Intro/Band Overview 00:00 Fake Train 9:59 New Plastic Ideas 20:01 The Future of What 27:17 Unwound 36:35 Repetition 42:14 Challenge for a Civilized Society 50:31 Leaves Turn Inside You 1:01:07 Outro 1:14:47
So awesome you did unwound. Thank you. Fake train is one of my favorite albums ever. The comparison to Drive Like Jehu is spot on. The first Jehu album in particular.
I've been hoping that you'd make this episode! First Rapeman and then this, all that has to happen now is for you guys to put out a Neurosis episode in the near future and I'll start to suspect that you're reading my mind. Thanks for all the podcasts. You're some swell dudes :)
Unwound is my favorite band and I'm beyond psyched for next year's reunion tour. It's so great to hear knowledgeable people gush about Unwound, about Leaves Turn Inside You, and about Sarah Lund's drumming. Something about her playing just clicks with my ADHD-riddled brain in a way that nothing else in the world does. To me, when that drumming weaves together with Vern's apocalyptic baselines and Justin's ear for both noise and tunes. . . they're untouchable. That said, I'm glad that you guys acknowledge the lack of tightness on Fake Train (which a lot of fans don't seem to talk about). Their live recordings are sometimes tighter than the albums, and this is especially true of Fake Train -- when I listen to any of those tracks, I typically go to a live recording like the Peel session version of Kantina.
So here are my thoughts after watching his: 1:02:07 "one of the worst produced songs on the album" I HIGHLY disagree. The vocals sound fucking fantastic and perfectly complement the overall sound of the song, the drums sound amazing and the interlocking guitars are mixed so well. The overall production of this album is incredible. Btw, yeah Justin might not be technically great at singing but that really doesn't matter to me at all. His voice in every Unwound album is one of the main reasons I love Unwound so much. I did have a lot of other disagreements from your guys' comments on every album you discussed here but really this is all subjective so it is what it is. Besides all of that I'm glad one of you gave props to Future of What (my favorite Unwound album). Every fucking song on that album is god tier and I'm glad you pointed out that the filler tracks aren't technically part of the album (although even if they were it would still be my favorite Unwound album). Petals Like Bricks is just fucking insanely awesome Also, I did wish you talked a little bit more about Lady Elect but that's just because it's my favorite Unwound song haha.
Can't believe that yall didn't mention the track "Lady Elect" when discussing Repetition. Maybe the most emotionally moving song they ever recorded. Genuinely haunting, despondent, and resigned guitar riffs. Makes the record my second favorite behind Leaves for sure.
Arguably the best band of the Nineties, in that their entire career was mostly contained in that decade and lasted as long. I feel like you guys would refine your takes if you spent time with these albums. It was also so different back when they were active and we would anticipate the next Unwound album. You guys just binged their discography, which is a lot to take in. Their consistency and musical evolution was something to behold. I don’t agree with your opinion about their openers; while not always being their best songs, they’re always intense, driving and catchy, setting the sonic tone for the respective albums. I was inspired to do something similar to the break and spaced jam from “Side Effects of Being Tired” with a song I wrote for the first album I did with my old band. I love that bit.
The reason they don’t sound like most other post hardcore bands is because Justin approached his guitar playing in a more post punk way, not hardcore punk. More like Gang of Four.
Also my superlatives rq (Not counting their first demo s/t album) Best: Leaves Turn Inside You PF: New Plastic Ideas Worst: challenge for a civilized society LF: Fake Train
This band was absolutely so seminal for me and my taste in music. I was given a mix tape by my older sister’s best friend in around 1998 that had Corpse Pose on it among other amazing stuff I’d never heard of (the Make-Up, Getaway Car, Team Dresch, Polvo). I was 14 or 15 at the time and I had never heard anything like it. That tape basically turned me into a punk immediately. Unwound remains my platonic ideal of what a band should sound like.
If the missing Apple track is the first 5 minutes of the first song on Leaves Turn, you’re missing nothing. I got the promo CD because it cuts that off and keeps all the songs on one cd. And yes, all those great Indie Rock bands know each other, from meeting a few and hearing a few stories, hearing name drops on bootlegs…
There's lyrical themes running throughout most of these albums. I'm surprised you didnt discuss that, especially with The Future of What and the extra tracks being part of it and "Who Cares?" playing after "Below the Salt". I'm just so happy you guys loved these albums as much as you did. Unwound my GOATs.
Who wants to tell him Unwound and Fugazi were only 2 years apart and that the kids in unwound were making music well before that? I would not say Unwound was influenced by Fugazi. Sonic Youth? Perhaps.
Would definitely consider covering Women. Curious already. Also, holy crap. Her being your drum teacher is wild. But her being your landlord is the wackiest thing I've heard all day. Love it.
I felt like that for a long time but it has really grown on me. Same thing with The Future Of What. It's basically Leaves being the best and the rest of their discog tied for second. Lol
Intro/Band Overview 00:00
Fake Train 9:59
New Plastic Ideas 20:01
The Future of What 27:17
Unwound 36:35
Repetition 42:14
Challenge for a Civilized Society 50:31
Leaves Turn Inside You 1:01:07
Outro 1:14:47
One of the best from this era. One of the best of all time tbh
So awesome you did unwound. Thank you. Fake train is one of my favorite albums ever. The comparison to Drive Like Jehu is spot on. The first Jehu album in particular.
guys you heard about unwound's reunion tour??? They got Jared Warren to play bass in place of Vern (RIP), they're touring 2023-2024
the future of what is one of my fav by unwound
I've been hoping that you'd make this episode! First Rapeman and then this, all that has to happen now is for you guys to put out a Neurosis episode in the near future and I'll start to suspect that you're reading my mind.
Thanks for all the podcasts. You're some swell dudes :)
Unwound is my favorite band and I'm beyond psyched for next year's reunion tour. It's so great to hear knowledgeable people gush about Unwound, about Leaves Turn Inside You, and about Sarah Lund's drumming. Something about her playing just clicks with my ADHD-riddled brain in a way that nothing else in the world does. To me, when that drumming weaves together with Vern's apocalyptic baselines and Justin's ear for both noise and tunes. . . they're untouchable.
That said, I'm glad that you guys acknowledge the lack of tightness on Fake Train (which a lot of fans don't seem to talk about). Their live recordings are sometimes tighter than the albums, and this is especially true of Fake Train -- when I listen to any of those tracks, I typically go to a live recording like the Peel session version of Kantina.
So here are my thoughts after watching his:
1:02:07 "one of the worst produced songs on the album"
I HIGHLY disagree. The vocals sound fucking fantastic and perfectly complement the overall sound of the song, the drums sound amazing and the interlocking guitars are mixed so well. The overall production of this album is incredible.
Btw, yeah Justin might not be technically great at singing but that really doesn't matter to me at all. His voice in every Unwound album is one of the main reasons I love Unwound so much.
I did have a lot of other disagreements from your guys' comments on every album you discussed here but really this is all subjective so it is what it is.
Besides all of that I'm glad one of you gave props to Future of What (my favorite Unwound album). Every fucking song on that album is god tier and I'm glad you pointed out that the filler tracks aren't technically part of the album (although even if they were it would still be my favorite Unwound album). Petals Like Bricks is just fucking insanely awesome
Also, I did wish you talked a little bit more about Lady Elect but that's just because it's my favorite Unwound song haha.
cheers brother. you are a precious soul. i hope things go in your way.
RIP Vern
Can't believe that yall didn't mention the track "Lady Elect" when discussing Repetition. Maybe the most emotionally moving song they ever recorded. Genuinely haunting, despondent, and resigned guitar riffs. Makes the record my second favorite behind Leaves for sure.
Oh shit, I've been sleeping on this band. Another I've been aware of for a long time but never checked out. Until now.
Dawg my birthday's in three days this rules
Best 25 bucks I’ve ever spent in my life thank y’all so much. Also recommend checking out “A singles history” by them
Thank you doing this
this was so fun man, first time listener and I really enjoyed it. unwound is a great fucking band.
Arguably the best band of the Nineties, in that their entire career was mostly contained in that decade and lasted as long.
I feel like you guys would refine your takes if you spent time with these albums. It was also so different back when they were active and we would anticipate the next Unwound album. You guys just binged their discography, which is a lot to take in. Their consistency and musical evolution was something to behold.
I don’t agree with your opinion about their openers; while not always being their best songs, they’re always intense, driving and catchy, setting the sonic tone for the respective albums.
I was inspired to do something similar to the break and spaced jam from “Side Effects of Being Tired” with a song I wrote for the first album I did with my old band. I love that bit.
EQUALLY STUPID IS INDEED FUCKING BRILLIANT
The reason they don’t sound like most other post hardcore bands is because Justin approached his guitar playing in a more post punk way, not hardcore punk. More like Gang of Four.
No problem y’all 👍. Super pumped for this episode.
Imma legit live react to this episode down here in the comments. Sorry in advance
Also Sara Lund = one of the best post hardcore drummers of all time
Also my superlatives rq
(Not counting their first demo s/t album)
Best: Leaves Turn Inside You
PF: New Plastic Ideas
Worst: challenge for a civilized society
LF: Fake Train
Last half of Fake Train falls down a cliff
Definitely siding with Alex a lot more so far
Those Fake Train takes were INSANE to me. And Dragnalus is a better opener than Entirely Different Matters. lol
saw them like twelve times
our generation’s Sonic Youth.
they toured together!!
I saw them with Brainiac in fayetteville arkansas 95
That's the coolest thing I've ever heard
This band was absolutely so seminal for me and my taste in music. I was given a mix tape by my older sister’s best friend in around 1998 that had Corpse Pose on it among other amazing stuff I’d never heard of (the Make-Up, Getaway Car, Team Dresch, Polvo). I was 14 or 15 at the time and I had never heard anything like it. That tape basically turned me into a punk immediately. Unwound remains my platonic ideal of what a band should sound like.
If the missing Apple track is the first 5 minutes of the first song on Leaves Turn, you’re missing nothing. I got the promo CD because it cuts that off and keeps all the songs on one cd. And yes, all those great Indie Rock bands know each other, from meeting a few and hearing a few stories, hearing name drops on bootlegs…
From Tumwater, not Olympia and that’s actually an important point believe it or not.
great band
You guys saying demons sing love song should be cut is mad, genuinely one of my favourite songs oat
Mike nailed it. ‘Challenge’ best album ‘future of’ personal favorite. -some guy
A singles history!
but they did get back together....and i saw them in seattle!
Swan is epic what's wrong with you 2?
Off this century is #1
There's lyrical themes running throughout most of these albums. I'm surprised you didnt discuss that, especially with The Future of What and the extra tracks being part of it and "Who Cares?" playing after "Below the Salt". I'm just so happy you guys loved these albums as much as you did. Unwound my GOATs.
I heard the song “Corpse Pose” in some forgettable Netflix series. I’d never heard of them before that, but I like it!
Who wants to tell him Unwound and Fugazi were only 2 years apart and that the kids in unwound were making music well before that? I would not say Unwound was influenced by Fugazi. Sonic Youth? Perhaps.
Maybe Minor Threat. I could see that.
challenge over leaves is such a strange choice to me
also would you guys consider doing the calgary band Women
+sara is my drumteacher and landlord and she is the coolest
Would definitely consider covering Women. Curious already. Also, holy crap. Her being your drum teacher is wild. But her being your landlord is the wackiest thing I've heard all day. Love it.
I've seen that before. Music is so subjective but anything besides Fake Train or Repetition ahead of Leaves is a little crazy.
@@garrettlemieux4620 what the fuck broooooo
ALL HIGHS
Well hey, I found the OTHER person that thinks Challenge is their best one.besides me!
Unwound's entire library is awesome. This said, Chalenged for a Civilized Society is kind of week in comparison.
I felt like that for a long time but it has really grown on me. Same thing with The Future Of What. It's basically Leaves being the best and the rest of their discog tied for second. Lol
Do Insane Clown Posse!