An exchange student (presumably) getting owned by a Japanese student. Watch as he exposes his inner ninjer! Disclaimer: Not my vid, downloaded before and I do not know anyone in this vid.
Pretty much the only reason for using wakigamae with a katana was to hide the length of your blade, something that's entirely useless with kendo and the standardized length of shinai...
As I said in the description, the better individual is a local student and I remember hearing that he had only been practicing kendo for a year at the time this video was shot.
It looked like a lot of fun for both of them. This is how people from different countries are able to bring home with them the love of Kendo and Kumdo. Someone who has no clue has to be the first guy to try...I bet he went home and joined Kendo and is still in love with Kendo.
Actually, from what I heard about this guy is that he pretty much was just an otaku that was still high on the fact that he was in Japan. Most otaku don't really stick with kendo once they become disillusioned and realize that you can't be Kenshin but there are some who stick around.
True enough, although surprisingly I have met someone who uses jodan (against his sensei's recommendation) and when I had keiko with him recently he actually did go into waki-gamae not once, not twice, but three times! Doesn't take a guy like the one in the vid to do something that strange.
You know.. I'm still a beginner, as I mentioned before when I last commented in this video (which was some time ago), I noticed that the japanese guy still has a lot to learn and needs to bring in his lower body more when he attacks but I get the feeling that he is on the right track, he has good spirit. As for the other guy.. well... he sure is enthusiastic but needs to work on sooooo many things. The posture being one of them, and the use of Waki, as stated in the video.
@Fre3ZeZ0nE If you're referring to iaido then no, those specific techniques can't be used in kendo effectively. Also consider the fact that he does not have any prior experience in kendo, as I stated in the description. All this is, is a rough introduction for this guy and he pretty much learned his lesson not to use waki-gamae. If I may ask, what is your martial arts background as it pertains to the sword?
I agree but since it was the original title of the video and, as I stated in the description that I am not the original author, I feel it would be improper on my part to name it anything else.
I think what happened was he wanted to try his hand at kendo, got a crash course (no pun intended) just before this, and they decided to quickly tie it to him instead. Like I said in the description, most likely on a study abroad program.
Actually the Japanese kenshi had only been practicing for a year when this was taken. The thing I take from this is to show kendoka why you don't use that specific stance our intrepid friend did.
those guys would take 1000 hayasuburi(s) and not allowed to do shiai for at least 3 months if he was my sensei's students. the way they did is completely wrong... they didn't have Ki-Ken-Tai and zanshin in their movements
Read the description. And it's completely untrue that only Japanese and Koreans can do kendo well. Europe, the USA, and Taiwan all produce some fantastic kenshi. My sensei is Taiwanese and his uncle and college sensei (both from Taiwan) are both 8th dan.
@darrenwouldgo Good advice for him. Unfortunately I don't think he kept up with it after this was taken. In fact, I know next to nothing about anyone directly related to this vid except for what we see here.
I don't know the whole deal but apparently this guy was on some sort of exchange/study abroad program at this Japanese high school and is a bit of an otaku. He supposedly kept challenging people, pointing at them and yelling, "SHOBU!" meaning "challenge." So I guess they finally decided to grant him his wish by pairing him with a guy who's only been practicing for a year. Again, no idea how much of this is true.
Perhaps back in the day you could use it but currently not a single sensei I've met and learned from, or any other instructor for that matter, has condoned anything other than chudan and jodan when it comes to kendo outside of kata.
@pailhead11 I've been training in kendo for nearly 8 years and it's very evident he has had, at most, a crash course and some time watching the school's kendo club.
The reply is not to deny but rather to question... What dafok can u even hit with waki? It's not that waki was weak, it just has no place in kendo competitions. If kenjutsu skills can score points then waki can be popular, but as of now, the only thing you can do from waki is a men-nuki-gyaku-dou. Everything else is just illogical since all kendo strikes require the blade to be coming down from above. If you launch any normal wazas, in waki, you have to first shift into normal or migi-jodan before you can launch any attacks that'll score points in kendo... if so, why not just do jodan? The other thing is, the point of waki is to hide your blade and its length so your opponent has more trouble judging distance... however, in a game where everyone has same length swords, what's the point? If someone can think of a good way to use waki, maybe it can be a thing :3, one day
I love the way everyone goes "ooooouuuu" when he takes the stance :D
Dude pulls out the fucking waki stance hahahhaa.
Pretty much the only reason for using wakigamae with a katana was to hide the length of your blade, something that's entirely useless with kendo and the standardized length of shinai...
Nothing better in kendo than watching nerd rage thoroughly and severely punished.
As I said in the description, the better individual is a local student and I remember hearing that he had only been practicing kendo for a year at the time this video was shot.
It looked like a lot of fun for both of them.
This is how people from different countries are able to bring home with them the love of Kendo and Kumdo. Someone who has no clue has to be the first guy to try...I bet he went home and joined Kendo and is still in love with Kendo.
I love how the one that is getting owned isn't even stepping.. or doing the footwork at all.
Actually, from what I heard about this guy is that he pretty much was just an otaku that was still high on the fact that he was in Japan. Most otaku don't really stick with kendo once they become disillusioned and realize that you can't be Kenshin but there are some who stick around.
kendowned. guy doesn't even know how to tie his tenogui, looks like a pirate.
True enough, although surprisingly I have met someone who uses jodan (against his sensei's recommendation) and when I had keiko with him recently he actually did go into waki-gamae not once, not twice, but three times! Doesn't take a guy like the one in the vid to do something that strange.
no one is commenting on the waki guys tenugui?
@neogtrmn perhaps, still i thought it was universally accepted that you shouldn't wear bogu until you surpass the level this guy is at
You know.. I'm still a beginner, as I mentioned before when I last commented in this video (which was some time ago), I noticed that the japanese guy still has a lot to learn and needs to bring in his lower body more when he attacks but I get the feeling that he is on the right track, he has good spirit. As for the other guy.. well... he sure is enthusiastic but needs to work on sooooo many things. The posture being one of them, and the use of Waki, as stated in the video.
this is something the guys at my dojo would do if we were drunk... shame...
@pailhead11 It is presumed he is an exchange student. His lack of any previous kendo training is not in question at all.
@Fre3ZeZ0nE If you're referring to iaido then no, those specific techniques can't be used in kendo effectively. Also consider the fact that he does not have any prior experience in kendo, as I stated in the description. All this is, is a rough introduction for this guy and he pretty much learned his lesson not to use waki-gamae. If I may ask, what is your martial arts background as it pertains to the sword?
well, ok, still I bet he has a story he will tell for the rest of his life!
My understanding is that he was visiting the school and they allowed him to give it a try just for fun.
i wonder if the waki guy ever did kendo before
KenOwned.
I agree but since it was the original title of the video and, as I stated in the description that I am not the original author, I feel it would be improper on my part to name it anything else.
Do you practice Kendo or Iaido Neo?
There is nothing wrong with Wakigamae, you just have to not fall when you come out of it...
@neogtrmn
good point, but still he does shout "men" and knows that there is a waki stance, i doubt he's got no experience at all,
I think what happened was he wanted to try his hand at kendo, got a crash course (no pun intended) just before this, and they decided to quickly tie it to him instead. Like I said in the description, most likely on a study abroad program.
Actually the Japanese kenshi had only been practicing for a year when this was taken. The thing I take from this is to show kendoka why you don't use that specific stance our intrepid friend did.
those guys would take 1000 hayasuburi(s) and not allowed to do shiai for at least 3 months if he was my sensei's students. the way they did is completely wrong... they didn't have Ki-Ken-Tai and zanshin in their movements
@neogtrmn
what am i looking at? You wrote "presumably", sounds like you don't know anything about this guy.
Read the description. And it's completely untrue that only Japanese and Koreans can do kendo well. Europe, the USA, and Taiwan all produce some fantastic kenshi. My sensei is Taiwanese and his uncle and college sensei (both from Taiwan) are both 8th dan.
@tenken: Please read the description.
Totally agree!
@darrenwouldgo Good advice for him. Unfortunately I don't think he kept up with it after this was taken. In fact, I know next to nothing about anyone directly related to this vid except for what we see here.
I don't know the whole deal but apparently this guy was on some sort of exchange/study abroad program at this Japanese high school and is a bit of an otaku. He supposedly kept challenging people, pointing at them and yelling, "SHOBU!" meaning "challenge." So I guess they finally decided to grant him his wish by pairing him with a guy who's only been practicing for a year. Again, no idea how much of this is true.
I've gone into wakigamae before doing isshijiai just to screw with the naginata guy >_>
@pailhead11 Generally that is true but in this case, as he's visiting from overseas, they seem to have decided to let him give it a go anyway.
the japanese guy seems like ni dan ish...
welp he slipped on his hakama. would have been cool if he had hit
Both. Currently nidan in kendo and 2nd kyu in Muso Shinden Ryu.
@pailhead11 Please read the description.
...now that's embarrassing lol
Japanese pranks 😂
Perhaps back in the day you could use it but currently not a single sensei I've met and learned from, or any other instructor for that matter, has condoned anything other than chudan and jodan when it comes to kendo outside of kata.
@pailhead11 I've been training in kendo for nearly 8 years and it's very evident he has had, at most, a crash course and some time watching the school's kendo club.
I think there is something wrong here... O.o
I want to get a kaeshi do against the japanese student his form is so bad his do is exposed most of the time
remember this was 2007
WAKIGAMAAAAeee*fail*
omg im rolling in front of my computer right now. i was what wakigamae then BOOM. it was pretty funny.haha
And i uze Waki Gamae in Shiai and Kenko and its ok ... TO UZE WAKI , U NEED TECNIQUE!!! ...
no u r a weeb then
The reply is not to deny but rather to question... What dafok can u even hit with waki?
It's not that waki was weak, it just has no place in kendo competitions. If kenjutsu skills can score points then waki can be popular, but as of now, the only thing you can do from waki is a men-nuki-gyaku-dou. Everything else is just illogical since all kendo strikes require the blade to be coming down from above. If you launch any normal wazas, in waki, you have to first shift into normal or migi-jodan before you can launch any attacks that'll score points in kendo... if so, why not just do jodan?
The other thing is, the point of waki is to hide your blade and its length so your opponent has more trouble judging distance... however, in a game where everyone has same length swords, what's the point?
If someone can think of a good way to use waki, maybe it can be a thing :3, one day
LoL for 1 1/2 minutes..
Chicken Fight??? Calm Down and Pay atention in moves... do Ashi Sabaki correctly... -.-
weeb
@neogtrmn
im glad they have,
this is hilarious :D
Lols!
See my response to the first comment.
1:40 and 1:47 I Lol'd and 1:57 (head cloth)
why is he allowed to wear bogu... I really had to learn well the basics before using bogu