Simon Jordan REACTS To Old Firm Derby 'AWAY FANS' Being RULED OUT Of Two Matches In The SPFL! 😡🔥
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- TalkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan debate if away fans should be allowed to attend Old Firm Derby in the league this season.
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It's actually a pretty simple story.
Both clubs agreed to carry out work on their stadiums in order to make it safe for 2,500 (roughly) away fans to get in and out of both grounds safely.
One club (Celtic) has completed those works
The other club (rangers) hasn't even applied for planning permission yet.
I'm getting sick of "I wish both clubs would just get together and sort it out...." They DID get together in February and the agreement reached was made public in March. Celtic have since carried out the work required and rangers have not.
That's it. It's as simple as that
100% but you are not allowed to hold rangers accountable for anything it seems.
Thank you Sir. Sanity prevails. One club complied. The other didn't. That's all there is to it.
The game at Ibrox is five months away so it’s a bit daft to throw the toys out the pram because they haven’t got it sorted yet.
Celtic should’ve allowed 3k fans in as was the agreement (which they’ve gone against) and then if Rangers didn’t for the Ibrox game then they don’t give tickets for the final game in March. Simple as that. Doubt it would’ve come to that though.
It’s a load of tit for tat nonsense. Both sides not wanting to meet in the middle. Celtic pretending it’s a Rangers problem when they are very much part of it.
@matthewmclister5492 I think the underlying truth here that gers fans are missing and should be more worrying for them than allocations. Technically, there is still time for the safety work to be done with game months away .
Why then have rangers board been unable to give assurances to the celtic board that safety works will be completed in time? Probably means no commitment either that ibrox itself will be ready to open by then for any fans. Instead of grumbling about celtic why don't they question their own club as to why assurances can't and clearly haven't be given ?
@@matthewmclister5492 They haven't even applied for planning permission yet.
Celtic have met the criteria but the other half of the Glasgow derby could not give assurances that they can or will meet the safety standards. I know Rangers are a young club, less than 15 years old, and are acting like petulant children.
@@eugdee7293 just the sort of age you Jungle Jim’s are interested in
Simons point works theoretically, but that’s not how the SPFL operates. Ross County couldn’t fulfil a fixture twice last season because the pitch wasn’t playable, they were fined, Rangers pitch isn’t playable now and won’t be for the next few months and what did they get? They got the red carpet rolled out for them at Hampden and zero sanctions. Why would Celtic allow fans in when they now it won’t happen the other way around and there’ll be no punishment for it?
Dundee
Ya raging TERRY MUNRO 🤪🤣🇬🇧✊🏼🇬🇧
I'm a Celtic fan but I can see the difference in a club not being able to fulfill a fixture, and the situation rangers are in, they were able to give notice and it isn't sudden or abrupt. There is a big difference In this situation and the Ross county/Dundee games
Ceptic were in hampden for a year in 95 ya dollywobber🤣🤣🤣
@@delboy6364That flag is done f.u.d 🤬
Celtic spend hundreds of thousands upgrading celtic Park for that mobs return they've done zilch as per so the blames on them. We've had bottle batteries piss thrown at our fans whilst staff being injured in the dugout area not to mention broken bottles left in the goalie area so it's simple tell ranjurz to do their part & it's all sorted.
Deduct points if missiles get fired that would fix this problem.
🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🇬🇧✊🏼🇬🇧
Walk to the beggar’s bowl 2 hrs before kickoff so the unwashed can’t throw bottles 😏 ya rent bhoy🇬🇧✊🏼🇬🇧
@@delboy6364 The fuk? U wake up excited this morning weeman. Imagine calling yer stadium the begging bowl ffs a mean we know yer skint but come on & yer fellow dobs the unwashed some fan u are.
@@alexmcintyre6353 That's harsh they hardly get points as is.😂
Celtic park is ready to go, ipox not so much, this lays at the feet of one club
Ranger can’t provide their own fans a seat allocation at Ibrox right now 😂😂
Right now the first game is at pork heed.
So the laughing emoji makes you a daft fecker.
@@audreyhall8644 good news is it’s expected to be ready for your next champions league game
@@audreyhall8644Rangers = laughing emoji fc
@@Cornwall1888 your champions league will be as embarassing as your last one.
Fecking up the co efficient
@@audreyhall8644 could be worse we could be rangers and have the worst group stage performance ever, 0 points 22 goals conceded 😂😂
This all started after Celtic dominating the old firms and winning titles end off discussion
Totally agree
Started when the SNP gained power
Started wen eddy started the 10 man party trick hh huns couldn't handle 8k celtic fans party in their stadium while they on way home tae batter the mrs
Nah it started after Celtic lost the 10 and have been salty ever since
@@andrewstewart7277 it started years before that, don't be silly now
The SPFL will do nothing just like they did nothing when The Rangers were fed up getting beat at Crumble Dome and spat the dummy out banning all Celtic fans. But I agree if the SPFL decide to grow a pair and act on the negligence of The Rangers for not meeting the safety measures that had been agreed then a massive fine or possible point reduction should be fully implemented. Then and only then should Celtic agree to allowing The Rangers back in. I for one want this Glasgow Derby back to being the best there is and you only get that with the fans of both clubs at the game.
Rangers have a venue it’s called Hampden. So why should we get points deducted exactly.? I seem to remember Celtic played a full season at Hampden.
@janice506 It looks like you will to. Not looking good, that asbestos will take awhile to remove.
Celtic have met the requirements. But don't let facts get in the way of your biased garbage
100% correct. Celtic put time effort and money into getting things right. rangers didnt. They dont give a feck. Celtic feel they cant let the huns in or it makes them look weak. Personally I would let them in to embarras them even more as its only Scottish football which suffers
I don’t want pae do harbouring supporters at Ibrox
Mi872 you have them among you mate. The young girl sxually assaulted at dens.... ignore it tho dummy. Sing god save the kimg knowing his bro is a pdo. O the irony
@@BJK1690neely’s victims are chapping your door🤡
Celtic are as much of a problem as Rangers. It’s a load of tit for tat nonsense which Celtic very much partaking in.
Who is this old firm? Old co rangers died in 2012 liquidated in 2012 re surfaced as Sevco holdings limited. The Glasgow derby is the correct term.
Selic athletic international football club 🤪🤣😂🇬🇧 mccann sold u out 🤑🤣😂🤣🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🇬🇧✊🏼🇬🇧
Celtic never even went into administration nevermind liquidation tho, all our bills were paid , can you say the same thing about rangers 😃✊🍀🇮🇪
Been no old firm since 1994 we want nothing to to do with your vile horrible club the shame of Scottish football who destroyed kids
the reason is celtic put up all the safety stuff up rangers cant so that is why celtic backed out.
know the facts before you start talking
Its pretty simple. Rangers don’t have a stadium to enter any agreement. Celtic once again bent over backwards to accommodate and the poorly run rangers football club has failed again. Not only celtic this time but their own fans with every fixture
How is Hampden not safe enough for Celtic ?
@@janice506 its not every game being played there. Its also not the same 50/50 split. Also the missiles being thrown at celtic staff and fans require netting. Rangers would have to pay for that and they put no wheels in motion for hampden or ibrox like they agreed. Celtic done everything agreed upon
Jim you know whos fault it is. Rangers started it, and renaged on years old agreements. Remember Murray done it, on his own volution. Now lookat it all clubs are cutting their noses of to spite their faces. there was a rangers end and celtic end for a reason, they housed the fans. thanks again rangers.
Why you claiming Hampden it’s a safe stadium.?
It was Dave king who cut the allocation. David Murray was long gone before the allocations got cut
@Jag-ro2om Murray banned celtic fans, for alledgedly damaging toilets. john collins ruined his party with his predator boots. Murray was the first to try and be the big I AM. long before just celebrating goals and wins became an issue. So they have a history trying to dictate events. Only this time it has backfired tremendously on the bigot element.
Rangers died in 2012. There is no old firm derby anymore.
Why you wanting tickets for 12 year old club then? Oh 12 years old. Just the age you lot like them.
Only to Rangers haters there is no old firm….. tiny minds.
@mccoll78 because its the same horrible fans that we hate
@@Darren.ftk. If its not same club. Not same Derby then what's the issue of not having same allocation? I don't miss having a fanbase that's own club has to tell then to wash.
Complaining about not getting the “historic” allocation and then claiming Rangers are a new club. Make your mind up man 😂
Where is the dummy that said Jim was a Celtic fan?! 🤣🤡
He's actually said himself he's of a Rangers persuasion.
@@mountkadath he’s never said anything near pro Celtic…grew up watching him on Scots tv never knew it was even a dispute! 🤣
@@celticsole7542 Oh yeah, he hates us with a passion.
😊No, this is not a magnanimous decision for celtic to take. rangers should be sactioned but the SPFL wont attack their club. Simple. its rangers fault end of and jim white knows the problem. but his glasses dont tdo reasonability. give rangers an advantage after rangers sought to gain an advantage by starting all of this.
Old firm is dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣 season is ours . Get that 40 mil into the Fukin bank 🎉🎉🎉🎉🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪☘️☘️☘️☘️
It's not been old firm for few yrs it's simply a Glasgow Derby with both being pathetic about not allowing away fans. It's the fans that make it a old firm
That's why septic trademarked the name old firm then ffs 😂😂😂😂😂
@KINGMONKEY1989 think your missing the point 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
Speak to rangers
@@georgeralston5658 110% correct
Not supporting either side, but banning sectarian songs definitely affected the atmosphere. Hopefully, when away fans are allowed in each ground on derby days things will be better but still won’t recreate the old days
I’m not being a child but rangers started it. Pretty sure they cut our allocation from 7000 to 700 because we were annihilating on the park, so they decided to play off the park and cut our tickets. So Celtic followed, now no fans at all. Both Celtic and rangers need to get a grip of themselves. I completely agree with one of the callers, Celtic shouldn’t care and just give them the tickets, show and prove we’re the bigger club😂
Celtic dont need to get a grip of anything. Celtic are protecting their fans. Rangers cant guarantee Celtic fans/players safety, they don't even have a functioning stadium.
Being a child get’s u bugggered by the beast’s at the beggars bowl😬🇬🇧
@@felixfene0nrangers can't even guarantee the safety of their own fans from each other, remember they were killing each other last year at ibrox after Celtic bet them 😂🇮🇪
If you can't guarantee the safety of broadcasters covering the game for TV, how can you guarantee the safety of away fans?
I love how a load of english people pretending to be Celtic fans and a english business man and a rangers fan as radio host are on the radio saying that Celtic need to just sort this and nobody gives any responsibility to rangers😂😂😂 absolute helmets
This is entirely rangers fault please read the fine details .. rangers have not complied with agreements plans made in march this year …
It’s not a minority Simon get your facts right ,Celtic back room staff faced a barrage of mis iles one being seriously injured hence they asked for safety guarantees non forth comeing I might add
Tbf though, wouldn’t have happened if they didn’t support celtic
It happens in the reverse. That's intense rivalry. That's a weak argument. Or at the very least 1 sided. I'll ask you, would you rather have a sizeable chuck of opposition fans or none? Maybe I'm an old man. Even if you are youngsters, I bet you love the games at hampden with 50/50.
@@5oclockhero542I’m a youngster and we don’t all have this guys opinion. It’s a joke that away fans aren’t allowed. I’m a Celtic fan and I dig Celtic out as much as I do with rangers. Really need to get a grip of themselves. I’d love to go to ibrox away and I’m sure there’s opposite fans who think the same about Celtic away. Such an amazing experience is being taken from fans.
What was the serious injury?
And Jim White likes to cry on and on about English football hooligans. We don't have anything like this in England anymore.
Nothing to do with fan behaviour. It's because The Rangers couldn't handle Celtic pumping them at their own midden on a regular basis 😎🍀
lol couple year ago Celtic could not bet rangers and lost there ten in row kick Lennon out because rangers where pumping use every game 😂😂 swings in circles 😂🎉🇬🇧
There’s no such thing as a old firm one is a new club just Google 20.12. And educate yourself
Read that grammatical monstrosity one more time and consider who needs an education
Don’t talk pish Google and everyone else says we’re still the same club. 🤫
@@josephdocherty5977 Have a read of that grammatical monstrosity one more time and consider who needs an education.
@@bananahammock9119..,.,., poor grammar 🤣🤪🤣🤪🇬🇧
Duck duck go say’s Selic athletic club is the cover up for catholics buggery🇬🇧
Celtic spent a condiderable amount making away section safe the same has not been reciprocated si they hsve nade considerable attemps do get your facts right Simon😢😢
OMG Simon Jordan talks pish,he has no idea what he is talking about, the Rangers started this by cutting Celtics allocation and that the Rangers can't guarantee Celtic fans safety,also the amount of damage caused when they visit our ground .
Rangers started all this, they refused to give Celtic fans tickets stating they could fill the stadium with their own fans, they they came to agreement and Celtic spent 10s thousands getting the area ready for away fans, and Rangers did nothing they agreed on. So stop blaming Celtic for everything that is 100% Rangers driven.
Fan safety is paramount. I’ve enjoyed the games without away fans
Can we talk about the FACT rangers started this because they got sick of us celebrating scudding them in their own ground, no more no less...
Rangers as a club top to bottom are a joke , everyone genuinely finds them totally ridiculous.
Rangers are running scared
No away fans at Glasgow derby , safety first , we don’t need thum at Celtic park the atmosphere is bangin wi out thum 👮🏻♂️
@stephenwalker850 exactly look after our own people first we don't need them : they need us
TREBLE IS COMING
No it’s not, it’s dead ffs
To be fair it was rangers who started to ban Celtic away fans. They couldn’t take Celtic celebrating in the broomloan stand every time they come to ibrox. Rangers lapped it up when they were winning 9 in a row in the 90s, Celtic continued to let their fans get their allocation. Celtic have a period of success and the teddy bears couldn’t handle it. So they cut the allocation
“Nonthense”
There's only one team in this operating at the highest level. It's a matter of safety as, in it's current state, Ibrox is not safe for 800 Celtic fans. Would be easier to have 7500 at each, however, Rangers were sick of Celtic fans having a party there twice a season
This subject came up a good few times on this show and not once was it mentioned that rangers instegated this whole ordeal
Water is wet..
Simon Jordan: let me tell you how you are wrong...
Rangers started all of this when they couldn't accept that Celtic were Beating them and Celebrating at Ibrox.
Glasgow Rangers the scum of the Earth!
Celtic footballs shame no Rangers who are getting taken to court for sexual abuse is it Pervco
@@BJK1690 You haven't heard about Neely the Peado Coach for Rangers.
Every Rangers fan says the same.
Embarrassing.
I feel sorry for your Momma 🤣🇮🇪
@@BJK1690typical me me me sevco attitude,David Wilson is 100% correct and everyone knows it even the manky mob it’s not our fault ,couldn’t handle defeat then and still can’t now , weird thing is you really should be used to it by now 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀 COYBIG
All that bile from a kiddie fiddler,numpty
@@BJK1690you seem to comment alot about abuse like obsessed...
Can’t keep there coins in there pockets .too busy flinging them with the bottles etc🍀🍀🍀🍀
Why do you keep referring to both Rangers and Celtic not meeting the required safety requirements? Celtic obtained planning permission and carried out the required work in relation to the away fan allocation that had been agreed with Rangers. There is only 1 club that have not kept their end of the deal.. Rangers. Try doing a little bit of research before commenting on something you clearly have no idea about.
The criteria was met was met for ibrox and celtic Park but now ranger's REFUSE to get the criteria for hamden simple as that ranger's at fault AGAIN
rangers cant guarabtee where they be playing ffs
Wait n see if they have william hill badges on there shirts this season when playing league games like every other team or will it be like cinch
Simon you obviously dont understand that the sfa dont sanction rangers so what do other clubs do
The "reasonable amount of fans" was written into the old rules
It's now it has to be 5% but there was a certain club that couldn't guarantee seats
So is it OK to get a coin in the head by a rangers fan no... why should I go to a game to get hurt...
Let them in, there's no better feeling when we pump The Rangers in front if their own fans! The Brendan Rodgers era 2.0 is coming! Invincible! 🇮🇪🏴
think as a rangers fan its fair to criticise the board, they're not behaving like buiness men who are capable of running a football club in the best interest of the fans who lets not forget, make the club what it is. They behave like petuliant children unable to see the big picture, the cinch sponsership row was an embarrassment and this is an embarrassment, I don't care who's to blame but its not hard to accept it may well be us and if it is then its a disgrace. If netting is what the disagreement is about then sort it, install it, take a loan out to buy it if needed, behaviour like this does nothing but damage the fixture, and lets be honest, we really don't need uneccesary spotlights flashed in our direction at the moment ffs.
Born in 85 & being a Celtic season book holder since 1995/96 season when the stadium reopened & my opinion is that this fixture just isn’t as good without the away supporters , the spectacle & colour of this once great fixture has gone but hopefully it’s sorted for the last 2 Derbys in the spring as 2.000 fans is a great amount as I can’t see it going back to pre 2018 ☘️☘️
Think the security thing is because of the bottles thrown by the rangers fans (physio got bottled , Joe Hart found glass in the area), also the fact that they don't know if it will be Hampden (which is more than likely and is less of a security risk) or Ibrox.
Since rangers entered the top flight in summer of 2016:
There were 4 games at ibrox where Celtic had the full allocation of away fans. rangers record was Played 4 - W0 D0 L4
Rangers then introduced the "no away fans" (or just a few hundred) policy. Their record in the league under those circumstances is Played 9 - W4 D2 L3
There was also one season (2020/21) where no fans of either club were in the stadium and rangers' record was Played 3 - W3
So maybe they should ban their own fans also!
Imagine being a Rangers player walking into Celtic Park chockablock full of Celtic fans.
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Not having away fans at the Old Firm has totally devalued the fixture. So has having very small away crowds. That visceral atmosphere - that only having a large away crowd provides - is what made that match so special. There should be at least 5,000 away fans.
Never let facts get in the way of clickbait by low-level journalism and broadcast.
Jordan hit the nail on the head, small minded individuals on the Rangers board caused this, lost the league sponsorship. Let's hope they get liquidated again, but this time for good YWAL
We hammered Rangers for a decade and they finally got sick of seeing a whole stand celebrating title after title. So they chucked the toys out the pram. This is a precedent set by Rangers pride and ego.
i might be wrong, didn't this start when Rangers sold season tickets in the Broomloan Road Stand for the first time when Gerrard arrived so Celtic would not get the 7k allocation again and just 700 in the corner?
I’m not getting this. If ibrox is not ready in time then the game goes on at Hamden . So why is health and safety an issue.
Let's call a spade a spade and Let's call rangers senco. Their is the problem. Think about it.
going to make no odds .. Celtic will still win all the games
As a gers fan i can honestly say i dont blame celtic here they done their side of the deal we haven't so they pulled out... we dont even know when were getting into ibrox our boards a joke... the ties dead without both fans but safety first, the old firm has turned nasty a few times over its history
Simon Jordan desperately trying not to blame Sevco
If the SPFL fine The Rangers it will be another nail in their coffin. The SPFL know this and aren’t willing to do it.
I'm a Rangers fan, but all of this is our club's fault. We're a mess of a club these days. The Banter Years just go on and on.
Absolute nonsense. There are no 'old firm' games since 2012.
If Sevco never spat the dummy cause we kept pumping them on their own turf, this would never of happened, we all know who is to blame
It gets more embarrassing year on year. When will it ever stop?
When sfa stop pandering to rangers and hold them accountable. Sanction them for not having stadium ready with agreed safety works completed .
Never really notice the Celtic fans not been at ibrox till someone mentions it. I have a great day win lose or draw. Love it
Its simple, rangers said no more Celtic fans because we were beating them 4 nil regularly and Celtic done the same back so its in rangers intrest to sort it....they wanna start to split tickets now because they are repairing the stadium and playing in hamden
When Celtic used to outsing them with the full Broomloan we enjoyed it too much. 😂
You have no away fans at River vs Boca? So what is the issue with the Glasgow Derby having no fans??
It’s tit for that pathetic mess that been going on for years football wise (my dad was a catholic season ticket holder at ibrox who had his season ticket revoked in 1983 after being reported for being a catholic) and decades prior to that filtering through Scottish culture going back hundreds of years.
That being said: the first club of the old firm that says “enough is enough, if the other side want to do that we are not being that petty” wins the moral high ground forever.
But as had always been and probably always will one doesn’t want to let the other get one up on the other even at the detriment to themselves.
Celtic are not stupid, the official bodies in Scotland are not going to sanction The rangers for their inability to meet standards. The same bodies allowed The old rangers to have an anti-catholic agenda for over 100 years. If Celtic were to give The rangers their allocation in September , then The rangers recent history suggests they would try and use that to their advantage or renege on the agreement as they have done repeatedly since their inception in 2012. Celtic are protecting their fans and their name...sometimes the adult in the room has to discipline the spoiled child to lead them to take the correct actions.
The guy bringing up that it looks sectarian got cut off rather sharpish there haha!
why should celtic givs gers an advantage to them by have them kn stadium !!!
Does Corey the rangers fan remember they started the no away fans at the Glasgow derby games?
Saves 100k of damage at every game
No Zombies in Paradise. Keep them out💯💚🍀
Celtic did the requirements Rangers haven't, they're not even in their own stadium for beginning of the season
Graham sourness started this why isn't he not in studio? He cut allocationfor celtic from 7.500 to 800 cause celtic kept winning at poobox
Many teams and leagues around Europe have little or no away fans
Nets won’t stop them tearing out the toilets again. They wrecked Celtic park’s facilities
Rangers couldn’t deal with Celtic fans celebrating at ibrox all the time. Simple as
It was one of Jordan’s country man that started this !
They are not doing the sanction because it would only apply to the new establishment club!
Jim White loves to bang on about "English football violence", but at least in England supporters can be trusted to attend rival games without all the violence and hatred which has forced Scottish football into this mess. Why can't these Scottish fans be trusted to attend away matches against their biggest rivals? This situation hasn't come about from nothing has it, Jimbo lad.
You English can’t talk about anyone else when it comes to football hooligans you’re animals ffs
july walks made it for you jim
No away fans kills it
Who exactly started this? Who made the decision to cut the allocation and why I know the answer if you’re going to talk about it perhaps you should start by asking this.
Rangers?? 😂😂😂😂😂
Celtic 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
I see Celtic has a new
supporters club in Wales
named after some Welshman could
Edwards has been on the news a lot recently.
he is one of your own
he is one of your own
Edwards is one of your own it's the Celtic way.
@@alanfox691 at least they've won the European Cup aka the Champions League. Rangers can't even beat Celtic 🤣.
Such a 🔔🔚 club.
HATE SPEECH !!!!
IS THE WAY THEY CAN BAN ALL FANS !!!!
IT’S AGAINST THE LAW !!!!!
Rangers need to face a fine/points deduction for breaking a binding agreement. (Again). SPFL won't sanction them though.
Firstly there is no longer any such thing as "The Old Firm" that died in 2012 as did Rangers FC.
The club now in existance that are The Rangers are categorically untrustworthy. Celtic have met the safety requirements. The Rangers have not and will use it for any sporting or in their case unsporting advantage they can get. The Rangers caused this and it's up to them to correct it.
You think simon would have realised with Rangers what to expect , there in more courts than andy Murray they don’t do things that they say they will .
Oh dear, poor sevco 😂😂😂
The Ghost of Chick Young lives on...
Was it also the fact they had no money so they sold all the season tickets to get money in to bail them out
It's because Rangers can't guarantee what stadium we will be play them in
Why is this guy giving an opinion when he doesn't care about Scottish football and knows nothing about which he talks. Last week he said he watches Scottish football from a distance like through a telescope. He hates Scottish football so please don't ask him again.
Sky provide a scant amount, however , it's due to the OF games and each others games. StMirren v St Johnstone is not cutting it. Both teams should seriously stop this tittle tattle and realise their standing in the future of Scottish football.