Lex Fridman's Artificial Intelligence Podcast has been rising. Inspiring. Good young man, already a giant. Sean Carroll is pedagogy made human. His mind is quite organised, trained, all considering a high level of of intelligence, the best humanity has to offer. Hive mind, as "JustABunchofBees" implies, is devoloping our race to a new era. I talk too much, sorry for any unauthorised inference.
Buddhism rejects the theory of cosmic inflation. According to the explanations in Buddhism about the world and universe, the world starts to end during the contraction period of the universe which begins with a rain of liquid energy that destroys the world and heavenly worlds including material Brahma worlds within a duration called Sanvatta Asankhya Kalpa. The contraction of the universe continues without matterial worlds during Sanvattai Asankhya Kalpa. And then, the universe starts to expand with a rain of liquid energy called Sampatthi Mahamegha, during a similar period called Vivatta Asankhya Kalpa. Also, the duration of the further expansion (called Vivattai Asankhya Kalpa) that starts with the formation of worlds is similar to the duration of the first period of expansion that filled the universe with a rain of liquid energy beams (called Sampatthi Mahamegha), the rain that stopped falling, before the start of the formation of worlds that happens with the further expansion. Again, the universe contracts and destroy worlds during Sanvatta Asankhya Kalpa. Buddhism doesn't dismiss General Relativity to expand matter faster than light.
That's all true but to me *succinctness* is really the main thing (missing in your equation). Despite it being over two hours it really feels very concise, entertaining and on point.
As someone who never paid much attention to science or astrology growing up, and considers myself way out-of-field in the topic (a musician/music educator), I find your podcast so intriguing and fascinating to listen to. The way you communicate is very inviting, open-minded and non-condescending. It allows me to learn so many things I never thought I'd be interested in. Been hooked since your first appearance on Rogan. Congrats on 200 episodes!
Wow! The 200th episode of Mindscape! And I've been subscribed since the very first episode. Hard to believe it's been 4 years though. Time flies when you're having fun. Especially when you're learning new stuff everyday... 😏
It's good to learn new stuff every day. Here's a new thing to learn today: "every day", meaning in every 24-hour period of time, is two words. It is an adverbial phrase, following the same pattern as "every hour", "every week", and so on. You can tell that it is two words because you can add words in between the two words, as in "every other day", for example. The two-word adverbial phrase "every day" should not be confused with the single word "everyday", which is an adjective meaning either literally "happening or used every day" or more figuratively "encountered or used routinely or typically" or just "ordinary".
@@omp199 Something new for you to learn today: You are a douchebag. I have provided the definition below. I would also advise you to lookup the word "incel" as I'm quite sure that you are also one of those but perhaps not aware that there was a term for it. Noun. douchebag (plural douchebags) (US, slang, vulgar) A jerk or asshole; a mean or rude person; someone seen as being arrogant, snobby or obnoxious.
@@dannypowell594 Wow, you really are an obnoxious piece of work, aren't you? I went to the trouble of typing out some helpful information for the benefit of someone who had stated an interest in learning new things, thus helping them to learn a new thing. For you to have a fit of rage over one person helping another, and to _insult_ the person who is providing that help makes you seem not only breathtakingly rude but actually unhinged.
Congratulations for the 200th episode!!! thanks to Mindscape and similar content, we’are able to listen all these talks we wouldn’t have a chance to even know❤️❤️❤️
I absolutely love your work. Your book on time, the big ideas series, and especially the TTC lectures on dark matter that got me hooked on physics after getting hooked on philosophy from Daniel Robinson's TTC lectures on the great ideas of philosophy. Congrats on 200+ episodes and best wishes on your new commitments. You've made a huge impact in my life, I sincerely appreciate all the interviews too.
Sean, best of luck with your new responsibilities and in breaking down historic separations between important disciplines. If I’m feeling sad, I can locate a small corner of awe in my universe and I find some joy and happiness in doing just that. Cheers!
@@montyburnz i realize that, but i'm not as excited about those as i am worried about the nightmares. i think suffering is more bad than pleasure is good.
I think we could have a different approach to the Multiverse through the question "Why is there something instead of nothing?". The answer with the least amount of presuppositions is that EVERYTHING EXISTS. And existence has no rules a priori, so our consistent physics is just a coincidence. From this perspective, Boltzmann brains fall short since they assume that they exist because of QUANTUM fluctuations. But actually you have to take into account every possible instance in all of existence with a subjective experience identical to yours, and compare it to the instances of you in the subset of all existence that appears to have our rules.
If the universe is infinite and there an infinite number of you'd in the infinite universe due to how there are only a finite ways matter can come together, there's no reason why two of the copies of you -have- to be a long, long way from each other.
(31:00) *"I'm not creating a different region of space far away; I'm creating a whole other parallel universe. And it's not located anywhere. They just exist simultaneously."* ... And this parallel universe exists for what reason? By all other standards, Existence is efficient and expeditious. What is gained by more than one universe when everything that can be extrapolated from a single universe is mirrored in all others. "Multiverse" presents _special pleading_ for unnecessary multiplicity. *"There are many copies of my future self, so there's one copy of me right now. There's other copies that have descended from my past self, but here I am right now. There will be many descendants of my present self in all of these different worlds."* ... And why do these multiple versions of you exist when one version of you suffices? Eight billion humans produce a satisfactory amount and a variety of information. Why would infinite versions of eight billion individuals even be necessary? What is gained through this needless pleading for multiplicity?
Your questioning about "what reason" and talk of things being "necessary" and "unnecessary" are all misplaced. You seem to have a default assumption that the universe has a purpose and that the things that exist are only those that are required for that purpose. Drop the assumption of purpose, and all your questions become meaningless. Things are not necessary or unnecessary. They just are.
@@omp199 *"Your questioning about "what reason" and talk of things being "necessary" and "unnecessary" are all misplaced."* ... What IS known is that this "one" universe is essentially uniform (CMB), well-balanced (energy vs expansion), and highly efficient (2nd law of thermodynamics). The universe is not wasteful, and it operates by a specific set of rules (logic/physics). All of these components are "necessary" for the universe to operate like it does. ... Therefore, the onus is on the ones making the unfalsifiable claims of "Multiverse" (you) to prove that there is more than one universe and provide a logical basis for this supernatural belief. *"You seem to have a default assumption that the universe has a purpose and that the things that exist are only those that are required for that purpose."* ... The moment you set your alarm clock last night you demonstrated purpose. Everything you did this morning was purposeful all the way up to when you set your alarm clock tonight. Therefore, it is empirically established and demonstrated that *purpose absolutely exists* within the universe. The only remaining question is to what extent? However, there is ZERO empirical evidence of a multiverse, and the onus is on YOU to demonstrate that a multiverse exists at all. I have empirical, demonstratable, falsifiable evidence that purpose, logic, orchestration, and mathematics are essential ingredients within this "single" universe. ... Where is your evidence for a multiverse? *"Drop the assumption of purpose, and all your questions become meaningless."* ... I'm sorry, but I cannot simply ignore empirical evidence, and that evidence is "us" and the 4 billion years of life that preceded us. Life demonstrates a level of "purpose" operating within the universe and this is demonstrated by every purposeful thing we do every single day of our lives. It is not very scientific of you to simply ignore this fact, don't you think? *"Things are not necessary or unnecessary. They just are."* ... You are demonstrating the absolute lowest possible assessment of our universe by claiming _"it just is."_ You're standing on the lowest rung of the intellectual ladder, and the reason you think that way is because you "can." It doesn't mean that you are right; only that you "can" think that way. The opposite viewpoint (from your lowest possible level of consideration) is postulating an outrageously fantastic theory involving infinite numbers of universes with infinite versions of "us" populating these infinite universes that have no beginning nor have any end. Again, the reason you think that way is because you "can." It doesn't mean that you are right; only that you "can" think that way. You have a LOT to prove when forwarding crazy supernatural nonsense such as the multiverse, my friend. ... I suggest you get busy proving it before questioning others who prefer to remain grounded in logic.
Congratulation, You're doing a fabulous job. I've seen some of them. It is quite adictive. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, ideas and thoughts.👍
Outstanding. It’s so good to be able to learn and expand my knowledge of the topics Mr Carroll presents so to speak. I don’t pretend to fully understand everything but it matters not. And im in no doubt that’s how lots of us lay people feel about this podcast. Bravo 👍👍👏👏👏
Professor, congratulations, maybe I have missed some, but, from the beginning, I appreciated all your episodes. While my guitar gently weeps, if I actually had one...
From a free floating Boltzmann Brain and JHU alumnus, welcome to Maryland! Excited to hear about your move to JHU. Profs there are insanely hard working. You should fit in quite well.
Mad thought of the day: IF entropy were a conserved quantity, what would the corresponding fields and particles look like? (I'm thinking on cosmological scales of space and time here, in which entropy might be conserved on average over many cycles of the universe.)
Sounds like an undergrad level math error. Let's cut the R^3 into countable boxes (e.g. given by corner points Z^3 on some scale). Given particles take positions in the continuous R^3, we should have plenty of configurations to choose from, such that we can have one box (our observable universe) that looks entirely different from all the others.
One wishes Sean, having now achieved the highest authority over the awareness of all 20th Century Physics, focuses from now on - on the Energy available to the Observer who studies 21st Century Physics - literally, when the fuel tank of the Observer's car is empty, the grid electricity is blacked out for good, and food needs to be self-grown in the backyard. This class of an Observer prioritises what to be understood in Physics and Cosmology - first - for survival. I am confident Sean will realise soon how finite fossil fuels, put on the market cheaper than water, have played havoc with the mind set of the 20th Century Physics and Science. Going to Natural Philosophy - Sean can put the foundations of the 21st Century Physics - where Energy and the 2nd Law are never dismissed: "Energy, like time, flows from past to future".
What keeps me going is the hope that in some far away part of the universe, or the wavefunction, or in eternity, there is a version of me that understands all this. If there are infinite versions of me... why me? Is there a meta-me?
Ketamine is highly recommended it detatches the conscious from the body.. U can use floatation tanks or pure willpowers too but these can take lots of time and be hard for a closed mind to achieve so imo pushing the threshold with K is a very good way of showing someone untrained the other side.. Unless you can get your hands on a kyrenzov mirror? 1000s of untrained volunteers successfuly used those during a Russian test in the 90s.. We are born with wisdom that education and the system hide from 99% of ppl.. I was lucky enough to escape the brainwash as mum taught me a high level of maths n reading before i ever went school so i made sure to avoid their conditioning and remain myself free will intact! I accidentally taught myself and a friend a version of the cia gateway method too i never knew other ppl let alone the cia could do this stuff till 15yrs later this was 6 months ago wnen i read the gateway files and realized that the govr had been doing what we was doing 10yrs erlier!! Allof us deserve to know thesd skills its our birthright hidden from us at a young age and blocked replaced by ego conditioning and lies because if we remained as nature intended then everyone would be like me immune to lies propagandas and conditioning and that would ruin their hold over the masses.. They learned many things can trigger this during mk ultra and it un brainwashes soldiers whov had deep conditioning so it works miracles for the general public whov had slightly less abuse and training.. Im happy to answer anything i can but if u seek truth then just trust your self and senses above all else and you can become wiser than you could ever imagine.. Tesla knew..
Thanks. Congratulations on the new gig. You mentioned new teaching duties at JHU, I hope you'll be teaching undergrads. I've always felt the best professors should be teaching undergrads. The earlier you can hit them the stronger the impression you can make.
Philosophy, cosmology and the Multiverse, first hypothesized by a distant ancestor of mine - Thomas Wright of Byers Green, England circa 18th century. Perhaps a fairly out there theory, notwithstanding said theory I’m pleased to see his drawings are clearly reflected in the representations of the current thinking😎
I think that most people who call themselves "philosophers" aren't really doing philosophy. Philosophy is the love of thinking about reality, and the love of exploring all of the diverse models of existence, to figure out how they all fit together, like a puzzle, where all experiences of reality are pieces, and we have to find out where they all fit in to create a wholistic view of everything. If someone is telling you that your "logic is wrong", that's politics, as far as I'm concerned, not philosophy.
I like this idea of “which (you) are you?” (in a many worlds interpretation). It rings true of some type of quantum state or what might be “freedom” or degrees of freedom-that there is “agency” in this version of the universe-that there is “change” and it is actively happening in every now-that something is possible (in contrast to interpretations of time or the future being set in some way). It kind of reminds me of Lee Smolin’s recent idea about how the past is when the quantum becomes definite but that the now (or many worlds quantum wave function) is not definite but “becoming definite” perhaps. I don’t see why this idea this concept of quantum freedom-even in the case of a multiverse-wouldn’t be attractive to philosophy, especially existentialism. Perhaps the multiverse is the only way observers can truly have what we call freedom. Freedom can only exist in a multiverse.
1:51:46 This.... I have asked this question to quite a few professors in different universities. I have never got an directly response like this "Yes. the CMB is gradually changing because we are looking at different regions as time goes on"
Disclaimer unrelated to most of the content in the video - Sean Caroll doesn't understand Popper's theory. He understands most people misunderstand Popper, but he misunderstands him as well. Popper wrote refutations of bayseianism and the theory that theories have credences, that Sean seems to be oblivious about.
It always seemed to me that these bad anthropic arguments implicitly depend on the idea of a disembodied soul that is somehow randomly assigned to a specific body. Then "observers" is just code for "people with souls", and it makes sense to talk about the probability that you could have been a jovian or someone in the future or whatever. And I think this sort of thinking seems intuitive to most people even if they aren't religious, since religion is such a big part of our culture in general. But if you don't believe in souls then the whole thing immediately falls apart, since "you" are the result of your genetics combined with your specific life history, and if any of that changed then the result wouldn't be you anymore. So the only anthropic arguments that really make sense are the fully non-indexical ones, and the stuff about the mediocrity principle or observer classes just seem like attempts to make the soul-based reasoning seem more rigorous that it really is.
It is funny that such an unlikely and stupid idea as (if you ask me) Boltzman brains can be such a McGuffin for so many theories lol I loved your take down of fine tuning. It is the best refutation of fine tuning I have ever seen. You absolutely vaporized that theory 👍and wlc if you ask me
Multiverse theories, and string theory, are equally brilliant, in their ability to divert massive amounts of human capital, without making any falsifiable predictions about the real universe we live in. They've also been great for science fiction writers.
All Life-Unit's is Living Beings, our Local Universe, is a Life-Unit. All Universes is Life-Units, and all Life-Units is in Principle Universes. We might also say that all Life-Units is Life-Cell's. So, the Life-Unit-Princip, and the Perspective-Princip is the Key, to See, the Idea/Reality of Universes.
Multiverse theory cannot be tested, but it is saying something definite, so it doesn't have the problem of falsifiability, as Popper intended it. The argument about testability and falsifiability has often been used by atheist materialists in the past to counter notions about God. It seems like the argument that you are presenting in favour of multiverse theories could just as easily be applied for God, in that case. And since God is a simpler theory than multiverse theory, it is the more rational explanation.
If you're lost, which most of us are, realize he's speaking in theoretical constructs, as allowed by the mathematical probabilities. With all their understanding, they are still searching for a unified explanation of the fundamental underpinnings of the universe.
Physics and philosophy has always been curiosity to the max stuff ive enjoyed all my life. They are not two different sides of the same coin but living within the coin and being curious about the same thing maybe take Slightly different approach but yes both real interests and both same thing and different things to say about reality, the membrane manifold we live in that looks more empty and expansive, and is with respect....so worlds within worlds comes about with this logic and observation as far as we can see having scale and worlds within worlds...
Mindscape is indeed an appropriate description for what both the philosophy and the physics disciplines are exploring since the perception seems to be our reality. Can humans ever understand reality without the perception limiting its abilities? If yes, isn’t there a yet another way to describe the multiverse- one in which individuals, languages, values and cultures- become central to our perceived combined reality? Would that perhaps be societal spacetime, language spacetime and words spacetime instead of the cosmological/physical spacetime currently claimed to be studied?Could string theory be applied to the societal spacetime to confirm the link between matter and the abstract thoughts and the energies? And the presence of entanglements among all?
Now this is a hard one. But again I have a feeling somehow similar every time. At the end of the day (or the bottom line or the last/final conclusion etc) it is always about entropy-decoherence-(toward)equilibrium and that’s it. Or to use my favorite ancient wisdom: as above so below - as it is the macrocosmos so it is the microcosmos (or the galaxy-or the solar system-or the earth-or the cell-or the atom-or any smaller sytem… And of course: wawe function (vibrations, fluctuations) for ever! 😉
I have an observation regarding the multiverse conjecture and our universe. The mathematics of the multiverse stems from the 1 - the probability of the collapsed waveform, and because we know with a high probability because of collapsed waveform. What I observe is that the math is infinitely reducible by decimal, to give "infinite" possibilities. But what about the finiteness of the universe, with a bottom value of Planck's constant? Does Planck's constant limit the number of multiverses, or rule it out entirely because infinite math isn't supported by finite reality?
isn't a universe that produces minds less complex than a mind itself? the universe didn't start with minds, they evolved out of simpler conditions. i don't get why boltzmann brains are more likely than these evolved minds.
Assume the event horizon of a black hole creates a holographic representation of the object falling thru. If mass is converted to energy at the singularity and Einstein and Rosen were right about worm holes, could a new universe be created in a worm hole? It would certainly explain why space is expanding faster than the speed of light
"WHY?" Is a query for which science has no solution nor has solving for such abstractions ever been requisite for a perfectly functional science. The task of solving for HOW? Describing the orientations of those solutions in spacetime and the resultant generation of a plurality of brand new "HOWS".
One issue I have with the "observer first" theory and using the qualifier "I" when surmising likelihoods or probabilities is that there is no definition for "I" other than a subjective experience that has no fundamental explanation or actual measurable locality of any real precision. It is impossible for an observer to deduce probabilities of what is unobservable especially when it can't logically assume anything about it's own qualities. An observer can't even predict it's own locality in the future beyond the uncertainty principle, much less anything else about the unobservable universe/multiverse it finds itself in. Any observation is a measurement of the past by definition, and qft clearly shows that the present cannot be precisely predicted by the past because of the uncertainty principle, so an observer can't even predict which "branch" of the multiverse it is currently in, much less which it will be in in the future... So any prediction it attempts to make is not precise and becomes more imprecise the further into the future it is predicting. That of course doesn't make the questions illogical, just fundamentally unknowable unless the hidden variable interpretation turns out to be true and we discover what the hidden variables actually are... Which is unlikely by all the evidence we have today. The more we try to define "I" as the subjective observer, the more we find that "I" becomes an amorphous concept.
When alien life and our densely populated solar system (and multiverse beyond) are unquestionably revealed to sceptical, mainstream, reductionist scientists - You sir, will be one of the 1st "scientists" whose reaction will be a "poignant" experience to witness!
Sean Carroll in another universe is arguing against this crazy Sean Carroll
And in another universe Sean Carroll is the Pope.
@@johnnytass2111 all hail
Funny but true
😂😂😂
I like your talks… you’re honest and you speak with clarity.
I don't understand any of this, and fascinated at the same time. My family has no idea of the the things I think about lol
Knowledge+curiosity+integrity+genuine laugh=your success. Best science podcast on the internet today!
Lex Fridman's Artificial Intelligence Podcast has been rising. Inspiring.
Good young man, already a giant.
Sean Carroll is pedagogy made human.
His mind is quite organised, trained, all considering a high level of of intelligence, the best humanity has to offer.
Hive mind, as "JustABunchofBees" implies, is devoloping our race to a new era.
I talk too much, sorry for any unauthorised inference.
Seconded
Buddhism rejects the theory of cosmic inflation. According to the explanations in Buddhism about the world and universe, the world starts to end during the contraction period of the universe which begins with a rain of liquid energy that destroys the world and heavenly worlds including material Brahma worlds within a duration called Sanvatta Asankhya Kalpa. The contraction of the universe continues without matterial worlds during Sanvattai Asankhya Kalpa. And then, the universe starts to expand with a rain of liquid energy called Sampatthi Mahamegha, during a similar period called Vivatta Asankhya Kalpa. Also, the duration of the further expansion (called Vivattai Asankhya Kalpa) that starts with the formation of worlds is similar to the duration of the first period of expansion that filled the universe with a rain of liquid energy beams (called Sampatthi Mahamegha), the rain that stopped falling, before the start of the formation of worlds that happens with the further expansion. Again, the universe contracts and destroy worlds during Sanvatta Asankhya Kalpa. Buddhism doesn't dismiss General Relativity to expand matter faster than light.
That's all true but to me *succinctness* is really the main thing (missing in your equation). Despite it being over two hours it really feels very concise, entertaining and on point.
@@peterp-a-n4743 that’s all true but potatoes
Congrats! I hugely appreciate it that great physicist and other scientistss are willing to share and explain their insights over here
A World Class Educator is what you are Sean 👑 Kudos and many, many thanks from sunny Ireland 🇮🇪
As someone who never paid much attention to science or astrology growing up, and considers myself way out-of-field in the topic (a musician/music educator), I find your podcast so intriguing and fascinating to listen to. The way you communicate is very inviting, open-minded and non-condescending. It allows me to learn so many things I never thought I'd be interested in. Been hooked since your first appearance on Rogan. Congrats on 200 episodes!
Wow! The 200th episode of Mindscape! And I've been subscribed since the very first episode. Hard to believe it's been 4 years though. Time flies when you're having fun. Especially when you're learning new stuff everyday... 😏
It's good to learn new stuff every day.
Here's a new thing to learn today: "every day", meaning in every 24-hour period of time, is two words. It is an adverbial phrase, following the same pattern as "every hour", "every week", and so on. You can tell that it is two words because you can add words in between the two words, as in "every other day", for example.
The two-word adverbial phrase "every day" should not be confused with the single word "everyday", which is an adjective meaning either literally "happening or used every day" or more figuratively "encountered or used routinely or typically" or just "ordinary".
@@omp199 Something new for you to learn today: You are a douchebag. I have provided the definition below. I would also advise you to lookup the word "incel" as I'm quite sure that you are also one of those but perhaps not aware that there was a term for it.
Noun. douchebag (plural douchebags) (US, slang, vulgar) A jerk or asshole; a mean or rude person; someone seen as being arrogant, snobby or obnoxious.
@@dannypowell594 Wow, you really are an obnoxious piece of work, aren't you?
I went to the trouble of typing out some helpful information for the benefit of someone who had stated an interest in learning new things, thus helping them to learn a new thing.
For you to have a fit of rage over one person helping another, and to _insult_ the person who is providing that help makes you seem not only breathtakingly rude but actually unhinged.
Glad to hear the Ask Anything episodes will continue...I was worried there for a moment!
I hope that some of the other versions of me are having more fun!
But more seriously, great episode, great series. Congratulations!
An infinite number of you are having more fun but not the infinite number who were just diagnosed with terminal illness. Infinity is big isn't it?
Congratulations for the 200th episode!!! thanks to Mindscape and similar content, we’are able to listen all these talks we wouldn’t have a chance to even know❤️❤️❤️
I absolutely love your work. Your book on time, the big ideas series, and especially the TTC lectures on dark matter that got me hooked on physics after getting hooked on philosophy from Daniel Robinson's TTC lectures on the great ideas of philosophy.
Congrats on 200+ episodes and best wishes on your new commitments. You've made a huge impact in my life, I sincerely appreciate all the interviews too.
Wow! The arguments you make are blowing my mind like 10 to the 140. Thanks! Enjoying your talks more and more.
Sean, best of luck with your new responsibilities and in breaking down historic separations between important disciplines. If I’m feeling sad, I can locate a small corner of awe in my universe and I find some joy and happiness in doing just that. Cheers!
The Monty Hall problem is similar to this observer/world first approach problem but framed in a game show. And Congratulations on 200!!
Congrats Sean and every mindscape community member.🤗🤗
Congrats on the milestone, Sean.
Thanks for using milestone instead of kilometer-stone 💖
Congratulations!!!🎈🍾 🎉🍾🎈
i find the infinite multiverse scenario terrifying, since presumably it means all your worst nightmares somewhere come true.
All your good dreams too. :)
@@montyburnz i realize that, but i'm not as excited about those as i am worried about the nightmares. i think suffering is more bad than pleasure is good.
I prefer hearing you alone, I think... That was my favorite podcast so far.
"I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers."
Sean Carrol has discovered the plural to Everything.
Bravo thank you for your time and the good work you do
I think we could have a different approach to the Multiverse through the question "Why is there something instead of nothing?". The answer with the least amount of presuppositions is that EVERYTHING EXISTS. And existence has no rules a priori, so our consistent physics is just a coincidence.
From this perspective, Boltzmann brains fall short since they assume that they exist because of QUANTUM fluctuations. But actually you have to take into account every possible instance in all of existence with a subjective experience identical to yours, and compare it to the instances of you in the subset of all existence that appears to have our rules.
What do you mean by Boltzmann brains falling short?
Take as much time as you need. Thanks for everything!
Belated congratulations on four years🥳. My favorite podcast, especially the AMA episodes.
If the universe is infinite and there an infinite number of you'd in the infinite universe due to how there are only a finite ways matter can come together, there's no reason why two of the copies of you -have- to be a long, long way from each other.
thanks for all the podcasts sean!
*Sean, I want to thank you for bringing me joy with all these mind bending episodes. You are appreciated!* ❤
(31:00) *"I'm not creating a different region of space far away; I'm creating a whole other parallel universe. And it's not located anywhere. They just exist simultaneously."*
... And this parallel universe exists for what reason? By all other standards, Existence is efficient and expeditious. What is gained by more than one universe when everything that can be extrapolated from a single universe is mirrored in all others. "Multiverse" presents _special pleading_ for unnecessary multiplicity.
*"There are many copies of my future self, so there's one copy of me right now. There's other copies that have descended from my past self, but here I am right now. There will be many descendants of my present self in all of these different worlds."*
... And why do these multiple versions of you exist when one version of you suffices? Eight billion humans produce a satisfactory amount and a variety of information. Why would infinite versions of eight billion individuals even be necessary? What is gained through this needless pleading for multiplicity?
Your questioning about "what reason" and talk of things being "necessary" and "unnecessary" are all misplaced. You seem to have a default assumption that the universe has a purpose and that the things that exist are only those that are required for that purpose. Drop the assumption of purpose, and all your questions become meaningless. Things are not necessary or unnecessary. They just are.
@@omp199 *"Your questioning about "what reason" and talk of things being "necessary" and "unnecessary" are all misplaced."*
... What IS known is that this "one" universe is essentially uniform (CMB), well-balanced (energy vs expansion), and highly efficient (2nd law of thermodynamics). The universe is not wasteful, and it operates by a specific set of rules (logic/physics).
All of these components are "necessary" for the universe to operate like it does. ... Therefore, the onus is on the ones making the unfalsifiable claims of "Multiverse" (you) to prove that there is more than one universe and provide a logical basis for this supernatural belief.
*"You seem to have a default assumption that the universe has a purpose and that the things that exist are only those that are required for that purpose."*
... The moment you set your alarm clock last night you demonstrated purpose. Everything you did this morning was purposeful all the way up to when you set your alarm clock tonight. Therefore, it is empirically established and demonstrated that *purpose absolutely exists* within the universe. The only remaining question is to what extent?
However, there is ZERO empirical evidence of a multiverse, and the onus is on YOU to demonstrate that a multiverse exists at all.
I have empirical, demonstratable, falsifiable evidence that purpose, logic, orchestration, and mathematics are essential ingredients within this "single" universe. ... Where is your evidence for a multiverse?
*"Drop the assumption of purpose, and all your questions become meaningless."*
... I'm sorry, but I cannot simply ignore empirical evidence, and that evidence is "us" and the 4 billion years of life that preceded us. Life demonstrates a level of "purpose" operating within the universe and this is demonstrated by every purposeful thing we do every single day of our lives.
It is not very scientific of you to simply ignore this fact, don't you think?
*"Things are not necessary or unnecessary. They just are."*
... You are demonstrating the absolute lowest possible assessment of our universe by claiming _"it just is."_ You're standing on the lowest rung of the intellectual ladder, and the reason you think that way is because you "can." It doesn't mean that you are right; only that you "can" think that way.
The opposite viewpoint (from your lowest possible level of consideration) is postulating an outrageously fantastic theory involving infinite numbers of universes with infinite versions of "us" populating these infinite universes that have no beginning nor have any end.
Again, the reason you think that way is because you "can." It doesn't mean that you are right; only that you "can" think that way.
You have a LOT to prove when forwarding crazy supernatural nonsense such as the multiverse, my friend. ... I suggest you get busy proving it before questioning others who prefer to remain grounded in logic.
Congratulations 🎊 200 episode , tremendous channel !
Congratulation, You're doing a fabulous job. I've seen some of them. It is quite adictive. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, ideas and thoughts.👍
This channel is going to explode soon!
Congratulation sean!! Amazing podcast
utility Incrementing channel
Outstanding.
It’s so good to be able to learn and expand my knowledge of the topics Mr Carroll presents so to speak.
I don’t pretend to fully understand everything but it matters not.
And im in no doubt that’s how lots of us lay people feel about this podcast.
Bravo 👍👍👏👏👏
Congrats! It has been great fun!🙂👍🇸🇪
58:50 oh my god you've just explained why my mum drives me up the wall lol
We are tremendously lucky to have your contributions across so many disciplines. "Thinking carefully" could be your motto or even a mission statement.
I’m in Baltimore city & live in Roland Park. Welcome to the neighborhood!
Great show!! Thanks Sean.
Mindscape podcast keeps getting better and better.
Professor, congratulations, maybe I have missed some, but, from the beginning, I appreciated all your episodes.
While my guitar gently weeps, if I actually had one...
Thank you for your time
lets get a 1000 episodes
From a free floating Boltzmann Brain and JHU alumnus, welcome to Maryland! Excited to hear about your move to JHU. Profs there are insanely hard working. You should fit in quite well.
Happy Birthday! 🍰 🎉 🍾
I'm not worried about appearing as a Boltzmann brain somewhere in the deep future of the universe because I'm still waiting for a brain here and now.
Mad thought of the day: IF entropy were a conserved quantity, what would the corresponding fields and particles look like? (I'm thinking on cosmological scales of space and time here, in which entropy might be conserved on average over many cycles of the universe.)
Congratulations Sean and well done
Sounds like an undergrad level math error. Let's cut the R^3 into countable boxes (e.g. given by corner points Z^3 on some scale). Given particles take positions in the continuous R^3, we should have plenty of configurations to choose from, such that we can have one box (our observable universe) that looks entirely different from all the others.
I BELIEVE THE MULTIVERSE MAY BE A FACT. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE CONFORMAL CYCLIC COSMOLOGY MAY BE A FACT.❤
What I like to consider is what will 'emerge' in the future.
Going by the past emergences, it could be amazing yet again.
One wishes Sean, having now achieved the highest authority over the awareness of all 20th Century Physics, focuses from now on - on the Energy available to the Observer who studies 21st Century Physics - literally, when the fuel tank of the Observer's car is empty, the grid electricity is blacked out for good, and food needs to be self-grown in the backyard.
This class of an Observer prioritises what to be understood in Physics and Cosmology - first - for survival.
I am confident Sean will realise soon how finite fossil fuels, put on the market cheaper than water, have played havoc with the mind set of the 20th Century Physics and Science.
Going to Natural Philosophy - Sean can put the foundations of the 21st Century Physics - where Energy and the 2nd Law are never dismissed:
"Energy, like time, flows from past to future".
I wish i could donate to your patreon. All i have to offer is my gratitude
Talk starts @8:30
What keeps me going is the hope that in some far away part of the universe, or the wavefunction, or in eternity, there is a version of me that understands all this.
If there are infinite versions of me... why me? Is there a meta-me?
Ketamine is highly recommended it detatches the conscious from the body.. U can use floatation tanks or pure willpowers too but these can take lots of time and be hard for a closed mind to achieve so imo pushing the threshold with K is a very good way of showing someone untrained the other side.. Unless you can get your hands on a kyrenzov mirror? 1000s of untrained volunteers successfuly used those during a Russian test in the 90s.. We are born with wisdom that education and the system hide from 99% of ppl.. I was lucky enough to escape the brainwash as mum taught me a high level of maths n reading before i ever went school so i made sure to avoid their conditioning and remain myself free will intact! I accidentally taught myself and a friend a version of the cia gateway method too i never knew other ppl let alone the cia could do this stuff till 15yrs later this was 6 months ago wnen i read the gateway files and realized that the govr had been doing what we was doing 10yrs erlier!! Allof us deserve to know thesd skills its our birthright hidden from us at a young age and blocked replaced by ego conditioning and lies because if we remained as nature intended then everyone would be like me immune to lies propagandas and conditioning and that would ruin their hold over the masses.. They learned many things can trigger this during mk ultra and it un brainwashes soldiers whov had deep conditioning so it works miracles for the general public whov had slightly less abuse and training.. Im happy to answer anything i can but if u seek truth then just trust your self and senses above all else and you can become wiser than you could ever imagine.. Tesla knew..
Thanks. Congratulations on the new gig. You mentioned new teaching duties at JHU, I hope you'll be teaching undergrads. I've always felt the best professors should be teaching undergrads. The earlier you can hit them the stronger the impression you can make.
Congratulations Sean - well done.
Philosophy, cosmology and the Multiverse, first hypothesized by a distant ancestor of mine - Thomas Wright of Byers Green, England circa 18th century. Perhaps a fairly out there theory, notwithstanding said theory I’m pleased to see his drawings are clearly reflected in the representations of the current thinking😎
Wow ,has it been four year’s already.
I'm sure there was a 'monty hall problem' solution going on at one point, brill.
I love the way you always give due credit to your colleagues and graduate students. It's a measure of true character.
Sean, please have Peter Woit on the podcast. Would love his perspective on ideas like the multiverse/anthropic principle.
Happy Anniversary. Congratulations on the milestone. I look forward to your future podcasts.
Congratulations. Love you podcast
I think that most people who call themselves "philosophers" aren't really doing philosophy. Philosophy is the love of thinking about reality, and the love of exploring all of the diverse models of existence, to figure out how they all fit together, like a puzzle, where all experiences of reality are pieces, and we have to find out where they all fit in to create a wholistic view of everything. If someone is telling you that your "logic is wrong", that's politics, as far as I'm concerned, not philosophy.
Congratulations!!!
I like this idea of “which (you) are you?” (in a many worlds interpretation). It rings true of some type of quantum state or what might be “freedom” or degrees of freedom-that there is “agency” in this version of the universe-that there is “change” and it is actively happening in every now-that something is possible (in contrast to interpretations of time or the future being set in some way). It kind of reminds me of Lee Smolin’s recent idea about how the past is when the quantum becomes definite but that the now (or many worlds quantum wave function) is not definite but “becoming definite” perhaps. I don’t see why this idea this concept of quantum freedom-even in the case of a multiverse-wouldn’t be attractive to philosophy, especially existentialism. Perhaps the multiverse is the only way observers can truly have what we call freedom. Freedom can only exist in a multiverse.
1:51:46 This.... I have asked this question to quite a few professors in different universities. I have never got an directly response like this "Yes. the CMB is gradually changing because we are looking at different regions as time goes on"
how did you end up at multiple different universities?
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I transferred during undergrad, and I'm now a grad student (for Phd.).
Bring Barry Loewer to talk about Philosophy of Cosmology!
Congratulations Professor Carroll! ^.^
I’m re listening to this. So fascinating.
Multiverse seems rather obvious to me, since when you go smaller there are limits; hardly when you go bigger / larger/ hotter
Disclaimer unrelated to most of the content in the video - Sean Caroll doesn't understand Popper's theory. He understands most people misunderstand Popper, but he misunderstands him as well.
Popper wrote refutations of bayseianism and the theory that theories have credences, that Sean seems to be oblivious about.
This is beyond awesome!
congratulations! and thank you for one of the most enjoyable podcasts around.
It always seemed to me that these bad anthropic arguments implicitly depend on the idea of a disembodied soul that is somehow randomly assigned to a specific body. Then "observers" is just code for "people with souls", and it makes sense to talk about the probability that you could have been a jovian or someone in the future or whatever. And I think this sort of thinking seems intuitive to most people even if they aren't religious, since religion is such a big part of our culture in general.
But if you don't believe in souls then the whole thing immediately falls apart, since "you" are the result of your genetics combined with your specific life history, and if any of that changed then the result wouldn't be you anymore. So the only anthropic arguments that really make sense are the fully non-indexical ones, and the stuff about the mediocrity principle or observer classes just seem like attempts to make the soul-based reasoning seem more rigorous that it really is.
It is funny that such an unlikely and stupid idea as (if you ask me) Boltzman brains can be such a McGuffin for so many theories lol
I loved your take down of fine tuning. It is the best refutation of fine tuning I have ever seen. You absolutely vaporized that theory 👍and wlc if you ask me
Multiverse theories, and string theory, are equally brilliant, in their ability to divert massive amounts of human capital, without making any falsifiable predictions about the real universe we live in. They've also been great for science fiction writers.
All Life-Unit's is Living Beings, our Local Universe, is a Life-Unit.
All Universes is Life-Units, and all Life-Units is in Principle Universes.
We might also say that all Life-Units is Life-Cell's.
So, the Life-Unit-Princip, and the Perspective-Princip is the Key,
to See, the Idea/Reality of Universes.
Multiverse theory cannot be tested, but it is saying something definite, so it doesn't have the problem of falsifiability, as Popper intended it. The argument about testability and falsifiability has often been used by atheist materialists in the past to counter notions about God. It seems like the argument that you are presenting in favour of multiverse theories could just as easily be applied for God, in that case. And since God is a simpler theory than multiverse theory, it is the more rational explanation.
Another fascinating talk.
Keep it up sir ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Love from India
Wow I have watched a lot of Mindscapes
In the string multiverse, wouldn't you eventually tunnel to the ground state, i.e. some negative CC and then the universe would eventually crunch?
Empty space is full of the dark matter some people think is surrounding galaxies.
If you're lost, which most of us are, realize he's speaking in theoretical constructs, as allowed by the mathematical probabilities. With all their understanding, they are still searching for a unified explanation of the fundamental underpinnings of the universe.
Statistics make me dizzy and infinity makes me even more dizzy. You could sell me anything with this combination :D
Now I should congratulate you for an exceptional lecture, although a second hearing is required, at least. Excellence.
Physics and philosophy has always been curiosity to the max stuff ive enjoyed all my life. They are not two different sides of the same coin but living within the coin and being curious about the same thing maybe take Slightly different approach but yes both real interests and both same thing and different things to say about reality, the membrane manifold we live in that looks more empty and expansive, and is with respect....so worlds within worlds comes about with this logic and observation as far as we can see having scale and worlds within worlds...
Some say that is a more philosophical way of saying it but it is what we conscious beings observe, relatively.
I absolutely love you but, drinking game every time he says “so I wrote a paper on this”
This was a pleasure to listen to
Mindscape is indeed an appropriate description for what both the philosophy and the physics disciplines are exploring since the perception seems to be our reality. Can humans ever understand reality without the perception limiting its abilities? If yes, isn’t there a yet another way to describe the multiverse- one in which individuals, languages, values and cultures- become central to our perceived combined reality? Would that perhaps be societal spacetime, language spacetime and words spacetime instead of the cosmological/physical spacetime currently claimed to be studied?Could string theory be applied to the societal spacetime to confirm the link between matter and the abstract thoughts and the energies? And the presence of entanglements among all?
Now this is a hard one. But again I have a feeling somehow similar every time. At the end of the day (or the bottom line or the last/final conclusion etc) it is always about entropy-decoherence-(toward)equilibrium and that’s it. Or to use my favorite ancient wisdom: as above so below - as it is the macrocosmos so it is the microcosmos (or the galaxy-or the solar system-or the earth-or the cell-or the atom-or any smaller sytem… And of course: wawe function (vibrations, fluctuations) for ever! 😉
I have an observation regarding the multiverse conjecture and our universe. The mathematics of the multiverse stems from the 1 - the probability of the collapsed waveform, and because we know with a high probability because of collapsed waveform.
What I observe is that the math is infinitely reducible by decimal, to give "infinite" possibilities.
But what about the finiteness of the universe, with a bottom value of Planck's constant?
Does Planck's constant limit the number of multiverses, or rule it out entirely because infinite math isn't supported by finite reality?
isn't a universe that produces minds less complex than a mind itself? the universe didn't start with minds, they evolved out of simpler conditions. i don't get why boltzmann brains are more likely than these evolved minds.
Assume the event horizon of a black hole creates a holographic representation of the object falling thru. If mass is converted to energy at the singularity and Einstein and Rosen were right about worm holes, could a new universe be created in a worm hole? It would certainly explain why space is expanding faster than the speed of light
"WHY?" Is a query for which science has no solution nor has solving for such abstractions ever been requisite for a perfectly functional science. The task of solving for HOW? Describing the orientations of those solutions in spacetime and the resultant generation of a plurality of brand new "HOWS".
One issue I have with the "observer first" theory and using the qualifier "I" when surmising likelihoods or probabilities is that there is no definition for "I" other than a subjective experience that has no fundamental explanation or actual measurable locality of any real precision. It is impossible for an observer to deduce probabilities of what is unobservable especially when it can't logically assume anything about it's own qualities. An observer can't even predict it's own locality in the future beyond the uncertainty principle, much less anything else about the unobservable universe/multiverse it finds itself in.
Any observation is a measurement of the past by definition, and qft clearly shows that the present cannot be precisely predicted by the past because of the uncertainty principle, so an observer can't even predict which "branch" of the multiverse it is currently in, much less which it will be in in the future... So any prediction it attempts to make is not precise and becomes more imprecise the further into the future it is predicting. That of course doesn't make the questions illogical, just fundamentally unknowable unless the hidden variable interpretation turns out to be true and we discover what the hidden variables actually are... Which is unlikely by all the evidence we have today.
The more we try to define "I" as the subjective observer, the more we find that "I" becomes an amorphous concept.
An observation in physics is an irreversible energy transfer. Everything else follows from that in a more or less trivial fashion.
I'll bet my other selves have human rights. Ow! Ouch!❤
When alien life and our densely populated solar system (and multiverse beyond) are unquestionably revealed to sceptical, mainstream,
reductionist scientists - You sir, will be one of the 1st "scientists" whose reaction will be a "poignant" experience to witness!