Ubiquiti UniFi USW Leaf Overview (Not Review) 48x 25GbE and 6x100GbE Switch
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- You can read Rohit any my full overview (not review) on the STH main site: www.servetheho...
In this video, we teardown the Ubiquiti UniFi USW-Leaf switch and see all of the cool technology that the company's first foray into primary data center switching and networking has to offer. The USW-Leaf offers 48x 25GbE ports and 6x 100GbE ports at $2,000 making it one of the most intriguing low-cost switches to date. The USW-Leaf has a new price equivalent to used Broadcom Tomahawk switches. We take the time to give some pointed feedback at what works and what does not work in Ubiquiti's first data center switch offering (excluding low-end 1/10GbE offerings.) - Наука та технологія
This looks highly serviceable for the price range. Those PSUs look like a off the shelf models you could get from Digikey or Mouser.
seems like it's only really meant for use outside the datacenter, in the rack of a business on location.
Yeah, I have trouble seeing a UniFi switch in a true data center. Seems like that's why the EdgeSwitch brand exists.
yes ubiquiti has been aiming at the prosumer market for some time but, 25/100gbps is definitely data center territory, full stop.
@@cdoublejj This switch is probably targeting video production studios where they want stupid fast connections to their end user devices. You know, the Linus special.... :P
@@Rogue136 oooh! Good point James!!!
Unifi stuff would (hopefully) never make it into a data center, even EdgeOS would be a tall order. While they produce great gear, my whole house is Unifi and I always rave about it, it's in the SME/Prosumer space, Unifi for Small/remote offices/pro house setups. Then EdgeOS for WISPs, last mile, etc (thus the edge naming).
But yeah, the video editing shops is probably where this makes most sense, "we want fast with easy controller and affordable cost!"
Due to mysterious UA-cam algorithm, I was directed to this video. After ten months, it is interesting to find out that they have not yet sold this switch publicly. It is still on the early access program. Come on. Ten months mean a Aeon in IT world.
I think they canceled it.
@@davidg4512 They won't admit it if they did or talk about it, sometimes when they pull something from the EA store they are planning on launching it, but you don't know until it happens.
That unit was designed for the small office with large egos perhaps. I for sure will look seriously into acquiring one for myself and have 100GbE at home. Pricewise it is very affordable and it will let me play with 100GbE.
Another great video. I starting to really enjoy your videos.
Exactly. We're a small office. But we do a ton of simulation work, editing, CGI, 3D art, etc. We've moved everyone's omputers to a rack since they all WFH. A dual 25GbE card in each machine is c pretty cheap (£220 Nvidia Connectx-4). But then for new employees and especially freelancers on a server, and we can put up to 16 on a server if we need to stretch it, then in downtime we can just turn that same server into a rendering machine, and that's connected by dual 100GbE. Speaking of which we also connect several smaller rendering machines via dual 25GbE.
It will help users connect to our traditional TrueNas servers with spinning rust and edit 4K directly. But of course that won't saturate two 25GbE links.
They main reason is so we can build an all flash ultra high speed storage server in the future. With customers requesting things like 8K or even 12K+ footage (for virtual display led grid walls used in the background of scenes). Having the ability to have a high speed flash server use those two 100GbE links is crucial.
I think this is what these are designed for. Not for data centres...
@@lost4468yt I'm in awe!!! You explanation made way more sense than the video did. Perhaps you should do a video showing these details.
An overview, not a review. That's some creative accounting right there.
I mean, at least he made a real effort to disclose and make sure it wasn’t viewed as an objective review.
You really need to look up what Early Access is, there is a reason they dont want people doing videos on early release products
As someone thats looked at their early access products, I've seen very little changes/improvements from early access to release. Mostly bug fixes, hardware is almost always fixed from EA to Release.
There are some interesting things they can/should change here, packaging and the plastic covers vs rubber grommets, the ER-Infinity and other SFP based products use the standard rubber grommets, not sure why here they used their own??
Oh No. They’ll block his EA access. That’s about it.
Ubiquiti products that have been released for years have these sorts of low-hanging fruit type issues. It's a Ubiquiti thing, not an early access thing.
Of course they want people to report about EA products that's why they hand them out.
Ubiquiti was started by an ex-apple network engineer. He wanted to start a company with the "Apple" type of ease and style. That's why ubiquiti has more bling than practicality.
There is no real reason to put a TOR switch on top of the rack, in fact in the middle of the rack the cabling gets easier.
I just want to say that your videos are awesome :) not many UA-cam channels ever show this level of high end gear!
Thanks!
FYI some of us are at or over 6 feet tall making the top of the rack eye level for us :p i use the LCD on my switches all the time. love having it for quick reference.
We keep seeing Ubiquity releasing new products and they are incomplete and major features are not working and it usually takes six months to a year for Ubiquity to get them fixed. We typically won't touch new products from them for 12 - 18 months because we cannot afford to be their beta testers. The problem is by then a lot of their products are EOL and ubiquity is on to something new. Not enterprise-grade or mature enough for a high-value DC.
Maybe I missed it in the video, but did you get permission from Ubiquiti to post about this? I think the Early Access EULA prohibits talking about those products outside of the Early Access section of Ubiquiti's forum. I've seen a few videos about Early Access products on other channels but they usually aren't up for long because Ubiquiti will ask the channel to take it down.
Isn't that the whole point of the early access program? Get feedback before you release publicly?
@@gamebrigada2 Ubiquiti still wants feedback. They just want that feedback kept within a space they control.
No https due to cost! 🤣 They really are just trolling us at this point, aren't they?
You might need the beta release of the Unifi Controller, not current production to manage the switch...that's typically the case with Early Access products.
Very possible. We actually got a UniFi Cloud Key Gen2 Plus just to see if that helped. It did not but that did not make the article/ video. Still, a sticker with clear documentation of that would have been good.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo It's typically clear-as-mud with EA products.
You can find the latest beta controller software here: community.ui.com/releases/UniFi-Network-Controller-5-12-60/3a8b7df2-fa35-4d5f-aee9-d07b7a61cdc2
Ubnt has more high paid employees on the payroll of marketing and packaging dept than they do in engineering dept and It shows
Their AR application for these USW's and the UDM-PRO is one of the most useful implementations of AR I have ever used (not sure it existed at the time of this video)!
Pretty sure this is aimed at something like a small CGI company that much wants to connect a bunch of workstations and servers together at high speed, so they can edit 4K or higher, so that render machines have instant access to resources etc. Not for actual data centres
It feels like Ubiquiti hired an Apple designer... some great looking products with innovative ideas yet they put form over function in areas that just don't align with their target audience.
Ubiquiti's founder left Apple to start the company. Unifi gear is prosumer to SME. Looks + price win in that segment.
I don't see an issue with a screen being at 6ft means I don't have to look down at something for once.
I get the risk of fire around paper but I'd rather see paper that can be reused over plastic that in 10s will be tossed
Several things I would say here:
1: It's not out yet, the software might not be ready for it yet
2: It's very cheap for its class, there are going to be cost savings
3: Why are you "not reviewing" it when it's this early out? It's not fully featured, there's a reason why you aren't supposed ro
Can't bring paper into datacenters?? is that a thing??
Many "bro hosting" data centers let paper in. Nicer facilities have dedicated unboxing/ staging areas and even burn-in rooms before bringing equipment on the floor. Some certifications data centers get specifically prohibit paper products on the floor.
No paper, no cardboard. Its a fire hazard and increases the chance for dust. If you wish to save some tools and cables in your rack keep it in a locked plastic container.
No paper is a requirement for any data center that gets audited.
@@esra_erimez
What do they look for during the audit that would warrant a no-paper environment inside said audited data center?
I'm still not quite sure why this might be the case. Are the auditors looking for dust or security?
@@ServeTheHomeVideo
Yeah...I've never heard of that as well.
Do you know why they prohibit paper products on the floor? Is it for dust? Security? Fire hazard?
I find it very unfortunate that they mount capxon capacitors in a switch of this type, if nippon chemicon can be mounted, that switch would be the best that has ever been manufactured.
In characteristics it is very good, but wanting to save a few dollars in capacitors makes its reliability lower than that of a higher priced Switch with Japanese capacitors.
Because of these cost savings, it causes network systems to have high failure rates ...
I've seen modems, routers, switches, etc ... break because the capacitors explode.
I have a D-Link dsr250n router, it has electrolytes from nippon chemicon, and it is one of the best switches I have had, it has not failed a single time.
This is great pre-release feedback to Ubiquiti for the final product when it’s ready. Hardware changes rarely happen once it’s available to beta test in Early Access, so I understand why you’re providing an overview of what currently exists. (Edit:) Perhaps this is one of a family of products that has an even higher end variation with a more datacenter target?
The AL-324 is in UDM and UDM-Pro so it’s interesting to see it here too. It’s quite a flexible design so I shouldn’t be surprised.
I really wish the fans and PSU's were both hot swap units.
That would probably double the cost but it would be a nice option.
?? sounds more like $10 or $20 extra on the BOM
This video is definitely against UI terms for early access...
Maybe they are not gunning for huge datacenter deployment... Maybe they see 25gbe as being a good first fiber deploy in a lot of new office setups.
There are many things in this that I'd call a "review". When saying something doesn't work, that's a review. Not a fanboy, just my $0.02.
foam screw holder is practical makes quality checks cheaper... plastic covers are the same way for quality checks. screws in a bag usually is either more or not enough screws...
This is again a simple UniFi classic situation: the hardware is MUCH more capable than the software is. The Web UI not being capable to manage all the power their hardware have ...
Why are you guys doing a video for this? It's still in early access.
Mentioned in the video and article. We had a lot of users ask about it, but who were unwilling to pay $2,000 + tax to buy one. This is not a full formal review that we do, simply an overview and our feedback on the early product. Also, mentioned in the video/ article, typically there is a red sticker but our unit did not come with this.
Even if you had users asking about it, it’s still under the early access NDA you agreed to...
Andrew Macdonald if you think you ‘agreed to an NDA’ by purchasing an item from the UniFi early access store, you’ve never signed an NDA.
Christian McDonald You can’t even access the early access store without signing up to the early access /beta agreement, which includes an NDA...
ServeTheHomeVideo
Regardless you received this product through the early access program. This video is against their terms.
So, um... not a Datacenter switch. It's a Medium Office or a SOHO IT guy device. You could use it in a datacenter, but it's not built for that.
I'm no rocket scientist here, but you are offering your negative opinions on an item that could very well have several minor and/or major changes made to it, prior to its official release, which will very likely invalidate those very opinions you have made about a product that isn't meant for consumers to have at this time. If you have issues with the design and or performance of this early access product, it would probably be best to share those opinions with Ubiquiti directly in hopes of improving the item before it is released, rather than steering consumers away from what very well could be the best budget switch for its class, once it is officially made available to the very audience you are addressing.
I liked the though coverage of this interesting product (which I might need). However, some friendly feedback: I think you could have covered the same information in somewhat less time :)
Prices on 100 GbE gear on eBay is making it hard to justify looking at anything less, but as always, the switch is the biggest hurdle. More 100 GbE coverage please.
UniFi got me my start in management home networking. I agree with your assessments. I want UniFi to improve as well. I hate that I'm stuck on all-UniFi. I hate that it's all proprietary, I hate that products like pfSense aren't compatible. I'm already starting to look for alternatives as I build out my 200 device home network over the coming years.
I mean for $2000 this isn’t bad, but for around that money you could get some S-series Dell switches that are much nicer and more mature from a refurb outfit (albeit for 10/40Gb not 25/100). As somebody said this is really meant for a onsite deployment for people who want 25Gb ports that won’t necessarily want stuff that you typically see in a data center switch like VLT/VPC. This is basically an office aggregate switch for L2 stuff, which it will sell great I assume considering Unifi’s already great offerings for SMB.
As for the troubles with discovery, you need to set the inform address in the CLI if you aren’t in the same network as the controller. I also chalk it up to alpha/early release stuff. I’m actually really excited for this. I wouldn’t put it in the middle of a vSphere cluster or at the core of my network, but for an office aggregate switch that connects a bunch other access layer switching it may be a good pick.
I've had the problem of finding devices on release products. I've had it resort to manual ads, but like he said, it's a terrible first impression; and you're usually struggling to get it to work. It's not a good situation to be in when it doesn't just work.
Seems this is more aimed at the companies looking to expand up into 25/100 but are already using Unifi for SDN, it fits the product range and if you have a fault I expect the idea is you warranty swap it, looks like it would make a nice switch for small but fast HCI system
The problem with this is like he said; if they kill the product, there's not always a replacement. Second, you need to be able to service switches in the rack. Taking them out is expensive especially because this one doesn't have rails. I own only UniFi, but I'm also upset knowing other brands are doing more.
Guys, I normally love your videos but this one really gripes me. You keep comparing this switch to other TOR datacentre switches. This is in the Unifi line, therefore its for workgroup / campus environments. You would be a lunatic to use this in a DC environment, and that's obvious from the outset. This is exactly the sort of switch I'd use in the main comms room to aggregate fibre links out to other Unifi switches within a large office or a campus. I'd expect this to be used as a distribution switch in University / Education or high bandwidth corporate networks (maybe media companies?). Feels like the first few minutes of this video are a bit unfair - eg. non hot swap etc. is normal for campus switches. THIS IS NOT A DATACENTRE SWITCH!!!
Actually it is being marketed as part of Ubiquiti's new "Data Center" line with the spine as the next version. Just being clear STH did not make that label up. It is actually the name of the line, the competitive comparison points, and what Ubiquiti's public marketing materials position it as.
ServeTheHomeVideo I take your word for it and I stand corrected! Apologies. In which case much of your assessment is spot on. Seems they’re maybe being ambitious with the datacentre label. I suspect much of the installed base for this will likely be the campus and not the datacentre, despite Ubiquiti’s lofty claims.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I get the evaluating it as a Data Center switch if that is what Ubiquiti is marketing it as but I also think you maybe could have stepped outside of the box and said where it actually belongs given the features and the price. I mean you said right at the beginning that it seems to be priced for SMB and then wholly evaluated it as a datacenter switch even nitpicking on things like their port covers not having nubins and their choice of paper in their packaging. That would be fair feedback given the product was in early access but it really felt like you wanted to tell them to not even try which is why the product is now canceled. It it honestly reminiscent of old time linux forums where gray beards will eviscerate any newcomers they don't deem worthy.
"ToR" is just a marketing name. Many of my "top-of-rack" switches are actually dead-center of the rack -- so I don't need 8ft+ cables to reach the bottom. (and in one rack, they're "zero-U" - mounted in the sides of the rack.)
This isn't a datacentre switch so a lot of your criticism misses the mark.
Unifi is pretty much prosumer / low end SMB tier. Viewed in that space, this is a great proposition.
Hi Mark, this is actually being marketed specifically as a DC switch. From the product brief on the public Ubiquiti site: "UniFi Data Center Series is a new product line from Ubiquiti. The UniFi Switch Leaf is the first product and it will be followed by the UniFi Switch Spine."
Shame they didn't have modular fans and PSUs. Can't change which side of the rack you want the ports to face, as you can't change the direction of fans (at least easily), otherwise it seems like a good product for the price.
"Billyuns and billyuns of ... switches ... in a cosmic ... soup of networking."
The Carl Sagan of home networking.
I see 4-pin fan assemblies, and I wonder if Noctua or any other so-called "Silent" fans are compatible with that configuration, specifically the form factor (aka fan size height/width/depth and screw receptacle)? For context, I usually replace any fan for any product with something "Silent" while staying in accordance with thermal envelope. I'm operating a home lab in a dedicated media closet attached to home theater, so silence is important, but not so important to risk poor thermals. I'm very interested in this switch, because the rest of my home network core is currently all 10BASE-T, but that's kinda slow. If my math is correct, 25GBe is about ~ 2980 MiB/s using the math: `(25 * 10^9) / 2^20 / 8`. So that's about enough to saturate a single m.2 PCIe-v3 NVMe storage stick on my various lab systems, and possibly even a Synology NAS with read/write cache enabled. My only gripe here is wishing for something smaller ~24 port instead. But at this price I feel like this is already a huge discount, other vendors sell a fabric like this in the 5 digit range. So I'm not complaining, I guess just pointing out that I'm in Ubiquiti's market segment of smaller customer looking for the Apple of networking kits, because my family sometimes needs to login and fiddle with the network.
Ubiquiti are doing some really strange shit atm. They have this high speed segment but no proper thought put into it.
They have the low cost segment with features that ruins the performance.
They have a low cost segment with fewer gui features but no AP's to go with it.
They keep on wanting you to use their Unifi system but they never put enough thought into the Unifi system for it to be a good and solid thing to switch to.
If you need 10 or 100Gb networking, you either want to go the cheap way or the expensive DC way.
There just are not a lot of usecases where prosumers or small bussinesses needs or wants 100Gb networking and if they do, they tend to run critical services over that network. If they have critical systems running they know that they need a very short downtime if anything would happen to both the main and the failover path.
This switch doesnt tick any of the boxes for the high speed, reliability and service time requirements for critical deployment areas.
And with the lacking software set im not sure id even consider them in this segment. Id rather go with an EOL Cisco set tbh.
I think this switch, being a UniFi product, was never destined for enterprise/datacenter use. Instead it's targeted to small and medium businesses with high speed networking needs (Linus Tech Tips being the first example that came to my mind), where they want to try out the cool stuff but don't want to pay the premium to do it properly and is willing accept some downtime as a result of that.
Will this allow me to stream myself playing fourthnight on my dsl satellite?
Sorry bud, only works with Thirdnight (and Secondnight bc backwards compatibility)
Overview, this is a great idea! Early Access is a US only area and as such not view-able for us here in Europe. Now guess who has just, well a couple of months back, just spent a small fortune on his Unify (USG 4 Pro, 24 port switch, 8 port POE switch, Nano HD AP and an AP Pro) products.
Imagine how pissed I was to find all the new products that have just been released?
So I for one am all for Early Access Overviews.... two thumbs up and subscribed!
All these oversights are just a run of the mill ubiquiti blunders.
Err so routers use juniper syntax and switches use Cisco then they have their own for other gear. They need to decide this makes it hard to run all ubnt gear switching between different syntax styles.
How tall are you? 6 feet off the ground is basically eye level that sounds perfect
He is actually an ant. that blue stuff behind him? Skirting board =P
Yes. UBNT has no clue. Fantastic idea on the whiteboard, that gets completely ruined by their uber-cheapness. Tape?!? because it's cheaper than dirt. The first thing you learn about tape: it doesn't stay sticky forever. (a zip-tie through a punched knuckle will be there 'til the end of days.) The caged power supplies are a clear sign this thing was "designed from a catalog", as we like to say. (a bunch of lego's stuck together -- while nice for quick prototyping, such things should never leave the workbench. and never give them to a youtuber!) "Looks cool!" on a device no one is _ever_ going to look at.
as it says on the forum post. the unifi bit is not ready yet on this beta device's firmware.
also, you could have read more of the forum... the software on that device is Cumulus Os... which is a standard linux distribution for switches.
Hi, I'm surprised that you are reviewing this as a datacenter product when it is clearly targeted at home consumer and small/medium business deployments. The clues are clearly there in every way the product was designed and how it is obviously not a part of the edgemax line of their products.
As someone who built his homenet with 10 Gbe UniFi 16 XG and considers himself enthusiast I wonder what the Usecase for SMB and Soho is for 25 Gbe or even 100 Gbe...
@@itmkoeln Unifi is a prosumer/Small buisness optimized brand, in that market, there are plenty of miners, researchers, developers and creative professionals that need fast high speed networking. either to a Storage server or processing server. this is intended for that market. the market that needs a highend fast switch but not a datacenter grade one.
@@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks I'm actually with itm on this. I built an enthusiast 10g Home Network as well, and Have been running into bottlenecks all over just due to hardware constraints. Even Linus tried to transfer Files using SMB over 100Gbe and didn't even get half the possible speed due to windows. I really don't see anyone getting a switch like this while not having a usecase that would call for at least datacenter grade and budget...
But how big is the buffer on these per port? that's where lower priced switches tend to perform not so well compared to mainstream network vendors. Looks similar to Juniper QFX-5100
This doesn't seem designed for datacenter, but where else do you want a switch like that
My House
Linus's house?
Good for a house if you are into that level of hardware.
Me: still uses 1GbE
STH: look at this 48x 25GbE Switch!!!
The other switches Rohit has been working on in parallel are all 32x 100GbE switches. Stay tuned :-)
@@ServeTheHomeVideo thank you, now my Setup feels even more outdated 👌😂
Have a nice day
@@Felix-ve9hs honestly, the only reason to upgrade the port bandwidth is if you're getting close to hitting your bandwidth limits. dont feel like your gear is outdated if upgrading doesnt provide you any gains.
@@bassman87 i know, 1GbE is totally fine for my Setup since I don't actively use this bandwidth - only while doing my backups - but this won't stop me from wanting to go overkill :D
@@Felix-ve9hs by all means, if you wanna geek out and spend the money, no one is stopping you. I was simply saying that 1gbps links aren't outdated, and I'll add in a business setting switches are right sized based on bandwidth / network feature needs, not what's available on the market.
This device is very cool but yes this is a prosumer/ SMB device. All of the criticism is valid but I this this is not a Data center device and is also has a price to match. My meraki switches cost way way more and do comparable functions.
What is the main thing people hate about this switch? Is it lacking performance? Is it due to not having hot swappable PSU/fans? Seems perfect for installing in a high density compute rack or cage in colocation. Don't like the touch screen and bluetooth though.
I wanted this switch to come out, but it has disappeared from EA.
Data center, Out-of-band management port?? No, ubiquity sells to DIY people, less power in configs but maybe less probability to mess something up. You want manage this, buy some other equipment (ex.: udm-pro) and acess through unifi software.
Life cycle doesn't seems to be the theme I agree.
this is perfect as a backbone for my small production company I'm trying to go from 10 gig to 25 for my fiber runs but most of the ea store stuff with 25 is out of stock for the last few weeks :( i hope i can get my hands on one of these if they come back in stock
How come I don't see this switch in the Unifi Store?
Discontinued after this review
@@ServeTheHomeVideo and then serve the home stopped covering unifi - seems like a big mistake
Yeah... if you're not on the same network segment as a new device, you'll have issues adopting
Why so negative? I'll admit I'm a Ubiquiti fanboy but give it a break. It's a $2,000 switch, not a $10,000 switch.
If I were you I would take down this video for the time being before Ubiquiti reports it and removes your early access... According to the Early Access EULA from Ubiquiti this is prohibited. You are not allowed to make videos of Early Access products.
@Stevospeedo The NDA you agree to when entering the Early Access program is.
This guy: Reaches way up to hit 6 ft off floor......
me: wow he's really short....
Life of being like 5'10 :-/ Usually you are reaching up and over from outside of a rack into it and the first U is usually off the floor a few inches.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Had no idea about your height. The pointer about the placement of that screen is still just as valid. I feel like it should be on a slight swivel at least considering the switch's usual placement.
So much whining about "saving couple of pennies", it's f 2k for 6x100gbps and 48x25gbps which means - exceptionally cheap, with such price, you don't need hot swappable anything in switch because it can be hotswapped as a one piece
Zip ties for cable management will help you much? You will need to carefully strip them without stripping cables, which is harder than removing sticky tape, so why it's better?
Expected to see performance metrics instead of completely useless whining about stuff which isn't matter
Even at this price point, no one wants to swap a switch to replace a power supply. Popping the lid on a live, fully populated switch isnt practical either. I accept the N+2 fans not being modular, but not the power supplies
Ehren8879 than buy switch for 7k and power supplies 700 bucks each. This switch is cheap and gives failure protection at the same level as his costly brothers in price of your comfort
Hey! Do you still have it? It could be nice to review it now that it doesn't exist anymore just to show what 100 GbE switching looks like on Unifi!
Thank you so much for making this, you saved me $2,000. I knew there were a few bad things about this switch, but now it actually looks like a joke. I'm now questioning myself buying into the Unifi ecosystem so heavily.
No kidding, the last couple of years they have put up major efforts to distance themselves from the market as much as humanly possible. Sometimes I wonder if there's just a chimp sitting at the CEO's desk using dice to work out product features. Actually, no offense to those fine animals, they'd make smarter decisions.
I had high high hopes for Chris Buechler joining Ubiquiti and being put in charge of the UniFi team, but sadly it seems in hindsight that is when they started going downhill. I don't know how we ended up here, but things they promised years ago are still incomplete, buggy, or entirely missing. Simple stuff that beggars belief that they did not consider and still haven't remedied like total lack of any ability to setup a redundant switch stack without a huge, fat single point of failure at the router. I have invested tens of thousands of dollars into UniFi gear at my workplace, and I'm increasingly looking like a fool. I've had multiple occasions now where all LAN-to-LAN traffic has completely died (traffic between two devices on the same LAN and switch, and internet access unaffected though), at the switch boundaries for no explicable reason, no trace to find in any log. Just dead until all the switches are power cycled. If it happens again, I don't know who's going to rip the entire stack out of the rack quickest, me or my CTO. I've used UniFi wireless at home for years without many unsolvable issues... my mistake was trusting it for routing and switching at work.
@@W1ldTangent Dont be so hard on yourself. Its far from your fault for buying what seems like great value just to be backstabbed by bad management on their side.
I wouldnt have gotten the Unifi system myself but that has more to do with me not wanting to have bloaty software between myself and the hardware im working on.
Im not in a position to deploy mission critical infrastructure tho, so im a bit more relaxed towards time sensitive changes.
Good luck tho! I hope Ubiquiti will get their collective shit together, they have a good base idea behind their stuff but the management needs to let devops do their job.
I appreciate the Overview, but the mic audio is overly bass-y, and a bit echo-y
Wondering some sound dampening where you record would help, please. Thanks
I was excited as soon as I saw those.
over a year later still not out
LOL, at 6ft off the ground I would need to look down. But that's just me and well some other folks.
I want one of these but they disappeared from the ea store
Is it just me that's confused about calling a (Q)SFP28 port a 25/100 GbE port? It's after all not an Ethernet transceiver...
The Bluetooth connection is probably off by default (touch screen to enable it/pair up I guess)
hard to call its leaf switch :D
Yea, i would not trust that switch to be performing well at the DC
With switches offering 25/100Gb ports, the only question is how well they do RoCE. Tomahawk is kinda terrible at it.
I wonder how worthwhile something like this is, if it doesn't have RoCE, last time I saw numbers with RoCE enabled the perf double and the CPU usage dropped 40%. So when looking at this type of gear do you pay $2k for this or considerably more on something with RoCE support and less money on bigger CPU's?
@@affieuk most people don't even know how to check if their servers got a roce compatible NIC using Google, much less do they spend time properly enabling :-(
@@udirt So true.
why cant they make a rj45 one with all 10 gig !!!
Datacenter grade switches are more experience, this is not designed for datacenter, it's designed for a SMB. Be that a server closet or what have you.
Ubiquiti is trying to achieve cult status like Apple
This seems very much intended for a company that has a small amount of stuff in a medium size office, for which speed i s important, but huge management interface isn't.
I love STH usually, but to open with: "This is awesome that's its so cheap!" and then basically complain: "Why doesn't this match up better against products double its price?!?!"
Like, what?
seems pretty pointless to me since there is nothing from ubiquiti I could connect to it. no switch with 25gig uplink, no pc is capable of that, nothing.
You can readily find 25Gb NICs. You can even purchase a 100Gb NIC. They're not that scarce, just expensive.
@@mndlessdrwer yes but think about it. running dac around your whole office or fiber?
@@JPK1337 if you need that kind of throughput, then you deal with the necessary consequences. Fiber is fairly expensive, but it is a worthwhile investment if it can accelerate your operations. Alternately, you build an actual server room, populate it with enough servers to run VMs for all of the compute that you require and with enough GPUs in each server to allocate the necessary number to each VM as necessary for your workload, then you add in a KVM accelerator card, run 10Gb to your thin client workstations for RDP or VLC, and use 25Gb or 100Gb for in-rack switching and connectivity to your SAN or NAS.
is there a 10gbe version out thats similar to this one?
it is probably 25g/10g capable.
Else there is one from netgear with 40g/100g ethernet/infiniband and 48 rj45 10g ports for 2500
That is right. This can clock down to run at 10GbE (on 25GbE ports) or 40GbE (on 100GbE ports)
You would hope people use OoBM.
Which Ethernet cards did you test this with?
We used Intel XXV710, Mellanox Connect-X 4 Lx, ConnectX-5 VPI, Broadcom 25GbE adapters in PCIe and in OCP form factors, and QLogic 25GbE adapters (HPE and Oracle). Compatibility was good.
This product is early access (beta) so somethings won’t work, I would assume you wouldn’t put something that is beta into production
Obviously it is not for a data center and just a performance model for home enthusiasts or small companies.
Do you think as these and other 25gb switches come down in price 10gb will come down to 1gb 48 port pricing?
If this was in the EdgeSwitch line I would want it, however, being UniFi I have no interest in it due to all of the crap that you mentioned in this non-review.
If I need a lower cost data center switch for routing my ip transport out would this be a decent option for that?
What are the model numbers of the other switches mentioned at the 16 minute mark?
16:53 That is a great joke I want to make sure you guys know landed for me.
Looks like they've designed that switch for HomeLab use and have them showing us on those sexy Reddit pictures.
Yeah we all can afford a 100GbE switch!
6 feet high man i feel bad for short people sometimes and then i realize they can fit into cars i want and stop.
Bashing switch in this price range is crazy. That oled screen is used as well for AR which is very useful. 👎
do you still have this switch?
Why paper is not allowded in datacenters
I assume it would be due to dust and all the airflow that would yeet it away.
Many data centers get various certifications for their customers. Several certifications prohibit paper on the data center floor due to fire risk and particles that can come off of paper/ cardboard.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo interesting . how likely is such a thing to happen
mistakenot ou when you are hosting servers for 100s of businesses, you have to minimize all risks. I’ve seen data centers with armed guards holding rifles.
Where's the 8 or 12 port versions?
This is an enterprise level device, you wont see an 8-12 port version. The least you will see is likely to be 24+6
@@DeadlyDragon_ you're silly.
I have many Cisco distro switches that are are less than 24 ports. See: 3850-16xs or 9500 -12q or 9500-16x.
Not all of us are using these types of switches soley in the data center. We're using them in our MDFs as distro switches and cores.
Also see Aruba CX or Aruba 3810m.