John MacArthur on the Land/Kingdom Promised to Israel: A Progressive Covenantal Response

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  • @NorthAvenueChurch
    @NorthAvenueChurch  8 місяців тому

    You can watch the whole Progressive Covenantalism series in order here:
    ua-cam.com/play/PL4nNmjgYbRZ6ji7QJxyxIr90JbCcpK9JR.html

  • @davidperry3096
    @davidperry3096 9 місяців тому +3

    This is the big picture of redemption it is so wonderful, thankyou North Avenue church

  • @roadkill6705
    @roadkill6705 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for this teaching of the eternal eschaton of rest from the beginning.

  • @DeanSpitzer
    @DeanSpitzer 8 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic teaching!! It really makes the three stages of God's rest clear!!

  • @bodilhaukeland9932
    @bodilhaukeland9932 9 місяців тому +2

    Amazing teaching !! Thank you !! 🙏🏼

  • @lowrider4886
    @lowrider4886 7 місяців тому +1

    EPHESIANS 6 1-3 is a real streach to refer to the new earth. "That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth."

  • @clarkkent5442
    @clarkkent5442 7 місяців тому +1

    37:35. another thing I find entertaining. protestants are form believers in sola scriptura, yet these two men are wildly apart in their interpretations of the same script. not only that, but this pastor routinely visits extra-biblical texts to justify his interpretation of the scriptures. so tell me, if it's valid to justify your interpretations of the bible by referencing people outside the bible, why isn't the majisterium also a valid means to attain biblical understanding of scripture? especially since the majesterium has been around for millenia?

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 9 місяців тому

    Jewish wedding symbolism:
    (A gospel within the gospel)
    "Let not your heart be troubled: you believe in God, believe also in me.
    In my Father's house (in heaven) are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
    And if I go and prepare a place for you, I WILL COME AGAIN, and receive you unto myself; *that where I am* there (in heaven) you may be also.
    And where I go you know, and the way you know."
    Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
    Jesus saith unto him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: *no man* comes unto the Father (who art in heaven), *but* by me."
    {John 14:1-6}
    --The time of the wedding was determined by the bridegroom's father and at the time determined by the father the bridegroom would fetch his bride and bring her back to his place prepared for them at his father's house.
    And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
    {Revelation 8:1}
    But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men
    {2 Peter 3:7} (Jer 4:23-28, Zeph 3:6)
    ....
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
    {2 Peter 3:13}
    --The resurrected saints will enter in the gates of heaven into the new Jerusalem, that has been prepared for us *in heaven*
    Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
    {Revelation 22:14}
    (But *the rest of the dead* lived not again until the thousand years were finished.) This is the first resurrection.
    {Revelation 20:5}
    ^
    No man left alive on earth, after Jesus Christ comes again.
    Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus will raise up us also by Jesus, and will present us with you (in heaven).
    {2 Corinthians 4:14}
    To the end [objective] he may establish your hearts unblameable in holiness *before* God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ *with all his saints*
    {1 Thessalonians 3:13}
    (The time of the wedding feast)
    "But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you IN MY FATHER'S KINGDOM."
    {Matthew 26:29}
    --The saints, after the thousand years (tabernacle) in heaven, the saints of God will descend with the Father and the Son and the host of heaven, with the new city and we will be spectators in our Creator's new six day creation of the new heavens and of the new earth. (Rev 21:1, Is 66:22-23, Zach 8:3, 14:4)
    And the goat (scapegoat) will bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land NOT INHABITED: and he will release the goat in the wilderness.
    {Leviticus 16:22}
    And when the thousand years are expired, satan (the literal Azazel the scapegoat) will be loosed out of his prison, (also chains of circumstance.)
    (The resurrection of the condemnation.)
    And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
    And will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, GOG and MAGOG, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
    And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and DEVOURED them.
    {Revelation 20:7-9}
    And the saints will sing;
    O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your victory?
    {1 Corinthians 15:55}
    --Like the children of Israel, the saints will have a dispensation (time) of tabernacle with God the Father and with his Son, our Lord Jesus Christ in heaven, before the inheritance (and our eternal kingdom, and home in the country) is given to the saints.
    This being the new heavens and the new earth, that the nation of Israel symbolized in the type of the end time greater reality.
    These [The Patriarchs] all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed THAT THEY WERE STRANGERS AND PILGRIMS ON THE EARTH.
    For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
    And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
    But now they desire a better country, THAT IS AN HEAVENLY: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: *for he hath prepared for them a city*
    {Romans 11:13-16}
    Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for GREAT IS YOUR REWARD IN HEAVEN: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
    {Matthew 5:12}
    For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, *we have a building of God* an house not made with hands, eternal *in the heavens*
    {2 Corinthians 5:1}

  • @fofokeith
    @fofokeith 8 місяців тому

    What is the name of the book you are reading from by Tom Schreiner?

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 9 місяців тому +1

    “For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father *with his angels* and then he shall reward *every man* according to his works.”
    {Matthew 16:27}
    “For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.”
    {Luke 9:26}
    *The chariots* of God are twenty thousand, even thousands *of angels* the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.
    {Psalm 68:17}
    Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: *who maketh the clouds his chariot* who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
    {Psalm 104:3}
    Behold, *he cometh with clouds* and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
    {Revelation 1:7}

  • @D80pfb
    @D80pfb 9 місяців тому +1

    The protestant Ben Shapiro! My old ears have a hard time keeping up! But the truth is an amazing thing and it get to you some way, somehow! God bless you for your ministry.

  • @richardjackson7887
    @richardjackson7887 6 місяців тому

    Its not so simple to explain but here's the short version.
    Jacob's name was changed to Israel which means, he who contends with God. I will not let you go until you bless me!
    So who is Israel?
    God worked 6 days and rested on the 7th. If ye will enter my rest!! The last day!

  • @rolysantos
    @rolysantos 9 місяців тому +3

    I was going to mention Daniel 2:44 where in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom," and you mentioned it.
    This is the SPIRITUAL Kingdom of the TRUE Israel and the Son of David, promised to sit on His throne forever, being fulfilled.
    The Earthly/Natural throne of David was "Cast to the ground" (Psalm 89:39)
    "You have renounced the covenant of Your servant; You have profaned his crown by casting it to the ground."
    Everything in Adam, earthly, FAILED!
    Only that which is the second Adam, Messiah, the True Israel, Jesus, will last forever!

  • @gracelandministries1846
    @gracelandministries1846 5 місяців тому

    It is impossible for a Christian to reign in their intermediate state. Christians cannot reign until they receive their Objective Immortality (I Thessalonians 4:13-18; I Corinthians 15:51-58) and Fine Linen (Revelation 19:7). No New Testament author claimed that we will reign in our intermediate state. You have to assume that Christians are in the Book of Revelation Chapters 6-19. Plus, how can there be a Thousand temporal years in an Eternal Heaven.

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 9 місяців тому

    The state of the dead, according to the word of God.
    But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die*
    {Genesis 2:17}
    Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
    ...
    So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep*
    O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
    If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
    👉till my change come.
    ...
    His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them.
    {Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21}
    And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God.
    {Job 19:26}
    Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest.
    {The Preacher 9:10}
    Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
    His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish*
    {Psalm 146:3-4}
    Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well.
    Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
    Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead."
    {John 11:12-14}
    ...
    Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection
    👉at the last day.
    Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:"
    {John 11:24-25}
    But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days*
    {Daniel 12:13}
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life.
    {John 3:16}
    And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die*
    {Genesis 3:4}
    Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire*
    {Ezekiel 28:14}
    ^
    (satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.)
    The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
    *He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil*
    {Isaiah 33:14-15}
    If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.

  • @arthurhoyte1964
    @arthurhoyte1964 9 місяців тому

    Gentlemen, would you please explain how this debate/discussion advances the cause of the gospe.l

    • @rubeno.2808
      @rubeno.2808 9 місяців тому +1

      Because we’re instructed to contend for the faith, to keep sound doctrine.. do not let any errors creep in as it says Jude..

    • @MarkNorthAveChurch
      @MarkNorthAveChurch 9 місяців тому +1

      Arthur, thank you for engaging with our video and providing feedback. I think I understand your concern. Obviously preaching the gospel is the most important and central concern we have as evangelical, Bible-believing Christians. And I am in lock step with John MacArthur on the gospel. I have benefited greatly from his ministry since my conversion twenty years ago. However, while the gospel message is "of first importance" (1 Cor 15:3), it is not the only matter in Scripture that is important. Everything Scripture teaches is of real consequence for the believer, or God would not have included it in His word.
      Every word of Scripture should be read, studied, and taught because "all Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable" (2 Timothy 3:16). And the land/kingdom promised to Israel is taught on in (among other places) Isaiah 2-4; 9-11; 40-66; Ezekiel 36-48; Zechariah 14; Micah 4; Daniel 7-12; Amos 9; Psalm 2; 72; etc. It is also explained in the NT in Romans 4:13; Hebrews 3-4; 11; Acts 1-11; 15; Revelation 21-22.
      Surely these passages are still worthy of some of our time as believers today! They are not as central as the core gospel message, but they are part of teaching "the whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:27).

    • @Joshhsoj
      @Joshhsoj 2 місяці тому

      @@MarkNorthAveChurchyou could also say that the good news of the gospel includes what awaits those who are in Christ. This message gives hope to the suffering believer as we see a world of pain and injustice. It reminds us not to harden our heart or become attached to this world but to long for the one to come (Hebrews 3-4)

  • @Mendezfarriercompany306
    @Mendezfarriercompany306 2 місяці тому

    Joel2 . Isiah 2. Daniel 2. Then read acts 2 and you will see the kingdom is established

  • @lowrider4886
    @lowrider4886 7 місяців тому

    Keep in mind these differences are trivial in Gods eyes, maybe that’s Gods purpose so that the conversation continues in front of our for heads and in our hand. (Bible).

  • @logos37
    @logos37 9 місяців тому

    thank you pastor Mark, but question, what say you about the 1948 origin of Israel? why does the nation exist all of a sudden? would it be that israel will contain the final remnant of true followers of the Torah who will then have a chance to hear the gospel thus fulfilling the 144k chosen out of the Tribes that Only the Godhead knows? thank you for your time.

    • @mosesking2923
      @mosesking2923 7 місяців тому

      Many amillenialists (myself included) believe that the state of Israel is a tool that God will use to convert the Jews to Christianity before Christ’s return, as prophecied in Romans 11 “all Israel shall be saved” and Matt 23 “I will not return until they say ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord’”

  • @hoodnlott5679
    @hoodnlott5679 9 місяців тому

    Love the message. Just to add to it. The passages in 2 Peter talking about the burning of the elements is a mistranslation. The Greek word interpreted as “elements” (stoicheia) is interpreted as principles in the rest of the New Testament, not Earth Wind and Fire. So what Peter says will burn is actually the principles or the order of things.

    • @Joshhsoj
      @Joshhsoj 2 місяці тому

      Wait fr? I’ve literally never heard of this bout to look into it more!!

  • @lowrider4886
    @lowrider4886 7 місяців тому

    How to slow down while speaking?
    Fast-talking can really hinder our ability to communicate effectively with people; hence, it is important to regulate our speech rate. Here are a few tips for doing the same:
    1. Start becoming aware of your speech rate by monitoring it
    2. Mindfully start taking pauses as you speak
    3. Ask the listeners to give you a reminder when they see you speaking quickly
    4. Check in with the listener to see if they got your point so far, and take a pause to summarize.

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 9 місяців тому

    And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto *the resurrection of life* and they that have done evil, unto *the resurrection of damnation*
    {John 5:29}
    And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, *both* of *the just and unjust*
    {Acts 24:15}
    *But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished* This is the first resurrection.
    Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such *the second death* hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
    {Revelation 20:5-6}
    And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and ("""a thousand years""") some to shame and everlasting contempt.
    {Daniel 12:2}

  • @Mendezfarriercompany306
    @Mendezfarriercompany306 9 місяців тому

    There is 2 resurrection in scripture like there is 2 deaths. But the first resurrection is in spirit.
    As believers though we die physically our souls do not stay in the grave (Hades) as the unbelievers do. But our souls are joined with Christ jn 11:25. That's why it is said we fall "asleep" jn 11:11.
    Another argument for they are living now with christ. Matt 22: 31-32

    • @larrybedouin2921
      @larrybedouin2921 9 місяців тому

      And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto *the resurrection of life* and they that have done evil, unto *the resurrection of damnation*
      {John 5:29}
      And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, *both* of *the just and unjust*
      {Acts 24:15}
      *But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished* This is the first resurrection.
      Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such *the second death* hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
      {Revelation 20:5-6}
      And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and ("""a thousand years""") some to shame and everlasting contempt.
      {Daniel 12:2}

    • @Mendezfarriercompany306
      @Mendezfarriercompany306 9 місяців тому

      @@larrybedouin2921 ? Did you read the references? Because rev 20 has the same language as Matt and jn references. The 1st resurrection is in spirit. That's clear. And 1 thes 4 makes clear that he will return with them and they will receive thier resurrection bodies and those that are on earth will as well. I don't see where those with chrost now get resurrection bodies twice. Nore does scripture teach that.

    • @larrybedouin2921
      @larrybedouin2921 9 місяців тому

      @@Mendezfarriercompany306
      There is no such thing as a spiritual resurrection.
      The state of the dead, according to the word of God.
      But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die*
      {Genesis 2:17}
      Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
      ...
      So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep*
      O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
      If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
      👉till my change come.
      ...
      His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them.
      {Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21}
      And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God.
      {Job 19:26}
      Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest.
      {The Preacher 9:10}
      Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
      His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish*
      {Psalm 146:3-4}
      Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well.
      Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
      Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead."
      {John 11:12-14}
      ...
      Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection
      👉at the last day.
      Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:"
      {John 11:24-25}
      But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days*
      {Daniel 12:13}
      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life.
      {John 3:16}
      And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die*
      {Genesis 3:4}
      Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire*
      {Ezekiel 28:14}
      ^
      (satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.)
      The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
      *He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil*
      {Isaiah 33:14-15}
      If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.

    • @larrybedouin2921
      @larrybedouin2921 9 місяців тому

      @@Mendezfarriercompany306
      Immortality is conditional.
      Shall *mortal man* be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
      {Job 14:7}
      Let not sin therefore reign in *your mortal body* that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
      {Romans 6:12}
      For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest *in our mortal flesh*
      {2 Corinthians 4:11}
      For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and *this mortal* must put on immortality.
      So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and *this mortal* shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
      {1 Corinthians 15:53-54}
      But *if* the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken *your mortal bodies* by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
      {Romans 8:11}
      “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again
      👉at the last day.”
      “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up
      👉at the last day.”
      {John 6:39-40}
      “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up
      👉at the last day.”
      {John 6:44}
      “Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up
      👉at the last day.”
      {John 6:64}
      But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's *at his coming*
      {1 Corinthians 15:23}

    • @larrybedouin2921
      @larrybedouin2921 9 місяців тому

      @@Mendezfarriercompany306
      There is no such thing as a spiritual resurrection.
      Immortality is conditional.
      Shall *mortal man* be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
      {Job 14:7}
      Let not sin therefore reign in *your mortal body* that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
      {Romans 6:12}
      For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest *in our mortal flesh*
      {2 Corinthians 4:11}
      For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and *this mortal* must put on immortality.
      So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and *this mortal* shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
      {1 Corinthians 15:53-54}
      But *if* the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken *your mortal bodies* by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
      {Romans 8:11}
      “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again
      👉at the last day.”
      “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up
      👉at the last day.”
      {John 6:39-40}
      “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up
      👉at the last day.”
      {John 6:44}
      “Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up
      👉at the last day.”
      {John 6:64}
      But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's *at his coming*
      {1 Corinthians 15:23}

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 9 місяців тому +2

    Who are the Israel of God?
    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
    And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
    {Galatians 3:28-29}
    For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
    But he is a Jew, *which is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart in the spirit* and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
    {Romans 2:28-29}
    Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
    That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
    BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ*
    For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
    Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;
    And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby*
    And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
    For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
    Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God;
    [The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun]
    {Ephesians 2:11-19}
    Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
    But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
    {Acts 10:34-35}
    Again...
    But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
    For there is no respect of persons with God.
    {Romans 2:10-11}
    Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel:
    *Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
    That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed.
    {Romans 9:6-8}
    Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
    But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
    {Galatians 4:28-29}
    For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
    And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and
    upon *the Israel of God*
    {Galatians 6:15-16}
    And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again*
    {Romans 11:23}
    For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus*
    For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
    {Galatians 3:26-27}

  • @williamslaffey6438
    @williamslaffey6438 7 місяців тому +1

    John McArthur is correct. You don't spiritualize something that is clearly stated. But you want to win your argument.

  • @clarkkent5442
    @clarkkent5442 7 місяців тому

    8:13 I'm always fascinated by how protestants can claim they're taking the pain meaning of the bible and in the next breath argue against John 6:35-63. I truly think the majority of it stems from the fact that they lack apostolic succession

  • @eugenegarcia9415
    @eugenegarcia9415 9 місяців тому

    Many gentiles are actually Israelites under Israel their are many nations with the Jews ( modern state of Israel) formally the kingdom of Judah include. Many ignore Deuteronomy 32:26. The house of Israel ( ten tribes) were to loose their national identity, language and religion.

  • @triciachampine5807
    @triciachampine5807 6 місяців тому

    John mccarther mischaracterizes everything in your position. I believe it must be on purpose in order to deceive. We really need to stop giving him the benefit of the doubt, saying he deceives, but he didn't mean to. Come on

  • @JeanMarcelino-qr9ju
    @JeanMarcelino-qr9ju 7 місяців тому

    Thier mind and eye's focus on Israel not Jesus Christ ❤️

  • @JeanMarcelino-qr9ju
    @JeanMarcelino-qr9ju 7 місяців тому

    Highest level of delusions upstake

  • @JeanMarcelino-qr9ju
    @JeanMarcelino-qr9ju 7 місяців тому

    All Religious Denomination are all debunked concerning the Truth John 14:6

  • @Marco-yc3mq
    @Marco-yc3mq 7 місяців тому

    I learned so much truth in this church age of dispensionalism, thanks a lot

  • @MrSmeagolKitty
    @MrSmeagolKitty 9 місяців тому

    What do amillennialists think about Israel becoming a nation again? It's seems to be a big feather in the cap of the dispensationalists. Lines up with their eschatology pretty well.

    • @rolysantos
      @rolysantos 9 місяців тому

      1948 was a political man-made creation of a earthly national Israel.
      An example that I use is if dispensationalists were there when God promised Sarah that she was going to have a son , then watched as Sarah in an attempt to make God’s promise come true, had Abraham go in with Hagar, which brought forth Ishmael, the dispensationalists would claim
      “ behold, the promise of God has come true!”
      And yet we know that it did not come true through the actions taken by human beings .
      Not by Might , nor by power, but my my spirit says the Lord!
      God’s promise was fulfilled by God by his spirit !
      Likewise , The restoration of Israel is not an earthly national thing brought about by wealthy, powerful human beings like the Rothchilds.
      Read Isaiah 49
      You will see that the Lord called the servant “Israel”
      Who would bring about the restoration of Jacob (earthly national Israel)
      As well as bring in the gentiles.
      That is exactly what Jesus did by the gospel !
      An act one, the remnant of Israel was brought into the kingdom by the Holy Spirit
      In Acts 10 gentiles were brought into the kingdom, the same way
      Also Read Romans 11 .
      What Israel sought to obtain It did not obtain but the elect did!
      The Israel of God are born into the Jerusalem above who is the mother of us all both Jew and Gentile.
      See Galatians 3 and 4, Hebrews 12:22, Isaiah 54.
      For a very good reading on this subject, I would suggest that you read Phillip Mauro, The hope of Israel.
      It is available online online to read .
      Dispensationalists do not understand that they have a false dichotomy of literal versus spiritual interpretation .
      The biblical interpretation according to first Corinthians 15 is earthly natural which comes first and then heavenly spiritual, both literal.

    • @kimmykimko
      @kimmykimko 9 місяців тому

      No different than God blinding the Jews' eyes to allow them to kill their own messiah. They still are in total rebellion and going about to establish things by their own carnal means while ignoring the spiritual fulfilment (prophesied in Daniel). They fill up their wrath to the fullest. The natural,carnal man cannot please God and anyone without the Spirit of Christ/born again is carnal. God made it clear they were done in 70 Ad, but they dont care, they are Zionists from the synagogue of Satan. I don't believe it has any thing to do with God's perfect will, but God allows it because it will ultimately fulfill prophecy. Do some research about it.

  • @eugenegarcia9415
    @eugenegarcia9415 9 місяців тому

    First error both are In is believing that Jews are all of Israel or that Jews are the nation of Israel. Jews no doubt are Israelites BUT all Israelites are not Jews. Joseph, Manasseh, Ephraim, Dan, Reuben, ect are not Jews. The term Jew is a nickname for The tribe of Judah, who was separated from the nation Israel to become a separate new nation: the kingdom of Judah of Judea. And the tribe of Benjamin and later Levi joined after being kicked out of the nation Israel. So Judah, Benjamin and Levi Only ; became known as Jews until today. He said all of Israel was taken as slaves by the Babylonians. No only the Jews ( the kingdom of Judah of Judea); Judah, Benjamin and Levi. After Salomon reign over all the tribes of Israel; God put forth his promise to Abraham Isaac and Jacob of making them fathers of Many Nations;Genesis 17,18,35,48,49 chapters. Not just one nation BUT MANY. Genesis 35 God tells Jacob he was to become a father of one great nation And a group or company of nations. In Genesis 48 tells us who of his sons would inherit this promise. Manasseh was to become the great nation and Ephraim the group or company of nations, and it was Manasseh and Ephraim sons of Joseph who actually inherited the the name ISRAEL and not Judah ( Jews) . In Genesis 49 Jacob blesses his 12 biological sons and tells them where on earth they also would settle and become independent NATIONS. Many have overlooked Psalms 89:25 where God tells David that God was also going to set( establish, plant) the scepter ( throne, crown) in the Sea. The minor prophets call the house of Israel not the house of Judah ( Jews) isles, coastal lands. The ten tribe kingdom of Israel ( the house of Israel; the lost sheep of the house of Israel) were taken as slaves by the Assyrians 150 yrs before the jews( house of Judah; kingdom of Judah of Judea) were taken slaves by the Chaldean empire ( Babylon). 70 yrs later the only ones that returned to Jerusalem capital of Judah of Judea to rebuild the temple were the Jews ( the house of Judah; Judah, Benjamin and Levi) ONLY. The ten tribes of the house of Israel didn’t and have not returned to Samaria in northern Israel because they after obtaining their freedom freedom from the Assyrians went northwest into the sea . This was to continue to fulfill the promises made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to become fathers of many nations. Why have we not believe this promises . The descendants of David have continued to be kings over Israel all this years since the last known king of Judah ( Zedekiah) Jeremiah was used to tear, root out the crown ( throne) out of the house of Judah to be planted and built again in the house of Israel, especially in the tribe of Ephraim who along with Manasseh inherited the name Israel.

  • @rossjpurdy
    @rossjpurdy 9 місяців тому +1

    Genre is a modern invention that the writers of Scripture had no knowledge of.

  • @davebailey7053
    @davebailey7053 7 місяців тому

    Wow and this is our new breed of preachers lord Jesus help us all. So so lost really bad misinterpreted scriptures. Still loves yas just cannot listen to this deceitful gospel. God Bless. I also don't follow John MacArthur's teaching.

  • @tonyvinesmusic
    @tonyvinesmusic 9 місяців тому

    Oh the arrogance....

    • @rolysantos
      @rolysantos 9 місяців тому

      Arrogance?
      Oh the irony that you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and yet you accuse others of arrogance !

  • @margaretcorrigan6030
    @margaretcorrigan6030 7 місяців тому

    I don’t like your constant interruptions to John MacArthur, let us listen to him then you can comment at the end of the

  • @MarshallSkyview
    @MarshallSkyview Місяць тому

    You need to pick up your dictionary, and look up the word, “forever”! Then please stop promoting replacement theology, or everything else you preach is a moot point! Sorry, but with all due respect for your desire to enlighten, your teachings are just off the mark.