The “Devas” and “Asuras” in Hinduism - What They Really Were
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To my knowledge Indra dev is not a particular dev. Its a post, a position, a chair.
Yes. Even I've heard that.
Yes, Lord Vishnu appoints.
You are right Sir , The first Indra was actually Lord Varuna who got dethroned by Vrata
yes u r right
Yes. You're right
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Yesss
Yesss!!!
Yes please
Conspiracy theorist
Bring Praveen Mohan (he does a lot of interesting videos on ancient India, Temples, and Hinduism.)
Sad most of the ancient civilizations and cultures have been wiped out of this planet.
More saddening is that the precious knowledge accumulated over thousand of years was burnt and destroyed.
This..
And also mistranslated and misinterpreted as myths
Amazing conversation... thank you so much for inviting him
So much of vedic culture and it's influence was lost to history unfortunately. In any case, interesting to learn knowledge as it is.
If you see all the place names with Dan in their name you begin to wonder if Europeans were the Danavas. Celts worshipped the “Tuatha de Danann” which means “People of the Goddess Danu”. Just so happens Danu is the mother of the Danavas in the Rig Veda. Both knew her to be a river goddess. This is why you see many rivers (Don, Danube, Dneiper etc.) named after her, not to mention place names like Denmark etc. Danavas were Asuras. The Germanic tribes worshipped the Aesir which is literally cognate with Asura. Then even weirder Danava means a serpent or a dragon which just so happens to be the symbol of the Tribe of Dan in the Bible.
Yeah, Danvas were probably the Aryans who migrated much later than the Devas (the Aryans who migrated first in South Asia).
Celtic are so recent documented people , the actual danava are danuna people ( who lived in Adana turkey)
,Danuna or danu people ( sea people) invaded Egyptians and hence they were documents about 1,400bce
@Speardenmajority of Germanic people have origin in sea people or sea related myth of them
Sea people were ancestors to Germanic or many Nordic people ( danuna ,danava ,denyen , tribe of dan or simply sea people )
@@extreme4642danavas were clearly of non aryan origin.
@@dushyant_duttNo they were also Aryans and were step brothers of Devas and Asuras.
Correct. The persian copy of Veda is called Avesta. They are sister religions.
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Ravan ke Nana who was Asur Australia se the, many flower name , if you see in Sanskrit, it refers to aboriginal language of Australia
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This is end phase of dwapar yuga ranveer see sadhguru video.
Being Kuber and Ravana siblings and sons of Vishrav and princess Kaikesi, why as per Purana, Kuber is Deva and Ravana an Asura ??!!
Never thought that 🤔
Kuber followed Father's footsteps. Ravana followed Father's footsteps and also, his maternal grand father and uncle trained him virtues of ashuras.
In fact Ravana was conceived with a plan to defeat Lord Vishnu.
Because kuber's mother was vishrav's first wife they weren't siblings they were half siblings
Because of their behaviour
@reva48758 # True ! In Royal Family system, the children of First Queen is recognized as successors of King.
Similarly in Vedic era the children of First Wife is called Sura and Children of rest wife is called Asura .
If you go to thailand there will be Demons with armor or something like that, but I never knew why exactly.
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This is cool and I am sorry to tell this I am an asura but that doesn't meant I am fully bad right
me too, I am actually alakshmi
@@amrita1762 can you elaborate
@@thekingleoc1864 I am an asura associated with misfortune etc in the ancient texts however they have done a bad job at describing me total negative etc
@Amrita yes they have described us real bad but they don't know who we are
@@thekingleoc1864 truee
Asurs are the native peoples of india . Vedic people use to call them asura/demon . You can see that in ramayan discribing lankan people as demon/asura. Later vadic peoples will accept them but they will sarve the socity as low cast.
West Asian call themselves asur
While Iranian call their god asura
Sumerian god is also called ashur
Assyrians ( anglonized term ) originally= Aššur people call themselves offspring of God ashur
Not Indians
yes
Ok agreed then tell me where did these Vedic people come from?
My ancestor were asura as myself shudra. We lost war with aryans and history were written by aryans thats why call us asur. I m proud that my ancestor was asur like (Rahu,ketu,bali etc) .
Well how asur become your ancestors they just mythology. why caste system add with it
Your ancestors were rakshahs not asurs since you are a shudra probably from southern and central India.
Asurs were ancient Iranians, while rakshahsas were indigenous Indians.
@@amrita1762 I am talking about Prem not you.
@@amrita1762Indian cannot be asur
Asur are Assyrians people ( Aššur )
Their own documents mentioned they tried to invade India and failed
Read about "indo Assyrian battle"
@prem4489 go google assur Semiramis invasion in India
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In rig ved Indra Agni Varun and other gods are know as Asuras and demon are called Danavas but in later Vedic era it change complete to opposite gods are know as dev and demon are know as asuras
It will not sound childish to you when you get there.
In Hindu Epics, it is noticed that those who follow Lord Vishnu are referred as Deva and those who follow Siva are Asura.
=》》 In Ramayana, Ravana was follower of Siva and his brother Kuber was follower of Vishnu.
=》》 Again in Mahavarata though Pandu and Dhritarashtra are siblings; Pandu's family, Pandava were supported by Lord Krishna (incarnate of Vishnu ) where Dhritarastra's family, Kaurava were follower of Omnism. Because Dhritarashtra's wife, Gandhari was from Gandhara (present day Afghanistan). Gandhara also said to be one of the names of Lord Shiva!!
It is all about Vishnu (Hari) and Shiva (Hara) !!
This actually would not be the accurate observation:
In Ramayan Goddess Sita was the one who was in deep devotion of goddess Parvati and lord Shiva, her entire clan of Mithila worshipped lord Shiva.
Lord Ram paid his tributes to/ worshipped Lord Shiva, you will find Rameshwaram temple which was established by lord Ram For Lord Shiva.
Tarini the demon/ son of Ravana worshipped Lord Vishnu.
In Mahabharat we find Arjun following Lord Krishna and doing penance to please Lord Shiva.
All hundred sons of Dhritrashtra were born from a boon of Lord Shiva true but Kururashtra (Bhism and others) worshipped Lord Shiva. Bhisma's guru Lord Parshuram also worships lord Shiva.
The thing is that Lord Shiva is Kul dev of all Demons, Gods, Serpents, Ghosts and every living creature regardless of their deeds but since Lord Vishnu is the one that imparts justice while in his different avatars they become his enemies naturally.
@@multiverse6989 # I just raised this to know how one becomes Deva and other Asura within the Siblings ! Similarly Demon, Gods, Serpents, Ghost etc as well.
Sometimes, sequences of the past resembles with the current situation like, India being a strategic Partner of USA can buy S-400, Oil from Russia, whereas Pakistan being an old Partner of USA can't buy anything from Russia.
esa kuch bhi nhi hai. The devotee of Lord vishu whose name was Gaya, is also considered as Asur, same goes to Prahlad. As well as kumbhkarn. While the devotee ganas are not considered asurs. And we cannot forget vishnu himself is devotee of shiva. he is not considered as Asur.
@@anugyayadav4666 # My query was how two brothers of same parents can become one DEVA and other ASURA !!
Kya bekaar ki baat kr rhe ho 😂
We today have a earth full of asuras
XDDDD
Ranveer alabadia
Sanatan is real history😊
Adiatyas to be exact. Love you
Facts Here, Ashuras Are Assyrians, PERIOD! 🔥
Robin from peepals farm pls pls pls he is an angel and we all agree
Dear Sir, what / who are Vanars? Where are they now?
MAHAVISHNU vs SADASHIVA (differences)
I hardly recommend a show name Devilman Crybaby
Ranveer Bhai please see this
you will love the perpective
3:40 haha very well said ji.
Fun Fact Devas also called Suras.
The 'Titans' are the Asuras in European culture.
Nope they are gods in European Culture , aesir gods are asur race
Odin is all fathe of aesir god
Vedic name of sukracharya ( asur guru ) is usana , Odin is one eyed
Those who study Purana knows usana / sukracharya is one eyed
Usnana Enmity with Visnu and devats in Hinduism , Odin enmity with vanir gods
These guys have never studied
Tocharians
Tuatha de Danann
Danu
Celts
Assyrians
Scythians
Hebrews
Jai shree Ram
In our tribal religion ; asur was also devta.we talks about 12 asur.they were king and founder of metals in stone-age .Asur is still alive.nowadays they treated as Tribe of India .Your vedic scriptures are fake about asur.Asur means powerfull peoples.Asur is native of india.
Bring Praveen mohan Please
Only one dhrma Sanatan dharma 🙏
Praveen Mohan ❤️
Sir pls next video in Hindi language
Bring PARVEEN MOHAN on your podcast.
I won't call them cousin I will call them step brothers and sister
Get Praveen Mohan
Pls bring Praveenmohan
Guess the number of times he said 'nuance'
So davas left and ashuras still live under the ground. This is why we see UFO - ASHURAS
We want Praveen mohan
Helloo 😇⭐
Bring Praveen Mohan
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Devas were Indians and Asuras mainly were middle easterners. Some Southern Indians and Sri Lankans were included in the list!
Don't try to spread misinformation 🤣
Who is Asura Dad?
bro try to do some important topics in hindi coz many cant understand the strong words you use its quite difficult for uthers to understand and specially when the topics are related to religion and imp topics so that mass can understand it clearly .
Hindi mai podcast hona chahiye bhai..
but how is that related to bobs and vergana?
pls bring praveen mohan
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I am...an asura
You have complicated the simple things because you are living in the world of books.
Don't define them by birth they are asuras and devas.(Only the stupid or bookish people can define that way).
What is the difference between Rama and Ravana?
Two of them have great powers.
One uses it in right way or other uses it in wrong way.
THE SIGNIFIER IS NOT THE SIGNIFIED.
Please 🙏 understand that signified.
We only knows about signifiers.
Try to understand the signified.
Bali is painted as good. Rape, sexual atrocities and such were a given for all the asuras from Bali to Ravana, however nice they might have been in other things
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Waise to boht galti nikal sakta hu bt comment lamba ho jayega "Shurpnakha" means "Sharp nails" English word sharp came from the Sanskrit word shurp Yaar trs mein jo bhi log aate hai wo ekdum murkh hote hai aur sabse bara murkh hota hai ranveer khud kyunki wo in logo ko bulata hai aur baithke sunta bhi hai inko kuch pata hi nahi hota sorry if i be little harsh on my language
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Yeh aadmi mahishaasur ko ek Devta bata raha hai 😂😂😂 lagta hai yeh banda hai what's app university ka topper
Cousins like Greek gods?
Yesss
Asuras = Ancient Iranians
Devas = Northwest Indians
Rakshasas = Central and Southern Indian tribals.
Rakshasas mostly North Indian race , who were cannibals
South Indian are tribal were yaksha race
@@greaterbharat4175 South Indians tribals were Rakshasas not Yakshas. Don't spread false information here if you don't have any knowledge. The Yaksha was a Himalayan tribe. Their king, Kubera, is said to live in Himalayas.
@@extreme4642 tribal never called rakshasa
Tribal were mentioned just non Vedic gotra of bharat vanshi people ,gond were called gondvanshi ( by middle age they assimilated in kshatriya population ( rajgonds )
vast majority kshatriya -gond( rajgonds ) accepted Islam due to political benefits during Mughal era due to this they lost their Hindu kshatriya glorification )
Bhil were called bhilvanshi , saharia tribal were called sabhari people ( related to ramayan sabhari woman )
No tribals are called rakshasa
@@greaterbharat4175 It was Central and South Indians (who were predominantly tribals back then) who were called Rakshasas by Aryans.
Do research on nephilims
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Why do we Indians continue to mispronounce Sanskrit terms?
Why do we mimick foreigners and prefer to mispronounce 'Deva' as 'Devā' _(देव को देवा),_ 'Asura' as 'Asurā' _(असुर को असुरा),_ 'Rām' as 'Rāmā' _(राम को रामा),_ 'Purāna' as 'Purānā' _(पुराण को पुराणा),_ 'Ganesha' as 'Ganeshā' _(गणेश को गनेशा),_ 'Buddha' as 'Buddhā' _(बुद्ध को बुद्धा)_ ....... so on and so forth (and of course 'Bharata' as 'Bharatā ie. भरत को भरता!!)!!?
Isn't it similar to an educated Englishman pronouncing England as Englandā _(इंगलैण्डा),_ Jesus Christ as Jesusā Christā _(जीज़ज़ा क्राइस्टा),_ Angels as Angelās _(एन्जलास्),_ God as Godā _(गॉडा),_ Charles as Charlsā _(चार्ल्सा),_ 'Peter' as 'Peterā' _(),_ John as Johnā _(जॉना),_ 'Paul' as 'Paulā' _(पॉऽला),_ ......... - you get the drift.
It is even more disappointing to see supposedly "learned" and purported "experts" mock the very foundation of Sanskrit itself which puts such immense importance to 'correct pronunciation' _(शुद्ध उच्चारण)_ that it cannot be stressed more _[ so that you don't end up addressing your own ie. 'svajan' (स्वजन) dogs ie. 'shvajan' (श्वजन') ]_
wtf is "devas" & "asuras"???
isnt it just Dev & Asur (in plurel)
as word "lord" will be just "lord" not "lordas"
and why they doing this with every sanskrit word like...
shiva, arjuna, ashoka. these all are names so they might not be changed after plurel or language translation.
Ranveer will be just ranveer not "Ranveera"
Chilla Utsuva Parekha, ita isa nota biga dela.
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Alright
Two things:
1) Please for God sake stop calling Asura a race or a tribe. Sur means divine and Asur means simply non-divine, according to Vedic sources. They all, Suras and Asuras, just belonged to one race called demigods. So, please stop telling this bullshit like "there were good asuras, bad asuras" because, literally all asuras were bad.
In addition, it's Adaityas and Daityas who were related. Prahalad was a Daitya and not Asur. Mahabali was a Daitya and Asura because he despised the Devas, who were God's benevolent demigods and, no he wasn't good either. I seriously don't know when did malayalis started worshipping him during Onam, it's Vamana jayanti. 🤦🏻♂️
2) No, Central Asians were not "mongolic" originally. They looked like something similar to our Jaats who are considered to be related to Hittite nomads through genetic studies. It's was Chengis Khan and his barbaric army who's responsible for giving "mongolic" features to present day Central Asians.
In addition, the Mitanis were also Hittite nomads who eventually arose to power by subjugating the native semites. Their beliefs were not Indian or Hindu to be specific, but it's quite apparent that they did share the Vedic origin just like present day Hinduism.
You are saying exactly what the western world says and the guest on this show is trying to get rid of the western influence of devil and angel.
Simple meanings you have make it complicated.
Dev: They were good by their deeds and mind.
Asur: They were bad by their deeds and mind.
Nobody born as Asura or Deva.
Don't define them by birth they are asuras and devas.(Only the stupid or bookish people can define that way).
What is the difference between Rama and Ravana?
Two of them have great powers.
One uses it in right way or other uses it in wrong way.
THE SIGNIFIER IS NOT THE SIGNIFIED.
@@pratikdwivedi7024
Only at the second part of my comment I'm telling what the latest research finds.
Trust me, I keep the scriptures above everything at all times.
I have no where conformed to the ideals of Abrahamic beliefs. Scriptures do talk about set of evil beings who are hungry for power and try to defy the laws of nature.
In addition, he's not busting any western propaganda. He's simply making things complicated through anthropology. He says, "Asuras are cousins of Deva with another set of beliefs", to which I reply yes and no, some Asuras are related to Devas but it just happens to be. There are many Asuras who are not related to Devas.
@@WebFreakingMan
Dude I'm literally telling what you're telling 🤦🏻♂️
@@realsrvbhtngr I am not talking about you 🙏.
I was talking about the video and some other comments.
Neo-Hinduism, bro.
I just hate your intro..
Its E'diiii...
kuchh bhi bol reha bhai ye.
Native Dravidians are considered as Asurans by Aryans who had this way of seeing people.
There is no aryan invasion theory
@@runajain5773 who told. Read sarvarkar. Arayan with light skin came here. Is it a migration or invasion is debatable.
@@Nirmalcb it could be migration but how Dravidian considered asuras which aryan in North all people are mixed skin colour there is no white colour
@@runajain5773 ofcourse north people have fair skin than most south. present generation is a beautiful mix of These races. Considering people asura and deva is a view existed before mostly from outside and as per that Dravidian/ tamil might been considered as the Asura.
@@Nirmalcbold books , scientifically proven white skin mutation is Neolithic in origin ( to Europeans )
It Neolithic west Asian people who have white skin mutation "a111T" in Europe
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Bhai kbhi Hindi bhi bol liya kr Teri Puri audience Indians hi hai Ye show off kyo krta hai
MITRA is an aspect of Lord SuryaDev! Please dont obfuscate truth
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