suspension issue ..its so soft it rocks..ive pressed subscribe because this lady tests the vehicle properly unlike others that just walk round the vehicle pointing out things ..look foward to more video from her.
Just a few minutes ago, I sat in both the 3008 and the Grandland (and many other cars) at a big auto show in my country. I liked the Grandland more than the 3008.
One of the best consumer reviews I've seen in ages, and with such character. You've got a subscriber in me, because I miss this type of more informative walkaround.
The fundamental with all stellantis products is they just cost too much. That's a real problem in the US too where the local stellantis brands there are dropping sales like a stone at the moment. The do have a big emphasis on shared platforms and the new new products are okay. But the pricing is all wrong. just way too high. The problem with the brakes might be it's designed to work with the much bigger battery. The "smaller" one is just causing the system to over grab right at the last second because less inertia to stop. That's not good.
@@patrickjr11 Same with VW brands. New base Skoda Elroc is nicely priced at 34k euro, but go up 1 step and get a few options and your are up to almost 50k euro. And then you are still missing options and have less HP and range over a Tesla.
I drove an ICE Grandland for almost a year and it had the same issue. Drove me nuts in traffic jams. Reason enough for me to never look at this brand again, especially after seeing this video. Makes you wonder if it's incompetence or they never test-drive their own cars.
It is good to see a review which is somewhat critical, thank you. The bit that interested me was the idea of digital detox which at last seems to be taking hold. The most recent review I saw with that phrase was a couple of weeks ago for a Bentley Continental. So detox is not just a family car thing but something which super premium brands are now doing too. Otherwise the review simply confirmed why I do not drive anything from Vauxhall, and never have.
Great review, love your honesty Nicola 👏 I'm all for vauxhall (Stellantis) trying to get their line up all electric but I'd rather have the Renault Scenic for that money. btw from 1 April 2025 all EVs registered after 1 April 2017 will pay £190 road tax (ved). If you buy a new car over £40k registered from 1 April 2025 then you will also need to pay the expensive car supplement from the second tax payment (year 2) onwards for 5 years. Car tax will be £190 for EVs and the expensive car supplement £410 until it is 6 years old so £600 per year in tax essentially 🤢 this also applies if you later buy a second hand car registered after 1 April 2025 that has an original list price over £40k you as the second owner need to continue to pay the road tax and expensive car supplement until it's 6 year old.
The £40k thing is really going to kill EV sales. I was looking at a EV3 for my wife but midrange spec with extra for paint and it is over the magic £40k. It the main reason I did not buy a PHEV and went straight to battery EV. We can't even blame the Labour idiots either it was the Hunt idiot. Best part of £2500 extra car tax. Back to petrol it is for her then
Another ☑️ for the Scenic. More distinctive styling, BEV platform for better space and efficiency, great Google tech plus, on the Iconic version, the panoramic roof that can be “closed” at the touch of the button.
Fair play to you for for highlighting the three faults that I suspect most other testers would have overlooked. In particular, you may have done the manufacturer a favour by giving them a chance to correct the braking issue at an early stage.
Three things. 1. Light up badges were great when I was 10 and watched knight rider. In real life, they just look cheap. Also, if I’m driving a Vauxhall, the last thing I want is a badge lighting up to highlight to everyone that I bought a crap car. 2. ‘Meh’ is exactly what I would expect from driving a Vauxhall. 3. 45k - who would pay this, when there are so many great used EV options out there?
No one's paying £45k for any new car...they are all on PCP. So anyone glaring at you in your Vauxhall with your light up badge from their Audi or BMW is no better than you as they don't own their car either.
I think that last phrase describes almost every Vauxhall. Meh 😕. A good and honest review, those brakes would drive me mad. The clock I think is a bit of 1st world problems, just tilt your head a couple of centimetres, it's not like you need to look at the clock constantly.
The breaking wobbling is the same on the Peugeot e-3008, clearly the mechanical breaks is too rough, could be fixed if it had one pedal driving by stopping completing on regen.
Wonder how long it would take to get a replacement for the light up badge and surround if it went faulty or if it needed replacing in an accident. A simpler design would help with insurance costs.
My mother's Audi E-Tron does exactly the same thing when you stop, no matter how smooth you try to stop, the last little bit is a if you've slammed on.
The wobble when stopping is pretty common on a lot of vehicles. It's likely due to the suspension bushes deforming under braking, which reform when the load is removed. Our Ioniq 5 also does this, as have many similar cars we've owned. The performance seems very sedate for a 230 BHP vehicle, especially compared to other 230 BHP vehicles of similar dimensions. For instance our 228 BHP RWD Ioniq 5 does the 0-60 dash in 7.3 seconds according to Hyundai, or 6.7 seconds when timing it myself.
The paddles for regeneration are the same on the Skoda Enyaq. The brakes, too. That crunch when you stop and then pull away. Are Vauxhall sharing tech with VW?
I think that all car manufacturers need to look at their pricing as many push their cars into the luxury car bracket. Unfortunately it is set too low for nowadays. Always love Nicolas fun and honest reviews.
The Vauxhall badge is associated with cheap hatchbacks and rep mobiles so I’m not sure a lot of these will get sold at £40 - £45K even if it does have some neat touches. The depreciation is going to be severe but probably a good used buy in a few years time if the fairly bland styling doesn’t bother you and you’re not a brand snob, The braking thing may be peculiar to your test car and I’m guessing can be tuned out through software or suspension tweaks. It’s basically a generic platform and wasn’t highlighted as an issue on the Peugeot e3008. Also why was it not wearing Opel badging as it was LHD and you were testing it in Germany?
The first 2 seconds of seeing the car in this video immediately left me thinking it looked bland and uninteresting.....the interior looks better, with some practical touches.
I’d like the Astra SW built in this platform or a new insignia SW. As far as the steering wheel goes: looks like you’d be fine by lowering it a little. Wouldn’t that sort it out? You’ve got it tilted quite high.
Nice one. Opel have done quite a good job on this one, one of the better models to pop a Vauxhall badge on👍 It looks great. As for the ‘lighty uppy’ bits I think it would become really annoying and just a bit…tacky after a while. Doesn’t really sit well on what I guess is marketed as a premium car. Need to sort that grab on the final bit of the breaking though. Great review and a nice car. Price might still be an issue though for a Vauxhall badge, EV or not. Will be a fantastic used buy no doubt.
Damn, I was looking forward to this, but the wobble and the price, and no full leather seats, shame. Haven't seen an electric Astra in the wild yet, wonder what you make of that long term.
Would love to know what happens to these one-off left-hand-drive Vauxhalls that Opel make for British press tours. Do they change them all back to Opel or just sell them off to some used car dealership a year later so some random German is given a major discount on it because of the weird badge?
Feather the brakes? Do you mean that the engineers have failed to provide enough granularity at the top of the pedals travel (so it is a bit of a switch)? A lot of Corsa-e cars have lousy brake pedal feel too.
The biggest problem coming for EV is from April 25 your going to pay £600 tax on any EV over 40k list years 2-6. I know I wouldn't pay that for the vast majority of ev's especially a vauxhall, Peugeot or honda or ford all mainstream manufacturers not luxury cars.
14:25 It's like when you are pressing the park brake yourself in any other EV at very low speed. In theory, it could be fixed with a software update, if they can apply the brake-pedal first, then delay the activation of the park brake. 🤔😎
Please can you also talk real range expectations alongside WLTP. Although it’s standard from ice and Ev I’m certain it only adds to the hate messaging when the wltp isn’t aligning to the real world
For the same reason that the price of batteries is supposed to be coming down, and the fact that EVs are supposed to be cheaper/simpler to make and maintain - you're being ripped off.
Bland exterior, but interior not bad, l I very screen doesn't dominate and more buttons, but those steering wheel button seems a bad move, agree with reviewer, give me more smaller buttons.
Positives first - great to see Vauxhall have an EV version in each of its models. Negatives - I just don’t care about Vauxhall. To me, they’re just not desirable. For me, their light up badge is horrible (goes for every other car but the way) but why would I want to promote the fact I’m driving a Vauxhall! Anyway loved the review Nicola!
Good video.... however if you are going to use a large SUV to do the school run why not just buy a bus and take all the little children home! It's a strange thing but I used to get picked up from school in a bubble car a very small car easy to park and much more fun than a boring SUV to ride in.
I like this car but how good is it as an EV , stalantis cars tend to not make their EVs as good as other makers , little things , great presenter !!! I like her , is she new to the channel , she’s really good at articulating her point and funny
Stellantis just crap out the same car under a different badges. I wonder why they even bother to maintain the facade of competition when aside from cosmetic differences a car from Fiat/Citroen/Vauxhall/Opel/Jeep/Peugeot is basically just the same car.
So Opel/Vauxhall made a car that wobbles when it stops, they went cheap on the steering-wheel buttons and obviously didn't pay the UX (user experience) testers enough to check various positions of seat/steering wheel and see how that changes the way the driver interacts with the car... Reminds me of my previous (and very last forever) Opel... And they want 40+k€ for it... Lol...
suspension issue ..its so soft it rocks..ive pressed subscribe because this lady tests the vehicle properly unlike others that just walk round the vehicle pointing out things ..look foward to more video from her.
I think it's a mix of average suspension design and the sheer mass of the batteries.
Shockabsorbers are too weak to stop that wobbling. One bounce and then suspension should come to rest.
Sorry for being out of topic, but the reason why I subscribe is because of Nicola and how she reviews cars.
I think a lot of us do
Yes I agree. She can be a little over excited but she feels genuine
I love Nicola too! She is bloomin’ brilliant! 😃
Honestly it looks much better than the Peugeot 3008
Absolutely not..
Haha doubt it
Just a few minutes ago, I sat in both the 3008 and the Grandland (and many other cars) at a big auto show in my country. I liked the Grandland more than the 3008.
3008 and Grandland ate basically the same car. Both are part of Stellantis.
@@sp-tw8ij that's why I am comparing them.
One of the best consumer reviews I've seen in ages, and with such character. You've got a subscriber in me, because I miss this type of more informative walkaround.
That braking issue in traffic jams will dirve me nuts.
Definitely a deal breaker for me.
The fundamental with all stellantis products is they just cost too much. That's a real problem in the US too where the local stellantis brands there are dropping sales like a stone at the moment. The do have a big emphasis on shared platforms and the new new products are okay. But the pricing is all wrong. just way too high.
The problem with the brakes might be it's designed to work with the much bigger battery. The "smaller" one is just causing the system to over grab right at the last second because less inertia to stop. That's not good.
@@patrickjr11 Same with VW brands. New base Skoda Elroc is nicely priced at 34k euro, but go up 1 step and get a few options and your are up to almost 50k euro. And then you are still missing options and have less HP and range over a Tesla.
I drove an ICE Grandland for almost a year and it had the same issue. Drove me nuts in traffic jams. Reason enough for me to never look at this brand again, especially after seeing this video.
Makes you wonder if it's incompetence or they never test-drive their own cars.
I like the honesty.
Beautiful EV with very long range
It is good to see a review which is somewhat critical, thank you.
The bit that interested me was the idea of digital detox which at last seems to be taking hold. The most recent review I saw with that phrase was a couple of weeks ago for a Bentley Continental. So detox is not just a family car thing but something which super premium brands are now doing too. Otherwise the review simply confirmed why I do not drive anything from Vauxhall, and never have.
Great review, love your honesty Nicola 👏
I'm all for vauxhall (Stellantis) trying to get their line up all electric but I'd rather have the Renault Scenic for that money.
btw from 1 April 2025 all EVs registered after 1 April 2017 will pay £190 road tax (ved). If you buy a new car over £40k registered from 1 April 2025 then you will also need to pay the expensive car supplement from the second tax payment (year 2) onwards for 5 years. Car tax will be £190 for EVs and the expensive car supplement £410 until it is 6 years old so £600 per year in tax essentially 🤢 this also applies if you later buy a second hand car registered after 1 April 2025 that has an original list price over £40k you as the second owner need to continue to pay the road tax and expensive car supplement until it's 6 year old.
The £40k thing is really going to kill EV sales. I was looking at a EV3 for my wife but midrange spec with extra for paint and it is over the magic £40k.
It the main reason I did not buy a PHEV and went straight to battery EV. We can't even blame the Labour idiots either it was the Hunt idiot.
Best part of £2500 extra car tax. Back to petrol it is for her then
Another ☑️ for the Scenic. More distinctive styling, BEV platform for better space and efficiency, great Google tech plus, on the Iconic version, the panoramic roof that can be “closed” at the touch of the button.
Great review love your honesty
Fair play to you for for highlighting the three faults that I suspect most other testers would have overlooked. In particular, you may have done the manufacturer a favour by giving them a chance to correct the braking issue at an early stage.
Stellantis should sell a version of this as a Chrysler in North America.
Three things.
1. Light up badges were great when I was 10 and watched knight rider. In real life, they just look cheap. Also, if I’m driving a Vauxhall, the last thing I want is a badge lighting up to highlight to everyone that I bought a crap car.
2. ‘Meh’ is exactly what I would expect from driving a Vauxhall.
3. 45k - who would pay this, when there are so many great used EV options out there?
Probably not for 'seniors' like yourself 😂
No one's paying £45k for any new car...they are all on PCP. So anyone glaring at you in your Vauxhall with your light up badge from their Audi or BMW is no better than you as they don't own their car either.
Jealous coz u drive a Crossland
Brexit has made UK poorer
A used Hyundai Kona electric / Kia Niro can what this car can while the 4th of the cost.
I think that last phrase describes almost every Vauxhall. Meh 😕.
A good and honest review, those brakes would drive me mad. The clock I think is a bit of 1st world problems, just tilt your head a couple of centimetres, it's not like you need to look at the clock constantly.
Something else would be blocked on RHD cars.
Is it just me or is there a hint of the last generation Saab 9-5 rear lights on it? Very neat!
Very disrespectful as Opel (then GM) let the brand die
That's what we called a decent review. Subscribed.
The breaking wobbling is the same on the Peugeot e-3008, clearly the mechanical breaks is too rough, could be fixed if it had one pedal driving by stopping completing on regen.
No one needs one pedal driving. Regen should work on the brake pedal only
Wonder how long it would take to get a replacement for the light up badge and surround if it went faulty or if it needed replacing in an accident. A simpler design would help with insurance costs.
What about the boot? We didn't get to see it or get any info as to size and practicality..
Stella review as always!
My mother's Audi E-Tron does exactly the same thing when you stop, no matter how smooth you try to stop, the last little bit is a if you've slammed on.
Which E-tron is it?
My Grandmother's A-Class did it too, made parking the thing a nightmare. It would make a car a write off for me.
@@Cobnapint the OG E-Tron, Q8 as it's now known
@@sIightIybored Yeah, I love the car, but that puts me off owning one myself.
The wobble when stopping is pretty common on a lot of vehicles. It's likely due to the suspension bushes deforming under braking, which reform when the load is removed. Our Ioniq 5 also does this, as have many similar cars we've owned.
The performance seems very sedate for a 230 BHP vehicle, especially compared to other 230 BHP vehicles of similar dimensions. For instance our 228 BHP RWD Ioniq 5 does the 0-60 dash in 7.3 seconds according to Hyundai, or 6.7 seconds when timing it myself.
The way that brakes reminds me of my friend's folks Vauxhall Nova back in the late 80s.
I had a 1.2 Nova Swing and I don't remember it doing that.
Now this is how you do a car review! Thanks!
Love this car in all honesty, I’m stuck between an Astra & the Grandland.
You didn't mention the boot space what is it in liters
The paddles for regeneration are the same on the Skoda Enyaq. The brakes, too. That crunch when you stop and then pull away. Are Vauxhall sharing tech with VW?
I think that all car manufacturers need to look at their pricing as many push their cars into the luxury car bracket. Unfortunately it is set too low for nowadays.
Always love Nicolas fun and honest reviews.
The lower end of the market has been handed over to the Chinese manufacturers 😂
Great review once again
Greatvreview! I wonder if they can fix the braking issue with a software fix.
2:37 meanwhile Android Auto or Apple Carplay will shove all the notifications right up the screen lol!
Can we close this feature or turn to silent mode in android auto and apple carplay?
Totally agree with the issues being anoying. Brake wobble issue especially needs to be put to stellantis for comment.
What kind of battery is it inside (chemistry)? It is also very important for buyers!
Scenic destroys this bucket
Makes no sense
Interesting about the brakes.
Our Mokka e does the same thing.
Great review!
The Vauxhall badge is associated with cheap hatchbacks and rep mobiles so I’m not sure a lot of these will get sold at £40 - £45K even if it does have some neat touches. The depreciation is going to be severe but probably a good used buy in a few years time if the fairly bland styling doesn’t bother you and you’re not a brand snob, The braking thing may be peculiar to your test car and I’m guessing can be tuned out through software or suspension tweaks. It’s basically a generic platform and wasn’t highlighted as an issue on the Peugeot e3008. Also why was it not wearing Opel badging as it was LHD and you were testing it in Germany?
Would you want to pay £600 tax a year on one as from April 25 from year 2-6 that's what you pay
@@Andy-zi1wj best wait until year 7 when it’s really deprecated. I was paying that to tax a 17 year old ICE car until recently mind you!
Loving the top - you look fit as in that. Oh, and great car review
The first 2 seconds of seeing the car in this video immediately left me thinking it looked bland and uninteresting.....the interior looks better, with some practical touches.
The Scenic E-Tech wipes the floor with this
I’d like the Astra SW built in this platform or a new insignia SW.
As far as the steering wheel goes: looks like you’d be fine by lowering it a little. Wouldn’t that sort it out?
You’ve got it tilted quite high.
I had the cat paw mode on my 3008 I do miss it. Nice video as always Nic.
You can see why Ginny is so keen on the Enyaq when this is one of the alternatives.
Nice one. Opel have done quite a good job on this one, one of the better models to pop a Vauxhall badge on👍 It looks great. As for the ‘lighty uppy’ bits I think it would become really annoying and just a bit…tacky after a while. Doesn’t really sit well on what I guess is marketed as a premium car.
Need to sort that grab on the final bit of the breaking though. Great review and a nice car. Price might still be an issue though for a Vauxhall badge, EV or not.
Will be a fantastic used buy no doubt.
Damn, I was looking forward to this, but the wobble and the price, and no full leather seats, shame. Haven't seen an electric Astra in the wild yet, wonder what you make of that long term.
Does it have V2G capability
Good to see Nicola back.
Great Review as always 🎉🎉
very good car and an awesome review., Subscribed at once
good review 👍
What about the boot and the Frunk?
Will you still get that brake wobble on the petrol mild hybrid version i wonder?
Very nice Car!
Hey Nicola, when you were driving, you seemed to be sitting straight up, while your seat was laid back. Was the seat comfortable?
Would love to know what happens to these one-off left-hand-drive Vauxhalls that Opel make for British press tours. Do they change them all back to Opel or just sell them off to some used car dealership a year later so some random German is given a major discount on it because of the weird badge?
From complete ignorance: Is the Vauxhall brand still valuable enough in the UK not to swap it for OPEL?
Feather the brakes? Do you mean that the engineers have failed to provide enough granularity at the top of the pedals travel (so it is a bit of a switch)? A lot of Corsa-e cars have lousy brake pedal feel too.
What's the indicator sound like Nicola?
I like this woman better than Supercar Blondie, Nicola reviews 10X better 😊
@6.32 Cycling seats, cut outs releases pressure most cyclists use them, hadn’t thought about using that idea in a car, could work?
Hmm, how do you set passenger seat for your driving position?
By moving it to the position I use to drive 🤷🏻♀️
@@nicolahumemeant as a joke.🫣
The biggest problem coming for EV is from April 25 your going to pay £600 tax on any EV over 40k list years 2-6. I know I wouldn't pay that for the vast majority of ev's especially a vauxhall, Peugeot or honda or ford all mainstream manufacturers not luxury cars.
Although many EV's are purchased on Lease through Business so it won't effect new..but second hand will drop even more years 3+
@@robertdon777 most are leased. but PCP sales will be affected
The problem is that 40k is not a luxury car the trigger level should be 60k
@@Chris-mh3vf yes 40k was set back in 2016 for the tax year 2017
On new cars after April 25, not those bought before
Those shiny wheel arch surrounds 🤯
Did they look at the competition b4 putting to market.....Bland and not cheap to buy
17 cm larger?? How long is it then?
Length 465, Width 190, Height 166 cm
Thus ranks among the largest.
14:25 It's like when you are pressing the park brake yourself in any other EV at very low speed. In theory, it could be fixed with a software update, if they can apply the brake-pedal first, then delay the activation of the park brake. 🤔😎
Physical climate controls ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Please can you also talk real range expectations alongside WLTP. Although it’s standard from ice and Ev I’m certain it only adds to the hate messaging when the wltp isn’t aligning to the real world
I suspect that braking can be fixed with a software update
😂😂😂😂 software update evs are just pathetic
Love the car but if inside is made out of recycled material why is it expensive
For the same reason that the price of batteries is supposed to be coming down, and the fact that EVs are supposed to be cheaper/simpler to make and maintain - you're being ripped off.
I like the colour beautiful car
How hot will the phone get inside this closed box with an induction charger in it? Sounds like a good way to fry the battery 🤔
It's giving Pontiac Aztec
If only there's 7 seats option in it would be my next car with 1.5 diesel 😊
Bland exterior, but interior not bad, l I very screen doesn't dominate and more buttons, but those steering wheel button seems a bad move, agree with reviewer, give me more smaller buttons.
Does anyone remember the Vauxhall Frontiera?
It was rubbish too😂
Positives first - great to see Vauxhall have an EV version in each of its models.
Negatives - I just don’t care about Vauxhall. To me, they’re just not desirable. For me, their light up badge is horrible (goes for every other car but the way) but why would I want to promote the fact I’m driving a Vauxhall!
Anyway loved the review Nicola!
Vauxhall Grandad.
Reference the Wobble , it’s either the brake pads wearing in or it’s got floating discs 😂😂
Being honest it seems like a perfectly decent car, but that’s too much money for a Vauxhall. The badge just does not justify that kind of pricing.
Seems like an overly large bland brick that stops like a brick too. Nice colour though.
Good video.... however if you are going to use a large SUV to do the school run why not just buy a bus and take all the little children home! It's a strange thing but I used to get picked up from school in a bubble car a very small car easy to park and much more fun than a boring SUV to ride in.
Good review. Very uninspiring car though. Why would any sane person go for this over a Hyundai, KIA or Renault.
Super ❤
They should sell it as a Chrysler in the US.
This is like the Peugeot E3008 but with different looks.
If priced adequately, it will sell well. Can't ve more than 45k pounds or euros overall.
I like this car but how good is it as an EV , stalantis cars tend to not make their EVs as good as other makers , little things , great presenter !!! I like her , is she new to the channel , she’s really good at articulating her point and funny
It's a car ideal for a cheap roomy rental.
I do not give a da,n about childish light up routines…comfort, range, charge time, 1 pedal, practicality, good streamlining, safety, those matter
Only watching this for Nicola. Wondered where she had gotten to.
Yesterday: lets detox buttons!
Today: lets detox digital! Bring back buttons!
I believe the word you needed at the end was probably ’underwhelmed’
Are you Matt Watson’s sister from a different Mister?😊
@Nicola: I’m in love with you. L. O. V. E. Thank you.
That’s so expensive! 😮 and them brakes would drive me insane!
I am 2 meters with long and huge hands so the steering wheel is an ok size for me.
The list price is too high but you'll almost certainly get some sizeable discounts in the real world....
That wobble will be irritating at traffic lights AND stop start traffic!
Stellantis just crap out the same car under a different badges. I wonder why they even bother to maintain the facade of competition when aside from cosmetic differences a car from Fiat/Citroen/Vauxhall/Opel/Jeep/Peugeot is basically just the same car.
Let’s call it as we see it, it’s Plasticine brown.
Damping needs a tweak I think.
Decent car with a reasonable range needs to be 30k
So Opel/Vauxhall made a car that wobbles when it stops, they went cheap on the steering-wheel buttons and obviously didn't pay the UX (user experience) testers enough to check various positions of seat/steering wheel and see how that changes the way the driver interacts with the car... Reminds me of my previous (and very last forever) Opel... And they want 40+k€ for it... Lol...