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Fun fact: cantare means "to sing" in italian
Cântare in romanian means song
Cantaré means "I will sing" in Spanish
It's more likely from the Latin "cantare," which remained more or less the same in Italian (though the pronunciation is definitely different.) Also gave us "chant" via French.
Fun fact: used Google whoaaaaa
@@JunkyardGod Fun fact: fucking yourself is free
So I’ve not actually noticed before but the blades on them are actually on the backside of the Cantare that’s a really nice touch that I’m sure most people either won’t see or won’t connect to how they work aka doing there damage when you call them back to you.
That's because a Normal person doesn't throw Knives *Backwards* 😢
4:59 JakeTheStarChild you madman, giga based
Boi closed gifts, but people still find the way to drown him in gifts. Soon he will stop speaking with people :D
I've seen on Reddit, the synth charge mod (+200% damage on last shot) works on all the returning projectiles.
they'll patch that eventually just watch
what's the final build for it tho?
Nerfs Incoming 👀
Very good to know
@@theunhingedgamer3762 if synth charge was allowed to be useful it'd cause a rift in space time
odd that it even works though? the reload isn't the last shot in the mag exactly
I feel like a magazine mod would work as well because you'd get more coming back to you
At that point just get more multishot cause u want reload as much as possible too.
I checked, and while you can get 130% extra mag cap, about 8 more shots, I don't think its worth it cause its only 6 base, maybe prime in half a decade will be more worth it lol
Unironically, it's kind of a shame you haven't tried out Magnum Force or any punchthrough mod.
Despite the weapon's innate 1.4 punchthrough (which is why the passive triggers sometimes even if you hit the enemy directly), having even more punchthrough guarantees the hit of several enemies at once with the passive.
Same going for Magnum Force, which increases both the damage and reduces accuracy (creating a spread for the modded-in multishot, resulting in a sort-of crowd control/AoE weapon based around direct hits rather than explosions).
Both, especially when combined, lessen the awkwardness of the weapon relying on the return passive (which sometimes refuses to register at all, despite the projectile visibly returning through an enemy).
Also, due to the weapon not being limited by an ammo pool or recharge rate. you can slap the weapon on a high firerate/reload speed build (like those on Gauss and Harrow) and enjoy the slaughter, even more so with the ammo efficiency helminth ability.
I was just thinking the same thing; glad to hear it works so well.
There is some waclkyness with energized minition - if you go to 3 ammo on single cast projectiles start instantly returning
You're a legend for this explanation, thanks a lot!
I tried with Magnum Force and from my experience it isn't really worth it, sadly
This is some good stuff
Mmm. Yum. Your right.
what about punch through? Punch through enemy , call them back... !
@@mohdnazimrosli8535it's already have a punch through
Friendly reminder, you can reload while they're still flying, so you can throw it just over enemy heads and catch them on the way back.
Hmm, what about punch through? You could throw it through the first few enemies in a pack and then damage on the way back.
It's got 1.4 Meters Innate Punch Through. 👀
@@lookalike4805ah! I wish this was mentioned. Good info
@@lookalike4805Yeah. Add more to pierce even more enemies before returning!
Synth Charge applies to the reload, it noticeably boosts the damage.
Aw thank you! I've been looking for someone to review all of jades weapons. Also curious to see your thoughts on them all working together.
Combined all together with her it's pretty nuts. I've yet to Forma the weapons but I have 3 forma on Jade and she's a monster like her husband.
@@DioStandProud That's great to know. I'm really excited. I have all of them but I just haven't really messed with them yet
Consider using Synth Charge! As long as you run out the magazine instead of reloading manually, ALL of the returning blades actually get the damage bonus
day 3(not yet tho) asking mcgamercz to making a video of nepheri
That does look like fun. I'm glad DE was just trying Some Shit with Jade's weapons coz they all just seem like they'll be great all-rounders to fall back on.
... How would these be with Qorvex? His passive gives them even more punch-through to guarantee your knives go through everything and embed as far back as possible, his 2 lines things up to get hit all at once, and strips armor with the augment. Is this anything? Probably not anything stronger than using his 4 in those situations, but like. Maybe??
I bounced off these hard. Just leveling them up I simply could not get the return gimmick to work half the time. The projectiles appear to be *pinpoint* size and despite looking like I was at the right angle, I'd just get my knives back and nothing else.
I also just couldn't get them to to respectable damage to my usual testing group. I found myself switching back to my primary and just...never thinking about the Cantare at all after.
So we can peer pressure you to take money instead of buying *_EGG?_*
see this is why i love warframe, you can use a weapon that looks funny, acts funny, and you still have the "ooga booga big red number" neurons firing
With good Punch Through, perhaps via Qorvex's passive, this could become even easier, as you'd just fire a salve through the enemy, and then recall the knifes to annihilate them completely. Definitely worth a test I think. 🤔
You would kinda hope it'd stick INTO the enemies themselves and you'd pull it back dealing damage to them and then everything in a line immediately if you're accurate. But I guess this is sorta ok.
Wonder how it interacts with warframe abilities. The first coming to mind being Mag, Mirage, and Ivara. Mag and mirage are obvious but ivara i wonder if you could guide the RETURNING projectile?
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Anyways I thought it would be interesting to try increasing the magazine capacity u would have to throw more knives which means when u reload, more knives will come back which technically = more damage
Fire Rate, Mag Size, Damage, Crit Damage.
Alt Build, Fire Rate, Damage, Multishot, Crit Damage.
Strat, Dump mag, reposition, reap, repeat
Each of them individually are quite nice, but then when you want to get Ensemble going it’s quite a chore (to me at least). Synth Charge works absurdly and I reckon it isn’t intended to work with the returning blades on reload.
why not throw in some magazine size tho? pretty sure theres a dual stat cold damage + magazine capacity mod for pistols... coulda used that instead of frostbite. more knives = more crits right?
I wonder has harald had any upgrades since the harald video?
Not really, no
@@MCGamerCZ okay! Thanks for the reply!
Unless i get a ridiculous multi shot riven, hard pass.
As an "agility player" I'm often in the air and don't see them working for me unfortunately.
Try using the primed reload mod along side the radiation mod. With secondary encumber and the ferox wraith with its amalgam mod to increase fire rate for secondary weapons. I rum steel path and these are my favorite as they melt everything. And because of secondary encumber you can use them with any elemental shard like the green shard for extra corrosive or the extra gas dmg.
Im running heat viral with cascadia flare and damage is spicy even with no priming at all and im running seeker for aditional PT so weapon is more reliable in double hiting enemies
And if you using energized munition if you have less than 4 ammo each blade returns instantly like what
I think punch through will work with this. This way you can just throw the daggers at enemies and not worry about positioning to ensure you hit them back again, so I think Corvex's will be a good warframe for this
It does, so does Magnum Force to make it into a crowd control/AoE direct hit machine
Quite fun, especially when combined
I didn’t like it at first but not for the gimmick becuase I didn’t know about the fixed crit chance without that it just looks kinda meh
shhhh, if someone just wants to gift you something and you don't wanna feel bad bout it, just force em to take something valuable in return
honestly I'm not a fan of these and while the gimmick behind them is solid it's still a gimmick which is a big nope for me so like many of kunai themed weapons these are nothing more than mastery fodder to me
Try with a gauss redline build this thing would go crazy, these new weapons are a ton of fun, but if u want the best of the best meta weapons then the harmony would be the main one u go for
Im currently testing Synth Charge on it, and it seems it effects the return projectiles as part of the last round in mag dmg.
I think it's awesome but the amount of damage it does doesn't really make up for how hard it is to consistently trigger
This weapon was an easy add to my limbo's arsenal, even more so since his 'delux' has a throwing melee card skin.
What happens when you mix the cantare in reload with mags bubble?
I have yet to get them and dont have thd time to get the argon to test this combo.
Maybe the - accuracy mods will work on these well, gives them more range on return, in a way.
Would a low magazone build work? Im thinking less time between returns means more dps?
Love all the new weapons. They’re all strong, have fun unique stuff that just works, you don’t have to go out of your way to use them like some weapons, and they help to passively buff your team mates. And I’m also just happy that we finally have another frame with a full kit of signature weapons. The only other one is Gara, which I’ve always felt was a missed opportunity.
Can you share the Harold pet modes? Both him and his weapon? Thank uuuuu
JakeTheStarChild, very based, as pablo said once.
maybe put a companion with electric damage and arcane Conjunction Voltage works too
Conjunction Voltage is an Arcane Enhancement for secondary weapons: On Electricity Status Effect
Increase +1.5% Reload Speed and +3% Multishot for 12s. Stacks up to 40x.
Not worth it I tried it. Secondary encumber, or flair are better for dmg.
Love to see weapons with unique gimmicks that actually deal good damage
Adding punch through with ensnare may be a lot of fun!
Prolly could use it with zephyr so you don’t have to aim them
Cantare is my favorite weapon out of the new set, it's good to know that other people like it too! I've seen more builds on Harmony over anythin else.
I also seen tons of Harmony vids but none of them build for the heavy + status duration and damage. wierd
because melee is king and no one likes the bow plus kunai have universally been dubbed as mastery fodder for years
Power creep
What if you use punch through to just hit em twice?
kind of sucks, but then I am not good at aiming,
I very much misunderstood how the 300% crit chance thing worked when I first read the description and was quite pleasantly surprised when I figured it out.
My setup runs the Carnis mod instead of Lethal Torrent to skew the status spread back towards Slash and break 90% status chance, makes things just evaporate.
The only potential issue I have with the Cantare is this looming dread that they're going to do what they did with the Catabolyst, where they remove the auto reload on empty because of it's unique mechanic.
On the Catabolyst it makes more sense because it's a one-and-done kind of thing (although I still wish pressing the fire button when out of ammo would trigger the reload for the grenade so its more intuitive), but for something like the Cantare it would ruin the rhythm of it.
Sure, with the auto reload if you're attacking an enemy at a distance, the last knife may not reach before getting recalled, but thats only a very minor loss of damage for the QoL of just being able to throw and return rapidly.
Guess I'm farming argon. Fuck.
Punch threw on this weapon makes it a lot of fun
For these Arcanes, like merciless and cucumber, where can you find these outside the market?
Read the Description to see Drop Sources.
i consider Cantare to be the best throwing secondary, for only 1 reason... it's basically infinite
It is infinite with a great twist
You pronounced it correctly! I thought it was pretty obvious that it's a Latin word, but I saw a video where someone said "the cant-air, or cant-arr, I don't know which one is correct."
What is the interaction with condition overload? I thought it only worked for melee weapons
gunco
the co iss hort for condition overload
also most secondaries are known for being good primers for melee
Maybe magnum force would be the play here as well as some form of punch through to maximize the distance as well as get some variance in throw angles
these kind of weapons are why i always love coming back every update even if im not playing to see what kind of funny things that they come up with. with how the reload triggers so many status, i wonder how well it works with blast, especially considering the majority of the good damage is on the reload part, so its a primier on throw and detinator on reload.
Was interested in this weapon after learning it has infinite ammo, looks likes it's pretty fun too, thanks for the helpful video MC!
its not locked actually
ive seen ! at em
This might be great for me, somebody who can’t actually hit with throwing knives
It would be cool to see the evensong on here, it has a unique trait but I can't figure out how to use it
You hit enemy with arrow. That enemies immediately gets 7 puncture status that makes it to where that enemie can't hurt you or any of your friends
no harrow or arcane pis to le er.
Oh hey the "Xayah from Lol" weapon, pretty fun needs to be paired with gathering CC
It could be very good for Qorvex
Use them in a hallway and it turns it into the lazer hallway that turned that wonderful lad into perfectly shaped diamonds
One mild cautionary point I'd make, if you're not Inaros (or similar) and can't sit (mostly) still in the right place facetanking enemies, these are gonna be 10x harder to use effectively
Ranking/building them up on Jade herself (a would be shield tank, but without DR when not in her exalted) in any kind of higher content was kind of painful lol
I'm a wisp and I use them just fine
Once again, big ups to the people that dump tons of loot onto mcgamercz lmao
i wonder how good it feels with negative magazine size
Painful as then fire rate is useless and less dmg
I think this weapon is just very fun for faffing about
Is your hound build the video you’ve posted?
Yes
This video just reminded me to build it with my argon
I wonder if punch through would have worked
Have you tried malignant force to have use of the negative accuracy to spread the multishot and the daggers to spread and return so they could hit more enemies?
*Magnum Force* 👀
Finally, someone who sees the potential of this weapon.
These are really good in Mag's bubble
The MIGHTY SEER is good stuff too
It is indeed
I guess you could say you're 'singing' its praises.
Consider, lethal momentum
What does pistoleer do to it?
well i had gotten a fissure buff for them and i jsut fired a lot and got knives back
it's not immediately obvious without checking the wiki but synth charge applies to the return flight further increasing the damage
another weapon that look good on paper and training room but when it is being used in live mission it is shit...
It's fun with magazine capacity mods
too bad they're not viable in reasonable builds🥲