The International 2022: A Production Failure

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  • Опубліковано 31 жов 2022
  • The International 2022, brought to you by PGL & Valve.
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  • @gramozeka8829
    @gramozeka8829 Рік тому +516

    Slacks was right when spoke before TI, about it being experimental. Valve decided to experiment with TI production being shit.

    • @phanthaihoa
      @phanthaihoa Рік тому +38

      nah. PGL production have always been shit quality. Nothing experimental here

    • @ashlike270
      @ashlike270 Рік тому +3

      @@phanthaihoa sarcasm

    • @tfredrick01
      @tfredrick01 Рік тому +12

      slacks would get on his knees for anyone with a paycheck

    • @Havok0159
      @Havok0159 Рік тому +9

      You'd think they'd remember the last time it was shit since they remembered to unban James, ban which coincided with firing a production team due to a legendarily shit production.

    • @Absolute_Zero7
      @Absolute_Zero7 Рік тому +1

      @@phanthaihoa Honestly, this isn't true. Way back in 2016, PGL was arguably the GOAT when it came to producing large tournaments. Specifically, their work running The Manila Major that June was absolutely fantastic. There are many elements we take for granted in mordern Dota tournament production that was started by PGL here, most notably rather than the raw Hero Select Screen, they created the idea of keeping hero select as a bar at the bottom of the screen. In fact, The PGL Major was so much better produced than the other 2 majors that year, I think that's the reason why Valve chose to partner up with PGL, and had them run both of the Majors in the 2017-2018 Season, as well as all of the future TIs. I also don't think it's a coincidence that it's widely considered to be the best non-TI tournament in Dota 2 history.
      That being said, it's obvious that the PGL of 2016/17 isn't the PGL as today. Their quality has absolutely nosedived, and they are a shell of their former self, yet Valve keeps sticking with them. I think it's a sign we need more competition when it comes to running TI.

  • @Anibal744
    @Anibal744 Рік тому +61

    I'm really happy the PGL audio guy kept his job after his work at the csgo major

  • @fritziebaby23
    @fritziebaby23 Рік тому +256

    The most epic is the time lapse of English stream .

    • @brotato654
      @brotato654 Рік тому +27

      nah bro we got glimpsed for like 5 minutes to the past

    • @nicolasbourbaki3124
      @nicolasbourbaki3124 Рік тому +9

      longest replay of my life

    • @Doomroar
      @Doomroar Рік тому +5

      We has to see Ember being stuck in that cliff 3 times! 4 counting the replay of the replay 🤣

    • @FoxSullivan
      @FoxSullivan Рік тому

      The spanish stream had the same issue tho. Idk about the others.

    • @lokanantazain
      @lokanantazain Рік тому +2

      And it was in Grand Final 🤣🤣🤣😭

  • @yanni100
    @yanni100 Рік тому +817

    I hope PGL doesn't produce TI ever again

    • @YZZ505
      @YZZ505 Рік тому +32

      Do you know? PGL held TI every year no one sound the production issues back then so they seem fine just not this year doe

    • @raultanjr
      @raultanjr Рік тому +65

      @@YZZ505 be careful with your facts mate. People are on the pgl hate bandwagon right now.

    • @CssHDmonster
      @CssHDmonster Рік тому +15

      i hope PGL doesnt produce a major ever again

    • @bilbof4854
      @bilbof4854 Рік тому +15

      csgo fans be like : first time ?

    • @kiro253
      @kiro253 Рік тому +5

      Chill its just this year..wtf they are human too ppl make mistake

  • @VitaKey
    @VitaKey Рік тому +161

    You know the event was a failure when you can make an 11min video on production failures. Also the bit where Avo says trust me, don't worry, they will give me a sign is monumental.

    • @sararas2370
      @sararas2370 Рік тому

      tikrai juokinga

    • @flayv999
      @flayv999 Рік тому

      8 minutes in i remembered this is ONE TOURNAMENT

  • @GinkgoPete
    @GinkgoPete Рік тому +63

    WePlay should have a run at it. The animajor stage is still the most gorgeous set ive ever seen in any esports event.

  • @56ur4
    @56ur4 Рік тому +382

    2GD is back and so are the Shanghai Major shenanigans

    • @ameame32
      @ameame32 Рік тому +26

      Slacks warned us that TI11 would be shit coz valve is trying out to remake the shanghai shitshow again which is why 2GD is back

    • @gotivanmomak
      @gotivanmomak Рік тому +3

      2gd did good! Not hes fault for sure

    • @reinoldgaming9780
      @reinoldgaming9780 Рік тому +4

      @@gotivanmomak u sure? every time he is on cast there are problems when he is absent no problems Hmmmm

    • @ameame32
      @ameame32 Рік тому +7

      @@gotivanmomak He did a really great job but... His presence just mean... Production is shiet like shanghai shitshow
      Just like how Kyle curses the teams he supported before Tundra

    • @eksen7221
      @eksen7221 Рік тому

      ​@@reinoldgaming9780 lmao your logic 😂

  • @failgamerful
    @failgamerful Рік тому +97

    I thought Shanghai Major was the worst production we got but apparently PGL is trying their best to top it with this TI.

  • @azhar1094
    @azhar1094 Рік тому +139

    Based slappy with the great content as always. This video serves as kind of a callout to Valve, so hope it blows up and gets you the recognition you deserve for all your other videos

  • @Necroneer
    @Necroneer Рік тому +131

    Such an important event and they fuck it up this badly.

    • @FLLAable
      @FLLAable Рік тому +8

      hololive shitposter watches dota pog

    • @abbc5156
      @abbc5156 Рік тому

      @@FLLAable I mean I see a lot of hololive avatars in dota

    • @ExploreCHINA616
      @ExploreCHINA616 Рік тому +1

      if you think about it, if they managed to fuck it up this badly with proper funding, its clearly not important to them anymore, more like a chore to get over with you know.

    • @jason9336
      @jason9336 Рік тому

      ti final sucked so nothing matters in the end

    • @hichew1021
      @hichew1021 Рік тому

      @@ExploreCHINA616 proper funding? It's gambling sponsor TI they would cut cost in anyway 🤣

  • @worldunderfire_
    @worldunderfire_ Рік тому +24

    a nice insight, as always thank you sir slappybag9

  • @UncleHein7
    @UncleHein7 Рік тому +18

    Bro IDK what we would do without you, thanks for amazing content always MR Slappy

  • @czarnylfernando17
    @czarnylfernando17 Рік тому +8

    the worst is the players hearing the smoke of deceit sound effects and even the casters. that shit can turn the games upside down

  • @johnlorenz8032
    @johnlorenz8032 Рік тому +40

    I hope ESL, WePlay and even BLAST should host more dota events in the future.

  • @trashcustrashford9001
    @trashcustrashford9001 Рік тому +25

    Seeing a replay within a replay in the finals tilted me

  • @nihalsarambalkar6566
    @nihalsarambalkar6566 Рік тому +50

    i hope slappybag9 gets the subscribers he truly deserves

  • @tiffanylovelovelove
    @tiffanylovelovelove Рік тому +46

    This level of failure is brand-destroying. Absolutely humiliating

  • @Pabloproteinbar
    @Pabloproteinbar Рік тому +8

    Can't stress enough how important this video is to the betterment of dota. Keep sharing this shit

  • @kafkaergens9270
    @kafkaergens9270 Рік тому +18

    best part was when I had to go to the portugese channel in grand final because production decided to time walk to 10mins ago…

  • @bounphithakphithak6949
    @bounphithakphithak6949 Рік тому +12

    Bulldog laugh is so good lmfao, got me everytime 2:18

  • @azyx5849
    @azyx5849 Рік тому +3

    "trust me they'll give me a sign when it starts" LMAO

  • @ameame32
    @ameame32 Рік тому +20

    Telling Synderen to type gg makes this TI scripted man I love the fails video after a shitshow

    • @nick1752
      @nick1752 Рік тому +1

      I can't get over it, why they even did that.

    • @wolf34501
      @wolf34501 Рік тому +2

      @@nick1752 chat was literally spaming residentsleeper + it was over the time for the next game

  • @leonlang2505
    @leonlang2505 Рік тому +50

    weplay should get to host ti at some point, animajor was the best-produced esports event ive ever seen

    • @keeptryingtop
      @keeptryingtop Рік тому +6

      Valve did not even listen to them, and gave the next dpc season to a Russian bookmaker BetBoom. That Weplay, that the BTSummit remained out of work precisely because someone in Valve really wants to cooperate with Russia

    • @kurfurst6465
      @kurfurst6465 Рік тому

      @@keeptryingtop xpI0KHu

    • @keeptryingtop
      @keeptryingtop Рік тому

      @@kurfurst6465 pogavkay rusnya

    • @yokisullivan8647
      @yokisullivan8647 Рік тому +1

      for weebs, yes it was the best.

    • @Gigi-zr6hp
      @Gigi-zr6hp Рік тому +1

      ​@@yokisullivan8647and for normal players PGL is the best one Valve can provide? Especially TI? No wonder Riot is winning

  • @vaudevillevillainnn
    @vaudevillevillainnn Рік тому +11

    No way this production failure stretches to 11 mins💀 Valve, you gotta reconsider on letting PGL handle massive tourneys..

  • @Banannawontsplit
    @Banannawontsplit Рік тому +4

    It was so brutal having to sit through a $2 production value TI, the only time the matches were at a good time for me to watch as a New Zealander too. Most of the battlepass won't even go to DPC either. Really hope Volvo step up their game from here.

  • @patpatatyoutube8588
    @patpatatyoutube8588 Рік тому +1

    Ohhh wow, another video thank you sir!

  • @aslanthinkohkaew8511
    @aslanthinkohkaew8511 Рік тому +4

    I can see the 2GD curse at play here 🤣

  • @Pepsimaximo1
    @Pepsimaximo1 Рік тому +9

    5:15 "are you done" i fkn died watching that live

    • @nick1752
      @nick1752 Рік тому +1

      ngl that was kinda mean...

    • @YY-mk4ti
      @YY-mk4ti Рік тому

      AJHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I can't

  • @Elf1492
    @Elf1492 Рік тому +20

    And somehow Gabe didn't fire the production like what happened back in Shanghai 2016?

  • @exp1245
    @exp1245 Рік тому +3

    i did not see the flashbang lmao wish i was there for that. actually pgl should produce 1 more so i can see it live

  • @manserizawa2327
    @manserizawa2327 Рік тому +63

    I believe Singapore was too expensive which is why only the main stage got the TI treatment while the rest felt like a mobile game tournament (no soundproofing etc)

    • @anthonylee512
      @anthonylee512 Рік тому +39

      Too expensive? Tf? They literally pocketed the COVID TI money and never did anything with it, they def have the money

    • @robwintermoon3279
      @robwintermoon3279 Рік тому +11

      PGL employee?? Lol we had lag and glitches at TI grand Finals my guy!

    • @caspian1004w
      @caspian1004w Рік тому

      Agree! No Soundprooffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @JButterZJ
      @JButterZJ Рік тому +12

      There was No Booth in the final also tho. And they have betting sponsors

    • @rapzyz
      @rapzyz Рік тому

      not even the minimum TI treatment

  • @supertilapia
    @supertilapia Рік тому +5

    This was a disastrous TI this year. Just the production. I don't really know why they aren't in a sound proof booth with those headsets. That's one of the things I was concerned of

    • @scarletvan4749
      @scarletvan4749 Рік тому

      perhaps they saw that Riot doesn't use booths in its Worlds (cmiiw), so Valve decided to try it as well and failed miserably.

  • @Hjortur95
    @Hjortur95 Рік тому +2

    i watched the 12 hour streams on youtube the day after and they had no issues
    group stages were gigascuffed but main event wasnt at all on my end. idk how they fixed it the day after

  • @Anon13378
    @Anon13378 Рік тому +14

    And if anyone else is watching, its happening in the Rio CSGO Major, 1 game was delayed for so long because of server issues

    • @kaze6237
      @kaze6237 Рік тому

      typical PGL even in Stockholm

    • @KenkenL
      @KenkenL Рік тому

      Rio is hosted by ESL tho

  • @Racers03
    @Racers03 Рік тому +1

    This is painful and hilarious at the same time

  • @mecazor
    @mecazor Рік тому

    oh no no no no, this is going to be good KEKW ICANT

  • @Cg-jo4sh
    @Cg-jo4sh Рік тому +4

    Remember, STREAM CRASHED DURING THE GRAND FINALS

  • @Doomroar
    @Doomroar Рік тому +3

    Nine: "They will give you a sign when it starts?"
    Avo+: "Yeah they will give me a sign when it starts, trust me, don't worry"
    PGL: "We will what?"
    Avo+: "I told him to trust me!"

  • @purwoputraa
    @purwoputraa Рік тому +8

    slacks carry PGL so much i think

  • @henoldpcllama
    @henoldpcllama Рік тому +3

    really love this seriea in every ti almost close to shanghai lol

  • @arruxii
    @arruxii Рік тому +6

    I hope ESL takes over.

  • @deadwinglullaby
    @deadwinglullaby Рік тому +3

    who could have known that outsourcing to the lowest bidder, who gave themselves a production budget so small that they needed a better sponsor to bail them out, would produce such bad results? nobody could have seen that coming!

  • @Eisenthorn4179
    @Eisenthorn4179 Рік тому

    I don't play Dota 2 but some clips here feels like I'm in an overcrowded place with people talking using maxed out mics

  • @jackthebeetle7981
    @jackthebeetle7981 Рік тому

    You just earned a subscriber.

  • @hugglebunny3
    @hugglebunny3 Рік тому

    11 min comp of fails from a multi day event GOD FORBID

  • @stingkybuttbutt40
    @stingkybuttbutt40 Рік тому

    The prize pool may be TI level but the production and the feeling feel like major

  • @Jay-wc5qd
    @Jay-wc5qd Рік тому

    Grand final weekend was really well produced tbf

  • @xiehanfoo6114
    @xiehanfoo6114 Рік тому +5

    The amount of 'F' is unreal in this TI

  • @lyjaugs
    @lyjaugs Рік тому +1

    this explains the "weird" results from all the teams this year. xd

  • @rlntlsskuri1796
    @rlntlsskuri1796 Рік тому +2

    You know its a bad production when you can a montage out of it 😂

  • @alfa563
    @alfa563 Рік тому

    Shanghai Major and now TI11 is just making me reminisce Manila Major man

  • @Nyancat092
    @Nyancat092 Рік тому

    Ahhh, Shangai Major memories... 🤩🤩

  • @lakshyamodi1
    @lakshyamodi1 Рік тому

    Patition to give the battlle pass money back

  • @IcyToasty
    @IcyToasty Рік тому +1

    I’m surprised there weren’t any clips of the god awful mic quality from the “true sight” moments when they would cut to the team comms after a fight

    • @lunchplus
      @lunchplus Рік тому

      Those were the most annoying part. Not only were those delayed by 5-10 mins, the comms were a mess

    • @SlappyBag9
      @SlappyBag9  Рік тому

      tbh I kind of liked those, but they were a bit scuffed sounding. They could have been improved for sure.

  • @caniwasteallyourtimeherein9728

    I remember when PGL hosted CSGO major, that was shit too. Man if only Blast is doing Dota event as well that would be pog

  • @azfarzamry3071
    @azfarzamry3071 Рік тому +10

    The best cost to value TI ever!

  • @tsukishimatoiyo2930
    @tsukishimatoiyo2930 Рік тому +1

    Sad that it happened when hosted in my country.

  • @TheMainManBD
    @TheMainManBD Рік тому

    slappybag slaps again

  • @SleepingDrone
    @SleepingDrone Рік тому

    NASL sound guy strikes again.

  • @DC-bd6pe
    @DC-bd6pe Рік тому

    True Sight: The International 2022

  • @chairinriadi9277
    @chairinriadi9277 Рік тому +6

    I know it'll be some kind of failure when I see no booth in ti playoffs

    • @almezamorra1021
      @almezamorra1021 Рік тому +1

      Even TI1 had booths... they probably thought they can do the same as LOL worlds playoffs... Singapoor sucks. they know that there will be no audience so they chose a smaller venue, or because of low budget and expensive prices, thats the only thing they could afford.

  • @iqbalbariq8913
    @iqbalbariq8913 Рік тому

    finally some hq content from production

  • @qugo8158
    @qugo8158 Рік тому +6

    PGL has always been lack luster and bad at their jobs. Look at their csgo major and they had a whole slew of issues as well. The only reason valve likes them is because they're always available like how they swooped in the replace perfect world at the Shanghai major, earning valves favor, and how quickly they were able to switch from Stockholm to Romania for ti10. As a TO, PGL has nothing noteworthy.

  • @davidtoiser6535
    @davidtoiser6535 Рік тому

    Loop-live on the grand final was a really wtf moment

  • @RRembrandt
    @RRembrandt Рік тому +1

    Beyond the Summit died for this Sadge

  • @Dazen101
    @Dazen101 Рік тому +1

    So glad i;m NA and missed 90% of this train wreck due to time zone differences

  • @mnzulhamsyah
    @mnzulhamsyah Рік тому +1

    At first, I thought it's only me who felt so bland about this TI, but it just hit different for my friends as well. Like something is missing there.

  • @thehumus8688
    @thehumus8688 Рік тому +3

    Valve should hire WePlay to do TI instead.
    WePlay is always have amazing production

  • @Kokozaftran
    @Kokozaftran Рік тому

    PGL - intern level production.

  • @zacharyhockett6248
    @zacharyhockett6248 Рік тому

    Honestly the lag in the grandfinal was the cherry on top of this shit Sunday that was the production.

  • @ervingabriel7563
    @ervingabriel7563 Рік тому +3

    6:36 OMG I can’t stop laughing

  • @SalveASMR
    @SalveASMR Рік тому +24

    Don't you guys ever forget that PGL hosted The Manila Major, which set the standard for Dota 2 Event Production.

    • @dib1420
      @dib1420 Рік тому +45

      Manila Major's production sucked, it was the fans, teams, and shoutcasters/commentators that made it great.

    • @xerxes9999
      @xerxes9999 Рік тому +4

      Did you forget the god awful player cameras at the side? It was so goddamn messy to look at.

    • @SalveASMR
      @SalveASMR Рік тому +1

      @@dib1420 Pinoy Crowd. Best Crowd.

  • @bpdhoplite
    @bpdhoplite Рік тому +2

    picked up near the end but my god 80% of TI was abysmally produced

  • @todd3143
    @todd3143 Рік тому

    what company should make ti? weplay? esl?

  • @chronokel11
    @chronokel11 Рік тому

    "Are you done?"

  • @ellgareclaire
    @ellgareclaire Рік тому

    The International Level of Production BTW

  • @petercort3566
    @petercort3566 Рік тому

    you left out the best part, the pre day 1 stream 'test' animated short

  • @TwentyThree_Kei
    @TwentyThree_Kei Рік тому +1

    Slappy god with another upload 🙇

  • @bwiset4111
    @bwiset4111 Рік тому

    explains the prize pool drop

  • @Altercepez
    @Altercepez Рік тому

    The budget TI, it feels so inadequate in so many front

  • @rodrigorojas725
    @rodrigorojas725 Рік тому

    Y eso que solo pusiste los errores en el cast en ingles, en los otros idiomas también hubo muchos problemas

  • @lifealchemy1218
    @lifealchemy1218 Рік тому

    The music makes this 😂

  • @guysunderthecity6126
    @guysunderthecity6126 Рік тому

    I dont understand why there were no booths

  • @gioiadeasis
    @gioiadeasis Рік тому +2

    oh i kinda agree with how lackluster this year's production was and i watched most of the main events. it just didn't feel...conclusive enough. remember how the international is supposed to be the biggest event in dota 2 every year? it just didn't feel...grand, you know. the vibe of it being the esports counterpart of the olympics just isn't there. the crowd is amazing though, but that's to be expected from a crowd as hype as southeast asia. they just gave the worthy production on finals weekend, but even that didn't measure compared to last year's...and that was without an audience.
    i wish they do better on ti12. and host it in manila...?

    • @aoitenshi911
      @aoitenshi911 Рік тому

      no way in manila, since it same region with singapore, they will change location to other region, maybe south america or middle east

    • @gioiadeasis
      @gioiadeasis Рік тому

      @@aoitenshi911 well, definitely in the future!

    • @pablohanmaaa
      @pablohanmaaa Рік тому

      @@aoitenshi911 manila host the major way better than any major or than this. pros will a agree to this statement.

  • @zoli378
    @zoli378 Рік тому +1

    forgot the part in the finals where in the finals the stream went back by 6 minutes and had to rewatch the same teamfight twice lol, then the video was lagging for a while

    • @SlappyBag9
      @SlappyBag9  Рік тому +1

      isn't that in the video? at 2:30

    • @zoli378
      @zoli378 Рік тому

      @@SlappyBag9 right, i probably didnt pay attention at that part lol

  • @calixtobrilliantes4435
    @calixtobrilliantes4435 Рік тому

    Man... does anyone remember the weaver ult in the final moments of the grandfinals. They really messed up.

  • @rafaelv9121
    @rafaelv9121 Рік тому

    10:55 I LOVE SLACKS HAHAHAHAH

  • @adhityatm3847
    @adhityatm3847 Рік тому

    That kaci fail so bad srsly xD

  • @keeptryingtop
    @keeptryingtop Рік тому +2

    every year Valve is less and less engaged in DotA. this applies to both in-game content and esports

  • @ayeye-69
    @ayeye-69 Рік тому

    best ti ever

  • @asnifuashifj91274
    @asnifuashifj91274 Рік тому

    A lot of people say the headphones negates the need to have a cube. They are so wrong, there is no headphone that can effectively block all sounds, not even the best one (ranging from USD5k and above). What have been proven to work for decades are sound proof booths, specifically to those made for esports but with studio-grade quality to block sound waves from all frequencies. This just shows that Valve does not care about the most important aspect of the tournament - fair playing grounds.

  • @vegapunk172
    @vegapunk172 Рік тому +5

    WePlay should organize TI12

  • @u12blue
    @u12blue Рік тому +2

    Just compare all dota events we had vs riot's productions, not even close.

  • @davidtoiser6535
    @davidtoiser6535 Рік тому +1

    Slacks no-audio still worth

  • @colorless3560
    @colorless3560 Рік тому

    should have added PGL Production in title for more brand damage. thanks

  • @bradfordbailo4656
    @bradfordbailo4656 Рік тому

    Classic TI Prod amiryt? ah ah *wink wink

  • @dgp_ipwn
    @dgp_ipwn Рік тому

    Puppey: Are you calling this T.I. a shitshow?

  • @errypebriyanto537
    @errypebriyanto537 Рік тому +1

    Win TI in worst production is the best 🤣

  • @samrossi2641
    @samrossi2641 Рік тому

    And they saved the grand failure for the grand final, stream crash and go back 10 minutes behind....

  • @AxaFin
    @AxaFin Рік тому

    Marketing failure as well, I didn't know the tournament was even happening till the last day and by then already lost interest in it.