Instead of focusing on stopping the far right, they should pay more attention to finding out why it appeals to so many people and what's wrong with their own policies.
That's not possible. Western liberal democracies are sustained by a series of commitments they can't walk back, the political managerial class cannot do anything other than demand more control over the general population in order to contain the backlash, that's all.
In my humble opinion the issue is more that people are sick and tired of being told by the elites “it’s the end of the 5th republic” to quote one of the panelists, and “choose to write history” to quote EM. I dislike the RN but what they are doing is pushing ppl to the RN.
Exactly! Just my thought, a bunch of left wingers who can’t see that it is the horrible mess of society that the establishment parties created that makes people vote for something different. I feel like this panel is living in a fantasy world.
It's a panel about how the RN could be prevented from getting into power not a "let's talk about our differences panel." Thier is a time and place for both
@@johnnybrave7443 Nope. This means you don't know the French politics. The Socialist Party is a center-left party, for some times it wasn't even considered as a left bloc but rather a center bloc with the republicans.
@@Nerwesta sheesh, socialism is a radical leftist ideology, it's generally considered far left Social democrats with a socially liberal mindset would generally be considered center left French labels given by the council seem quite absurd
If only people would look at the issues and solve them, irrespective of party, without screaming labels or just being politically correct for nothing , and work together….what a world that would be ….
This video is an example of why public broadcasters shouldn't exist. Why is a government sponsored entity advocating against a particular legal political party?
They should work together. The far right stopping boats from immigrants and the far left the boats in Monaco. In a years time the one making the most money for France can deliver the president. This competition would be won by the left within 24 hours. Probably 10 seconds if they tax Bernard Arnault first.
@@JamesL42 Bill Clinton was the last president who had a budget surplus as a US president. He did that by raising tax for people making above 600k a year. Also the last US president who raised taxes for the rich. Look where the US debt stands now. Reagan lowered taxes and raised the debt ceiling the most of any president. At the end he caused Black Monday on Wallstreet. People became homeless and lost all their money.
They should work together. The far right stopping boats from immigrants and the far left the boats in Monaco. In a years time the one making the most money for France can deliver the president. This competition would be won by the left within 24 hours. Probably 10 seconds if they tax Bernard Arnault first.
Of course more young people overall now vote for the left. The younger demographics are far more "diverse". The question is, how do most native French young people vote? I think it's clear they're far more likely to vote for RN, as they should.
If you think about ethnicity, then the European USians should return to Europe by your logic. If you think about nationality, then everyone who is French is French ..
@@Nerwestahello, France is more of an ethnostate unlike the US. France is more like Japan. A person who's not ethnically japanese wouldn't be considered as " japanese enough "by the people living there, for example the Ukrainian woman who won the miss Japan pageant
@@johnnybrave7443 France isn't an ethnostate lmao. Tell me how the Burgundians have anything genetically in common to the Bretons or Normands. This is just continental France mind you. Nothing remotely comparable to a insular society without any major invasions like Japan.
@@johnnybrave7443 But I see you dodged the question by your logic : America should stay America and European USian should return quick and easy to Europe, give Native people their land back !
Not "always"! Historically/traditionally, Communism has been the political ideology associated with/of the far-left (of the political spectrum); these days, however, most communist parties (around the World) have moved "rightward", towards the left-wing (of the political spectrum), by replacing Marxism with Democratic Socialism, as their main political ideology (a political ideology, historically/traditionally, associated with socialist parties).
@@existentialvoid Macron's party in 2017 was both center left and right = this is what got him increasingly popular among French people. Over the time it steered on the right hand side of our politcal spectrum, you're right ( no pun intended, sorry ). Over the time the center-leftists left. This is why I wrote " in 2017 ". Macron's 2017 party was LREM, Renaissance is 2022.
@32:28 the Professor just laid it out clearly and unambiguously for the panel and you could see that they weren’t ready for this level of nuance. The National Rally don’t need to have a stable list of policies because they are specifically aiming just at identity. NR will change nothing-i love that the lady in red blouse completely missed his point about the markets being amoral. People completely understand the undertones of “binational”
Also the other professor Ghez, is completely misinterpreting the facts. The National Rally does in fact consider him and his ilk lesser than and want to devalue his labour for not being white and French.
Two seconds in and the anchorman with a deep, audible sigh before giving results of the first round of voting. That tells you his personal political persuasion.
I have seen the lady in red before. I think she is a pretty good analyst, probably a bit more left wing than me but I think she doesn't let bias creep in and is very accurate. The two men carry a bunch of bias but still interesting.
Your bias is clear, but thank you for this broadcast. It’s helpful to hear people explain the issues, even if most of them are not objective and totally missing the point about why people are voting the way they are.
The economy is going good, the unemployment rate is going down, he or she is being better today than before, and the economy is better than some years before. But many people do not find it enough to describe that the country is better and the politicians at power are great (so vote for him or her again). Other aspects come to the debate and gain importance.
Yes the Math tells Europe has had enough of Immigrants and Muslims The world has a lot of countries for them but NOT Europe its for US who was BORN here
We could do with a two stage election like France, and on Sundays. It would concentrate minds wonderfully. Question? Do y ou really want facists in power? Answer No.!
It really is a relief to listening on France24 and DW public broadcasting channels who give unbiased reporting and the debates are interesting and we'll informed. Not like the British networks. Complete rubbish.
Instead of focusing on stopping the far right, they should pay more attention to finding out why it appeals to so many people and what's wrong with their own policies.
This is the same story in US, but they never bother to reflect...the narcisists
That's not possible.
Western liberal democracies are sustained by a series of commitments they can't walk back, the political managerial class cannot do anything other than demand more control over the general population in order to contain the backlash, that's all.
@@GENRTSYou think they don't realise their policies don't benifet the citizens? They know but don't care... Anything for wealth and power.
Yet.....u need to stop the far rights
In my humble opinion the issue is more that people are sick and tired of being told by the elites “it’s the end of the 5th republic” to quote one of the panelists, and “choose to write history” to quote EM.
I dislike the RN but what they are doing is pushing ppl to the RN.
LOL... this panel is exactly why the RN is winning.
No. They are using bigotry. Also they promise much but even though they don't know how to deliver. So they are using hate and lies to win.
They embrace nuance and explore complexity?
Exactly! Just my thought, a bunch of left wingers who can’t see that it is the horrible mess of society that the establishment parties created that makes people vote for something different. I feel like this panel is living in a fantasy world.
@@Rnankn They're all leftists.
Which is...?
It's not the far right smashing up cities
I despise the RN but it’s ridiculous not having a RN representative when they garnish 1/3 of all votes.
It’s anti-democratic
Almost like the regime is afraid.
Who cares
It's a panel about how the RN could be prevented from getting into power not a "let's talk about our differences panel." Thier is a time and place for both
@@lux2094 yeah people are missing the point completely.
LOL the boogeyman "The Far Right."
You mean the far left
@Rnankn like the French collaborator petain
So, a third of the French not represented in this discussion except to denigrate them.
And they're the REAL French.
Perhaps, because of the (kind/type) of policies proposed by the (French political) far-right, i.e. (the) RN!?
Can the "left" stop the "far right"? Wow. No media bias here.
and How can the rest of us STOP the Left destructive forces that has destroyed so much in the last 100 years
She is far-right, the right is the Republicains. There is no far-left on National Assembly ...
@@Nerwesta the socialists and the commies really should be considered far left
@@johnnybrave7443 Nope. This means you don't know the French politics.
The Socialist Party is a center-left party, for some times it wasn't even considered as a left bloc but rather a center bloc with the republicans.
@@Nerwesta sheesh, socialism is a radical leftist ideology, it's generally considered far left
Social democrats with a socially liberal mindset would generally be considered center left
French labels given by the council seem quite absurd
Demagogues, native French people are concerned about extermination of French native people, security, people can walk free.
If only people would look at the issues and solve them, irrespective of party, without screaming labels or just being politically correct for nothing , and work together….what a world that would be ….
Clearly the media is on one side, and it’s not on the side of the population, it has an agenda!
Maybe if you scream FAR;FAR;FAR louder they can?
This video is an example of why public broadcasters shouldn't exist. Why is a government sponsored entity advocating against a particular legal political party?
You are right! They are just a socialist propaganda tool payed for by the taxpayers money
why are you so willing to defend the far-right lol? It's not wrong for the public broadcasters to advocate against the far-right because they are bad.
This public broadcaster advocates against the left as much, but I don't remind you criticising that.
Traditionally, centrists side with fascists against Leftists. Expect French centrists to usher in fascism
spot on.
@@scottlette it doesn't, « but it ryhmes ».
Mark Twain.
Yes, because leftists literally want to destroy the country.
Lets hope the right can stop the far left
They should work together. The far right stopping boats from immigrants and the far left the boats in Monaco. In a years time the one making the most money for France can deliver the president. This competition would be won by the left within 24 hours. Probably 10 seconds if they tax Bernard Arnault first.
@@Joey-ct8bm Aha yes because just putting taxes up on the rich solves everything, why has nobody every thought of trying this before???
Stop them from what? Solving actual problems and making the far right irrelevant?
@@JamesL42 Bill Clinton was the last president who had a budget surplus as a US president. He did that by raising tax for people making above 600k a year.
Also the last US president who raised taxes for the rich. Look where the US debt stands now.
Reagan lowered taxes and raised the debt ceiling the most of any president. At the end he caused Black Monday on Wallstreet. People became homeless and lost all their money.
@@Joey-ct8bmHe had to work with conservative Republicans to do that. He moved right (on welfare reform too) they didn’t move left.
Can we stop the far left? Lets focus on that too
They should work together. The far right stopping boats from immigrants and the far left the boats in Monaco. In a years time the one making the most money for France can deliver the president. This competition would be won by the left within 24 hours. Probably 10 seconds if they tax Bernard Arnault first.
@@Joey-ct8bm What's the point of making al lot of money when you're being replaced?
Frightening, to think that “Sociologist” teaches kids…😂
Everything he said was correct.
"Far-right" ideas like abolishing family reunification for non-EU migrants, tougher response against crime, etc. all have majority support.
Why FAR right? Left, centrist but FAR right.
Of course more young people overall now vote for the left. The younger demographics are far more "diverse". The question is, how do most native French young people vote? I think it's clear they're far more likely to vote for RN, as they should.
How can it be far right to say that France should be French or that Sweden should be Swedish?!
If you think about ethnicity, then the European USians should return to Europe by your logic. If you think about nationality, then everyone who is French is French ..
@@Nerwestahello, France is more of an ethnostate unlike the US. France is more like Japan. A person who's not ethnically japanese wouldn't be considered as " japanese enough "by the people living there, for example the Ukrainian woman who won the miss Japan pageant
@@johnnybrave7443 France isn't an ethnostate lmao. Tell me how the Burgundians have anything genetically in common to the Bretons or Normands.
This is just continental France mind you.
Nothing remotely comparable to a insular society without any major invasions like Japan.
@@johnnybrave7443 But I see you dodged the question by your logic : America should stay America and European USian should return quick and easy to Europe, give Native people their land back !
@@Nerwesta I don't understand what you mean, sorry... :)
OMG whats the problem on TAX THE RICH? They are richer than ever at the expenses of our lifes! OMG!!!!! Stop licking the boot of the billionaires!!!!
Why is there always a "far-right" but never a "far-left"?
There is a far-left in France, why do you ask this stupid question ?
Becouse "far-right" is closer to the east and that means the end of democracy…
in france we call it "far left" now
Not "always"! Historically/traditionally, Communism has been the political ideology associated with/of the far-left (of the political spectrum); these days, however, most communist parties (around the World) have moved "rightward", towards the left-wing (of the political spectrum), by replacing Marxism with Democratic Socialism, as their main political ideology (a political ideology, historically/traditionally, associated with socialist parties).
@@mariusmatei2946 exactly, people don't seem to understand that well across the pond. They destroyed any single left wing party anyway on their soil.
Who are these people?
Notice how they never bother explain why they're fascist. Almost like they're looking into the mirror :))
it is a waste of time to explain what is already clear.
@@lux2094 really? mind explaining how by definition of fascism are they the fascists? :))
@@JosephAkub extreme nationalism is the base of fascism.
Not left - far left.
And there are no centrists left.
There is : PS and Macron's party in 2017 were centrist left.
There isn't any far left in the assembly, you guys don't know anything.
@@Nerwesta I pegged Renaissance as a center right movement.
I understand it was ment to be both - but in practice it has pulled to the right.
@@existentialvoid Macron's party in 2017 was both center left and right = this is what got him increasingly popular among French people.
Over the time it steered on the right hand side of our politcal spectrum, you're right ( no pun intended, sorry ).
Over the time the center-leftists left.
This is why I wrote " in 2017 ".
Macron's 2017 party was LREM, Renaissance is 2022.
Whats right is RIGHT
Not “far” right….just right.
The world sure wants us dead.
Wasn’t CDG much more right than the current ones?
And the left more left than the current one. Your point ?
People are fed up
@32:28 the Professor just laid it out clearly and unambiguously for the panel and you could see that they weren’t ready for this level of nuance.
The National Rally don’t need to have a stable list of policies because they are specifically aiming just at identity. NR will change nothing-i love that the lady in red blouse completely missed his point about the markets being amoral. People completely understand the undertones of “binational”
Also the other professor Ghez, is completely misinterpreting the facts. The National Rally does in fact consider him and his ilk lesser than and want to devalue his labour for not being white and French.
I could not find the audio podcast on Spotify…
Two seconds in and the anchorman with a deep, audible sigh before giving results of the first round of voting. That tells you his personal political persuasion.
delusional. this debate is only delusional
No, they are choosing the Right, not the "far" Right. Get it straight. Report the truth.
I have seen the lady in red before. I think she is a pretty good analyst, probably a bit more left wing than me but I think she doesn't let bias creep in and is very accurate. The two men carry a bunch of bias but still interesting.
"We have to realize people aren't stupid." Good job!
You messed up. Should read: "Can French right stop far-left, centrists?" (Oh, wait: something wrong with that perspective?)
People don't care about Ukraine or Russia they care about France economy....stop using the Boogeyman deflection
Bring philosophers and true thinkers, they will tell you why you are failing miserably. People had enough of politicians acting like elites.
This Eric guy gets it. He's amazing.
Go Marine, Goooo!!!
French Math is complicated. Still hard to predict! Maybe there is a surprise as well! 🤗
well to me 28+22,5 is still 50,5 unless somebody deflects and leaves a party
@@federicogiorgetti9174 Will they all work together? In doubt.🥴
Considering the panel, no wonder people vote the other side.
I love young leaders who have new ideas about what it means to be a true leader 👏👏👏👏
Your bias is clear, but thank you for this broadcast. It’s helpful to hear people explain the issues, even if most of them are not objective and totally missing the point about why people are voting the way they are.
I wouldn't be associated with the far-left or far-right. Good for Bruno! You can't compromise your values.
The economy is going good, the unemployment rate is going down, he or she is being better today than before, and the economy is better than some years before. But many people do not find it enough to describe that the country is better and the politicians at power are great (so vote for him or her again). Other aspects come to the debate and gain importance.
I'm so annoyed by Emma-Kate that I'll turn communist..
Merci .
Francois has no accent. Amazing.
Viva La France! Trump/Le Pen 2024 🇺🇸🇫🇷
Far-Right ? Got Far-Left? The centrist seems to be Far- Centrist (or I call Far-Center).
i was waiting these neo libirals mention Putin, viola....... the lady in the red does, I am Nostradamus!🤣
Democracy is working. Oh no!!!
Yikes!
I hope America does not follow suit this November.
It will. Cry harder.
1 in 3.
Yep and with only 400 000 more votes than the following block.
That's very interesting.
Viva, NR!
NR President looks like Ronaldo 👍
How do you come second if no one really likes you?
What is far right?
Anything to the right of the Left...
Authoritarian Right.
who cares what is FAR right what is Important is who is RIGHT SO FAR
@@thomasdellerttommydollar2023 Right on.
@@Leptospirosi anything to the right of the right.* They are seated on the right end side of an assembly for this reason ...
Stop the Facists!
No. Stop the anti-fascists.
'Antisemitism' 😅
If you know basic math, you know the answer.
Yes the Math tells Europe has had enough of Immigrants and Muslims The world has a lot of countries for them but NOT Europe its for US who was BORN here
@@thomasdellerttommydollar2023 ??? Born? Mixed in the USA.
We could do with a two stage election like France, and on Sundays. It would concentrate minds wonderfully.
Question? Do y
ou really want facists in power?
Answer No.!
It really is a relief to listening on France24 and DW public broadcasting channels who give unbiased reporting and the debates are interesting and we'll informed. Not like the British networks. Complete rubbish.
Faaaarrrrr what???? Please give us a break,by the way iam highly educated and knows why I like my faaaaaaaarrrrr right.
You don't sound very educated.
This far-Left panel is an international lesson in groupthink.
define far left
It is more like the far left versus the centrist right Your reporting is very bias and left-wing
This election will decide that France will become like algeria or not.