Live edge Problems... How NOT to do a Live edge Project. pt1
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- The plan was to yank out the old kitchen countertops & install a new live edge top. We wanted a rustic wood look but If there COULD be a problem- we had it. Instead of 7 days it took us 3 weeks, From the wood curling and twisting, to the epoxy having a bad chemical reaction plus more.... In the end it turned out amazing. If your an amateur- this next 3 part series will help you handle all the issues that may come your way.
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I appreciate videos like this. The truth about how things really go. Everyone runs into issues even folks with year of experience. We learn way more from mistakes than victories. So thank you for share it all.
No problem Sarah, thanks for watching!
We learn a lot more from our failures than from our successes. Beautiful work!
I appreciate videos like this. The good; the bad and the fugly
Thanks and I appreciate you watching !
Most people who knit pick others never did much of their own. Looks great.
Can't thank you enough for doing this. Remodeling my kitchen and have my heart set on slab counter tops.
Hope it turns out well and thank you for watching !
Out of this world! Professionally explained on how to do it yourself! Well done guys....
Wire wheel more vintage look!! You guy’s are incredible & your workmanship is state of the art!!! I wanna do a live edge in the bathroom & carve out a sink!!!
Good video I have been doing my own for over 50 years but still like to see others doing this! 👍
Thank you !
Excellent. Mistakes are what make you better. This is where you learn the most. Anyone who never made a mistake never made anything
Stone Coat Countertops sent me to watch this ! 🤠 Thank You Both
I love your honesty. And ALOT OF PEOPLE CAN NOT HANDLE THAT.
Thank you Shane!
That is the MOST Amazing Work, I've ever seen. You're a True Artist.
Don't listen at those people. Even professional can make a huge mistake. People need to realize people needs to learn from mistake. I love what you guys are doing. I'm learning a lot how to make a wood sink from you guys and it's awesome!!
I'm currently doing a river counter with lodge pole pine and white pearl mica pigment. Light burn finish to the to surface with a single "farmhouse" sink undermount. My favorite live edge treatment is actually to use a nylon bristle wheel, it gives even more depth and texture to the wood by pulling out the softest wood from the edge. I wish I could put pictures. I'm very proud of how it's turning out.
I am new at thi but I must say that this is is the best info I have read so far. Thanks to all of you.
This should be a series on the DIY network. I dont know what ever happened to actually showing people how to DIY..
Great work. Nice to see the issues... we all have them.
One of the nicest countertops i ever seen! Sanded live edge
My vote is for sanded live edge.This video was pleasant to watch.Respect.
Thanks for watching Lyubomir!
I like it when people put up showing their mistakes. I want to learn from them and can save me a butt load of money! Yes, I said it! "Butt Load of Money!" Seeing what you did to that kitchen, just blows me away! Amazing work guys!
Appreciate that Kenny, thank you !
Thumbs up on the intro alone!
wow this is beautiful, you guys did a great job.
this isn't a trade
this is art
Thank you very much! 😀
Sanded live edge and awesome work
Thanks Malik!
Not many people out there will tell the world what they did wrong. Kudos to you. Not only is this project amazing and beautiful, you’ve helped a lot of us up our game. What you’ve done here is impressive. Thanks.
That’s beautiful! Your directions are also great. You should have a TV show!
Fun project man...was doing a bit of research on my next project "TV Stand"
Looks really nice, mistakes do happen. BUT nothing that could not be fixed. Really nice wood pieces.
Thanks Laurie, means a lot!
That’s a great video, thanks for sharing it. I’m doing a live edge bathroom vanity for the first time and this will really help.
Thanks Mike, hope it turns out awesome !
Love that wire wheel live edge. Thanks for sharing all your trials and tribulations. The finished product is stunning! 😂🙌🏻
The honesty in all your video's is so refreshing :) thanks for sharing all your tips and tricks. This turned out beautiful! And I gotta say, FRANKIE - YOU ARE AWESOME!!!
you know what? I am barely 2 minutes into this video and now, I totally want to see this video. Why? People always learn the most out of mistakes. And being able to learn off of other peoples mistakes is a great experience. Now I know what to look for. Thanks and now I am excited to watch this video...
That's great Omar and hope that you like the video !
You know what? This was a great video. I enjoyed watching all 3. I really learned a lot from your (franky) mistakes. Keep up the good work buddy.
im a wood worker and boy you melted my heart with beuty of the oak work you used its amazing !! yes im a girl and i am upsest with woods and grains and trees
like my husband says to me im a tree hugger with art in mind !!
Weird videos? Llamas with hats. Best weirdest video series ever.
Hi from Miami. Beautiful job congratulations you doing very good video 👏🇺🇸👍🍻👍
Candy mountain Charlie!!!!
I used to work at a wood-mizer sawmill, and we made a lot of Live Edge tables and benches and shelves. My favorite way is lightly sanded and don't take off all the dark parts of the live-edge leave just enough to give it character. I did most all of my sanding with a random orbit Makita, it did everything I needed it to do. We would sometimes leave the chatter marks from the band saw in the wood on huge rolling interior barn doors for character
oh..my...gawd....i've been putting my saw blade on backwards....no wonder i've been literally burning through the wood...Thank You!
You're welcome, thanks for watching !
A wise man learns from others mistakes
👍
A wise man unplugs the saw before changes blades .
A wiser man learns from his own mistakes
That looks awsome. I watch all your videos. I run a mid size tree bussness and learn so much from your channel. Keep up the good work
Buy that man a couple of decent hand planes.
That's beyond the freaking best , awesome, most beautiful counter top I've ever seen ! Looking forward to the rest of the series. Thumbs up.
Best way for us to learn is by learning from mistakes,it tackles so many questions that the newbie could never know to even ask, so im looking forward to this vid.
Thanks Diana, I hope that you liked the vid!
I like the sanded live edge, and the weirdest video I enjoy is actually a video of a flash animation from way back, its the Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger video. for whatever reason I just love that one.
I have always really liked the look of tables and furniture that looks like the counter top in this video!!!
I have poured well over 1000 gal. of epoxy from most manufacturers onto everything from car dash kits to high end art work. I quickly learned to seal the work first with a scraped first coat. Pour some, scrape it around the work to seal. Give it half an hour and scrape the excess off. Objective is to stop air from migrating up through the wood pores( or anything that might be porous). The second coat will have 95% fewer bubbles. Especially you guys using solid wood. The crap never stops breathing unless you cap it with a seal coat. Yeah, an extra day but worth it. Also don't use the torch to heat the epoxy. It is the CO2 that pops the bubbles, not the heat. This I was told by several formulators. Fast moves with the torch. Too much heat in an area accelerated the cure on top and give you undesirable results from unbalanced cure rates.
Be careful using stains. Done a ton of that too. Oil base must cure, yes cure for like 8 days to gain good adhesion. Ever try alcohol stains? Spray on transparent stains? No blotches with transparent dyes.
Too many bubbles in the mix that you pour? I used to mix A&B on a drill press with a wire coat hanger that had a little loop at the bottom. Very little air mixed in. If you try these tips you will have success and save time and aggravation.
Rich F can you clarify what you mean by “scraped first coat”? Are you saying that you have to do two coats of epoxy? What is scraping?
I use epoxy as a sealer coat as it is excellent as one. I only use enough to cover the work with a thin coat. I let the bubble rise. Every five minutes or so I spritz it with acetone which pops the bubbles. I never use a torch except on final coat and even then I never dwell. It's the CO2 that pops the bubbles, heat is the enemy for obvious reasons. After about 30 minutes or so depending on the wood type and how much air needs to get out, I scrape off the excess leaving very little thickness. If there is a problem requiring sanding it off, I don't have 1/8" of material to burn through.
Yes, on unsealed wood there must be a seal coat. If you don't, bubbles will migrate out of the wood during cure. Some will no move up off the wood, just kinda laying on the surface under the clear, looking like a glass chip. Some bubble will make it into the body of the epoxy looking like, well, a bubble. The rest that make it to the surface you probably popped and popped until the cure stops the bubbles from rising any further.
If you pour onto a sealed surface, the only bubbles you must contend with are those in the mix. They rise rapidly and stop.
@@maverick1552 You nailed it bro.
Listen up people - I know from my own personal experience, over MANY years, that Rich knows EXACTLY what he's talking about. Thanks Rich - you saved me the time to type up the exact same thing. 👍
Thanks Kevin. While I am here I'd like to mention mixing. I used a simple wire coat hanger in a drill. No wide flat spatula type tools. They fold in lots of air. The coat hanfer is looped at the end and provides pretty good mixing energy plus the wire being only 1/16" diameter simply twists in the mix. It does not introduce much air at all yet mixes fully believe it or not. I use the same mixer time after time because as the epoxy cures on it, it provides a little better paddle mixing action. Try it, you won't regret it.
I have found using a fine wire wheel, in the same direction as the grain, produces a more "natural" looking live edge on boards where the bark is not solid enough to fix with epoxy. Sanding just seems to take off too much solid wood. I've never undertaken a project on this scale though. You guys obviously know more than I do.
Wire wheel edge looks great!
Thank you !
I am getting ready to do this buy myself and I am not a wood guy at all!! This has helped me a lot to know some things I am going to do . Thank you. Wish you guys could come help me. I am using white pine with the bark still on. Wish me luck
Thanks for posting this! We are about to start a kitchen the design part of our kitchen remodel, and this has given us a few things to think about.
Awesome, hope your kitchen turns out great!
Big ups to Minnesota!!! Thanks for your videos buddy!!
Thanks Ed!
That is STUNNING.
I NEEDED this video. Excellent.
I'm planning on making a live edge back bar and this will really help.
That was a cool video. Awesome funky music. Loved it!! New fan
Thanks Mark, glad to have you here!
That is absolutely beautiful.
The sanded live edge is beautiful. Nice work guys
Thanks Matt!
My vote is for the wire wheel or sanded edge.
Hey, thanks for letting us learn from your boo boo’s. Just happens to be what I want to do in my house. The wood....not the boo boo’s.
Though I’m sure I will make some mistakes of my own, your vid will help me navigate to a generally better experience. Yay!!!!
That Black Walnut or the maple is my preference. So gorgeous!!!
RED DAWN ..
Love the honesty.. your videos are great as always Stanley
Thanks for taking the time to share!
I appreciate the project, especially the how not to steps. Those can be very helpful to people getting into the trade. I'd have to add adding gallons of gel finish to the slab to the list of things not to do, though. A French polish is a French polish and the effect is perfect for grand pianos and inlays, but a live edge just looks better natural with traditional oil gin and treacle than with a half measure shine. Stay true to the wood.
I should also add to the common disclaimer, wood probably needs more time to cure, as well. For ship timber you're looking at years of drying, I've had to fix well cured hardwood after humidifiers broke during the winter or homeowners overdid the wood fireplace, even butcher block slabs can still cup and twist. Natural edge with softwood and heartwood will move a mile unless you kiln dry it first.
I like the live, live edge.
Thank you for sharing sir. It's an amazing resource to learn from others.
Thank you Matt!
I like both sanded and wire wheel.
those counter tops are beautiful!!
Live edge just the Eurethane Coat would have been my go to. Absolutely loved the creamed coffee color on that wood.
I like the clean Edge and the sanded Edge
The epoxy had a chemical reaction because it was in the pot for too long. The heat couldn't escape while heating up the rest of the material thus making it set even faster.
I've done dozens of epoxy countertops.
Already can't wait for next video. Lol. Love this type of video.
yay a video for me lol in custom work the donts are invaluable
Very cool beautiful project.
Thanks Kennith !
I like that older guy you have working for you. He reminds me of Boomhower from King of the Hill. He is a hell of a worker.
i like all 3 edges. depending on customer at that point and their preference
Keep in mind im a woodworker and we build live edge tables and furniture. Never use a heat gun on epoxy. Also make sure you are using a thin coat epoxy not thick coat which is what we use in river tables. If you are coating bark which I dont recomend you need to make sure no air is between the bark and live edge. Learn to use a jack plane if possible. That will remive those band saw matks and leave a glass smooth flat finished top.
Liked mostly because of the 'Why should I listen to you? Well, don't. I don't care.' attitude. Also, the nice work but that's a bonus.
Thank you !
Well hell, after that challenge, I'm gonna watch it no matter what. 😝
I like the wire wheel edge but they all look really good
I am picky about coloring wood and very picky if there is any fire or figure in the board. I f there is, and that maple looks like it might have some tiger stripe, I think DYE is best. The dance of light is the most beautiful thing in wood for me, and a bad stain job kills this effect, called chatoyance. The light part and the dark part should go back and forth as your eye moves.... the tiger stripe should not simply be a brown line.
Nice job! Rule of thumb is 1 year per inch of thickness for air drying (not out soaking up water and drying under the sun... that’s bad). Forget all the haters trying to play arm chair quarterback. I’ve done this before and what you’ve accomplished represents a LOT of work. Again, great job.
Thank you Thomas!
Look up wood kiln
Wow! Heavy duty man!
Mistakes are where LEARNING comes from... I want to see everything!!
I LOVE mistakes-that's when I learn something I would never have discovered before and I end up doing whatever it is better the next time.
just recently purchased a timbery m280 sawmill. have a lot of white oak and chestnut oak. they r live edge slabs at least 18" wide. i plan on usng the chestnut oak to do the same exact thing. need to put slabs together but once done it will give me more than enough width for counter tops. thanks for showing the failures/mistakes
thank you . yup we all make mistakes i make em . i do learn from other peoples mistakes so a big Thank you
Man that looks good bro! Thanks for the schooling.
Thank you !
I think so much lacker on a beautiful piece of wood I think is an absolute crime against humanity lol. But thanks this was educational, you guys are some loveable goofs yeeehaaaaw
Wow Stan! That is beautiful!
I really want to thank you for putting this video series out. I’m gearing up for my first live edge project and am really intimidated by it because I know things will go wrong. The mistakes you showed and how you guys worked through them really boosted my confidence. Thanks again!
At 15:30--It's got writing on both sides so you can make left hand cuts with it.
I subscribed just for your comment why should we watch you.🤣🤣
Amazing job! You and Frankie do great work!
Thanks!!
Multiple 'wash' coats of alcohol diluted clear shellac (10-15% shellac (85-90 % alcohol) ) can take out the last of any 'washboard' from milling .(apply very liberally and overbrush many times to saturate open rough wood with a higher amount of shellac seal and bring entire surface to same absorption rate) This can be light sanded easily and prevent any grain raising in finish coatings .
High gloss 3-4 coats then final in gloss, semi or satin for greatest durability . If any grain fill is needed, shellac wash again to set stain in filler and prevent 'bleed' into clear coating finish. (this also eliminates any worry of compatibility of stain/or filler with poly finish .)
Classic finishing I used on many projects that 50 years later still look great. (first ones, of coarse, were varnish coated )
"We wanted a rustic wood look" so we got plastic
I love your videos and advice keep up the good work
I have black walnut live edge bar top that is about 3 years old now and the moisture in the house has made it start to cup in spots. I have 6 coats of clear poly on the top and edges but nothing on the bottom.
Great work Stan! I like the wire wheel live edge myself.
Bill Nye spits fire
WE NEED PART 2 DAMMIT!
Sanded live edge looks nice.
the sanded live edge looks best then the squared off edge.... I'm ready for the next video... I'm doing a live edge bar and want to see what not to do... lol thanks
Franky hands look like they got into a fight with a meat grinder and won! Tough smart hardworking dude right there.
Agreed 👍
Frankie's the man!!
Yeah. I'm a Franky fan. Love that guy. Hard working and thorough.
Love WOOD working ART
WOW 😮 IT IS VERY NICE JOB