New Big Picture - THE F---POINT PARADOX (450th Episode!)

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  • @Shogunisdead
    @Shogunisdead 2 роки тому +347

    I hope the weight has been lifted off your shoulders a bit Bob. This is still in my opinion one of the best shows on the web for true critical thinking about popular culture. You truly do exceptional work.

    • @NelsonStJames
      @NelsonStJames 2 роки тому +2

      It definitely used to be, but man that was a long time ago. Film criticism is dependent on objectivity, and Bob along with a vast amount of online reviewers has thrown objectivity out of the window to the point that much of it is unwatchable -- and I don't think that's really going to change. The fact that Miller was a "trans, non-binary actor" should have had no bearing on whether or not the things he was reported as doing deserved bending over backward for, because you certainly wouldn't have done it for any other actor. You could have called him out without bringing any of that stuff up. Film enthusiasts want to hear informed criticism, not someones biased opinions that are only their opinions, and that dominates everything now.

    • @Hal9000ize
      @Hal9000ize 2 роки тому

      Was that a fat joke?

    • @Shogunisdead
      @Shogunisdead 2 роки тому +1

      @@Hal9000ize my comment is open to interpretation I suppose.🙃

  • @bryalogicalgaming5817
    @bryalogicalgaming5817 2 роки тому +81

    Calling someone "the honey boo boo guy" is straight up the deepest lowkey shade of all time.

    • @CharginChuck
      @CharginChuck 2 роки тому +7

      I really, REALLY hope that nickname catches on.

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark 2 роки тому +1

      @@CharginChuck
      I just call him Davy Boo-Boo.

  • @Mecha82
    @Mecha82 2 роки тому +120

    I feel you man. As European watching this "culture war" and hypocrisy of those "anti-woke" folks is painful. Like they lack any self-awareness while blaming "the others" from same things that they do even more.

    • @thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247
      @thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 2 роки тому

      "The Culture War" isn't even a culture war, not on the same level as all that Protestant Vs. Catholic, Enlightenment Vs. Divine Right Of Kings, Free World Vs. Nazis, Eagle Vs. Bear stuff of ages past. It's mostly pointless shouting-matches on Twitter between Neo-Nazis and wannabe Robespierres, and GOP cheerleaders whining about "wokeness" on Fox News while everyone else looks aghast at the Trump Cult all "Oh dear God, it's one of THOSE. Is it armed? How soon can I get away from this foul beast?". It's all very stupid and non-consequential.

    • @dwc1964
      @dwc1964 2 роки тому +2

      I understand it's leaked over there too - more or less badly, depending on where in Europe ("ah yes, the great nation of Europe")

    • @thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247
      @thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 2 роки тому +9

      @@dwc1964 Some places more than others. Hungary's current ruler is "Oh, you thought Hitler was a dick? Hold my beer."

    • @MrBrothasky
      @MrBrothasky 2 роки тому +2

      This is so fucking true. It's rediculous. Imagine living within a population where people actually buy in to this bullshit.

    • @thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247
      @thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 2 роки тому +9

      @@MrBrothasky I live in rural south-central Michigan. I don't HAVE to imagine.
      MovieBob is 100% right... the farther you get from water, Canada or a major metropolitan area, the more it's all basically "Fury Road" with more mega-churches and Chik-Fil-A's.

  • @forbiddenwar45
    @forbiddenwar45 2 роки тому +10

    God I hope the writer of Batgirl is snatched up by marvel for a squirrel girl project.

  • @jinpei05
    @jinpei05 2 роки тому +51

    Somewhere, Disney is licking their chops at the prospect of swooping in and owning both of America's biggest comic book publishers after the entire enterprise implodes.

    • @archer1949
      @archer1949 2 роки тому +10

      Considering the joke that antitrust and anti monopoly regulations have become, that could be a distinct possibility. As a lifelong DC Comics fan, I’m so freaking tired.

    • @CharginChuck
      @CharginChuck 2 роки тому +16

      The fact that all this bullshit is making a tiny part of my brain almost want to root for a monopoly just shows how fucked up everything has gotten.

    • @madsgrams2069
      @madsgrams2069 2 роки тому +11

      @@CharginChuck I mean...Disney's every bit as awful as a corporation of that size can be, but...at least they're not throwing people's finished hard work into the effin' trash-can...

    • @crapstirrer
      @crapstirrer 2 роки тому +5

      Yeah. They actually went ahead with New Mutants release despite it only being announced to pump up the Fox acquisition price.

    • @jasonblalock4429
      @jasonblalock4429 2 роки тому +8

      @@archer1949 Oof, you genuinely have my sympathies. I've always been a Marvel guy, but I have nothing *against* DC, and even I'm genuinely sad about what's happened to DC over the last decade. And I really don't want Disney/Marvel to buy them. There should still be SOME competition in the space.

  • @Cameroo
    @Cameroo 2 роки тому +83

    Thanks for voicing the psychic scream of the modern age Bob. This really has been one of the most hard to watch trash fires of a media empire I've seen in ages and the fans are just amazingly awful with this shit.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 2 роки тому

      "fans"...always a good one; can't believe in ANY of these vocal idiots when they claim to be "fans" anymore...

  • @beermanmccool1226
    @beermanmccool1226 2 роки тому +9

    It's been just _two weeks_ since this video and the Honey Boo Boo guy's grand plan just _lost_ 20 billion dollars.
    Yeah, something tells me their 10-year plan ain't happening.

  • @gamelairtim
    @gamelairtim 2 роки тому +47

    The “I’m glad the woke people got screwed” crowd apparently don’t realize these creators are just going to end up going to Marvel and Disney and getting rich.

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 2 роки тому

      And these same fools will blindly cheer for A race swapped Professor X, and Magneto.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 2 роки тому +10

      I mean, say what you will about the MCU, but they do tend to actually RELEASE things they made.

  • @Wrynwynn
    @Wrynwynn 2 роки тому +137

    I’m excited to have a more “care-less” bob because I think he’ll still make excellent work just on a more regular basis, but I hope you’re still taking care of yourself, man. Don’t let the garbage made by other channels interrupt your process or mental health. ♥️

    • @mowdownjoe
      @mowdownjoe 2 роки тому +4

      There was an old saying in the early days of the internet: "Don't feed the trolls." Somewhere along the line, social media engagement algorithms decided to say "Fuck that noise" and made them prominently visible. We've also seen huge spikes in anxiety and other mental health issues coinciding with the rise of social media. What I'm trying to say is that it might be a good idea to step away from Twitter from a bit, for the sake of your mental health.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому +1

      @@mowdownjoe It's sound advice. As our Mr. Chipman is fond of telling the truly delusional, "touch grass."

  • @Ishma3l
    @Ishma3l 2 роки тому +91

    Congrats on hitting 450 eps! Keep on keeping on. This is a tough gig but your content is damn worth it!

  • @neminemMaxime
    @neminemMaxime 2 роки тому +196

    I've been watching Bob for ten years and only just realized I appreciate him for being an angry nerd I actually agree with

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому +15

      Not JUST angry...RIGHTEOUSLY angry. I don't always agree with him but I never doubt he's on the side of folks I am.

    • @dimensionzone8048
      @dimensionzone8048 2 роки тому +2

      @@johnathonhaney8291 same man

    • @peggyliepmann5248
      @peggyliepmann5248 2 роки тому +10

      He's angry, but he's not up his own ass about it. That's shockingly rare on the internet.

    • @spshouppe
      @spshouppe 2 роки тому +4

      @@johnathonhaney8291 at the end of the day, no matter if I can 100% get behind what he says or not, I'm glad he's ultimately on the right side of things.

    • @mabusestestament
      @mabusestestament 2 роки тому

      Yeah I've always sensed so much anger in him.

  • @Argaroth666
    @Argaroth666 2 роки тому +13

    I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Zaslav runs WB into the ground and Disney buys it along with the whole DC library 🤣🤣🤣 Love you, Bob.

  • @omeysalvi
    @omeysalvi 2 роки тому +46

    There were probably 4 more Ezra Miller scandals between the time moviebob finished the video and the video finished uploading.

    • @Alevamltd
      @Alevamltd 2 роки тому +2

      "They laughed when I said four."

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 2 роки тому

      They really are just the biggest trainwreck ever, aren't they...

    • @L1701
      @L1701 2 роки тому

      Four?! Sounds like they had a slow day.

    • @widdlewanwon
      @widdlewanwon 2 роки тому +1

      @@Alevamltd Lmao

  • @versena
    @versena 2 роки тому +8

    The repeating of "Honey Boo Boo" over and over cracked me up. As did Bob pronouncing boo boo the way Jafar says "Prince Abooboo" from Aladdin. 😂

  • @HandofOmega
    @HandofOmega 2 роки тому +6

    Yeah, people tend to expose their own biases...Kinda like how angry fanbois were telling Brie Larson to shut up about her "woke" politics because actors shouldn't be talking about such things, only to start fangasming over Gina Carano, when she did the exact same thing, only with a right-wing bent!

  • @StephenLeGresley
    @StephenLeGresley 2 роки тому +62

    Congrats on 450 Bob. I remember almost a decade ago when I learned about this channel from my college film professor (yea, did you know they use your videos to teach people in college and have for a very long time now?) and went on a watched every last video. You did great work then, you do great work now and I'm really excited to see the next 450 of these. Thanks for the hard work! :)

  • @SirPaladin
    @SirPaladin 2 роки тому +60

    450 is also the number of crimes Ezra Miller has committed during production of The Flash movie.

  • @gonesnake2337
    @gonesnake2337 2 роки тому +85

    Fantastic use of a fantastic Newsradio clip. Concise references amongst the rapid-fire Moviebob delivery. Well done.

    • @FNGLHR
      @FNGLHR 2 роки тому +4

      I could only hope to have his reference quota. The best I can do is find Simpsons quotes that fit.

  • @einootspork
    @einootspork 2 роки тому +34

    At this point Disney feels like the "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing" meme. Of course it's not true, they're ramping up production and doing more than ever, but when this is your competition, you don't *need* to try.

    • @mattboy5296
      @mattboy5296 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah. Their two biggest competitors trying their own superhero shared cinematic universe are a flailing Warner Brothers with their mess of... *gestures broadly* everything, and Sony with a Spider-Man universe that doesn't actually have a Spider-Man, whose biggest claim to fame is allowing Disney to use Spider-Man to make much better movies in their own universe, and inadvertently turning a terrible Morbius movie into one of the biggest internet memes of the year. Disney and Marvel Studios really don't need to do that much to stay on top.

    • @crapstirrer
      @crapstirrer 2 роки тому +2

      How could DC mess this up so bad? They started with the greatest stable of comic book characters.

    • @blahthebiste7924
      @blahthebiste7924 2 роки тому +1

      To be fair, Disney's ramped up production seems to be hurting their quality, none of the newer Marvel movies have seemed particularly good or finished since Shang Chi.

    • @einootspork
      @einootspork 2 роки тому +3

      @@blahthebiste7924 Yeah, actually they would be doing better if they WERE doing less. I think the problems with the MCU right now are kind of overblown (and honestly a lot of people are looking back at the previous three phases with rose-colored glasses and it's always had problems) but I can't deny there's something that seems to be missing.

    • @blahthebiste7924
      @blahthebiste7924 2 роки тому +1

      @@einootspork I agree there were always stinkers in the first 2 phases, especially the first 2 Thor movies, but I also don't have any nostalgia (or much memory at all) of the Iron Man movies. Nor did I enjoy the first Avengers that much. Still, I think the ratio of hits to misses is much lower right now than phase 2, at the very least.

  • @Tks525
    @Tks525 2 роки тому +56

    Thank you Bob, for showcasing and digesting all of this madness in an entertaining way so that we can keep a safe distance from it.

  • @blendernoob64
    @blendernoob64 2 роки тому +28

    Finally, someone calls out all the Quartering clones running rampant around franchise film UA-cam

    • @williambell3304
      @williambell3304 2 роки тому +6

      Oh Gods the Quartering. I encountered that for 1 single sentence one time and it told me all I needed to know about that.

    • @esimonsays14
      @esimonsays14 2 роки тому

      I'd love to destroy the facility they spawn from (and Jeremy too, why not?)

  • @davidandersson7642
    @davidandersson7642 2 роки тому +6

    This episode should be as popular as your Pixels review. This should really be the rage monologue people come to know you for. Excellently done. And congrats on 450!

  • @Rubberman202
    @Rubberman202 2 роки тому +5

    David Zaslav is going to go down in history as the guy put in charge to fix everything at Warner Bros. only to make things significantly worse.

  • @SgtKaneGunlock
    @SgtKaneGunlock 2 роки тому +4

    you know Bob ain't fucking around when the Boston accent slips in

  • @madsgrams2069
    @madsgrams2069 2 роки тому +49

    I really liked your tirade against the right-wing reactionary chud-o-sphere on YT and beyond, Bob. Mirrors my sentiments on them EXACTLY!!! Never change, dude, NEVER change!!!!

    • @dimensionzone8048
      @dimensionzone8048 2 роки тому +2

      Ikr ? Said it perfectly

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 2 роки тому

      Yet, you blindly support left wing grifters who want to take away your freedoms, and force you to wear a mask, stay inside, eat bugs, own nothing, and just accept it while they continue top release violent criminals, fly their expensive jets, raid people's homes, and act like war mongers.

  • @alberthwang2900
    @alberthwang2900 2 роки тому +3

    "You know who David Zasler is, right?"
    Me: "I have no idea. Probably some hollywood suit--"
    "He's the guy that turned Discovery and TLC into the Honey Boo-Boo Channel and gave the Duggars their own show."
    Me: ". . . YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUU!!!"

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому

      For some reason, I hear the late Sir Christopher Lee say that last word.

  • @LikeoftheConchords
    @LikeoftheConchords 2 роки тому +42

    As someone who paid attention to like 1% of this B's and was done after that, I give you a lot of props for sticking with it. I hope whatever video you make next is more fun to make for ya.

  • @daelen.cclark
    @daelen.cclark 2 роки тому +4

    “Sell all my Warner Brothers stock. I got an inside tip that Bugs Bunny’s about to die!”
    -Daffy Duck

  • @DavidRichardson153
    @DavidRichardson153 2 роки тому +26

    I get the feeling that I and Bob were not the only ones who needed this video.
    Also, Zaslav is the one who is responsible for turning Discovery into what it is now, and Honey BooBoo and The Duggars were his legacy? Yeah, now I really needed this video.

  • @googamp32
    @googamp32 2 роки тому +57

    Bob: "The best thing that could happen to Warner-Discovery is for the whole thing to collapse to the ground and for some other entity to take over all of this shit."
    Disney: "We agree!"

    • @Dynamo_06
      @Dynamo_06 2 роки тому +4

      will Disney ever become rich enough to actually buy Warner Bros?

    • @googamp32
      @googamp32 2 роки тому +7

      @@Dynamo_06 They were rich enough to buy Fox, so I wouldn't put it past them.

    • @katherinealvarez9216
      @katherinealvarez9216 2 роки тому +15

      Everyone will be courting the talent when this goes up in flames.
      Disney has the security.
      Amazon prime has cash.
      And Netflix is desperate.
      Even peacock will be like "I'm not popular but I will let you do things that make us both blush."

    • @Loremastrful
      @Loremastrful 2 роки тому +1

      Think a Chinese company like the one that owns AMC theaters.

    • @vernonhampton5863
      @vernonhampton5863 2 роки тому

      @@Dynamo_06 I hope not.

  • @patrickblanchette4337
    @patrickblanchette4337 2 роки тому +9

    16:48 I’m glad you’re humble enough to realize you were being way too generous with Ezra Miller’s possible innocence in your previous videos.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому +2

      I had the same hope but that's long since turned to ash for me too.

    • @mabusestestament
      @mabusestestament 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, Bob must be sure he's safe to criticize Ezra Miller now. It has been for quite a while of course, but I mean even in Bob's circles.
      Now people in the reactions don't have to keep up appearences anymore either as was done with the last video.
      I don't blame Zack Snyder though, how could he know that he not only cast a borderline and hystrionic violent woman with Amber Heard, but with Ezra "Kevin" Miller a sociopath who is on track to become the next Charles Manson 😄

  • @Fuloqwam
    @Fuloqwam 2 роки тому +18

    Hearing Bob say "Honey Boo Boo" is satisfying in a way I can't really put my finger on

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 2 роки тому +2

      'Honey Boo Boo' is one thing I I will hold against David Zaslav for.

  • @thetaarakian
    @thetaarakian 2 роки тому +3

    I thought the same thing when I heard about all the cuts. "Wait Discovery Channel? Isn't that all just Honey Boo Boo and Naked and Afraid now? THIS is who's in charge of all of this amazing IP? Yikes"

  • @calumbishop7082
    @calumbishop7082 2 роки тому +3

    Did you know that DC is having a Crisis event right now.
    ---
    The irony is that applies to both comics and real life.

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 роки тому +68

    As a DC fan I'm pretty much resigned to being mad for the rest of my life. Some of the comic runs will be good for a while until they screw the continuity again.
    I'm gonna take the good projects as isolated things and try not to let the downward crash of everything else kill me

    • @ZoanBlade90
      @ZoanBlade90 2 роки тому +7

      Want to take a more absurdist approach? "One must imagine Sisyphus happy."

    • @lazaroskarmaniolas7410
      @lazaroskarmaniolas7410 2 роки тому +7

      @@ZoanBlade90 Well,. Supergiant's Sisyphus looked pretty happy! XD

    • @draco84oz
      @draco84oz 2 роки тому +2

      Shazam 2 looks ok, and I'm kinda hopeful about Black Adam. 😀

    • @ZoanBlade90
      @ZoanBlade90 2 роки тому

      @@draco84oz Me too. 😄

    • @TheTrekkie42
      @TheTrekkie42 2 роки тому +4

      This is why I only buy trades nowadays.
      You really won’t know if a comic story is good until it ends.

  • @jean-philippedoyon9904
    @jean-philippedoyon9904 2 роки тому +7

    The Honey Booboo guy...never a best descriptive for that slime David Zaslaz...He's pretty much the Bobby Kotick of television too ! Thank you MovieBob, i needed that today !! :)

  • @SidheKnight
    @SidheKnight 2 роки тому +21

    Congratulations Bob!
    I've been following you for a little more than a decade and I hope to keep doing it for years to come.

  • @APassingCloud_
    @APassingCloud_ 2 роки тому +4

    At some point my brain started replacing "woke" with "educated" and all this stuff got a lot more funny.

  • @dimensionzone8048
    @dimensionzone8048 2 роки тому +12

    I could shake your hand for this Moviebob. You said it perfectly espeically at the end 👏
    And happy 450th episode. Here's to all the years you been hear and many more

  • @jiado6893
    @jiado6893 2 роки тому +3

    It’s cool that the video representing a massive weight off your shoulders is about this news that just capstones several plagues on our media, your job, and the era we live in. And coincidentally, it’s ALSO this giant capstone! It’s like it was all fated. This entire episode could serve as a basis for a whole video essay. We are living through god-damn interesting times, and I feel privileged to have been able to hear you, Bob.

  • @MilesVideos10000
    @MilesVideos10000 2 роки тому +58

    This was cathartic in a lot of ways. I can't wait to see what the Big Picture brings in the future.

  • @darthchalupa2485
    @darthchalupa2485 2 роки тому +13

    Congrats on 450 Bob! Glad the Flashpoint episode is finally out and we can hopefully we can move forward without that particular sword hanging over your head. Here's to another 450!

  • @AwkwardGMCorbin
    @AwkwardGMCorbin 2 роки тому +4

    It’s always difficult talking about these Far Right Geek commentators. Because they make a business on hypothetical “cancel culture” and then claim victory when it doesn’t happen, here is an example:
    “Since Female Thor we will never see Chris Hemsworth as Thor“
    Then they announce Chris Hemsworth will be in the next Avengers movie and they’ll say “See we won against wokeness”.
    Even though it has nothing to do with them.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому +3

      There's a reason I call them a cult.

    • @Carabas72
      @Carabas72 2 роки тому +4

      @@johnathonhaney8291
      It's Qanon for geeks.

  • @MarkTyger
    @MarkTyger 2 роки тому +5

    Stellar work as always Bob. Glad you can finally put this one behind you. Looking forward to the next 450 episodes of consistently the best written and reasoned genre film analysis on the Internet. Keep up the good fight, Bob. I'm here for it!

  • @juliagoodwin9510
    @juliagoodwin9510 2 роки тому +9

    I'm honestly sick of media executive BS, and whiny idiots on the internet but there's nothing we can do about it other than sit and stew in our rage, it seems.
    (Also, happy 450th episode Bob!)

  • @BlackDragonUSMC
    @BlackDragonUSMC 2 роки тому +7

    Now you can get back to what's really important; *Really That Good - Lord of the Rings Extended Trilogy*.

    • @HobGungan
      @HobGungan 2 роки тому +2

      The "don't even ask" tease for that was still one of the best moments in Really That Good

    • @shikatsu
      @shikatsu 2 роки тому +3

      @@HobGungan "Thooose are three movies...but maybe..."

  • @Loremastrful
    @Loremastrful 2 роки тому +70

    Congratulations!
    Discovery+ - Honestly, we've been through this a couple of times before. When MTV went all in on reality programming and basically vanished from cable. Again with Cartoon Network ditching animation for game shows. That nearly sunk the whole animation department if not for Adventure Time and Steven Universe. I give it 18 months. As 2025 rolls around, Zaslav will be looking to sell, but runs into the same problem. No buyers. Anyone with that money has stake in Disney or QuestStar or something somewhere else. And it has too much IP to sell it at bargain basement prices which is how he picked it up because AT&T got sticker shock. (And galaxy-brain move AT&T. You spend ten years capturing agencies and breaking regulations and you never asked if you might be good at the thing you want so badly. I'm sure there's a Casino clip that could illustrate that.) Zaslav will get his time to pretend he's a big shot studio head. Get bored with it and sell it for parts with the biggest chunks going to some Chinese firm. (If the evergardens don't tank their balance sheets)
    The one good thing that can come out of it is restructuring WB. WB is a hoarder's nest of IP and studios that keep getting acquired but can't bring themselves to close or combine into other departments. While cancelling the CW, TBS and TNT shows seemed overkill. Why couldn't all of this be folded into ONE TNT with the remaining shows? Instead of two channels cycling through Family Guy and American Dad on the weekdays and Harry Potter and MCU movies on the weekends.
    I'm sorry folks who could have used that break won't get it. Yeah they got paid, but this was shot in a industry where you have to scrap and bleed just to get one and you aren't guaranteed another. I can only respond to such cruel indifference with sympathy. I hope everyone involve lands on the feet and hopefully in a better spot.

    • @kylebookout1789
      @kylebookout1789 2 роки тому +1

      Great comment!

    • @dcworld4349
      @dcworld4349 2 роки тому +5

      @@kylebookout1789 Maybe I am completely wrong, but I do feel, him scooping up Alan Horn shows intent that he might end up failing but that Zaslav does want WB and more importantly DC to succeed and be able to give the audience both the Marvel experience of a connected universe. But do something Marvel will never do, which is creating things like The Batman or Joker (not a die hard fan of the movie like so many seems to be, but I like that they did dare take a risk on it, hoping Joker 2 will be more up my alley).
      Obviously the 10 year plan thing could end up failing if they don't get the right people for the job, Berlanti is the only person I can think of that should get the position of being their Feige. He might not always have been able to have the shows be consitently past the first 3-4 seasons, but considering the amount of money he had to work with. The constant restriction on characters, where he would actually trick WB into letting him use certain characters by using characters with ties to other characters making WB cave in. Crisis on Infinite Earths might have been a mess, although partly because he at that point from all account had checked out and had lost his nr 2 after Kreisberg turned out to be a creep. So their complete universe bible was dead since the new people on Flash was not able to do as good of a job as Kreisberg and season 6 onwards have been a dumpster fire. Last time Berlanti actually truly worked on a project was Crisis on Earth X, which is a better Justice League movie, on 10 times smaller budget than the actual Justice League movie that came out the same week.
      Give him the Feige role with zero restrictions and as someone who understands the business, loves the characters and has proven he can make D-list characters more famous than many A-list characters. I'd love to see what he could do with the key to the entire toy box.
      If they were smart they would also get Greg Weismann to help them create a complete story bible. He really knows how to juggle everything from street level characters to literal god characters and make it feel equally important.

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 2 роки тому +1

      If Cartoon Network never hired Stewart Snyder after the 'Aqua Teen'/Boston fiasco, or if the writer's strike never happened, we never would've had to endure the dreaded CN Real period, or that awful 'Re-Animated/Out Of Jimmy's Head' crap would never have been green lit. Also, if Cartoon Network had shows that weren't on either side of the extremes as 'Teen Titans Go', or 'Steven Universe', there wouldn't be this huge divide amongst viewers.

    • @Grizabeebles
      @Grizabeebles 2 роки тому +9

      @@Launchpad05 -- The reason the writer's strike happened is because studios wanted to cut writers out of the profits of streaming. The same way they did with VHS and DVD sales.
      It still comes back to the major studios being greedy.

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 2 роки тому +3

      @@Grizabeebles Just like networks execs want to go all in on reality television to avoid having to finance cartoons, or scripted shows. Again, studios, and networks being greedy.

  • @dekopuma
    @dekopuma 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for pointing out the insane hypocrisy of the snydercut drones.

    • @SavageBroadcast
      @SavageBroadcast 2 роки тому

      And it turns out the new management didn't like those movies either, so the bros who were cheering Zaslav on just got screwed.

  • @shindean
    @shindean 2 роки тому +14

    Glad to watch this Bob! What a wonderful way to put this to rest and celebrate a great series. Congratulations.

  • @chrischris-gs2vt
    @chrischris-gs2vt 2 роки тому +6

    How can they complain about woke material when DC's Legends of Tomarrow was hands down the best content of the Arrowverse and a contender for some of the best DC content period?

    • @ligtningdog6399
      @ligtningdog6399 2 роки тому +4

      They are just clout chasing. A broadcast tv series doesn't get nearly as much attention as a big-budget movie.

    • @Metaphysician2
      @Metaphysician2 2 роки тому +1

      I suspect the people complaining about DC being "too woke" probably *hate* Legends for being too light hearted, rather than being grimdark edgewood bait.

  • @ryanruttan7480
    @ryanruttan7480 2 роки тому +5

    The idiots who like the Snyderverse are exactly the same people who would have loved Honey Booboo, so they're probably happy as punch.

    • @mabusestestament
      @mabusestestament 2 роки тому

      It's actually mostly women who are the target audience for those reality shows.

  • @dwc1964
    @dwc1964 2 роки тому +2

    this feels like a cutting of the Gordian knot that you've been struggling far too long and too hard to untangle - well done

  • @kanojo1969
    @kanojo1969 2 роки тому +9

    I could watch one of these every single day. I think Bob would just burst into flames at the thought. Great rant.

  • @johnathonhaney8291
    @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому +8

    9:45 Gods, do I feel that one. I have been screaming in vain for months that in the ongoing WB/DC trainwreck, THERE ARE NO GOOD GUYS.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 2 роки тому +1

      Nah. It's just that what "good guys" there are, they're powerless victims.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому

      @@christopherb501 In that category, I would only put Ray Fisher. The guys at the top or near it? Nuh uh, not a one.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 2 роки тому

      @@johnathonhaney8291 The people involved with the cancelled movies don't count?

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому

      @@christopherb501 Did you not hear me? I said "at the top or near it", which basically covers everyone on the executive level and, sorry to say, Snyder too. Your "hopeless victims" are just that and nothing more..."good guys" implies that they ever fought or even had a chance to. Snyder's way of "fighting back" made him just as bad.

  • @AgtPaper665
    @AgtPaper665 2 роки тому +4

    Anyone shocked that these people falling in line behind "Honey Boo-Boo Guy" are acting so dumb and hypocritical? Aren't those kinds of people the same kinds of people who made the over-edited reality garbage so popular on TLC, Discovery, and History in the first place? Maybe I can thank him for Forged in Fire, but that seems like not enough benefit to cost ratio.

    • @danielramsey6141
      @danielramsey6141 2 роки тому +1

      Ain’t That the Truth! At least “Forged in Fire” was actually a solid idea when we wanted abit more blood and sport to go with the history channel.
      But Jesus, this is just depressing.

  • @deathsyth8888
    @deathsyth8888 2 роки тому +6

    Saying that WB is poorly managed and actively tries to rush, tank and ruin almost any project and IP it has is an astounding understatement.

  • @arvidp.247
    @arvidp.247 2 роки тому +3

    So basically Disney/Marvel got rid of their right-wing executive (what was his name again?) to finally put more diversity in the MCU, while Warner/DC does the opposite and puts a right-wing executive in charge to take out the diversity. Cut in Tony Stark saying "Not a great plan."

  • @rbarghouti
    @rbarghouti 2 роки тому +1

    You're back! I'm happy to see you. Thanks for getting through a hard year.

  • @chibiktsn3
    @chibiktsn3 2 роки тому +3

    Some of those “culture war” videos inflicted psychic damage upon me. Love this and all of your videos, happy as always to have someone with insight into the industry who’s passionate while still rational in his critique.

  • @ANIpJs
    @ANIpJs 2 роки тому +9

    Holy shit I needed to see this. I just had my Twitter account suspended by these Snyder troll, specifically one of the people you showed in this video.
    This assholes made me. A life long DC reader. Not care about DC anymore.

    • @esimonsays14
      @esimonsays14 2 роки тому +1

      Which one? That really sucks, regardless.

  • @ohstalon06
    @ohstalon06 2 роки тому +19

    Those final 5 minutes.
    Utter perfection. We missed you on this.

  • @felis1977
    @felis1977 2 роки тому +2

    Whoa! I hope you got all that out of your system :) Good thing I like you and your work because for a hot second there I was close to turning the video off. It's not the content (I agree with everything you said) but the delivery. But, hey, I get it. It must be extremely frustrating to waste that much work and time. One has to vent somehow :)
    Leaving all that unpleasantness behind I hope to hear your thoughts on the new Marvel announcements or maybe more "Comics are Weird" episodes. Something to distract me from the effin 2020's ;)

  • @plufim
    @plufim 2 роки тому +4

    Glad you finally pulled the trigger and published, but my gosh it'll probably days before something else happens.

  • @TheTrekkie42
    @TheTrekkie42 2 роки тому +2

    That was one of the most triumphant and relieved “I’m Bob and that’s the big picture” endings you’ve ever done.

  • @Aphoboth
    @Aphoboth 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks for all these years, Bob, you've shaped and nourished my liking and understanding of all things comics and movies, So thank you, here's to a thousand more. Cheers

  • @davidv4018
    @davidv4018 2 роки тому +1

    Congratulations on the 450 episodes! I guess i watched, at least once, 450 episodes of this series.

  • @adams3627
    @adams3627 2 роки тому +8

    Zaslav is the guy responsible for a generation of reality tv "stars" who I really hope haven't all died of drug overdoses while we weren't looking.

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 2 роки тому

      Just like how Ryan Seacrest was responsible for destroying music with 'American Idol', and shoving The Kardashians down our throats.

    • @snowdenwyatt6276
      @snowdenwyatt6276 2 роки тому +2

      @@Launchpad05 Isn't Seacrest just the host? Probably more on point to blame Simon Cowell. He didn't create the UK show (Pop Idol) that American Idol is based on but he took his judging experience from those two shows and started both the X-Factor and ...Got Talent series. Simon Fuller is the person to blame for the Idol shows.

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 2 роки тому

      @@snowdenwyatt6276 If there's one thing I blame Seacrest for, it's for giving The Kardashians their stupid reality shows.

  • @djkangal
    @djkangal 2 роки тому +1

    Episode 450 is every reason why you're the only commentator I listen to.

  • @TimOLearyOnline
    @TimOLearyOnline 2 роки тому +16

    Not showing the handles of the people shit-tweeting proves that Bob has a level of grace I can only hope to one day achieve.

    • @madsgrams2069
      @madsgrams2069 2 роки тому +2

      Honestly...he should have. They deserve no such consideration. But Bob is a gentleman through and through. Props to him...I could never have such levels of restraint in regards to such humongous p1llocks, I admit it.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому

      @@madsgrams2069 The right thing to do is rarely as easy as it sounds. That's why so few people do it.

  • @Optimegatrongodzilla
    @Optimegatrongodzilla 2 роки тому +1

    Happy 450 episodes of "The Big Picture", Bob! I've watched & enjoyed a lot of the episodes where you go over old movies, old TV series, and convoluted superhero comic book history. I've also watched & enjoyed multiple episodes of "Really That Good". I would love it if you did an addendum to the "Really That Good" episode on "Superman"[1978](AKA "Superman: The Movie") in which you go over the 3 cuts of the movie and tells us which one is your favorite.

  • @Ellanion
    @Ellanion 2 роки тому +4

    A righteous smack down bringing catharsis. Love you ❤️

  • @Wintermute01001
    @Wintermute01001 2 роки тому +2

    I'd forgotten about the "WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO OUR CULTURE THAN JOKER?!" guy😄

  • @Dracosfire14
    @Dracosfire14 2 роки тому +6

    It's such a shame about Batgirl, for a lot of reasons, but also that costume is amazing

    • @Launchpad05
      @Launchpad05 2 роки тому +1

      I would've preferred A better costume, and A ginger Batgirl.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 2 роки тому +4

      @@Launchpad05 Nothing about Batgirl requires her to be white redhead. The only reason Barbara Gordon is a white redhead is because she debuted in the 1960s.

  • @L337P1R4735
    @L337P1R4735 2 роки тому +1

    Congratulations on 450 Bob!

  • @woogha
    @woogha 2 роки тому +5

    Through the ups and downs we've all stuck around and are all so proud of you for making it this far. Keep up the good work.

  • @adfury
    @adfury 2 роки тому +33

    Damn Bob. really wish someone gave you 30 mins a week on a progressive network.
    I dig your holistic take on media.

    • @paulpeak1512
      @paulpeak1512 2 роки тому +7

      Such a network would have to exist first.

  • @katherinealvarez9216
    @katherinealvarez9216 2 роки тому +6

    Okay, but I have to know: who else was thinking of Ron Perelman and Ike Perlmutter as this was all going down?

  • @stwenty5758
    @stwenty5758 2 роки тому +1

    Holy crap, Bob. That was a hell of a rant even by your standards! Kudos, for certain, and I hope your stress levels go down a bit. I'll be here for the next one, just like I have been since the series originally started on The Escapist.

  • @javilorenzana
    @javilorenzana 2 роки тому +11

    Kudos, Bob. You're a great man among whinny children. You're actually telling it like it is - which involves a lot of actual work, preparation, context, and perspective. Love your stuff. Keep at it.

    • @mabusestestament
      @mabusestestament 2 роки тому +4

      Well... Bob himself often is a whinny child too

    • @madsgrams2069
      @madsgrams2069 2 роки тому +4

      @@mabusestestament LOl...the simple fact that he blurred the chuds' user-handles shows he has more maturity than all of them put together.

    • @mabusestestament
      @mabusestestament 2 роки тому

      @Mads
      Well, that's not saying much 😏

  • @vexorian
    @vexorian 2 роки тому +2

    godamnit Bob, are you making me binge News Radio?? Seriously? How dare you.

  • @johnathonhaney8291
    @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому +3

    3:31 Well, I care that YOU still care, Mr. Chipman. It's a testament to your refusal to compromise your standards for short-term gain that has made this episode worth the wait.

  • @Mrtoen6
    @Mrtoen6 2 роки тому +2

    I don't know if you'll read this but I don't think I've ever commented before.
    Have been following all your great stuff for over ten years now and I'm planning on keeping on doing so for many years.
    Life is tough. I hope you'll be okay.
    Thanks for everything Bob.

  • @zakbeveridge7461
    @zakbeveridge7461 2 роки тому +6

    bob:for the last time I'm telling you people WB CEOs dont care about the synderverse
    synder-fandom:burn him

    • @madsgrams2069
      @madsgrams2069 2 роки тому

      I mean...the "Snyderverse" was a financial train-wreck. Do these people not know that corporate bottom feeders ONLY care about THE BOTTOM LINE and NOTHING ELSE????

  • @Caernath
    @Caernath 2 роки тому +1

    "Bob, I applaud that you're moving forward -
    * audience groans from the pun *
    "- and that you stop running in place."
    * audience groans again *

  • @robertpaige4505
    @robertpaige4505 2 роки тому +4

    Really, this has the AOL/Time Warner merger written all over it. And I say that as a pro wrestling fan who watched with shadenfraude as everything they tried to replace WCW Nitro with crashed and burned.

  • @turtle_combat
    @turtle_combat 2 роки тому +2

    Sometimes you just gotta finish digesting all the junk you've taken in, leave a rancid diarrhea dump somewhere, and go home and eat something else.

  • @arturoreyes2119
    @arturoreyes2119 2 роки тому +3

    so my take-away from this is that calling fandoms a bunch of clowns is a disservice to clowns

  • @PsyrenXY
    @PsyrenXY 2 роки тому +3

    This is brilliant. And I suspected the Zaslav guy was a snake-oil huckster but you nailed it.

  • @caberwikijack
    @caberwikijack 2 роки тому +4

    Did they miss the part where Zaslav wants to axe all of Warner/Discovery's scripted media? Like, all of it?

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому +1

      Of course...willful ignorance is this crowd's calling card.

  • @87392v
    @87392v 2 роки тому +1

    A good vent is purifying. Detaching oneself from corporate machinations is the only path to inner peace.

  • @mesektet5776
    @mesektet5776 2 роки тому +10

    I mean, we all knew this as of the final Star Wars movie. They went back on everything, catered to the culture warriors; And The culture warriors still hated it, but were laughing that the fans of the previous one couldn’t have the movie they were set up for.
    The studio appealed to the culture warriors, and the culture warriors went “lol your movie still sucks, but now the SJWs hate you too!”
    They are troll poser fans. We need another example of ignoring them?

    • @jadedheartsz
      @jadedheartsz 2 роки тому

      No they did not cater to those losers, that's a bunch of bullshit. Bob himself said ROS didn't do that.

  • @seanwilkinson7431
    @seanwilkinson7431 2 роки тому +2

    The next logical step is for Disney to buy Warner Bros (Disney+ had a Discovery/Hulu bundle at one point) so Phase Six turns into Marvel vs. DC and the whole thing ends with an Amalgam movie.

  • @hawaiidkw1
    @hawaiidkw1 2 роки тому +3

    Congrats on the nice big round number, Bob! 😀
    Mainly what I can't wrap my head around about the whole Zaslav situation is how a raging misogynist (anyone familiar with 19 Lives And Counting wasn't surprised by how little of a crap he gave about Batgirl) with outrageously regressive and, might I add, _really freaking stupid_ attitudes regarding animation and episodic TV in general was allowed to become the head of a major film studio in the first place. I thought we were _done_ with the whole giving eye-gouging amounts of wealth and power to the biggest piles of crap on the planet thing. Here's the the thing you gotta understand: Whenever you put a morally bankrupt scumbag in charge, EVERYONE ELSE loses, and that's exactly what happening here. Actors, writers, directors, effects crew, and everyone around them got shafted and are going to worry bigtime about their futures, viewers miss out on highly-anticipated releases, the corporates who put the man into power in the first place are going to be under an entire fort's worth of guns, and the shareholders are going to get increasingly vocal about how the company's finances are tanking harder than Bitcoin. Pretty much the only ones celebrating are the eternally insufferable Synderbros... at least until Zaslav says "Vhat eez deez 'Sah-nai-dah-vuhzz'?" and absolute jack-all continues to happen on that front.
    It's a damned pathetic state of affairs, and all because a group of hopelessly out-of-touch men who refuse to accept that in the year two thousand and twenty-two, "Get woke, go broke" is missing an "or". And boy, if you thought Disney/Marvel was taking a boot to your butts before, get ready, because they're about to upgrade to a freight train. (And no, I'm not happy about this.)

  • @MegamiShin
    @MegamiShin 2 роки тому +1

    I had no clue about this debacle. I'm glad I stayed off social media, but grateful that MBob discussed it as well as him getting to 450 episodes!

  • @johnathonhaney8291
    @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому +9

    Mr. Chipman...thank you so much for giving voice to my disgust for the whole WB/DC clustereff. And congratulations on both your 450th episode and landing your white whale of this topic.

  • @Librariansaysook
    @Librariansaysook 2 роки тому +4

    So I know nothing about Movie Studio Math, but I gotta imagine that if permanently shelving complete or almost complete movies that weren’t looking to recoup their costs for tax purposes was a good idea, it would happen a lot more often

  • @GeneFJacket
    @GeneFJacket 2 роки тому +46

    Right there with ya, Bob. I was pretty upset about Batgirl for a few days, but as more and more came out about Zas, and I learned more about who he was and what kind of company he ran, it became readily apparent that Batgirl (and Scoob) was just the first causality of this guys ineptitude, and there will be many, many more. We're going to have to watch possibly the most historic studio, one that's a CENTURY old, be absolutely gutted by one truly shitty guy who has no business being in this business, much less in the position he holds. It's infuriating, but there's literally nothing we can do, so fuck it. Hope for the best, but expect the worst.

    • @jdlucree
      @jdlucree 2 роки тому +3

      its sears all over again

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому

      @@jdlucree And Fox.

    • @jadedheartsz
      @jadedheartsz 2 роки тому +3

      the sad part is I was initially hopefully for the Discovery merger as I thought it meant we'd finally see long forgotten Discovery Kids shows like Darcy's Wild Life FINALLY get an official release on streaming but no such luck.

    • @AllPwrflSteve
      @AllPwrflSteve 2 роки тому

      The movies never came out so how do we know it was a bad decision to cancel them. Also who the fuck was clamouring for a Scoob 2.

    • @jadedheartsz
      @jadedheartsz 2 роки тому

      @@AllPwrflSteve because it's a shitty way to treat the cast and crew and I for one was looking forward to Holiday Haunt.

  • @claudelarose8831
    @claudelarose8831 2 роки тому +1

    Congratulations on the 450th episode of the Big Picture!!

  • @michaelreindel6975
    @michaelreindel6975 2 роки тому +3

    Damn, I was starting to wonder why any director (or actor) would even work with WB now… but now I realize the new guy in charge probably doesn’t even give a $#!+. Honey Boo Boo? Sarah Palin? The Duggars? FFS. 🤮

  • @martinanaya6145
    @martinanaya6145 2 роки тому +2

    Bob, you've stripped me of what little innocent exuberance I may have thought I still had for a DCEU future. Thank you, cause I'd have hated bein disappointed yet again.