should be a record. Maybe it's just not public
May the Great Spirit bless you and yours. I have called the Bureau of Indian Affairs in Washington twice. First, I told them that the Williamson Mound in Ohio was in danger of being leveled. The next time, I told him it was gone. The head of Indian Affairs couldn't help. He blessed me...
It makes me sad and mad at the same time that a 2,000 year old burial mound would just be obliterated.
Me too, James 😢
@@suzybailey-koubti8342 Same here!
Sadly, a !ot was obliterated with the construction of Corridor G, including the land and homes of living people.
@@ElizabethBattle When they built an interstate in my area in the 60's it was the same with homes and farms that had been in families for generations.
Thousands of them where… maybe 100k
I have to admit my chest tightened as I saw this ancient burial mound was removed for the sake of arriving someplace quicker. The petroglyphs are fascinating. Also removed from its original place but at least they are not lost.
It's a shame for sure
Look into the mound inside Camden park as far as I know it's unexcavated far as I know, it's stuck inside the corner of the park by a smoking area
It's sad that I grew up and graduated from chapmanville, we even had a class on WV history but I never knew how many historical places were around the area I grew up. Thank you for preserving history
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I always lament everything I didn’t learn in every history
I live in Northeast Indiana. Your videos are interesting. All the history you show and tell in your video's are absolutely awesome. Love learning about different places I never been. My maternal(the Mull's) side of the family are from Burke, Catawba and Rowan counties in North Carolina.
Awesome! Thank you!
Very interesting, as I've always been keenly interested in ancient sites. Thanks for taking us there.
Glad you enjoyed it
I used to live 8 miles from the WV state line in Maryland. We spent a lot of time in WV. I've lived in Idaho for the past 35 years. We have petroglyphs all over in the West. Some of the marks in this WV stone remind me of what are called sharpening marks. They're like the long, thin marks that you show here.
I was born and raised in WV. I enjoyed your video. I took 52 on my way to visit a relative at Fort Gay, WV.
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The two places you've shared looks like Aztec from when they were here around the time Era that the Egyptians were in the Grand Canyon area.
Great video again! We have several mounds in southern Ohio from the Adena and Hopewell cultures as well. Serpent Mound in Peebles is probably the most impressive, but Chillicothe has a bunch you can visit as well as Fort Hill in Highland County... As a side note, if you ever make it to South Shore in Greenup County Kentucky I'd love to see you do a video on the Indian Head Rock. There was a big fight for custody of it between South Shore and Portsmouth, Ohio after it was rediscovered in the Ohio River.
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The Williamson Mound in southern Ohio was leveled around two years ago. The land in West Chester Ohio is more important as it is for the rich people now. It is owned by Reynolds. the dad of the county auditor.
Pray to the Great Spirit to help us all.
Here in North Texas (but Originally from Southern Miss)
Just found you channel. LOVING IT!! I LOVE History.....especially anything to do with Native American, Civil War, and that era. LOVED the Hatfield information. I have subscribed.
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Once more, GREAT JOB....My Dad told me story of a great aunt, Pocahontas; look in to it from time to time. He also said that Paint Creek up Cabin Creek was named that because the native would take blackberries & paint around a tree to mark it as a place for food..Later
Hi guys! As always find your adventures just awesome! I agree with you it looks more ancient native American! Thank you for saying that about the natives. My husband was Seminole my children are and I have a granddaughter who is lakota. 🤗❤🤗
Very cool and thank you 😊💕
Thank you for taking the time to Share!!! Really enjoyed the information in this video!!!
You are so welcome!
you are doing a great job on showing the history
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I used to visit the South Charleston mound…fascinating!
❤ I love your videos! Thank you. I have my dad watching you now. He is from Crum
Thanks for watching! That's awesome thanks
My gosh, I absolutely love your videos!!!
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I was raised in Louisiana we have Poverty Point there that is dated to 5,000 years ago and mounds around our home in Monroe when I was growing up. They have been protected. I live in Arizona now and have petroglyphs of people, animals and various signs on rocks on my property which I care for by not telling people where they are.
El Mirage, Arizona
Live in West Monroe La know of Poverty Mounds.
It’s probably where they sharpened their bone tools, because it’s hard to nap bone. I lived at Laurel creek when they brought them to the lake. Honestly everyone knew about those rocks and when people are out hunting they would rest under the out crop. Almost all of marks have worn down and a lot have chipped off.
I spoke to Dr.Pyle ( I think that’s how he spelled his name) he was over the move, he also thought it was just bone tool sharpening marks.
That is very interesting! Thanks for sharing. History is my favorite!
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@@thehillbillyfiles I’ve become addicted to your channel. I love everything about it. The laid back easy going atmosphere is truly unique to UA-cam and love it. I’ve got my dad, he’s in his 70’s, watching now. Y’all have a good one. See ya in the next video :).
I enjoy your video. Thank you. I'm native of this area. Although weve all lost so many mounds and sites there are plenty left. Near there is terraformed valley long before that rock was carved someone made 17 huge dams on the Clear Fork river, all the flat land around Oceana is man made!! Wish we could see how the rocks were sitting originally. I'm familiar with writing systems all over the world, that is clearly not ogham. Looks like sized grinding for beads shafts etc. But that's just my opinion from seeing a video. It was in a rock shelter? This grinding takes a long time and it's nice for alot of people to take turns doing it. Well my fellow Appalachian I thank you again for this wonderful work you've done and thank you for being well
Your channel is definitely my favorite one !! I love history....you and your wife would be my favorite teachers. Enstead of deer hunting, you were loafin around 😂
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These mounds are all over the United States. Thank you for showing info about such sacred sites. In Minnesota, towns/ schools/ parks/ historical sites are named: Indian Mounds or Mound.
These places are beautiful remind me of a lot of places in Oregon and Washington.
I can remember when this was going on. I was going to Burch High in Delbarton. There was a lot of people upset about it just for a highway. And as far as Laurel Lake, I caught a lot of trout there. My favorite spot is up at the huckleberry. Thanks for a great trip down memory lane.
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Great vid! I enjoyed this one a lot. I've always wondered about petroglyphs and cave paintings, and the significance of what they were depicting (that we have tendencies to assign religious or deep meaning to, or language), and whether perhaps they had no meaning at all - maybe they were doing just like we do today, except they didn't have spray paint. Maybe that Dingus rock was a place where they marked deer kills, or counted hides like we might scratch a concrete wall. I've always thought that we overthink people and history sometimes - people were the same then as they are now. The important part, is more that it is FROM that time and those people.
Thanks and it's very interesting
I just found your channel today This was so interesting I watched it twice! I’m subscribed and look forward to watching I’m the future.
Thanks, Lynn in Naples FL 😎
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Love what you do wish I could was born in Buchanan an live in NC now I really miss those hills.
I bet
Thanks for the video. So very interesting and never heard of this before. Thanks again.
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Very cool vlog, but you made me nervous at the waterfall and walking on the outside of the fence!!!
This literally made me sick to my stomach. How could they do this? I'm not Native American but we had a dear friend who was the last full blooded Pomo from out here in Northern California. I remember back in the 1970's he took us on a tour to show us his ancestral land and told us the government was trying to claim it to build a dam. He fought it but lost. This story made me think of him and I cried again. This is wrong on so many levels.
Hey guys! Don't be too quick to totally dismiss the ogham theory. Many early missionaries tried to "tame the savage natives". This often included, but was not limited to, not allowing them to speak in their own language, wear traditional NA clothing, removing(or attempting to remove) children from the tribe to "teach" them civility and destroying NA art. These rocks very well could have been beautifully decorated by the early Native Americans but destroyed in the name of Christianity. It's possible (I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination on any of this), depending on when the earliest missionaries arrived in North America and if ogham was still being used at that time. There is a professor at one of the universities that specializes in ogham and it might be worth sending him a photo just to get his opinion. Sorry for the long post. Keep the videos coming. I love seeing what you and Heather come up with next. Try to get Heather to post some good ghost stories.
Wow! The waterfall was beautiful. I love the sound - very soothing. The petroglyphs are fascinating. Sadly the meanings are lost to time. I think they are Native American. I have never heard or read of Irish being in this land that early. Even the Vikings weren't here that early. That mound being destroyed infuriates me. I have a teeny tiny amt of native blood. Even if I didn't the destruction of that mound is appalling & disgusting. Reintering the remains with no marker only adds insult to injury. What in the hell is the matter with people. We seem to have no respect for our ancestors & our history. People in other countries don't behave like that. I just don't get it. Another really excellent video. Leo I saw you get that stick in the face. I'm really glad you didn't get it in the eye maybe you should have a helmet with a face shield.
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There are books written about ogham sites and markings in the US. The ancient Celts kept a syllabary of the variants. It is thought these sites are 2,000 years old or 3,000 years old. The ogham language has no vowels just like ancient Hebrew which is an amazing coincidence. Research ogham language and sites. I firmly believe our ancient past is far more complicated and involved than is generally acknowledged or accepted.
Well done Leo a good video and I agree its going to be Native A,merican on those stones
Love Your Channel. Thanks for showcasing Our Beautiful State.
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Go to horse creek Julian/ Woodville are Boone county there's petroglyphs on the side of mountain, cool old history in the area as well and friendly folks. Stop at Julian mini mart for best 🌭 lol. Love y'all's videos.
Thank you for bringing back history
Hey Brother another thing we have in common you dug and buried your Loved ones as well , that's one thing we started doing as far back as I can remember which were my great grandparents funerals we all stuck around and pitched in I was only 2 or 3 yra old but I still remember doing it and buried both of our parents over the last 4 yrs , yea it's hard but it's the right thing to do if you truly Love Your family.
God Bless
Kyle
Its something most people haven't experienced.
Thank you for posting . I enjoy your channel , good job !
In the name of "antiquity" most ended up in the basements of our museums purchased from contractors and government funded. They all wanted EVERYTHING from the native life🇺🇲 its so beautiful out there
I know Im wondering if they didnt throw the things away..makes me mad they could have moved the highway as not to disturb the mound 😡
I live here in the area, the petroglyphs are imo Celtic, they just don't want to admit it, whether you want to admit it or not, the Celts along with the Nordic's (Vikings) were here 1000's of years ago. I remember the rock when it was above the tunnel, there are more of these type of petro's in Wyoming Co. . Also I worked on the construction of Rt. 119, there were several discoveries made during that time, a team from WVU were called in to document a large fossil field that was unearthed near Fountain Place Mall. I just want to answer some of the comments about why the mound along with some other sites were taken during construction,,,, if you lived here you would understand , sometimes you just have no other choice, in this part of the State, your options for placing a major roadway are few, we live in the most mountainous area of WV, sometimes you have to follow the path of least resistance, flat land is just not in abundance, Rt. 119 is the ONLY major route for transporting goods in the southern part of the State, it's easy to point fingers, but you don't live here, you don't understand.
There was an Adena mound in Boone County West Virginia on Hewitt Creek up Spruce River.
That's amazing. Thanks for sharing
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awww, Thank you! God Bless You
I love this! I really enjoy this channel, W. V. history is amazing!
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Many thanks Leo👋🪶
Leo, I remember in the 1960’s and early 1970’s when we went to Laurel Lake as a family, it was like going to the beach! Hahahahahaha! As a child, we thought we were hundreds of miles from Omar (Logan County) 😂😂😂
Very cool video, Leo! Thanks for sharing with us!
My pleasure!
You need to contact Shepherds Chapel, Dennis Murray, his dad pastor Arnold Murray was Archaeolgist, he decipher the batt creek stone in Loudoun county Tennessee.
Amazing. I wonder if Vikings marked the rocks. But the experts probably checked that out.
That's where I live! Moundsville. My maternal grandfather was born in Julian, Boone County. My maternal grandma was born in Marshall County.
We are coming to Moundsville soon!
@@thehillbillyfiles I can show you around. There are other places you would enjoy that you probably don't know about. ;)
U.S 52 runs by my house in Kingsport. I've road motorcycles across it through my home town of Nickelsville. We would ride it through lebanon to Bluefield and all the way around to Pikeville and then home. What a beautiful ride, and an all day ride.
Very cool!
Interesting history. Thank you
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Took your bow and arrows for a walk. What a way to just be close to God and those who left us behind...
My great grandfather is buried I Madison, he was the first Black person buried in that cemetery.
Thank you very much for the history lesson! Shame about that grave site being obliterated! Thank you very much again, for a great video.
Our pleasure!
Please keep up the awesome history, I'm learning more than I did in school, and I was a Golden Knight ( I guess I knew WV history ).....!!!
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Thanks. Really enjoy the history.
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I love this guy
Thank you for this video. Very interesting. Truly enjoyed watching.
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First of all I have to say I greatly greatly appreciate your videos and all the stories your channel is the only one I watch for great videos of history and I 100 percent agree those people that belong to the West Virginia highway and construction of that highway is no doubt about it some only some of the most disrespectful and law breaking individuals they not only DESICCATED a ancient very very old burial site of the native American Indians of that area by digging up there ancestors and well its a true and positive case of destroying ancient and historical burial site and there history it don't matter if they truly reburied the remains and ancient artifacts nobody will ever know if they truly reburied the remains and ancient artifacts or if the West Virginia highway department pretty much not only disturbed a protected and ancient historical burial site from so long ago and they probably not only DESICCATED a ancient burial site I'm sure they took artifacts and god only knows what they truly did with the individuals buried there in the dirt mound and all the ancient artifacts that was buried there I don't live there I'm from Texas and I wouldn't doubt it that West Virginia highway department not only DESICCATED a ancient burial site a very ancient burial site but they also took the buried native American Indians and the ancient artifacts and did only god knows what with the remains and ancient artifacts West Virginia highway department dessicated a ancient burial site and took the individuals and ancient artifacts or its pretty safe to say West Virginia highway department stole these individuals and artifacts for a highway to be built right in the exact burial site mound they could have made a few changes in the highway construction and left the burial site mound and all ancient artifacts alone But the West Virginia highway department and transportation department had to desiccate that piece of history very very very old history and to build a highway I MEAN they DESICCATED a native American Burial site and everyone knows its absolutely disrespectful and very very bad luck To disturb a native American Burial site really bad luck absolutely pathetic and disrespectful to do that West Virginia highway department and transportation department screwed the native American Indians once again thats messed up and pretty pathetic to tear up a historical burial site and transportation department dont care if they are aloud to do that no telling what other historical sites West Virginia highway department and transportation department destroyed they will one day have to answer for destroying ancient burial site and ancient artifacts they truly should be ashamed of them selves and will have to one day stand before god and be judged for destroying a very old ancient burial site ignorance and pathetic sorry I had to speak my mind on this again thank you Mr Leo for all you and your wife do be safe and blessed and I send thoughts and prayers to you and your wife and family
Thanks so much!
I wonder how long the petroglyphs will survive in its current location vs where it was.
Good question
Great video. Very interesting, thank you.
Thanks Cheryl
I wonder if modern researchers maybe overthink some of these non-pictoral style petroglyphs in an effort to give them meaning. As a hunter I could easily imagine these marks as being used as a stationary sharpening station for stone hunting points. Over many years it could look like this.
May wanna check out the pre historic dam at Smithers... just a suggestion. Great video.
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Yay. Just the Chanel I have been waiting on to post their video.
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I think it's funny that they don't want you to touch it but yet where is it sitting? Outside in the weather. No not going to deteriorate in the rain, sleet snow and wind.... 😂😁😂
Good video on Leo's part 🤗
Ohh yeah 52 Also known around my house as Tolsa Highway.
That’s the mound close to the state road garage.
I am almost certain they would have been reinterred exactly where they were discovered. They are probably now under the highway.
Very possible
You are probably right
Thank you for showing these. Why couldn’t they go around with the high way than take the mound down
My Dad Dennis Workman and his friend / co worker Phillip Parsons are the guys that found these rocks.
Awesome!
They were cutting right aways when they found them.
Side note: There are numerous mounds still left untouched in the southern part of the State, thankfully the majority are on private property and the land owners are very protective of them, they do not trust the Smithsonian, but that's another rabbit hole.
This was very interesting...I love learning all about the Native Americans lives....and liked the name of the lake..lol...
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The remains were probably mummies and they didn't want to connect the remains with our tribes because they were not suppose to move them. Thanks for caring