The irony of the mad donkey being the sane person. He knew exactly who was responsible for the puppet outbreak, and that you were an agent of furthering that chaos.
oh i always thought he was saying this cause he keep the memories of us if we die and comeback , since at the end even simon told u "so she was supporting you by rewind time each times"
The owl doctor is Watson. The apartment is 221b which is a reference to 221b Baker Street, the apartment of Sherlock Holmes and John Watson. The owl doctors uniform is actively a British army doctor uniform
@@kitetales yeah there are a bunch of subtle ones, and some that aren't so subtle. Like I'm sure you noticed the portrait of Carlo that grows the wooden nose was painted by Dorian Gray
Three things I've noticed on my 3rd and current playthrough: - The Survivor wears a mask that's literally two-faced; right side a white mouse and the left either a black rat or a cat of some kind. As the Rookie stalker's masks are chosen by their superiors, whoay have seen how cowardly and deceitful he was. - the Survivor's "brother" is named Leo, which could reference a lion, which tells of how different they were, maybe even a reference to the Mouse and Lion fable. His outfit also mentions noble and Pride, which are traits associated with lions. - The red Apple you can buy and give to Adelina, may be a Snow White reference, as she was seen as the most beautiful Belladonna in Krat and dies not soon after we give her said apple. The Major difference is that she wasn't poisened by an older sister and here it's the other way around.
That is such a great observation about The Survivor and Leo, that is absolutely a reference to a lion and a mouse which is a really common theme in fairytales and parables! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on that! 😊
@@MrBlueWaooWaoo never made that connection, but if Leo turns out to be alive and also ran away, that could fit, although it may be hard to link it, without knowing more about Leo and the Survivor's past.
Legendary stalker might be Lady Antonia, because she hinted she was "fierce" in her youth, and she knew Carlo, was closest friend of Gepetto, and has ties with alchemists.
Another possible hint can be found in her portrait after the attack on hotel Krat. The drawing on her portrait shows her with antlers and as most/all stalkers wear animal themed masks it's possible that if she used to be a stalker her animal was something like a stag
She could be the one we see on the alchemist isle when we interact with the snow people memories she could be that stalker that Romeo or Carlo was asking to teach them how to fight
One of the Korean lies of P lore videos talked about a theory of Antonia = legendary stalker = Isabelle Monad Considering there were written texts in the game regarding La Bleiwis wine having a cherry scent, which there's a text that the legendary stalker also enjoyed this particular wine, and Antonia's final letter to us indicating that the letter was cherry-scented. Also regarding Antonia's affluence and the game providing zero indication of the house "Cerasani" which is Antonia's last name. Most of the other rich houses such as Volfe or Monad are mentioned frequently but considering Antonia's reputation of being noble, ladylike, and having enough capital to purchase a "haunted" place to renovate into Hotel Krat...is odd (according to the lore theory vid). So it could be that Isabelle Monad left her former name behind after all the incident regarding Valentinus & Sofia, then started using a different name. Antonia also sounds like she cares a lot about P, which may have come from her sentiment towards Carlo, in which she saw him die. And with P resembling Carlo, Antonia gives him the clothes he used to wear during his time at Monad Charity House and cares about him too. I mean this is one game theory but I think it makes a lot of sense connecting the dots
This was amazing! I love your style and storytelling. Its early days but you could be the Vaati Vidya for Lies of P! Thanks for another excellent video!
I love listening to Souls game lore as I fall asleep and you've absolutely overtaken Vaati as my favorite. The way you depict the world and your voice are just perfect. Thanks for the content
Good dude it’s cool you recognize people that work hard like her. Because Vaati is a known plagiarist & is a soulless shill at this point. I’d rather watch this channel any day
Carlo may have died in the workshop collapse too. It couldn't just have been the petrification disease because the legendary stalker monologue about arriving too late would make no sense. The other possibility is that he was buried alive and either died of asphyxion or thirst and said Stalker found him just too late.
I was about to comment the same thing - lots of people speculate he died from the Petrification disease, but it doesn't make any sense from the Legendary Stalkers dialogue. Also, if he graduated, he shouldn't have been at the monad house (maybe). I wondered if the grave by the Malum District with the smiling bunny mark is Carlo's grave, since it's by the inactive stargazer that's likely for DLC purposes. If Carlo was an active stalker, the Black Rabbits must have known him (especially as Carlo and Romeo seemed to hang out in the Red Lobster Inn). This would explain why the BRB would recognize Carlo's visage right away and assume he's Geppeto's puppet, since they'd know Carlo is dead (of course, this may just be from the fact they have the portrait) This may also explain why the Mad Donkey also recognizes P for what he is. He may have been comrades with Carlo, which may explain his dialogue. Obviously this is pretty speculative.
@@CassielSardavic Yeah, I have seen a lot of 'Mad Donkey is breaking the 4th wall' theory, but if you take the idea he was friend with Carlo and Romeo, he may have actually cornered Gepetto because he wanted to know what happened to them, recognize us because of our ressemblance with Carlo (for who he guilt over and have dreams/nightmares about)
So turns out I was wrong. There is a title screen bit that says "Geppetto's son died of the Petrification disease" and then about how this effected Geppetto - I just finished NG+4 and I saw during the flash back of the Legendary Stalker that Carlo's body is still wearing the charity house school uniform. I thought because he graduated he would be in his late teens (and Geppetto made the puppet look younger to harken back to better days when they were "a happy family"), but it doesn't appear so - he dies in the Rose Estate Incident, which coupled with the uniform, would imply that he was still a student. I am assuming this was like a middle/elementary school graduation and he would be moving on to more adavanced studies. I am not sure how the school system works in Korea, so I am not sure the time line/age cut off.
@@maxentirunosbest theory I’ve seen so far is that mad donkey is lampwick the third friend mentioned in the memories on the alchemist island. It would make sense as to why he knew geppetto was up to know good and instantly recognized your body and called you the devils puppet
Theory - Carlo wasn't killed by the disease, he was killed in the battle of the workshop. And his mentor failed him. My prediction is the legendary stalker was/is Red Fox. She then took on another "little brother" in Black Cat. I believe that's why she says - "I don't want to fight, not you anyway". Of course I could be 100% wrong: )
ok so this is a COMPLETE shot in the dark but I think it might be possible we actually meet the legendary stalker again in the game there's a certain questline where you get a certain wine for this old lady its the same exact wine that the paper said the legendary stalker liked! not to mention the reward we get is a vintage collectable for viginni the coin it says it was given to its founding supporting members so this person was involved with the upbringing of krat so very well could have been a stalker!
Oo nice connection about the commemorative coin!! It would be awesome if it's the Wine Lady, and when you first come to the window, she does call you her Stalker friend... you might be onto something!
For some reason i interpreted the Donkey stalker saying, "Stop showing up" as him some how remembering Carlo after you do NG+. Only reason why I felt that way is because I don't recall him saying that line on my first playthrough. I could be totally making this up tho, just sharing thoughts. Thank you for these videos!
@@elektra8535 He also saw P/Carlo on his dreams so he may be affected by ergo to an extent, enough to notice time inconsistencies like Sophia rewinding time.
Love the video! I have a few extra thoughts I think "H" in Medero's journal is probably referring to "Hound" though, not Alidoro's real name. It might also be possible that Lumacchio from the same journal is the Legendary Stalker. Google translate says that it means "Snail", another character from Pinocchio, and the snail motif matches up well with the Legendary Stalker "being too late" to save Carlo. Hopefully we will find out in the dlc!
Read some comments down below and the "Antonia is the Legendary Stalker" theory could make a lot of sense if she is also Lumacchio. Her petrificaiton disease definitely counts as her being ill. I wasn't sold on this when I first read about it because I'm not sure how that puts Carlo's birth on the timeline, but this might have convinced me.
An interesting and very important fact to keep in mind is that the loading screen facts actually have lies in them! I wish I could remember where the post was that broke it down, but there are numerous details/historic events that are mentioned about pre-game events that through the environment storytelling turn out to be blatant lies. The biggest indicator of this is that there are a lot of facts that don't seem to correlate, with what the loading screen says about the charity house specifically, to the notes we find littered. So truthfully, I think it's far more likely Carlo's death was a foul play by the alchemists. Also, while we all thought the loading bar saying "NOW LYING..." instead of "NOW LOADING..." was just a cheeky pun, it may be more literal than we thought.
So truthfully, I think it's far more likely Carlo's death was a foul play by the alchemists. Just saw this after I posted. I think Carlo was killed in combat during the workshop battle. And if Nameless is Carlo's corpse it could explain the legs and arm being replaced.
Carlo perishes to the petrification disease, and the Ergo created by his sickness was used to power the P-organ. The Alchemists, however, are directly responsible for the widespread use of Ergo in Krat (and therefore, the spread of PD), so it's still true: technically the Alchemists are responsible for Carlo's death.
One other connection between Stalkers, 2 characters both have a similar line, the Red Fox and the (battle ready?) brother both comment on P’s moves saying “I’ve seen those moves before” and the fox outright saying the legendary stalker so maybe the legendary stalker taught P?
I LOVE LORE VIDEOS!!! Well done! You should make a running series of various lore for LOP..my personal GOTY. Now with the announcement of DLC, this already fascinating world will continue to grow into something truly remarkable! Keep up the amazing content! You just earned a new subscriber 💪🏾💯
Thank you so much!!! 😊💙 I am STOKED for the DLC! It’s amazing how much this studio loves its game and their fans, can’t wait to see more news about what’s coming out!
that one letter on Hugo's optional cave please do a video for that iirc Medoro was actually acquainted with Sophia which is intriguing considering the real Alidoro knows Medoro too
Thank you so much for these!!! 300+ hours in and I can' t get enough of this game and it's lore. Hoping for more!!!!!! .....ooooh that Robber Weasel..........grrrrrrr!
Thumbs up for pointing out that the Cat deceived the Fox by saying they're long-lost siblings, but where did you find the info about the Fox figuring it out? The last one is something I didn't know. Also, interesting point on the "path of the cricket." I always wondered why we only encountered bastards and sweepers, and cricket made no sense, but the individualistic legendary stalker and gemini along with the path of the cricket make sense.
if you fight the fox she metions reconincing your fitingh style as that of the legendary stalker or somthing like that. i had to recheck that dialogue.
When you enter Rosa Isabelle street and you hear someone singing, and you also hear someone coughing. That's the same person doing both. It's the White Lady, trying to sing but she can't because of the poison.
There is more lore in this video's comment section than in actual game itself, and I like it
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Amazing video! The way Lies of P put this little pieces of story to enrich the world building its a great work!! Btw, now they confirmed the DLC in is production, maybe we will know more about the Stalkers, specially the Legendary One? Can wait for it!
Please keep going on these series!!! Always get lost in intense lore while playing, this is amazing thank u so much cause its a beautifull game so far 😭😭😭
I seen somewhere the theory that the mad Donkey was actually Lampwick, from the original novel. Friend with Romeo and Carlos, he actually go after Gepetto because he want to know what happened to them. He must have seen as a child Carlos being killed and got nightmares from it. It's also how he know that we are Gepetto puppet, because he recognize Carlos face and know he is dead, so the figure before him can only be a puppet.
i legit didnt know you could emote to greet the Atoned, dont know if thats 2nd playthrough content or not. but i loved to see all the secret interactions and stuff, like what happens if you dont send alidoro to the hotel ? or dose he end up at the hotel no mather what and i lost out on some good lies XD
"i just wanted a full belly" yeah, and if you'd ask, like cat twink over here, you could have monched on some fruit. But noooo, your mind immediately went to fire axe
I think that he’s just a particular robot/AI companion that was inherited; Sophia knows who he is and has restart him twice so I think she probably knows his story more than any of the other characters.
I got the same impression, especially as the Legendary Stalker asks Gemini to "Get rid of us(Carlo)" which would mean he'd need some way to move and act on his own. Either he once was a fully functional puppet and worked with said Stalker and later put into the Monad Lamp, or more sinister, he was human and somehow he was put into the Lamp, maybe an experiment by the Alchemist or Gepetto himself.
Mad Donkey only gives the dialogue about the puppet showing up again and again/being a dream or a nightmare if you die to him and come back for another attempt. If there's no other supporting lore that says Mad Donkey was having visions of the puppet, then it's likely his dialogue is acknowledging P's seeming immortality.
The Black Rabbit Brotherhood reminds me of the Marcus brothers from Vampire Hunter D bloodlust movie, the Big guy died first and they then sworn revenge..then the other Rabbit also had arm crossbow attached to his arm, much like Borgoff from Vampire Hunter D.
I killed the fox and the cat because i thought they were making the blindness disease up after tricking me multiple times since black cats voice doesn't sound honest when you have to make the final choice. But apparently it was.
Been trying to find more info on the Black Rabbit Brotherhood lore alone, would love a video on that! Also, do you know which of the stalkers you presented are bastards vs sweepers? I realize that the cat is a sweeper, but what about the others? Thanks!
Man the stalkers are something else, what are they human, enhanced or superhuman cause no human can move that swiftly and very agile, or wield super heavy weapons like that.
Believe it or not, you aren’t Pinocchio in this game… the Nameless Puppet is! The Nameless Puppet is also called the First Puppet. In the fairy tale, the first puppet created was Pinocchio made by Gepetto while he grieved over his son.
@@kitetales what hold on what? Gepetto ripped his own, Pinocchio’s, or the Clever One’s (the one you play as)? I’ve never heard of this, I wanna hear more!
Oh I had to move them! At least the movie reviews; UA-cam has been penalizing me for deviating from “the algorithm” so trying to get rid of anything that was affecting my score.
The legendary stalker is Lady Antonia she even gives the boy Carlo’s school uniform in the beginning due to her feeling sorry for not being able to be there before the boy dies when the hotel gets raided they even spray paint a deer head on Lady Antonia’s painting hinting to the mask she would’ve wore at the time two other things that I noticed and confused me is the overgrown stargazer which had a crow and is a bright yellow possibly hinting to the wizard of oz and Dorothy the second is the weapon you get named blind mans double sided spear it states it was a weapon used by a stalker named Noah the weapons blade part is seen stabbed inside Arlecchino’s chest when you get into the last trinity key door in the tower
@@kitetales it’s a reboot. It had a lot of problems after launch. In fact, I refunded it due to the issue, but with all the changes and updates I repurchased it and gave it another shot. It’s not bad and I find the combat pretty interesting. You can either dodge or like lies of p guard against attacks. But I give it an 8 out of 10. In many ways I think it’s better than lies of p. You should look into it.
Random thought here but has anyone else noticed the 'Proof of Humanity' weapon is a pair of scissors? As in to cut puppet strings and prove you're human? 😂 just something I noticed today on NG+ and wondered if anyone else has had similar thoughts Edit: found out this is literally the description of the weapon 😂 well perhaps it speaks volumes to the way this game is made that I could figure that out while being a brainlet by not reading the description first 🤣
For legendary stalker, there is also an evidence that legendary stalker was indeed going to the path of cricket style since the loading screen said she is not bastard or sweeper. When you fighting Black Rabbit Brotherhood in malum district after you knock out the last brother he will say something that your move is not bastard nor sweeper. It could be Carlo actually self-train himself after seeing the legenday stalker "Cricket" fighting style without knowing that its not Bastard or Sweeper fighting style. Since in the memory there is no way Carlo got traind by legendary stalker bcuz she refused Carlo request till he died and she was regretting her decision.
I got the impression she eventually did take him on as a pupil. The way she talked about being too late, she seemed genuinely distraught, making it seem she had a closer connection to Carlo.
-i always thought the line “those moves… you’re no bastard, you’re a sweeper” was silly coming from the guy who is currently calling you out and attacking you for being a puppet- i cant believe all this time i thought he said “you’re” 💀 i just saw the subtitle and it says “nor” 😭😭😭 i was too focused on the fight because when they said it for me it was mid fight and not at the end
The irony of the mad donkey being the sane person. He knew exactly who was responsible for the puppet outbreak, and that you were an agent of furthering that chaos.
It’s sad because he did know the truth and he gets killed for it, but that’s exactly what Geppetto wanted. ☹️
Truly an "are we the baddies?" moment
oh i always thought he was saying this cause he keep the memories of us if we die and comeback , since at the end even simon told u "so she was supporting you by rewind time each times"
even asks whyv do you keep coming back@@nxmeless8622
he knows you respawning too (if you were bad enough to die to him)
The owl doctor is Watson. The apartment is 221b which is a reference to 221b Baker Street, the apartment of Sherlock Holmes and John Watson. The owl doctors uniform is actively a British army doctor uniform
Ooo nice observation!
@@kitetales yeah there are a bunch of subtle ones, and some that aren't so subtle. Like I'm sure you noticed the portrait of Carlo that grows the wooden nose was painted by Dorian Gray
@@9RealmsPublishingthat one was one of my favorite references still
Three things I've noticed on my 3rd and current playthrough:
- The Survivor wears a mask that's literally two-faced; right side a white mouse and the left either a black rat or a cat of some kind. As the Rookie stalker's masks are chosen by their superiors, whoay have seen how cowardly and deceitful he was.
- the Survivor's "brother" is named Leo, which could reference a lion, which tells of how different they were, maybe even a reference to the Mouse and Lion fable. His outfit also mentions noble and Pride, which are traits associated with lions.
- The red Apple you can buy and give to Adelina, may be a Snow White reference, as she was seen as the most beautiful Belladonna in Krat and dies not soon after we give her said apple. The Major difference is that she wasn't poisened by an older sister and here it's the other way around.
That is such a great observation about The Survivor and Leo, that is absolutely a reference to a lion and a mouse which is a really common theme in fairytales and parables! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on that! 😊
@@kitetales you're welcome, it may be common, but it took me a while to realise, especially how they fit together as in the fables.
Maybe it'll have something to do with whatever the devs have planned with Oz- given the whole "cowardly lion" character
@@MrBlueWaooWaoo never made that connection, but if Leo turns out to be alive and also ran away, that could fit, although it may be hard to link it, without knowing more about Leo and the Survivor's past.
a bit ironic he was weak enough to get a mouse mask but his attack combo almost never ends (unless you flinch/two dragon saber it)
Legendary stalker might be Lady Antonia, because she hinted she was "fierce" in her youth, and she knew Carlo, was closest friend of Gepetto, and has ties with alchemists.
Yeah I’ve seen that theory and like it! Also Antonia has a feather in her hair, and it kind of looks like the Legendary Stalker feather too…
Another possible hint can be found in her portrait after the attack on hotel Krat. The drawing on her portrait shows her with antlers and as most/all stalkers wear animal themed masks it's possible that if she used to be a stalker her animal was something like a stag
@@CormacThunderStarI belive its supposed to be her turned into a petrafication creature due to her disease
She could be the one we see on the alchemist isle when we interact with the snow people memories she could be that stalker that Romeo or Carlo was asking to teach them how to fight
@@adamoneill6663I have her saved and cured by then so it’s definitely not for the disease
One of the Korean lies of P lore videos talked about a theory of Antonia = legendary stalker = Isabelle Monad
Considering there were written texts in the game regarding La Bleiwis wine having a cherry scent, which there's a text that the legendary stalker also enjoyed this particular wine, and Antonia's final letter to us indicating that the letter was cherry-scented.
Also regarding Antonia's affluence and the game providing zero indication of the house "Cerasani" which is Antonia's last name. Most of the other rich houses such as Volfe or Monad are mentioned frequently but considering Antonia's reputation of being noble, ladylike, and having enough capital to purchase a "haunted" place to renovate into Hotel Krat...is odd (according to the lore theory vid).
So it could be that Isabelle Monad left her former name behind after all the incident regarding Valentinus & Sofia, then started using a different name. Antonia also sounds like she cares a lot about P, which may have come from her sentiment towards Carlo, in which she saw him die. And with P resembling Carlo, Antonia gives him the clothes he used to wear during his time at Monad Charity House and cares about him too.
I mean this is one game theory but I think it makes a lot of sense connecting the dots
antonia was the legendary stalker and isabelle was sophia's mother, and that's it.
This was amazing! I love your style and storytelling. Its early days but you could be the Vaati Vidya for Lies of P! Thanks for another excellent video!
Thank you so much! That’s extremely high praise, I will gladly apply for that position! 😆💙
I was thinking/ feeling this too! Prepare to LIE series on each of the stalkers would be the move.
I love listening to Souls game lore as I fall asleep and you've absolutely overtaken Vaati as my favorite. The way you depict the world and your voice are just perfect. Thanks for the content
Thank you so much for watching! 💙
Good dude it’s cool you recognize people that work hard like her. Because Vaati is a known plagiarist & is a soulless shill at this point. I’d rather watch this channel any day
Carlo actually did become a stalker, he graduated from the Monad Charity House. And gave his graduation necklace to Romeo to spite his father.
Carlo may have died in the workshop collapse too. It couldn't just have been the petrification disease because the legendary stalker monologue about arriving too late would make no sense. The other possibility is that he was buried alive and either died of asphyxion or thirst and said Stalker found him just too late.
I was about to comment the same thing - lots of people speculate he died from the Petrification disease, but it doesn't make any sense from the Legendary Stalkers dialogue. Also, if he graduated, he shouldn't have been at the monad house (maybe).
I wondered if the grave by the Malum District with the smiling bunny mark is Carlo's grave, since it's by the inactive stargazer that's likely for DLC purposes. If Carlo was an active stalker, the Black Rabbits must have known him (especially as Carlo and Romeo seemed to hang out in the Red Lobster Inn). This would explain why the BRB would recognize Carlo's visage right away and assume he's Geppeto's puppet, since they'd know Carlo is dead (of course, this may just be from the fact they have the portrait)
This may also explain why the Mad Donkey also recognizes P for what he is. He may have been comrades with Carlo, which may explain his dialogue.
Obviously this is pretty speculative.
@@CassielSardavic Yeah, I have seen a lot of 'Mad Donkey is breaking the 4th wall' theory, but if you take the idea he was friend with Carlo and Romeo, he may have actually cornered Gepetto because he wanted to know what happened to them, recognize us because of our ressemblance with Carlo (for who he guilt over and have dreams/nightmares about)
So turns out I was wrong. There is a title screen bit that says "Geppetto's son died of the Petrification disease" and then about how this effected Geppetto - I just finished NG+4 and I saw during the flash back of the Legendary Stalker that Carlo's body is still wearing the charity house school uniform. I thought because he graduated he would be in his late teens (and Geppetto made the puppet look younger to harken back to better days when they were "a happy family"), but it doesn't appear so - he dies in the Rose Estate Incident, which coupled with the uniform, would imply that he was still a student. I am assuming this was like a middle/elementary school graduation and he would be moving on to more adavanced studies. I am not sure how the school system works in Korea, so I am not sure the time line/age cut off.
@@maxentirunosbest theory I’ve seen so far is that mad donkey is lampwick the third friend mentioned in the memories on the alchemist island. It would make sense as to why he knew geppetto was up to know good and instantly recognized your body and called you the devils puppet
Theory - Carlo wasn't killed by the disease, he was killed in the battle of the workshop. And his mentor failed him.
My prediction is the legendary stalker was/is Red Fox. She then took on another "little brother" in Black Cat. I believe that's why she says - "I don't want to fight, not you anyway".
Of course I could be 100% wrong: )
Yeah the line “if only I’d gotten here sooner” would line up with that!
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ok so this is a COMPLETE shot in the dark but I think it might be possible we actually meet the legendary stalker again in the game there's a certain questline where you get a certain wine for this old lady its the same exact wine that the paper said the legendary stalker liked! not to mention the reward we get is a vintage collectable for viginni the coin it says it was given to its founding supporting members so this person was involved with the upbringing of krat so very well could have been a stalker!
Oo nice connection about the commemorative coin!! It would be awesome if it's the Wine Lady, and when you first come to the window, she does call you her Stalker friend... you might be onto something!
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For some reason i interpreted the Donkey stalker saying, "Stop showing up" as him some how remembering Carlo after you do NG+.
Only reason why I felt that way is because I don't recall him saying that line on my first playthrough.
I could be totally making this up tho, just sharing thoughts.
Thank you for these videos!
Thanks for watching! 💙
That line shows up if you die and come back to fight him again. If you manage to one-shot his fight, he doesn't say it, in my experience.
@@cw4767so in his "madness" he is able to notice Sofía rewinding time? Man was more sane that half the city of krat
@@elektra8535 ikr 🤣🤣🤣
@@elektra8535 He also saw P/Carlo on his dreams so he may be affected by ergo to an extent, enough to notice time inconsistencies like Sophia rewinding time.
Love the video! I have a few extra thoughts
I think "H" in Medero's journal is probably referring to "Hound" though, not Alidoro's real name. It might also be possible that Lumacchio from the same journal is the Legendary Stalker. Google translate says that it means "Snail", another character from Pinocchio, and the snail motif matches up well with the Legendary Stalker "being too late" to save Carlo. Hopefully we will find out in the dlc!
Read some comments down below and the "Antonia is the Legendary Stalker" theory could make a lot of sense if she is also Lumacchio. Her petrificaiton disease definitely counts as her being ill. I wasn't sold on this when I first read about it because I'm not sure how that puts Carlo's birth on the timeline, but this might have convinced me.
I’m so glad I found this channel, you tell the stories of this game incredibly well!
Thank you so much for the nice comment! 😊
These are like, the only top-notch videos I can find diving into the lore, and the quality here is amazing. Awesome video
Thank you so much!! I really enjoyed working on it!
YES PLZ do more of these on the alchemist and workshop technicians I would love these!!
On it! Thank you Edward!! 💙😊
@@kitetales THANK YOU, for the amazing content!
An interesting and very important fact to keep in mind is that the loading screen facts actually have lies in them! I wish I could remember where the post was that broke it down, but there are numerous details/historic events that are mentioned about pre-game events that through the environment storytelling turn out to be blatant lies. The biggest indicator of this is that there are a lot of facts that don't seem to correlate, with what the loading screen says about the charity house specifically, to the notes we find littered. So truthfully, I think it's far more likely Carlo's death was a foul play by the alchemists.
Also, while we all thought the loading bar saying "NOW LYING..." instead of "NOW LOADING..." was just a cheeky pun, it may be more literal than we thought.
So truthfully, I think it's far more likely Carlo's death was a foul play by the alchemists.
Just saw this after I posted. I think Carlo was killed in combat during the workshop battle. And if Nameless is Carlo's corpse it could explain the legs and arm being replaced.
That would make a lot of sense! I could see that entire battle being something the alchemists plotted.
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Carlo perishes to the petrification disease, and the Ergo created by his sickness was used to power the P-organ. The Alchemists, however, are directly responsible for the widespread use of Ergo in Krat (and therefore, the spread of PD), so it's still true: technically the Alchemists are responsible for Carlo's death.
wow nice catch
One other connection between Stalkers, 2 characters both have a similar line, the Red Fox and the (battle ready?) brother both comment on P’s moves saying “I’ve seen those moves before” and the fox outright saying the legendary stalker so maybe the legendary stalker taught P?
The only other one i know doing Lies of P in depth lore like this. Really great stuff girly! Loving it all so far (:
Thank you so much!! It’s been a lot of fun to work on, I really appreciate all the nice feedback! 💙
I LOVE LORE VIDEOS!!! Well done! You should make a running series of various lore for LOP..my personal GOTY. Now with the announcement of DLC, this already fascinating world will continue to grow into something truly remarkable! Keep up the amazing content! You just earned a new subscriber 💪🏾💯
Thank you so much!!! 😊💙 I am STOKED for the DLC! It’s amazing how much this studio loves its game and their fans, can’t wait to see more news about what’s coming out!
Give us a prepare to LIE series on each of the characters! I feel it would be great for growth of your channel!! loving your work and soothing voice!
Oh my gosh that is such a great idea!! Would love to do that for some of the bosses. (Vaati please don’t send me a cease and desist)
@@kitetales oh! I hope thats not a thing! haha anyways.. Keep up the good work
that one letter on Hugo's optional cave
please do a video for that
iirc Medoro was actually acquainted with Sophia which is intriguing considering the real Alidoro knows Medoro too
Thank you so much for these!!! 300+ hours in and I can' t get enough of this game and it's lore. Hoping for more!!!!!!
.....ooooh that Robber Weasel..........grrrrrrr!
Thank YOU! Oh my gosh Robber Weasel was SO ANNOYING. That little kick she’d do after knocking you to the ground?! 😆
Ive been waiting for someone to do lore vids with a great story telling voice. Ty
Thank you! 😊
Always down for more Lies of P content,been loving it so far.
Thank you so much!
Great video. I can't believe I missed so many of these details in my playthrough.
Thanks so much!!
Your storytelling and editing skill are up there with big youtuber like Vaatividya DAMN🥳
its so depressing to read the black rabbit brotherhood’s journal on ng+
“obtained 5 ergo today” while the player has like 50k ergo on hand 💀
I think the legendary stalker is that old lady in the wheelchair. Their voices are similar and she seems to care about P (Carlos) a lot.
Thumbs up for pointing out that the Cat deceived the Fox by saying they're long-lost siblings, but where did you find the info about the Fox figuring it out? The last one is something I didn't know.
Also, interesting point on the "path of the cricket." I always wondered why we only encountered bastards and sweepers, and cricket made no sense, but the individualistic legendary stalker and gemini along with the path of the cricket make sense.
Love these LoP videos! The game has such a cool world and lore please make more!
Thank you so much! More videos on the way!
if you fight the fox she metions reconincing your fitingh style as that of the legendary stalker or somthing like that. i had to recheck that dialogue.
I missed a lot these facts despite reading everything very carefully during my first playthrough ... well done 👍
Thank you so much! 😊
Brilliant analysis comme d’habitude. Cela doit prendre des heures pour faire cette présentation. Bravo ! J’ai appris beaucoup !
Merci beaucoup mon ami ! ❤️ Et oui, des heures pour certain ! 😆
When you enter Rosa Isabelle street and you hear someone singing, and you also hear someone coughing. That's the same person doing both. It's the White Lady, trying to sing but she can't because of the poison.
Great video! Your Lies of P lore & story content is the best I’ve seen. Please continue to make more!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate hearing that!! I’m hoping to have my next one out this week! 😊
I’m in love with these lore videos!
I need more from this games lore!
This was beautiful and so well written.
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There is more lore in this video's comment section than in actual game itself, and I like it
Amazing video! The way Lies of P put this little pieces of story to enrich the world building its a great work!! Btw, now they confirmed the DLC in is production, maybe we will know more about the Stalkers, specially the Legendary One? Can wait for it!
YES!! So excited for the DLC, from the two images they shared it seems like it will have some very fun locations to explore
I adore this game so much so thank you for going into detail about some of the lore!❤
Thank YOU for watching! ❤
I think we all know the legendary stalker is being saved for the DLC
Yeah for sure; there are some fun theories about her, but I'm in the camp of we haven't seen her yet.
Omg just finished my ng+ and i was searching for lore content. Love this!!!
Thank you so much!! 💙
Please keep going on these series!!! Always get lost in intense lore while playing, this is amazing thank u so much cause its a beautifull game so far 😭😭😭
I seen somewhere the theory that the mad Donkey was actually Lampwick, from the original novel.
Friend with Romeo and Carlos, he actually go after Gepetto because he want to know what happened to them.
He must have seen as a child Carlos being killed and got nightmares from it. It's also how he know that we are Gepetto puppet, because he recognize Carlos face and know he is dead, so the figure before him can only be a puppet.
Love this! Also your voice is therapeutic. Reminds me of a daily affirmation video I used to watch
Thank you! That is such a great compliment! ❤
You have a really good voice for storytelling
Thank you very much! 😊
Fully down for you being the Vaati for Lies of P
I graciously ACCEPT! 🙏
Awesome video! I'm so glad someone is doing Lies of P lore videos of such high quality!
Love Lies of P and I love your videos! You do a wonderful job telling the story of this cool little game world. Def one of my new fav channels 🫶🏻
Thank you so much for your super kind comment! 😊💙
What a voice! You were made for this.
Thank you so much! 😊💙
After watching this video I have one thing to say:
DAMN THIS GAME'S STORY GOES HARD.
your voice is so soothing ...i love all these lore videos
Please, do more! Even though I read through all the notes, I rarely pieced things together 😅 This would be much helpful :)
I am loving these vids, well done!!!
i legit didnt know you could emote to greet the Atoned, dont know if thats 2nd playthrough content or not.
but i loved to see all the secret interactions and stuff, like what happens if you dont send alidoro to the hotel ?
or dose he end up at the hotel no mather what and i lost out on some good lies XD
Yeah he ends up there regardless! I was afraid I’d get him killed though if I sent him to Venigni Works!
"i just wanted a full belly" yeah, and if you'd ask, like cat twink over here, you could have monched on some fruit.
But noooo, your mind immediately went to fire axe
this is a good story. so another question is gemini a stalker too?
I think that he’s just a particular robot/AI companion that was inherited; Sophia knows who he is and has restart him twice so I think she probably knows his story more than any of the other characters.
I got the same impression, especially as the Legendary Stalker asks Gemini to "Get rid of us(Carlo)" which would mean he'd need some way to move and act on his own.
Either he once was a fully functional puppet and worked with said Stalker and later put into the Monad Lamp, or more sinister, he was human and somehow he was put into the Lamp, maybe an experiment by the Alchemist or Gepetto himself.
Is he Lampwick? That character introduction in the beach flashback sequences felt very strange and I wasn't sure what to do with it.
Or is Lampwick the lil black cat?
Lampwick is the name of Pinnochio’s best friend in the original novel, but his real name was Romeo and Lampwick was just a nickname 😊
I love your lore videos!
Thank you so much! 💙
With a name like Romeo, I'm willing to bet that the legendary stalker's name is Juliet.
Mad Donkey only gives the dialogue about the puppet showing up again and again/being a dream or a nightmare if you die to him and come back for another attempt. If there's no other supporting lore that says Mad Donkey was having visions of the puppet, then it's likely his dialogue is acknowledging P's seeming immortality.
He still says that the first time you fight him.
Crazy! I never got it...@@kitetales
The Black Rabbit Brotherhood reminds me of the Marcus brothers from Vampire Hunter D bloodlust movie, the Big guy died first and they then sworn revenge..then the other Rabbit also had arm crossbow attached to his arm, much like Borgoff from Vampire Hunter D.
Great video, thank you.
Awesome facts and awesomely soothing voice; you are gifted!
Thank you so much!! 🦋
HOly fuck thank you. Amazing content on Lies of P through and through. Well done.
I killed the fox and the cat because i thought they were making the blindness disease up after tricking me multiple times since black cats voice doesn't sound honest when you have to make the final choice. But apparently it was.
It’s late, but I shall binge this in the morning with some iced coffee 💅🏼
Been trying to find more info on the Black Rabbit Brotherhood lore alone, would love a video on that! Also, do you know which of the stalkers you presented are bastards vs sweepers? I realize that the cat is a sweeper, but what about the others? Thanks!
I put little title cards in the video in each of the different Stalker sections with their affiliations! 😄
@KiteTales thanks!! I missed that completely. :) your videos are so well made!
Man the stalkers are something else, what are they human, enhanced or superhuman cause no human can move that swiftly and very agile, or wield super heavy weapons like that.
Beautiful and educational video thank you
Thank you! ❤️
You have such a pretty voice! I loved this video so informative!
Thank you so much!! 😊💙
the stalker we dont knowmuch about sounded like the wheel chair lady. forgot her name.
I’m so torn I want to watch but I haven’t even played lies of P
Oo time for you to play it!
Believe it or not, you aren’t Pinocchio in this game… the Nameless Puppet is! The Nameless Puppet is also called the First Puppet. In the fairy tale, the first puppet created was Pinocchio made by Gepetto while he grieved over his son.
Maybe that’s why Geppetto ripped his face off, tired of his lies
@@kitetales what hold on what? Gepetto ripped his own, Pinocchio’s, or the Clever One’s (the one you play as)? I’ve never heard of this, I wanna hear more!
Well said. I appreciate your story telling. I dont have the patients to sift thru the game dialogue
Great video.
Thank you! 💙
God I love your voice
Thank you!! 😊
I missed the owl doctor! Dang!
Hey Kite, why are a lot of your old videos gone? Some of those were my favorites.
Oh I had to move them! At least the movie reviews; UA-cam has been penalizing me for deviating from “the algorithm” so trying to get rid of anything that was affecting my score.
@KiteTales well that's sad. Some of those were my favorite. Are you and Flex not doing Friday Night Live anymore?
Maybe a lore video on all the main bosses?
This is a GREAT topic, thank you so much! 💙
The legendary stalker is Lady Antonia she even gives the boy Carlo’s school uniform in the beginning due to her feeling sorry for not being able to be there before the boy dies when the hotel gets raided they even spray paint a deer head on Lady Antonia’s painting hinting to the mask she would’ve wore at the time two other things that I noticed and confused me is the overgrown stargazer which had a crow and is a bright yellow possibly hinting to the wizard of oz and Dorothy the second is the weapon you get named blind mans double sided spear it states it was a weapon used by a stalker named Noah the weapons blade part is seen stabbed inside Arlecchino’s chest when you get into the last trinity key door in the tower
Very interesting observation about Noah!
Neowiz Release Sneak peak of the new DLC love the story
YES!! A pirate ship?!
We're probably going to origin of eugene
The giant electric looking coil, makes me think we might see more Frankenstein type settings and monsters.
🥰🥰🥰@@kitetales
Yes!! Would love that
amazing work mam, god bless your family with more health!
Thank you so much!
So sad we can’t get the black rabbit brotherhood outfits :((
it was brilliant thank you
Yes i would love more i love lies of p would like in depth explanation of Ergo
Definitely looking into this one for my Alchemist video!
Awesome video. Will you be playing Lords of the Fallen video game?
Thank you! 😊 Hmm I don’t know anything about that game, it’s a sequel? I doubt I’ll play it…
@@kitetales it’s a reboot. It had a lot of problems after launch. In fact, I refunded it due to the issue, but with all the changes and updates I repurchased it and gave it another shot. It’s not bad and I find the combat pretty interesting. You can either dodge or like lies of p guard against attacks. But I give it an 8 out of 10. In many ways I think it’s better than lies of p. You should look into it.
Perfect video
Your voice is magical. I would ask you to read me Harry Potter or something similar.
This is the absolute best compliment ever 😊
Voice is fire, read audiobooks
Thank you! That is the dream 🤩
why do I have a crush on Claudia...help
Pls react to the Directors letter from Lies of P
You should make a video talking about the recent announcements they make for the game! I'd like to know your opinions on it.
Random thought here but has anyone else noticed the 'Proof of Humanity' weapon is a pair of scissors? As in to cut puppet strings and prove you're human? 😂 just something I noticed today on NG+ and wondered if anyone else has had similar thoughts
Edit: found out this is literally the description of the weapon 😂 well perhaps it speaks volumes to the way this game is made that I could figure that out while being a brainlet by not reading the description first 🤣
He had to cut them puppet strings! ✂️
He ain't got no strings to hold him down, to make him fret, or to make him frown.
@@thekatarnalchemist he has no strings and now he's free to go on a killing spree 🎶🤣
For legendary stalker, there is also an evidence that legendary stalker was indeed going to the path of cricket style since the loading screen said she is not bastard or sweeper. When you fighting Black Rabbit Brotherhood in malum district after you knock out the last brother he will say something that your move is not bastard nor sweeper. It could be Carlo actually self-train himself after seeing the legenday stalker "Cricket" fighting style without knowing that its not Bastard or Sweeper fighting style. Since in the memory there is no way Carlo got traind by legendary stalker bcuz she refused Carlo request till he died and she was regretting her decision.
I got the impression she eventually did take him on as a pupil. The way she talked about being too late, she seemed genuinely distraught, making it seem she had a closer connection to Carlo.
-i always thought the line “those moves… you’re no bastard, you’re a sweeper” was silly coming from the guy who is currently calling you out and attacking you for being a puppet- i cant believe all this time i thought he said “you’re” 💀 i just saw the subtitle and it says “nor” 😭😭😭 i was too focused on the fight because when they said it for me it was mid fight and not at the end
Been a while since I’ve had some good lore in my veins… just gonna lay back and let it defuse while I drift off.
There is one little detail about the Black Cat revealed only on the credits: his name is Lucio.
I really enjoy these, please do make the others :):):)
I’m still SUPER enamored with the game and lore so, I can’t get enough of it right now!!!
Thank you so much!! I’m so glad to see how many are loving this game!
Just finished this game so happy to see someone making these types of video for this game
Hope you get the exposure you deserve!
Thank you so much! 💙
A three part series sounds great
If you notice the Black Cat's signpost it says Toy Land from where he most likely escaped.
Yes!! That’s what I think too
What animal do you reckon the legendary stalker was? My guess is a peacock due to the single feather and the flow of the moveset of the puppet's sabre