Does The New 2022 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X Crush The Titan Off-Road? Big vs Little Brother Rivalry!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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( tfl-studios.com/ ) The 2022 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X improves on the old truck in virtually every way, but is it even better than its big brother? Well, that's what Roman and Nathan head up Tombstone Hill to find out!
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#Titan #Frontier #Pro4X
I bought a new Titan Pro-4x in 2005. Still have it with 374,000 miles on it. It has been a great truck. Bought a 2016 Titan XD with Cummins Diesel. Over 150,000 miles on it with no real problems. Just need to maintain vehicles properly and they will last!!! I have friends with Fords and Chevy/GMC. Both have problems. Nissans are good vehicles.
374k wow that is incredible. Did you have any of the inherent problems? Radiator? Rear axle seals? Exhaust manifolds?
@Duane Jones. I definately agree with you as my 2008 crew cab 4x4 long bed Nissan Frontier has 368,000 miles on it with original engine and trans and its still my daily driver for work. Its getting a little long in the tooth but I wouldnt hesitate to drive it accross the country tomorrow if necessary.
I had a 2006 Nismo Frontier that gave me 0 problems after 100k miles. Nissan trucks are great
The pro4x trim was introduced in 2008 🧐
@@tontolinification incorrect. I still have the vehicle if you need proof
Happy to see Nissan treating you guys well it shows they have confidence in their truck offerings.
Well, maybe. The trucks sent off to professional reviewers are always inspected thoroughly the make sure theres nothing wrong. The mass produced models dont have quite the same QA or QC.
Roman said something when the frontier hit the step …Rock vs Metal. I think that’s a great name for a new series comparing some rock crawling capabilities of various rigs. Maybe even invite viewers to bring their rigs
I"m more of a metal guy but rock is nice too.
I agree a new series Rock vs Metal.
Damn, that's a good idea...
I am a Nissan Frontier fan! And i love the new one. About the Titan, it’s deserve better sales!
I really hope Nissan updates the Titan and keeps it in the fight...its a very underrated truck
I traded in my 2015 F150 for a 2020 P04X and I really am happy with it.
Just wandering if yours has a push button start? Is the 20 the same as a 21?
@@matthewg7167 Yes to both questions
I have no plan in buying either of these trucks, but still watch because tfl puts out great content.
Same here
Most people share your feelings
What do you drive?
I watched this video as I'm planning on getting the new Z when it comes out obviously
The best 🤙🏽
Nissan makes damn good trucks
Nissans 2 best products! I can't help just loving that Titan, Frontier seems great to👍
sadly that titans were underrated,but I still think that titan is one of the best truck in the market IMO
The Nissan GT-R is Nissan's best product..
I read the Titan is on the chopping block and will probably soon will be discontinued soon too.
GTR is great too. And looks like next Z will be as well. Nissan is getting their mojo back. Now they need to return the Xterra
@@Hiluxtaco no
The Titan doesn't really have a leg up on the competition in any particular thing, but it is a good truck and should sell much better than it does.
I think they did a really good job on the Frontier redesign. Mid size truck buyers will be making a mistake if they don't give it a look before buying.
Andre and Nathan do great together in these videos. The 4 of you deserve to be on the tv networks. Hopefully someday.
The Nissan Frontier Pro4x is probably one of the EASIEST TRUCKS to finance and get a good deal on. The Ford Ranger, The Jeep Wranglers and Gladiators and any of the F150, 1500 Sierra/Silverado and RAM 1500 trucks have gotten into silly season territory pricing-wise! You pretty much now have to be RICH in order to afford one of the those trucks!
The Frontier though can be had pretty well loaded for $45,000 or even less! but the BEST thing about it is that Nissan dealers are DESPERATE for customers so if you are a 20-to-40's guy/gal in a decent trade, you can get some GREAT FINANCING DEALS on this truck. This truck is a BETTER off-roader than the full-size trucks and all you need is better tires (I like Goodyear Duratracs or Nitto Ridge Grapplers!) and you can get near Ford F150 Raptor off-road performance at a MUCH CHEAPER PRICE!
The ONLY other truck that comes close in terms of price-versus-4x4-performance is the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition.
So far for the 2021/2022 model years, in terms of PRICE and FINANCING for anyone in their 20's to 40's in a trade who need a GREAT combined daily driver AND weekend warrior/camping/fishing/hunting truck --- I say it's a toss-up between the Nissan Frontier Pro4x and the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition.
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Frontier is for sure the best looking (besides Colorado zr2) mid-size right now.
I have a '22 Frontier SV 4x4 and it's phenomenal. Makes a great, comfortable daily but still rips in the snow and has good ground clearance.
Im on my second Frontier 4x4, only because I traded the first one ( 2010 ) in on a new 2018 black midnight edition. These vehicles go through snow like no other vehicle Ive been in. The most massively underrated small truck on the planet.
I bought the green 2022 frontier truck in Pro-X trim (2wd) cloth lava seats great truck no problems very comfortable and a fun truck wouldn't hesitate to buy another frontier.
Still waiting for the Nissan Frontier Pro4X vs. Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road - apples to apples!!! Come on guys make it happen!
@Shifty McGee462 Nope. He compared the Tacoma Trd Pro to the Nissan Pro-4x. Not apples to apples.
The issue though is they aren't going to push them to their limits and at 50% to 70% of their max capability both will cover the same ground. Both of those are good trucks. Toyota has the huge aftermarket support and following but up until the point where you have to start modifying them anyway they will both do what any normal buyer needs. After that Toyota has the parts available in mass quantities where the Nissan after market is there but much smaller.
Yes
@Shifty McGee462 Trick King used TRD Pro vs Frontier. Not TRD off road
@@davep2945 I think that is a great point. Many people would take a SR5 and aftermarket it to a point that passes the trd pro. Not going to do that with an SV for a while if ever, time will tell. I’m leaning frontier Pro4x being on the east coast really don’t need a rock crawler just a sand dodger!
Well these are the only 2 nissan's I would spend my money on but this did not really challenge either truck but shows they are both more than capable for the vast majority of real world owners off roading needs.
I want to see a Frontier equipped with the Nismo Bilstein 6112 front shocks. Also, zipping those bolts out of the steps would take like 1 minute using a power tool and about 5 minutes with hand tools. And then you have at least some rocker protection. If they are attached to the body I might not want to drag the full weight of the truck over a rock on one of the rails, but they are better than nothing and good enough for most.
I do like the simplicity of the 4WD system in the Nissan. Toyota seems to have gone crazy with tech, but they do a good job of marketing ATRAC and crawl control. Nissan does have ABLS which applies the brake to a slipping wheel to transfer torque to the other side. They just don't make a big deal about it and they don't have any selectable modes for it that make the system more aggressive off road. It does work, but the trick is you need to apply enough throttle for the wheel with low traction to spin, but you don't want to floor it. Put a Frontier on the rollers at opposite corners to see how it compares to the locking differential. Hell find a Tacoma and compare it to their system as well.
If those steps are bolted to the rocker panel They will cars more damage must be true rock sliders
I've got a 2016 Frontier. The ABLS works good. Without it and traction control off my rear drive wheel just spins. With it on it works you out of stuff like the Taco's system
That Frontier looks so good! I would definitely buy that over the Titan.
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I want the Frontier.
I agree with you two on Hill Descent Control. I think it's nice for new drivers to have a safety in case they're unconfident, but I definitely feel more in control handling the braking and accelerating myself
I have predator side steps on my Tundra. They really do help in getting into the seat. Mine are at the welding shop...had them repaired. The steps did not like the curb and sidewalk I drove over. Don't ask why. $250 to weld them up. I hope they look almost like new when I pick them up tomorrow. Smaller pickups are better to off road. I had a Tacoma...way more maneuverable.
Was your ex-wife on the sidewalk?
@@rzu7120 Lmao...that would be poetic justice but no, she wasn't.
My FIL just bought the Titan Pro 4X and I first thought he was crazy. After watching your content with it, I think it was a pretty solid purchase with the Bilstein shocks and everything. He needs to lift it, but that’s a separate issue.
Old folks like to keep it factory.
'but it looks cool'
"But it does look cool"
Appreciate that honesty
Wow, what a great test ride! Love the new Frontier!
Love my 22 Frontier Pro-4x. Test drove a Tacoma and chose the Nissan. Better ride quality on road and a MUCH quieter cabin.
I’d probably make that choice too, but TFL did show decibels for both towing and seems like the Nissan was much louder inside at high rpm.
Interesting they said the frontier may ride better off road but they appeared to bounce around less in the titan.
From the outside, the Frontier is definitely the better looking of the two trucks..
Love my ‘18 Titan pro4x. Luxurious and capable
I dig the video in video editing! Keep up the creativity!
Ill assume the titan vs tundra is coming soon?
Hope so
Test drove a 2022 Frontier SV 4x4. It felt like it rode heavier than my 2017 SV 4x4. The transmission was seamless. I could hardly feel the shifts. Hood is bulkier like every truck now which I don't like
Intelligent Lane Intervention works with the brakes not with the steering. Pro pilot uses steering assist.
I’ll take the frontier
I'm guessing those who dog on the side steps never had knee problems.
The issue is their design. You can have side steps that can also be strong enough for use as a rock rail. And without having the two individual steps that catch everything. On my wrangler I have rock rails that act as a full length step. Make very short wife easily gets inside with them, and they also protect the body.
I have a 22 pro4x frontier and bought k02 33s and they fit all i had to do is remove the front mud flaps. ordered my 2.5 dobinson lift kit from Z1 offroad on black friday. These trucks are solid and ride so good.
Let me know how the lift goes got a 21 pro4x want to lift
If you like the ride quality, lifting the truck it will affect that. Make sure to buy a complete high quality kit
@@anormalhickgamer5782 dobinson is a well known company and it's a complete kit
@@philipparana9225 will do 👍
@@pacificnorthwestfrontier good stuff! Put a cheap 2.5 inch spacer on my sierra. Ride is horrible now
The lack of winter here in CO this late is a bit worrisome...
I bet you don't think that anymore
i got my 2022 frontier last year and i like it
I have a 2023 Warlock thats was rearended and in the Bodyshop being repaired, Enterprise gave me a 2023 Frontier 2 wd and the steering in kind of heavy, i have it for 10-14 days or until my truck is fixed.
I'll keep my 2021 Titan Pro4x but I must say I like the Frontier.
I wanted to get a 21 titan but I decided to go for a 21 frontier pro 4x. Almost a 20 grand difference! I’m just wandering if I should get a 22? I think I like the older body better! And the 21 is almost 14 grand cheaper than the 22!
Frontier looks great and seems to be a solid truck.
I love my Titan, but if I didn’t need the size I wouldn’t mind the Frontier.
I am confused on why the thinner Frontier has marker fender lights and the Titan doesn’t. (Although mine does)
Go Bucs! I miss Tampa so much
I love the 5.6 tho… hard to beat an American flatplane v8
Note the power figures you listed for the Titan are with premium fuel only. The Frontier power figures are with regular 87 octane.
Fords Ecoboost specifically recommends premium when towing. The GM 6.2 also calls for premium but they seem to never mention that in other reviews.
It’s ok if they finally Give the Titan a break and not be so critical. It only loses 10 HP when using Regular fuel.
@White Wolf it’s 400 on premium. 390 on regular.
I will say if you put a higher octane In it I bet you get a tad more performance.
has anyone tried this in their new Frontier?
I never tried high test in any of my Nissan trucks 1989,Hardbody 1993 and my 2005 Frontier.
loved The my 1993 with the power button. I squeaked almost 28mpgs on my 1993.
my tip is put worrier bars on the back so the bed won't bent in the future. then I put a Pro Net on it and a tonneau cover, the one that folded. that tailgate weights a ton on the Frontier,witch isn't a bed thing!
a lot of people talk about all the toys you get in other truck like trail control etc. , but if you don't drive off road you really don't need the extra toys I think and if it snows I just put in Fwd or low if need to crawl.
what do you guys think?
There really is no wrong answer I think, but it's nice to hear from your point of views.
I'm just torn on what to buy come spring.
The Ranger Fx421 ,The Gmc At4 long bed, Gmc Denali Fwd or the Frontier.
Any thoughts??
Thank you.
Brad
Employ some interns to remove those side steps and go back and do a proper comparison!
For the last 13 years I have been daily driving a manual frontier. Really wished people would stop saying who really drives a manual anymore. I am sorry but technology in vehicles have made drivers more lazy. Also your more aware of your driving with the manual. You can more in tuned with your vehicle and oh yeah manuals do outlast autos any day.
Off all the accessories added to the Titan, the first should have been the factory lift kit.
Those aren’t Nismo steps, they come on a Titan in general.
That being said, they are low and I removed mine and welded on actual rock slider/steps.
The Frontier: the only Nissan I would ever recommend
I'm totally with you on the idea of offering a Manual Transmission as well! I miss a good 5 speed!!!
Hey- why don't you guys review the Nissan Pro-X (not 4X) in an off road setting to see what it can do>
Awesome videonas usual. As a previous owner of a 2016 Frontier Pro4X and a 2018 Titan Black Edition, I really enjoyed this.
I was wondering if you could do a fleet update sometime. Do you still have the Defender?
No, we sold the Defender a while ago.
The bed on the frontier looks smaller than other mid size trucks
Great content, fellas! Easy like.
Been a nissan fan since my twin turbo skyline
I love the Frontier re-design. Looking to get another 3-4 years out of my silverado then upgrade to a Frontier
You'll get better mileage out of the Titan. I drove both, I get about 2mpg better out of my Titan than I did my Frontier.
Rear shock placement could be better
Need to get me some of those neezmo parts
If you are just offroading a lot, then frontier is better. But if you tow and haul things, Titan is the way to go. But my choice is Titan XD pro4x - does everything :)
I have a 22 frontier and like it much better then the 2020 tacoma I had
On the Titan it appeared that you both had about 4-5 inches to the roof. How much room do you need for your large heads? :)
I was going to ask "Why install steps on the offroad versions of these vehicles", but I was then reminded that my good friend's wife made him add the predator side steps to his 4Runner TRD off-road because she thought the truck was too high. Now every time we hit the trails those things scrape like nobody's business. One day Mother Nature will do him right and take them off for him. ;)
Was planning on the frontier, but lack of manual option has lost me.
Tacoma offroad vs nissan frontier. I drive manuals as well
Same tires
Ok, you didn't disclose the Breakover Angle(s) which I'm sure are relevant...
Why aren’t the rear sliding windows powered on mid sized trucks??
The Frontier is like sitting in a compact car. Ridiculous. Extremely happy with my 2021 Nissan Titan, Pro4X. Awesome truck. If you want to go 4 wheeling with it, put on proper tires. You guys compare to trucks with better tires. Geez, we’re not that stupid.
In 2018 I bought a Chevy Colorado and I never gave Nissan even a consideration since they were so behind the times. After finding what a POS American made truck manufacturers are I have now owned two Nissan Frontiers.
I had a friend who drove the wheels off a late 90s Tacoma for years and years, he decided to give the Colorado a try when he got a new truck....and boy did he regret that, all kinds of problems. He sold it.
@@shaunoftheguads Chevrolet bought my Colorado back and I went straight across the street to the Nissan place and got a better truck for cheaper.
@@jamesm568 nice, although it seems more like a GM issue than an "American made" issue since the Frontier is built in Canton, Mississippi alongside the Titan.
@@tomh507 Assembled in America, but foreign automakers assembling their vehicles in America do a better job and are union free.
Still waiting for the IKE test video 👀
I don’t know after watching this video I think I’ll stick with the 21 frontier pro 4x. Am I in the minority on this?
I like to mount lights in my sports bar like this titan but there are no holes or electric conections?
I think there should be a warrior Frontier with the 5.6 & 3.8 and then take the GT-R TT 3.8 and put it in the Titan. #Nissan
It’d be cool to see a video of how to take the top and doors off the Bronco
We did this video a few months ago. It’s on TFLcar Bronco Week.
Mmm I'm pretty sure the the future titan will be refreshed more like the frontier I'm thinking but a lil different here and there
I think Nissan will drop the Titan. Even though I hope they do t cause Titan is awesome.
So you pointed out the bolts and that they are removable for off-roading and yet you didn't remove them for off-roading and complained about them... Nice
I have been a Datsun / Nissan fan for many years owning a number of Z cars, infiniti's and even a "hardbody" truck back in the day. However, the Titan just doesn't do it for me. They are always years behind the competition on tech, engine options, etc.. The Nissan brass that decided not to build a production version of the Warrior concept blew it! Word is this will be the last year for the Titan. Nobody wants these and it makes sense why.
Side steps on a vehicles are the dumbest thing. The whole point of taller suspension is clearance, but you throw that all away by adding side steps.
I agree but Very few of these trucks sold will ever see anything beyond a gravel road. An off road enthusiast will know better and simply unbolt them. Your average buyer will hate getting in and out of the truck without them and the manufacturer has to appeal to the masses.
@@jabroni6199 Exactly my point.
Nice job
The side steps on the Fronty need to be removed. Tested them out at an auto show and absolutely are designed for short people. What I want to see from a midsize truck is midsize room in the back seats. Not compact sizing.
You guys always bash Nissan “FRONTIER especially! But its the best truck out their all around for 20 years! The rest have compromises I’m to old and handicapped to live with! I would take a Ridgeline in a heartbeat but cant fit through the front door! 🤣 stupid design…..
Nathan, the word in Japanese is "Gomenasai"
didn't want to take those down miller rock eh? haha!! Yeah I wouldn't either...
Nissan could be adding on all these steps and junk so when they go to sell the vehicle they just take them off or replace/repair the steps and viola no body damage.
Ford raptor 2021?
They should have had an old Nissan hardbody for comparison.
is this 68J ?
Roman hates nissan. They make great trucks, but he hates to ever make a decent comment about them
They look rusty already. Because where you live? I’m in Virginia. My 2008 sequoia has no rust. 204k miles. Not garage kept. But didn’t go off-road or out on salt roads either.
Dude drives a Santa Cruz and says he drives manuals 🤣.
I haven't seen the video yet but my guess is when the going gets tough, the frontier would demolish the titan.
Interesting test. What I would be interested in would be which one went around corners, without sliding out, the fastest.
Just got my brand new Tacoma TRD Off-Road for 35000 out the door. Struggling to understand how a similar Frontier is going for 48000.
If you got a Tacoma TRD Off-road 4X4 for 35,000 with everything on it that the Frontier has on it then you bought it well below what the dealer would pay, good job
@@jackrussellville No doubt I got a great deal considering I can sell this thing for more than I paid but the dealer still made money. I got the mt with no other upgrades and the sale price was straight msrp for the model. That said there was an SR5 available too with 4x4 that was 4k more lol. Very happy with th purchase all things considered.
Nathan "I wanted to even them out Roman" I was laughing out loud.
Now that Nissan has cancelled the Titan, the Frontier wins by default.
Keeping Nissan alive lol
The back seat is not comfortable in the Frontier. No good for long trips.
I don’t know how they can call the Frontier a midsize truck. The width is narrower than a lot of compact SUVs.
@@michaelfoulkes9502 it’s just that vehicles have gotten bigger over the years. Do you think that a vehicle which has remained the same size should be kicked down a size category because of that?
Name one mid size truck with a comfortable back seat. In fact the Tacoma front seat is so uncomfortable people won’t buy it.
@@billywill903 ? This statement makes no sense since it's number 1 in sales... we have 3. A sport 4x4, Manual offroad and a manual pro.
my 2005 Frontier was comfortable in the back seats! I actually liked sitting back there .
Nice!!
get these trucks without the sunroof headroom solved
Roman, I would like to meet you one day and give you the Nissan emblem to eat