clipping wings. agree or disagree?
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If you don't want an animal that can fly. Don't get a bird!
Me having a kiwi muhahaha I all got you
Having a pet that can fly is the best part! Cleaning poo off the ceiling fan ... not so much! 😂
We have a small house and i get the bird with me outside for a quick breeze. Thanks for wanting your bird to fly away😊 real nice of you
My friend has a bird who flies around all day long but returns back to his house. @@MariaMejia-bf5zj
@MariaMejia-bf5zj don't get a pet that can fly if you don't have a big enough house or a proper room for the bird
I got 3 Budgies about 4 months ago. The pet shop I got them at had clipped their wings. Day after day of support and love, they finally can fly again.
I adopted a 3yr old ringneck who was the same. She was not friendly at all. She's much happier and sweeter now that she can fly again. She's 13 now and runs our house😂.
@@HeatherHentonhaving clipped wings can cause emotional issues??!!
@@XfadedpixieXimagine not being able to do what you were specifically designed and created for. It like removing a persons legs and expecting them to not be depressed. Yeah
@@XfadedpixieXyea you restrict them from what they were born to do, of course and it ruins their mental health
“Don’t lock up something that you wanted to see fly” - Soundgarden, Fell on Black days.
LOVE that song!
@@guacbird TRUE!
SOUNDGARDEN MENTIONED
Haha funny number
That’s why you clip the feathers until he/she is tamed, it grows back in a matter of months
There are very few cases where it’s good to clip their wings (blind but instincts still there for example), but I do think it’s good to know how to do it just in case. Always good to have the knowledge.
I used to clip one wing on my elderly cockatiel because his other wing never grew full length flight feathers (likely a birth defect, he had a strangely shaped keel too). I’d even them out to make sure he was less likely to hurt himself when he fell. Never had to do it when he was younger, he just tended to fly a little to the side, but once he got older he would just crash and it was safer to remove any kind of lopsided power he could put into the fall.
I agree
And with some birds you can't train them to come back
Where I live there are a couple places over run with an non native parrot that has escaped multiple houses and is invading the local ecosystem
@@assassincheese0there is a population of African Rosy Face Lovebirds in Arizona. But they don't invade the ecosystem.
@@Specklewing we have multiple groups of green Indian ring necks
They Do invade the ecosystem
@@assassincheese0 Ohhhhh, I was talking about a different bird. Yes, Ringnecks do.
Worked at a pet store for many years and we would help owners clip wings only in certain cases...blindness, injury, etc. But if you take good care of your birds you really shouldn't need to. They don't hurt anybody.
I had a bird. He was a parrot native to my country. He arrived one day by himself in my backyard. We took care on him.He leave with us for 1 year. My father always always told me that if he wants to leave he will leave. We never cut his feather for that reason. When he was ready he left.
Thank you for taking care of him & giving him love for a year!
I think for birds native to the area, especially ones starting out in the wild, this is a good practice.
Bro you and your family are awesome
Got chickens who insisted on flying. Didn’t bother me until they flew out of the pen and one got snatched up by a fox. Wings were clipped but it’s for their own safety. They can still fly fine (can reach perches and can get on top of the coop) but can’t escape.
I agree, just got another bird and his wings were clipped, he was scared and tried to fly but couldn’t. It broke my heart to see him so helpless
Agree! My girl was badly clipped when we adopted her. It made a huge difference In her temperment once she could fly again. I think it's cruel.
In some rare cases its safe for the bird, we had this pigeon who couldn't fly properly, his wings weren't damaged or anything, he just couldn't fly properly for some reason and always would collide with walls/tree branches then fall.
So we had no choice but to clip his wings so he does hurt himself.
When his wings grew back he was able to properly fly
I completely agree. Like if you don’t ever want to hear a dog bark then don’t get a dog.
But if i don’t do it then my hens are going to escape
@@silnymuz9053How are they able to fly that high
Same as people who declaw their cats.
If youre getting an animal, but dont want that one thing everyone knows the animal in question does, why would you even get it?
If you dont want a flying pet, dont get a bird.
Birds fly.
Its what they do, everyone knows its what they do, if you dont want that but it HAS to be a bird, get a chicken.
Chickens can fly too, technically. They would rather sit on your porch and stare at you in the windows to beg for treats. But if they wanted to fly they could go at least 20-40ft before they get tired. 😂
@@lisafrank4860 Well okay but a chicken is still a bit more practical than an ostrich.
Where i live all animal shelters are full and killing off cats i think i rather save a cat and declaw it so it doesnt ruin my stuff so it can live another day inside my house there are reasons things happen but i do agree some should never even think of doing it unless its a last ditch effort to save someone save something or it benifits both sides dont do it
@@goldengamer2.040no that still makes you an asshole
U can trim the cats nails and use detrarants and stratch mats ect
U could of helped rehome but the fact u took a cat in just to mutilate it do you don't have to deal with training or trimming is just disgusting
declawing doesn't only remove the claws, it's a whole part of the finger
So how would you like it if we nipped your fingers at the first knuckle? Cause that's what you're doing when you declaw a cat. @@goldengamer2.040
I keep rescue birds; birds that other people have discarded as pets. They do not know how to live in the wild. Keeping their flight feathers trimmed prevents them from hurting themselves by flying into walls and out through open doors. Their well-being is first and foremost, and this is how we keep them safe.
The videos referring to homeowners who don't train or do anything to their birds you are doing amazing👏👏
Don’t leave doors open. And unless they’re blind, they shouldn’t be flying into walls. If they’ve had their wings clipped, then their musculature is going to be so underdeveloped they’re not going to be able to fly for quite a while anyways. But there’s no reason why a bird shouldn’t be be able to fly from one perch to another inside your house unless you’re keeping something huge.
@@SimplySatisfiedSarah
Tell me you don't know anything about birds without telling me you don't know anything about birds.
They are birds. They'll learn. How can they know how to fly without having the opportunity to learN? You can teach them too. Start with too stands and slowly separate.
Wow you're in denial. The person is correct. They don't know, and yes their muscles are under developed. That's why you slowly start exercising them. Bird tricks has plenty of videos like it. Where birds who have never flown are exercised and taught.
That's not, an unpopular opinion, thats a correct one.
So if my chickens jump the fence and get mauled by the neighbors dogs, at least they were free? If a parakeet gets out and freezes to death at least it was free? How about just be a good steward for animals. You can say, oh they shouldn't be here, well, here in reality, they are here and require specific care to ensure a long and healthy life. Maybe also look at the natural survival rate of each bird in the wild, just take a peek into baby bird deaths caused by ants, apparently that is better than no predators, access to food and water and often and good set up. Maybe prioritize logic over how you may feel, most people think bears are nice because of cartoons and no concept of reality.
Maybe prioritize that logic and just train your damn animals first and foremost? There are situations when clipping is best for the bird's safety and health, but I wouldn't say it's the first option.
@@Gleowyn it is the first option because how are you going to train them unless you have a large area to train that can simulate what they might find/see outside
@@petthequeenofmaddness8592 they have bird harnesses that you can use
@@GleowynIt's only when you have a chick and hand feed it that it won't fly away. Even then sometimes free flight training doesn't go to plan. You can't just get a grown bird, take it outside and expect it to fly back to you. Even if it's tamed.
They uhh grow back so uuhh yeah some people don't want the birds they spend thousands of dollars to fly away I'm sorry it doesn't hurt the bird and free flight can be dangerous for captive bread birds guy so uhh idk what you on about to each his own but don't shitting on people for tryna keep there birds safe
uhm so you're implying that if something costs money you can make it suffer? birds are not things, they're living beings, they're not a comodity, if you spend thousands of dollars on a bird you better know how to take care of it and adapt your space and life to them, not the other way around
I think a lot of people don't realize that this isn't permanent. Its not the same as docking a dogs ear or declawing a cat. THESE FEATHERS COME BACK, your not hurting it, and it will be able to fly again after it molts. Its actually safer to clip a few of these feathers when transporting or introducing them to a new home. Once one of them gets out, you might as well say goodbye or get a net if its loose in the house because you can't call a new pet bird like you would a dog.
I will note your not supposed to trim all those feathers, usually you skip the first 3 or 4, allowing the bird to still control itself, slightly get take off, and fold its wings properly, but not allow itself to get enough lift to actually fly.
So birds pluck their feathers out when they're uncomfortable and it might even hurt them sometimes, and you're just saying cut them off and then LATER you add oh but don't cut off these feathers and oh but...
Maybe just I don't know get something else instead and stop messing with the already trapped birds...
@DKTeddyBear LOL, try telling the majority of the population that buys pet birds. Most of the smaller species end up getting bought for children, who, I might add, have little understanding of birds and will of course make mistakes. And if you can't understand that I said the feathers GROW BACK, then sorry, can't help ya. Can't fix stupid.
@@DKTeddyBearmy birds aren’t trapped yet they’re clipped, and happy. i only bought cockatiels that were clipped to train them and teach them the boundaries of windows.
@@leannweaver7807 imagine thinking that removing the primary locomotion of an animal is fine, weird ass.
@@leannweaver7807Yes, the feathers grow back. However, if you cut them too many times, they'll grow back incorrectly-or just not grow back at all.
There's a few scenarios that a bird would need flight restriction, but I mostly agree.
If you want a pet like a bird but one that can't fly, get an emerald tree skink
-Clint's reptiles
My cockatoo will never get her wings clipped. Never.
I clipped mine ❤❤
Will you be sad if she leaves or she won’t cause she depends on you?
@@grahh7234disgusting
@@dominiquelester4433 You are
No. There was an old woman I knew who absolutely loved her birds and took care of them until the day she died but she couldn't have been able to chase them around the house. She had the wings of the smaller male clipped because he was more mischievous and I still think she was a great pet owner. Those birds loved her.
Handicapping an animal for your own benefit is wrong.
Definitely not an unpopular opinion. That's just awful.
Depends on the situation in my opinion. If you're new to owning a bird, get someone who clips the wings well and not roughly and horribly. I know of a breeder of who we got my bird, Charlie from. He clipped his wings and then he almost died at least 5 times from blood feathers. I know that birds are MEANT to fly, but clipping wings isn't going to make them not able to fly ever again. It is only temporary. I know this because of my second bird, Blue, who had her wings clipped very well and had no issues with flight later on. It was just so while we got used to her, she couldn't fly around too much because we didn't know what to do if she crashed (we do now!)
Overall, if you're new get someone good who knows how to clip wings properly and gently. Otherwise, don't in any other situation.
Keep them in a cage in that time... But yes do it right, if you really have to...
But come on, because you don't know stuff, you're gonna clip their wings? Maybe learn before getting the bird, maybe ask someone, maybe cage them first...
People jump to so many "options" too fast and there is ALWAYS gonna be people saying they can properly clip the wings, and then mess it up, and also it highly depends on the birds!
@@DKTeddyBear Ah yeah. All of those are very good ideas. I suppose you just don’t really think of them!!!
@@SilentBeaveror just don’t get an animal that can fly if you don’t want them to fly…
I completely agree
Clipping wings is sometimes necessary
Not all the time but with new owners or accident prone or healing birds
Some peoe would love to have a bird but might have a disability or limitation to being able to help the bird if it gets stuck or hurt whilst flying
And not all birds should fly
We had a couple that didn't have their wings clipped and ended up scaring themselfs half to death to the point they didn't fly again
So no clipping the wings isn't always bad it's just if you do for crule or selfish reasons
the proper way to clip a wing is to never do it. Learn all your future pet needs and training before having any pet
Altering another living creature to better suit your needs, clipping wings, declawing cats etc, is peak selfish, garbage behavior
Disagree. I clip my Amazon's flight feathers because he can, and will [and HAS] hurt himself. I've had him since I was 10 and I'm 37 now, he doesn't mind. I will continue to clip his flight feathers in order to keep him safe, thanks.
why not to learn to train them properly? birds are not stupid. You think they don't mind but are you sure? the bird will try to live a normal life but you don't know if you're hurting them psychologically the can't tell you. how has the bird hurt themsef? by fleeing from you? by being scared? trying to fly through a window? to a fan? that's improper training, not the birds fault
@@LeeYaoSan To each their own. He's close to 30 and living his best life. I'm gonna keep doing me -- he's very trained btw.
I don't believe that clipping is ever ideal, but I don't believe it's always abusive depending on the type of bird and whether it's done correctly... chickens can have their flight feathers cut with no damage and they will grow back every year, and are usually big enough to still be able to get themselves off the ground to where they can still reach nesting boxes/etc with their clipped feathers. They just can't fly over the 6ft fence into the neighbor's yard anymore.
Our house was pretty safe and anyone that came over knew we had a free bird. I only wished we had had an Aviary. The two birds were free to fly most of time and we never clipped their wings.
Don't they grow back?
They do
yes, they do, but why should that be an acceptable thing to do? clipping a bird wings is the same as disabling them
i think some people clip their wings for medical reasons though
You can and sometimes soud clip chikens wings!
Yea if you dont want a pet that flies and is free, get another species of pet. Dont go against nature in such harming way sad
i mean, it depends if its necessary or not, if its cuz of a disease or injury that makes this necessary than i would say thats a good reason, but for no fucking reason? nahh
No, just no.
The reason they are probably doing is because maybe they are taking it to the vet and it might fly away and lose it a bird it can grow back
There’s no reason to do it at all. It doesn’t take much time or much training to teach your bird how to fly and give it a recall so that it comes back to you. Clipping wings is definitely cruel.
Yes it can be for views and thats cruel
@@jennblue3757I'm sorry, not every bird is like yours. You need to free flight train it when it's a chick that's barely starting to fly. "Recall" is not going to work on an average bird. There's a reason why there are cases where birds still don't come back even after being trained the recall ability. It happened to my friend.
I can't build a cage in my backyard because, one, it's too expensive.
And two, it's cold asf where I live.
What difference does a GPS make when the bird dies from a predator?
If trimmed properly, they can still fly. Just not for long periods of time.
Why unpopular, these people should be ashamed
Only clip birds wings on rare occasions
So I should let my bird fly into the fan which has already happened before?
if your house is hazardous to a bird, then don't have birds, it doesn't matter what do you want, why do you want an animal made to fly to stop being able to fly? and have it's muscles atrofied. Why do you want your bird to suffer because you don't want to change your fan or protect it for your bird. Adapt your bird's space to their safety, not the other way around for your confort
@@LeeYaoSan they feel no pain when cutting their wings bcz they are done by a professional and also everyone is not rich like you and can turn on an AC 24/7, so we have to use ceiling fans . Also the last time I clipped my birds wing was like 2 years ago.
is this really unpopular?
Popular opinion: Yes.
Birds need wings to fly and it helps them for their enrichment. Wing clipping should be illegal unless it's for complex medical reasons
SO NOT DO THAT THAT IS BADDDDD REALLY BADD
I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion amongst knowledgeable, bird owners, and especially bird rehabbers. You guys see what’s been done to them to try and domesticate them and when it doesn’t work, they end up with you. It’s mind boggling what people will do just so they can force a pet into the box of what they want or don’t want. Like keeping a dog in a kennel all the time. Never letting it outside. Never taking it for a walk. Because it might get away…
Try telling that to my birds who commonly try to become a boiled chicken every other time we cook when she's out on her massive indoor tree perch.
I so agree! Dont get a bird if you dont want them to fly!!
We have a bird but we didnt cut their wings but we did file them with a electric filer. My mom had some birds and when i was little i opened the cage but they flew away. My mom left the window open because it was june (almost summer) i have a bird now and we filed their wings with an eletric filer. We dont want it ti happened but apparently you do!
@MariaMejia-bf5zj dont own a bird then. There is something called training and leashes for birds. You should not clip their wings. Also the frick a electric cliper really? That lazy to care for an animal
If you don't want it to fly away, HAVE IT IN A CAGE AND ONLY OPEN IT WHEN IT IS SAFE
or better yet GET ANOTHER ANIMAL there are SO MANY!
@DKTeddyBear or dont get an animals that you are going to shove into a cage for most of its life
i do want him to fly, i only bought the bird clipped to train and teach it .
That is literal torture
If it is not between a babys legs, they do not agree?? LEL..
i dont think people should "own" birds, its a creature that needs to fly, use its wings, you keep it in a cage when its not around you, birds shouldnt be pets.
and you're absolutely right, I have birds that live with me and all are rescued or adopted. I try my best to give them the best life possible as their only alternative is to die because they're not a local species and also they wouldn't be able to survive by themselves in nature. I do not own them, they're family, better than most humans I must say
i think its abuse
I had to clip my birds wings a couple times, first time she spooked and flew into this big window, we clipped her wings to protect her until we knew she was okay, second time we had been moving and had been cramped in a this tiny room so we clipped the her wings so she could roam around without flying into walls, im in a bigger room and she has her wings fully grown out since there is no more danger
I don’t understand the backlash against clipping wings. It doesn’t hurt, and the feathers will grow back. It’s NICE for the bird to be able to fly, but it’s not a necessity.
well surely you don't "need" your feet so why don't you tie them all and stop moving them? It's NICE to be able to walk but not a necessity. Birds DO need to be able to fly, both physically and psichologically, it's not only their primary way to move but also a defense mecanism
@@LeeYaoSan It Depends On How Many Feathers You Clip, If You Clip Them All The Bird Won’t Fly At All, If You Clip Just A Few They Will Fly Just Less.
Absolutely against wing clipping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree! Clipping a bird for human convenience is horrible. It can lead to some truly serious health issues for an otherwise healthy bird. But there are cases when clipping is in the bird's best interests, like a blind bird who flies into walls all the time or a disabled one that can't fly properly and hurts itself, for example. In those cases, the benefits outweigh the risks.
Of course, those cases aren't what we're seeing in this clip! The budgie diagram is the most egregious. If a bird needs to be clipped, it should only be the primary flight feathers.
@@Rebecca_EnglishYes indeed. I live not too far from Dawlish town in Devon UK, and have been admiring the Black Swans here and watching them grow from tiny babies to near adult sized cygnets over 6 months. Only to realise that once they are big enough to fly, their wings are clipped!
I should have realized sooner, but am gutted now!
My bird sucks at flying and had a tendency to crash into everything so we had to clip so that he could fly slower and not break his neck on the wall
This should be only temporary, to train them and get them used to you and you to them. And also should be done properly without harming the bird.
not even to train them, you're training them by removing their ability to flee if they feel in danger and you can cause them psychological trauma. I've had birds all my life, I've trained them all, I've never had the need to trim a single feather in 26+ years
@@LeeYaoSan the point of keeping them around is to keep them off of danger, there’s not gonna be any need to flee for them, and as I said it should be done properly without harming the bird. My family has had birds for all their lives from doves to parakeets to hawks and eagles (for hunting) and they know well how to take care of them, it shouldn’t be done by someone without experience, if you chose not to do it good for you, but sometimes is the best for your bird and for you (not you specifically just talking generally). Is not permanent plus it can even only be done once in the birds lifetime, train it and let their wings grow, I didn’t need to do it because I had my birds since they didn’t have any feathers yet, and I taught them to fly myself, and I have had many birds before. But others might get the bird a bit later in their lives or they chose to be safer and be able to protect the bird enough until they train it properly, again as long as is done properly without harming the bird is all fine.
Bird Scientist in training here, people have to clip wings for simple yet safety ways, if birds are known to fly and you want them to be safe and secure in your house, you have to get their wings clipped to be able to keep them safe, it’s also a good way to check on them when they’re sick and you don’t want them flying around the house. Remember, you can clip your bird’s wings if it’s necessary or if it’s for a reason from a vet, don’t make people decide if clipping wings are abuse or not, it’s totally up to the owner’s decision and their vet’s decision too.
Thank you for your comment. We lost our very loved African grey by buying into this. We miss her every single day. Will never get over it.
@@sitwithus842I think it just depends. My African Lovebird went flying out the window, but came back.
@@DerpyOcto please please do more research. It’s not a good idea to clip a bird wings. It is a good idea to train a bird to fly. Birds are very intelligent and clipping their wings. Definitely changes the bond between you and the bird. through an unnecessary stressful situation. Not to mention to a bird it’s a pretty mean thing to do. They don’t look at it like oh well that’s OK.
In some cases, clipping the wings is beneficial. Ground dwelling birds like quail spend 100% of their life on the ground and only fly when they get scared. My quail burst upwards 10-20 feet when something spooks them, and this has caused them to hit their head on the top of the aviary and break their neck. I clip their wings to prevent them from hurting themselves.
It all depends on the bird species, for those that are wondering, parakeets don’t clip their wings. They are beauties chickens, clipped theirs, same of ducks toucans please don’t clip theirs. It doesn’t hurt them. I can promise you that.
It’s not about the fact whether it hurts them or not. It’s absolutely the wrong thing to do. It’s a bird. It’s life is to fly the right way to go about. It is to teach her how to fly training. It isn’t hard and it doesn’t take a lot of time Training a recall also doesn’t take a lot of time. It does cause mental issues hence why a lot of birds pluck their feathers or mutilate themselves also from a health point of view the time that bird uses its lungs and capacity when it’s flying. Please do some research. Just because it doesn’t create pain doesn’t mean it’s not a type of mutilation.
why would anyone want to modify a living being to their liking? People who do that don't care at all about the animal just what they can benefit from them, therefore shouldn't be able to have any animal at all
you can't do thst cutting bird's wing's😢😢😭😭😭❤❤😊😊 show love for bird's❤❤❤
Depends on the situation
Clipping birds wins on a bird you take out with you is for safety. I have 2 blue and gold macaws and a citron cockatoo. I take them out with me alot here in south Florida. We have eagles and tons of hawks. I keep my birds wings trimmed so in case something were to startle them they don't fly off and get hurt or worse get attacked. It's not that they can't fly they just can't gain hight. They can glide and keep themselves from falling. This is not crule when done correctly it is completely fine and doesn't hurt theres no nerve in there feathers to feel pain
I've never clipped my Cockatiels.
Absolutely do not clip your bird's wings! Never!!
I feel the same about dog tail docking, Unless it's a proper work dog which can be injured by getting it caught but then why aren't sheep dog tails docked ?
"it's breed standard its proper to have a tail docked" 🖕🏻
I didn't buy them, I found them helpless getting raid by crow
But if you only carefully clip a part, it makes it so it can fly but not gain too much altitude
And what does that benefit for you exactly?
@@aBitTedious they won't fly away?
@@aBitTediousfor it to not crash into a fucking window
@@saphira1159 train them
@@Birdpuffer that won't really work. With some types of birds, they are VERY consistent with trying to get away. Plus if you clip a small bit, they can still fly but they won't fly so fast that they hurt themselves.
People don’t realize that some people have to do this. For example. A CHICKEN IN A BIRD.
Only reason to clip is if they keep trying to fly and hurting them self form complications, and only as a last resort. My baby has taken half a year and still hasn’t grown every feather back from when the store clipped him. Having to retract him how to fly is awful, he’s flown before and you can tell he’s really sad and frustrated when he tries. Currently trying to build more muscle strength in his wings and hopefully that’ll help. His new molt isn’t horrible but it isn’t the best so he’ll probably have to wait another year for fresh flying feathers :(
If you "feel" the need to clip your pet birds wings, you don't know how to take care of birds and you don't know how to train them therefore, don't have a bird, in fact don't have any pet you don't know what their needs are
I interact with the wild birds around home. Never clip a birds wings. Never cage a bird unless taking it to a vet. Birds are meant to be free
Clipping is used(correctly) when a bird could harm itself when it flies
Birds are made to fly..
…..well not all birds are made to fly. To be fair
@@TheHollowBoy and here comes the besserwisser.. of course u had to mention the 1% who doesnt fly. I am soo sorry i shouldve said 99% are made to fly. U happy?
If you dont understand what wing clipping is maybe dont make a video
HARD AGREEEEEEE! Nobody in my household ever trimmed any birbs wings. Dont get something that could fly if you dont want to see it do what its made for ❤❤❤ Please enrich your birds. They need to fly daily!
If they are old and hurt themselves when they fly then it's fine. If the bird is I'll and needs time to recover then it's fine to clip but it's not supposed to be permanent
When I forst had budgies I asked my vet about clipping while training. They said to clip the first 3 flight feathers at the tips so they can still fly a little/glide to safety. I don't clip now but if I ever did, it would be that.
I don’t know, this is very popular to me. Birds fly. You wouldn’t cut off your dog’s legs, so don’t clip bird wings either
We did this once with our VERY wild cockatiels. We never did so again
I probably can understand, why would you do this to a chicken, that gonna became a soup or something else in few months, and you got like 50 of them. But what’s the point of buying an expensive pet bird, if you don’t want a flying pet?
This is what I don't want. Paid 5-10g for a bird. Flies away.
I’ve only done it a couple times and it was because they would hurt themselves flying
Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is the issue with clipping the wings? Is it similar to when you declaw a cat, where it causes health problems later? Im curious because if we know why it’s an issue, aside from making it so they can’t fly, we can understand it better to help get more knowledge about why it’s bad, out there to all the newbs.
I think most people know about declawing cats, and the issues. I’m not sure if the same can be said about clipping birds wings, as people assume it’s just like giving the bird a “haircut” like myself.
I remember I walked in to my aunt cutting her birds feathers. I didn’t know people clipped the feathers, I was so worried for the bird😭 I thought why have a bird if you’re gonna clip their wings?
Brother, this is not only happening people killing the animal and eating …have you heard about that one?😢😢😢😢😢😢 millions of chicken dying a day😢😢😢 what shall I do yesterday? I eat chicken biryani very nice.😢
No because if they fly away they will most likely die in the wild so wrong
I feel like this was a lot more common years ago, like 20. I thought you were supposed to and my mom did to my birds when I was young. But I think it's also a lack of knowledge as well especially now days. Now we have so many sources of good info so really there is no excuse. I personally think now it should only be done if it's for a healthy / safety reason for the individual animal..it shouldn't ever be done bc the owner doesn't want it to fly or their own personal gain. Have a great day
Worked at a pet store for many years and we would help owners clip wings only in certain cases...blindness, injury, etc. But if you take good care of your birds you really shouldn't need to. They don't hurt anybody.
I hate this kind of stuff, it’s so unnecessary and unfair to restrict your baby’s natural desires and behaviors for what I believe is simply a cosmetic purpose, same way people dock** (sorry if it’s not spelled right) their dog’s ears and make them super short causing infections at times, and lots of pain :(
Depends on the type of bird tbh, this would make more sense if it was exclusively speaking about clipping parrots and song birds
Flightless or partially flighted birds like chickens, quail, pheasant, game birds, or birds like ducks who could pose an invasivity issue need their wings clipped sometimes, to prevent them from jumping fences, many people free range their animals ... perosnally i think thats stupid and unsafe so i just have a massive covered run- never personally seen a point in clipping and jave never dome it because of that but i do know its the only option for those free ranging their domestic livestock type birds to prevent them from escaping, flying into roads or getting mauled or attacked by hawks
I don't think people should clip parrot wings but I have 6 chickens who's wings I clip they can still hop and hover just not over the fence
Only time I clip my chickens wings if they persist on jumping the fence since we got many many predators that would eat them. I don’t like doing it that’s why I do is extremely rarely of at most once a year. But there one of my sources of income so them living an laying eggs is kinda important.
Some of my chickens I don’t clip even if they jump the fence because they happily walk back with me to the coop for me to feed them.
Never clip a bird’s wings birds are meant to fly
Ya don't want them to fly-
Ya don't want them to have a good life
Ya don't want a flying animal, don't get a frickin flying animal 😡
What do u mean unpopular? Clipping wings is close to making someone bald when there hair actually helps with a function.
I don't know enough about this subject to form an opinion. Does it hurt the bird to clip their wings? What are arguments for and against wing clipping? Etc
In some cases it’s necessary. My caique is disabled one foot can’t grasp hard & he can’t fly even with all his feathers but if he was able to fly I may consider clipping him so he wouldn’t fall trying to land.
I think it depends. I oneday want to have two geese. A emden one and a canada one. The embden one would be to heavy to fly the canada on the other hand... I want to give them green pasture in my garden because its good for them but if one of them flys away bc a flock of canada geese is honking to south.... It wouldn't have the survival skills to live in the wild because they would be homebred. Also geese generally do well just walking flapping or swimming ^^
Idk I’m on a fb group for lost animals in my area and I see people posting their tropical birds all the time that fly away outside. We live in the Midwest, it’s summer now but some people are really dumb handling birds. I’m in the mindset of keep wild animals wild.
Wait i thought clipping wings was clipping a muscle on their inner wing? But you're telling me that people just take a pair of scissors and just cut the feathers? Only for the feathers to later fall out and new unclipped feathers take place?
Wild.
I am so glad to see people realizing that you should not clip a bird wings after all this time of people owning birds. Bird owners that want to clip their birds. Wings are just being lazy because they don’t want to train them to fly and a recall. There’s just no excuse for clipping a bird wings. It just means that the person that owns the bird doesn’t want to do what it takes to actually own a bird properly..
Indeed, the same with declawing cats. You can't just get rid of an animal's main defense and excuse it because of your human reasoning.
I had the same reaction to when I realized this is what they were doing to "clip" the wing. They should rename it to destroying the wing.
Lol... The wing and bone is fine. It "destroys" the feathers. This is made with keratin...like your hair, which grows back and sheds.
It doesn’t destroy the wing. The feathers grow back.
Regardless it's still curel
@@FukaiKokoro not when it’s necessary.
@FukaiKokoro then all your chickens will fly away...no food for you
For chickens, yes, so they don't escape their pen
We clipped our chickens wings for Their safety, they were outside and if they could fly out of their area they would get eaten by all sorts of things in the night. That is the only reason. (Also they weren’t pets. They were raised to make good eggs for us.)