How to Convert Buggy Wheels to Hard Rubber Tires | Engels Coach Shop
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- Опубліковано 30 січ 2020
- Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles often involves converting old wheels that have iron tires to hard rubber tires. Although this is an age old design, many original buggy wheels were built with steel tires, intended to drive on dirt roads, but modern paved roads encourage these wheels to be converted to hard rubber tires. This is the process to accomplish that task.
Many of you are interested in the tire bolts and rivets I use in my videos. Since I use a large number of these, I do keep them in stock. An email to dave@engelscoachshop.com will get you a list of available sizes and pricing.
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Dave is a real master at making his videos without the need for much narration, telling a story without words is a real skill. Watch for the subtle cues such as tuning the wires with a pluck from a fingernail to show they were at the same tension, feeling the braised wires to show they were cool enough to touch and allow the next stage to proceed, and many more. Many other UA-cam 'makers' could learn a lot by watching Dave's videos. I can only imagine the time that go into editing these fine documentaries to make them appear seamless...
It just dawned on me that though I comment on a lot of folks videos, yours are the only ones where I address you as Mister Engle as in adding the Mister and using your surname. Granted that some You tubers are my elders but there is something about you that forces me to not be so bold as to call you Dave. To me, because of too many things to list, you will always be Mister Engle. A pathetic phrase when another uses it, but you do make America great. "Lead, follow or get out of the way". You are a leader, a mentor and a real American.
It is pleasing to watch someone brazing who actually knows how to adjust the torch flame. I see so many videos of people brazing with a neutral flame instead of a carbonizing flame. Then they wonder why they have gas pockets in their braze.
Just joined- your videos have help me restoring some steel and wooden wheels on antique farm equipment- watching a Master at work is wonderful ( as a Master Machine Repairman I appreciate skilled craftsmen) I love you videos
the view at the beginning and end were great. you have some lovely country. really enjoyed watching the process of installing the rubber tires.
As always I'm totally amazed at your knowledge and craftsmanship. Again thanks for sharing your time and talents!KANSAS
Even if I watched all your videos, with the rubber tire setup - and I am clear and fully understand the process - I do not stop being mesmerized, each and every time you post this operation. The same state of being, I had it many years ago - back in the 80`, in my first payed job, when I was working on a dredging vessel, of large capacity. In that morning - the whole chain of 56 buckets (each weighing 2 metric tons) , was dropped on the bottom of the bay, at 19 m (60 feet) deep. It was for me ...an impossible puzzle to solve, but under my eyes and including my anticipation, that huge pile of cast iron - lying on the bottom of the water - was brought back to the machine - of course: using huge steel ropes, a large floating crane and very powerful winches - with kind of the same process and work system that you apply at work on setup rubber tires
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Thanks for the video!
Master Engel - many thanks once again for two excellent and informative videos! This time, I saw something that I'd thought I'd seen a few times before with other videos, but it was welcomed this time as well. I caught sight of you smiling as you worked with the tire mounting machine! It wasn't some goofy grin - just the fleeting knowing smile of a great craftsman going about his tasks. Quite satisfying to see from time to time!
Nice braze on those small wires. Easy to burn them up but as usual you made it look like there was nothing to it. Hats off to you sir.
I did not realize that you'd make new feloes to compensate for the extra thickness of the rubber tire and iron channel. I just figured the wheel would just be a little larger. Great video!
Thank you, Dave, for this second video. This makes the operation of the machine much clearer. I really struggled when I was trying to narrate the video to another resident.
4:11 is how my day goes. Busy, some hot project in your hands that needs concentration and the blasted phone rings.
I'm so glad people like you post this kind of stuff. Now our young ones can see not everything has to be binned after 3 months of use, some stuff is build to last ;) and can be repaired
instead of replaced.
Btw thats some ingenious tool, if only by its simplicity, to tighten and solder thoose wires.
It's good that two videos of this have been shown...
So you can interpret what's actually going on in the process...🇬🇧🙂
Thanks angle. Love watching you doing your work mostly because it involves a bit of everything
Nice work, as always. I bet you're glad the borax wagon didn't have rubber types :-))
Wonder how many buggy wheel recapping shops there are around the world. It is always a joy watching a pro do it right. Thank you very much.
After watching so many of the borax wagon wheels being made, these buggy wheels look downright dainty!
I never thought that I would see buggy wheel skid marks! Only in Mr. Engel's shop!
Thanks Dave for showing how you were able to keep the wheels the same height before installing the rubber tires on the wheels. It’s always a great learning experience watching your channel. Thanks for sharing with us.
love the goth cravat (or whatever it is) in this one
You are a fine fellow to change the fellows to the correct height...
*You must have previously measured the width of the outside wheel felloe holes so the interior felloe "tie-irons" plates will accept the bolt heads . . . AND have the practiced eye and hand-skill (that no one recognizes) to drill correctly so it all works . . . Wow!*
Glad to see you finally boughta proper dust collector!
The mystery of how rubber goes on the fellows remains. Have watched you do it, but still trying to figure out how it was figured out how to do it. Am a student of the evolution of complicated machines and processes.
Pockets MacCartney From when engineers actually knew how to imagine something and figure stuff out. Not rely on computers to give them inspiration. Dang, that was harsh!
Compressing the rubber and brazing the wires together, then let the rubber creep back over the exposed wire, while still have a slight overreach on the rubber to keep it pressed together.
@@MidnightAmratha : Yes, indeed. It's the device he devised that I marvel over. I want to see the 19th century English machinery too.
Looks like a new air filter on the vacuum dust collector! Looks good.
Hi, the Second time today:
Thank you for giving two shows the same day. More of very good information and how the world traveled over a hundred years ago. It still amazes me how the spokes always fit the rim.
Thank You for sharing
2 videos from David, even more added bonus!
Thanks, Dave!
steve
Thanks for the January Double!!! I hope you're keeping warm!! :-)
A great upgrade to accommodate to a modern road surface, by a real craftsman.
Again, your attention to detail is amazing. Aligning the square nuts, the talcum powder on the rubber joint--Excellent!
Mark Heilmann what purpose does the talcum powder serve?
A very interesting process .
Keeping thing smooth were the rubber meets the road lol.
Have a good day thank you two video's in one day.
Хорошая работа.
I love watching you work your a master at your trade
Fascinating process from start to finish. Thank you sir.
What I find amazing is that so much of your hardware for these wheels are still available today.
With all these rubber tire installs you're doing, someone's going to come into the shop and think some hooligan's been doing burnouts!
красивая работа. Мастеру респект !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think I just saw Bryce Canyon!!
Wonderful tool to tension the steel bands in the tire.
Hello, Dave. Fascinating, thanks so much for the instruction. I was actually hoping to find from you another Hebrew lesson this morning, but a lesson on circumcising spokes and adding rubber tread was sufficient.
i admire your attention to details, (orientation of fasteners) and everything, you obviously take extreme pride in your work as you should! if i were only young again i would have truly liked to have been taught by you your skills. did you make all the specialty tools and machines, like the rubber tire installer for example?
Wow Dave, two episodes in one week.
Funny how our ideas change in life. I well remember when I would come across old square nuts in my old bolt box I would throw them away as being obsolete. Now I regret it and search the internet to buy them to use rebuilding old stuff.
I can remember going to the hardware store,
with my father, and getting "stove bolts."
Heads and nuts were both square cut. I think
I'm getting old! (I'd KILL for one of those old
wood burning kitchen stoves, now.)
steve
My Dad would refer to the 'square nuts' as BURRS..... Get me a bolt and a burr..... :-)
Thanks for grat movie !
Excellent
A practiced hand at the brazing, you make it look simple!
Speedy Hammer, Spotted.
I was wondering how you you were going to close that gap in the rubber where the wire was welded...simple enough. Thanks for making these videos!
Jack Duncan
Which he could only do because the rubber was cut about 4 inches overlapping. That gives enough pressure to close the gap.
Beautiful work , like the new Dust collector
Once again, thanks for showing!
Great video! Thanks! Very nice brazing on the reinforcement wires.
Just really appreciate your work! Thank you
That was super cool! Now you need to show us how you replace the tire when it wears out. Did you build the tire machine yourself? It looks kind of shop made. Who would have thunk it? Amazing!
Great video.
I just love watching you do these type of conversions to old buggy wheels as you have done a few vlogs on it take care 😀
Nice job.
Fascinating!
Thanks again, stay safe
Brilliant!
Interesting process. Thanks for sharing with everyone.
love every video you make...…… great job
A true art and You are the Master !
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Well done indeed.
Thanks for the video.
magique... bravo...excellent travail
Any comment I could make would be guilding the lily . Great video 👍🇬🇧
amazing
Awesome
You got a dust collector 👍
Good for your health
Belo trabalho parabéns
wow,,,# impressed....i am a jack of most trades and master of several.......thoroughly enjoyed watching
Thanks for the close up on the brazing. I was thinking you butt welded them or something.
Lovely work, i wish that i had someone around here that did this. My dos á dos neads rubber tires -_-
I did a double-take there whilst going through the roller! The handle was still resting in middle of the rollers! :)
There was always question in my mind. How!? Thanks for answer.
Well, I've always wondered how those rubber tyres were held on to the rims, now I know!
From the 5:16 you round over the inside edges of the new fellows, is this primarily an aesthetic thing or does removing the sharp edge of the inside diameter of the fellows make it less likely to crack or break/
Love the videos and the craftsmanship you display, thank you for taking us along for the ride!
Cheers from Tokyo!
Similar technique to a Penny Farthing wheel, except the tyre is just slid over the exposed wire join by hand. I guess they don't have quite so much friction or tension to combat.
What is the advantage 0f brass over wire to join the rods in the rubber tires? Thank you , love your videos. Bill Janzen
Good job they didn't want Rubber tyres on the Borax Wagon!!! LOL!
Wow, you just keep amazing me.
That wire puller is an amazingly clever and specialized machine! And your attention to detail and patience with repetitive tasks is always an inspiration and an example to me (how many hundreds of perfectly rounded over felloe-edges at the spoke ends were there on just that one set of wheels?!) Thanks, as always, for sharing your work with us.
Bravo 🙋♂️❤🤝respekt ❤
Please tell us more about that machine you used to tighten up the steel inside the hard rubber tires! Is that something you fabricated? Had fabricated? Ordered from Sears & Roebuck? Very cool!
Ding ding ding.....
It just occurred to me where the name “Longfellow” comes from!
Lol
Very enjoyable to watch and I feel like I learn something new every episode. What are the two black tabs for that you added on the inside when bolting down the steel rim?
@@Warped65er Oh yeah, didn't think about that!
Almost missed the second video. Good questions about the effort to eliminate 2+” height increase. Brake alignment? Clearance for turning? In any event, I am perpetually amazed at the sophistication of century old techniques and technology. How did anyone ever think of wire inserts? And the bounce technique for closing the gap in the tire?
Do you have a video on the machine you built for installing the rubber on the rims?
Hi Dave, thanks for another interesting video, what type of wire is put inside the tyre,? It sounded good stuff when you cut it, just curious! , great craftsmanship as usual, you make it look so easy. Looking forward to the next one, Best wishes to you and your's, Stuart.uk.
Wonderful bandana. Great craftsman. Great videos. Always look for the latest video.
Thank you again for showing us how it was done "back in the day" as well as now a days. Did you re-use the spokes and just shorten them and then tenoned the end or are those all new spokes?
Would some cable pulling lubricant between the rubber and steel before things are tightened help with closing the gap? I really enjoy these videos, great content and production work.
What are the fasteners called that hold the steel channel to the felowes? 1/4" NC at one end and spiral groves/ribs at the head? Outstanding workmanship as always. I suppose the slight difference in diameter if not accounted for would mess up the ABS.
Hi Dave At the risk of duplicating a complement given by others I would like to mention how much I appreciate the care and attention to detail shown when you "time" or clock the retaining nut on the felloes! One question: would a bit of threadlocker on the threads be of any use in case the nuts have a tendency to loosen over time? regards as always vic
When you make the steel rim, how much smaller is it than the wood rim? That's an interesting tool you use to measure the wood rim and the steel. Interesting and educational as always. Thank you for sharing.
@@EngelsCoachShop Or 0.002 😉
How do you go about inventing the machine to put the rubber tyres on 😳...excellent as always .
First of all thank you for the interesting video, and secondly, Could you please answer why the screw nut, once had four ribs and today has six ribs? According to logic, six ribs are more likely to erode ribs than four.
Economy, it's less steel used to make bolts and nuts with six flats than with 4. Plus the narrowed contact margin makes for a fastener that isn't so likely to work loose if adequately tightened.
You need to invent a gadget to set the rubber on those wires if you do so many👍👍🏴
Yeah some kind of a stretch roller would help
Do you braze instead of welding, because welding would make the wire brittle?
Mr. Spock said "Fascinating"