This game legitimately tries so hard to make the main characters likable and morally correct which is insane considering what these games’ legacies are.
It’s insane considering their actual actions in the game. “Derp! I am a violent political extremist but my ideas are in vogue and are considered more acceptable than other violent political movements for some reason! Time to go rob and kill a bunch of people I’ve dehumanized with a nebulous label, doink!”
I fully understand making characters likable but making them super progressive hipsters is just insulting to the audience. It's possible to have characters be likable and not squeaky clean. Arthur Morgan still has redeeming qualities despite being an outlaw. The most egregious part for me is when the saints show mercy to a random civilian during the first robbery but ruthlessly kill cops who are just doing their jobs and going on rampage missions where you indiscriminately kill anyone in your line of sight.
@@Dalton_Boardman2000 Arthur Morgan was well aware of his ill deeds and as a result hated himself and believed he was doomed, only for death to wake him up and for him to redeem himself. The MC and their gang here are just written so desperately to come off as likeable despite being violent psychos because "well i dislike capitalism and my gang is multicultural so that justifies me", its pure slop
I love Zach in this trilogy because he had to write an entertaining show with Smiling Friends, so he legitimately takes offense to this terrible writing in these games.
@@planetzdrIt stinks of Current Hollywood Hollowness. Aggressively inspired by a popular thing and forcing an existing property with a crowbar to be that popular thing without understanding that you can’t just make a Batman out of a Superman and can’t make a Watchmen out of a Kingdom Come. For a reboot, it pulls a Bomberman Act Zero but if it was written by Joss Weadon and going in the other creatively terrible direction. No stakes, stupid changes that adds nothing to the world, has little of the original’s heart or style that gave it an identity to begin with and giving you very little reason to get invested because the game can't be bothered to give a shit either.
@@rayvenkman2087I want you to re-read that second paragraph, but imagine someone not knowing at least half of the references you're making. I'm not trying to demean but its legitimately incomprehensible to me, it reads like brainrot
It's what I don't get. In trying to make games that pander to the idea of what young people want, these out of touch weirdos make what I can only describe as bigoted mockeries of people with the personalities of bullies or idiots that spew exposition and talk like Marvel movies.
I found out lately that there's a thor comicbook series where he fight his corporate self who is slowly warping his mind and forcing quippy dialogues and banter in his mind and there's him having a mental breakdown while fighting and he is like "by OdIn, I can't think. what is happening to... WeLl ThAt jUst hAppEn. He iS behInd me iSn't He?"
I remember also seeing someone saying that they were hoping the entire advertising was a huge 4D Chess move where the Reboot crew would show in the tutorial and gets wiped out by the OG Saints once the tutorial is finished and the OG Saints would go in to do real Gangster stuff. I really wished that was true.
@@TheGary108 honestly I think rebooting it with a new crew was the way to go, but make them, you know, still Saints. Not whatever this was. Maybe have the old guy show up as cameos and pass the torch or something. Hell, make the old crew minor antagonists, like the new crew sets out to remake the Saints and f’s it up so bad Gat beats them up and tells them they’ll never be real Saints, and then the rest of the plot you spend expanding territory and earning respect just to prove him wrong out of spite. That would have worked.
I somewhat understand why Zach is so irrationally upset with bad writing He's been in the entertainment industry for more than a decade now and a lot of his projects were shunned (until smiling friends) Basically it upsets him how such mediocre writing somehow gets a pass in the big leagues like triple A gaming while he had to scrounge up whatever assets he had to release something of his own
Its even worse when alot of the execs at this shows and games will sandbag good, profitable, and fun ideas into the ground or use it to get free money for themselves like Zach and Chris' show (Hellbenders) was not picked up by Adult Swin back in the day because they didnt want more then 1 or 2 shows with the word hell in the titles so him being upset and angry is more then deserved Also to add Zach and Chris do both take blame for how they pitched/did dealings with the show way back when but lets not pretend the execs helped in any way
if i recall, Smiling Friends very nearly didn’t get renewed after the pilot until the internet revolted. now it’s one of their primary show runners. people with money are stupid. sometimes you gotta knock their block off to get what you want
I usually don't like this take cause I think it's dumb to say you can't criticize capitalism if you make money, but this game does its social commentary so shittily, and has the balls to pull paid DLC and and other crap like that when they couldn't even muster to make a decent base game that's not half baked and glitchy as fuck, so shitting on it trying to preach about capitalism while actually embodying it is well deserved. This game right here is the true late stage capitalism at its shitest.
They tried really hard to make the protagonists some sort of Marvel hero type, because they cannot write gangsters doing gangster stuff. Remember how a bunch of crazy psychopaths the protagonists for Saints Row 2 were?
In SR 2, the Saint's newest recruit is skinned alive by getting dragged across tarmac from a rope connected to a truck going 20mph. For revenge, you kidnap and stuff the gang leader's girlfriend into the boot of a car at his very own monster truck rally, squishing her like toothpaste. SR 3/4/Hell/and the reboot's writing team aren't ballsy enough to emulate that level of brutality, in fact I believe they'll go as far to condemn it.
@@scrittlemoronic to say 3 or 4 weren’t allowed to go that far (the gatt goes to hell game is good too) there’s abortion jokes, brutal murder sprees, wrathful revenge killing sprees. you name it. The game at least does the humorous vibe respectfully and doesn’t let it dip into the serious moments. Where this game is garbage.
This just reminds me how hilarious Tomar is but he doesnt show his humor nearly as much as the other boys because he has to put 600% percent of his brainpower to focus on the game otherwise his ADHD would keep him at the tutorial for the next 3 hours.
ERM well yeah hard to focus on a video game , use your last 400% of brain power to talk with ya pals and constantly mentally sealing the tomar gemeralds residing quintillions of light-years away from becoming unstable
This game is so bizarre to me. It's so aggressively early 2010s with it's "le epic random waffles xD" humor and even the fashion of the characters with the nerdy bowtie guy and the girl with thick-rimmed glasses is super early 2010s, yet it also has the current "late stage capitalism, am I right fellas?" of today. I don't even hate social commentary, but this game's "social commentary" is on the same level of a tweet that says "retweet if you hate capitalism :(" it's just shallow and cheesy.
@@eightcoins4401 "all of them are business men who got their job out of sheer nepotism, so yeah" You should have been a writer for this game with witty insight like that.
I heard the game was written by like a couple of old white guys trying to pander hard to young adults, maybe it was just a meme but honestly it could either be that or exactly the hipster kind you'd expect given how out of touch this is, and the mental image of two dudes in their 50's trying to relate to the youngsters is pretty funny.
@@spidey5558 it's not that funny, all forms of criticism of the system exist within the system, problem is this game isn't particularly good at its criticism and their buisness practices perpetuate a bunch of capitalist bullshit, like dropping an half baked product at full price with DLC too.
@@dauntemesman8134 wtf I swear he was the one that originally said that, and I can even hear it in his voice but I just checked and your right, I feel like I dun just got berestain’d.
Zach was the cause of all the riots ever in recent history if you look very closely at still images dating back to the vavacious periodt you can clearly see a strange critter that resembles mr hadel nothing but the images remain as proof for sadly, each photographer that would have had evidence had there eyes and ear orafices melted shut and would mumble what almost sounded like some incomprehensive dialect when confronted those who questioned Mr hadel went missing shortly after with Mr hadel leaving a statement " whelp I'm retired and I'm green what can you do "
Sometimes I worry about the dialogue I write not being realistic or subpar. Then I see dialogue like "Erm, well that just happened!" and suddenly I realize if these people can get a job working on a video game with a budget higher than the GDP of most countries, I've got a shot.
Live, rent-free? Siiiiigh, I wish my non-binary polycule and my transgender bisexual self could live somewhere rent-free... with an open-concept kitchen to make soy lattes and vegan meals....
@@saturniidspectre (T-poses on a mat) Oh great spaghetti god in the scientifically accurate heaven, please let me and my seven chonkers live rent free in a freaking awesome place
@@rayvenkman2087 I mean they didn’t want that because they didn’t know how to write characters or stories, which is fine for the games they were making but don’t let bad games like these convince games with characters talking shouldn’t exist
It's just wrong man *takes big brown swig of dolarstore discolored ever clear* Mr. Millipede was like a dam brother to me. I don't care what any one has to fuckin say America has a fentanyl crisis.
Never did I imagine the resurrection of my favorite game series would really just be the ultimate burial via dialogue made to connect with literally no one
For anyone who cares, and is weirdly looking for info on an oney comp, Deep Silver volition was permenently shut down after the major failure that was “saints Row” (2022). This means that yes, deep silver as a publisher is now defunct as well after they merged with volition. It’s sad they don’t get another chance. But it’s been non stop flops from them lately.
There's more creativity and energy in that one stupid, dumbass line than this entire game. Zach hit the nail on the head- "Capitalism, AM I RIGHT KIDS?! I like waffles. Balls. BALLS!! (holds up spork)" for 40. straight. hours.
Well I mean it do be skreetin somethin hauntingly tick n buttery beautiful sometimes just stating facts and enjoying what God put on this good GREEN earth to be takin advantage of somtimes
@@ASpooneyBardIt's one of those capitalism is bad games that's milktoast and considered safe by the committee. None of the bite of RoboCop 1987 portraying the suits as ready to showup each other or the damning takes of Alien and Aliens where Ripley says Xenomorphs don't screw over people over a share. Zach showed one as a fat slob that would get misdentifed for ReviewTechUSA and making them have as much importance a job as a McDonald's manager who thinks he's the king while Scruffy the janitor is the MVP of the operation. The hacks behind this script would not know how to make a good critique of it if their lives depended on it. No guts to actually take on their corporate masters who loves them like a distant father raising a child to be in his image and only show pride for them when they stick to the template.
There is a genre of writer that desperately writes how they think clever writing sounds. So desperate to be quirky, smart, and adult that they blatantly reveal how childish and cookie cutter they are in reality.
Agreed, the same feeling when I see a Twitter bit, like do we have no other punchlines? The prefabricated “haha other thing that we already know sucks, sucks”
The worst part is that the protagonist in Saint's Row is voiced by Antony del Rio, so whenever I hear him I can only hear Pit from Kid Icarus or Chico from Metal Gear which makes it like ten times worse, lmao
Kid Icarus Uprising has some spork-esque writing here and there but it works in that game because the characters react in very entertaining ways to the “lol so random” stuff Like all of the 4th wall break jokes being contextualized as some sacred law that can’t be broken or else all hell breaks lose
*rings small silver dinner bell* Where is my Oneyplays compilation slave? Hellooooo? Little editor boy?? You better get your rumply keister back here before I keelhaul you, buddy. You're gonna wish you posted your own "Best Of Titanfall" starring Lyle skinning himself.
Ultimately, I don't blame gen-Z or the writers of this game. I blame the great Satan himself, Joss Whedon. Even in his diminished, disgraced state, his blight extends far and wide.
Yeah. It's just out of touch companies trying too hard to be relatable to a generation they don't understand. I would love to see some actual good representation for once... Maybe one day.
They definitely had an original idea for something (not a good one, mind you) and the suits definitely made them slap the Saints Row name on it to sell copies.
Allegedly it was going to be about gang-warfare like the original 2 games. But deep silver, in their infinite wisdom, forced them to change the game’s focus to “friendship”, I shit you not. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was fake, but holy shit, knowing deep silver’s blunders and how out of touch execs are, I wouldn’t be surprised.
People say this game target audience is millenials meanwhile Chris and most of the hosts are part of that generation and don't like it one bit. Same can be said for most Saints Row fans who played the originals
It's like Bomberman Act Zero but the damn thing is so fucking smug and full of itself that it denies you any entertainment of laughing at it trying to act cool while coming off stupid. We can laugh at that awful Bomberman for trying to be The Dark Knight Returns but this game? It's like it is trying to be Big Bang Theory and it gives off a strong "GTFO my damn screen you pile of turd. Go hang yourself and painfully." energy that just makes you feel deeply sour all over when they're around.
Millenial is just shorthand for "people I don't like". The oldest millenials are 45 and the youngest are 27. Most people complaining about millenials *are* millenials. This game was written by committee for a hypothetical demographic that doesn't exist.
I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again- they should make a “Best Of Bad Writing & Annoying Characters Compilation”. With how many visceral reactions they had to the writing in this game and Forspoken, as well as how they reacted to the corny dialogue of characters like Ethan Winters in RE Village, they have SO MUCH content to work with.
@@QTwoSix Reference to sweet baby inc, a consulting firm which was involved with several games, so a Brazilian gamer made a list of games that involved them so others could avoid, and the firm tried to cyberbully him off the internet
The most disturbing thing to me about this game is someone told me to play this game genuinely. I don’t think I can ever look at them the same way again 😅
The game developers have *never* been to the bad part of their town before, guaranteed. I know Saint’s Row is supposed to be a little zany, but these developers seem like they were extremely sheltered growing up, and therefore don’t have the slightest idea of how to write criminals.
How on earth can you try to say “capitalism bad” and then continue to have characters CONSTANTLY try to get money? Also, I don’t think you can say capitalism bad, and then put it in a product that costs $60.
We live in a capitalist society where capital is the only way to affect meaningful change within. Its just weird that the writers think that why we relate to Saints Row characters is because they are poor and ‘woke’ rather than because they are a power fantasy that often makes us laugh at how absurd and silly they can be in trying to emulate a ‘gangster’ vibe.
@@GraphiteShoresThis is a very overcomplicated explanation. I think the key point is that reddit tankies also tend to be the most materialistic people alive.
There should be more games where you can optionally be blind or deaf or wheelchair-bound and it completely alters the style of play I'm mostly joking, but imagine if they actually went through the effort of doing something like that instead of the usual surface-level shit like "Ooooh you can get a perfectly functional prosthetic that changes nothing about gameplay" "Oooooh you have a funny skin condition that makes you look like neapolitan ice cream"
I tell you smiling friends is a breath of the freshest air when you hear them have a proper conversation instead of layers of swearing. I mean I swear casually but HH and HOAB think swearing is edgy
Such a sad reboot that didn’t even try. Saint row was about the characters and the fun you have with them. I played this game and literally remember not a single interesting thing about this it. I just remember finishing it and that’s it. Rip saints row
I love how, instead of playing the most fitting song from the OST for each boss battle when you turn Licensed music off, it just plays nothing. Like, you'd think in that scenario, they'd just play whatever music they'd use in a regular gunfight, or maybe even create a grandiose version of whatever the usual action music is, instead of just giving you nothing. It's the least of this game's problems, but it seems like a fix that, for the easier solution of reusing another original track, would've taken 5 minutes to code in.
the censored pride flag around 9:27 omfg i'm in actual tears😂 why feature something so prominently just to fucking censor it???????? i hope everyone involved in this game has a great career outside of the gaming industry
It's similar to Disney boasting about having the first *insert minority* in a movie, only for them to be there for a second so they can be cut from the Chinese release.
In the same way that these characters can quote MLK and shit but literally are part of an organized attempt to enrich and gain power for themselves at the expense and destruction of those around them. If I wanted some dude to whine about ‘living in a capitalist society, brah’ I would rather just do NITW where at least the socialist whining is genuine and a part of the game rather than a clunky add-on to a game where the protagonist is willing to kill hundreds of people for ‘rent’ rather than just kill the landlord and start a revolution.
Thats honestly more funny and relatable when you said it, as opposed to the writer you were probably dancing for taking that line and putting it in the dead on arrival reboot of a once popular franchise.
As a guy who clips off the tips of his fingers with a nail clipper. It's actually not painful at all, you just get the outer layer of skin, it doesn't even draw blood
I haven't gone past the two second mark on this video yet because I am trying to gear myself up for the absolute shitstorm that is this game's dialogue.
This game was made for a target audience that literally does not exist
what happens when out of touch media execs think that twitter users are a faithful representation of the general public
Shortfatotaku actually interviewed one of the devs and it gives great insight into what went wrong with the game if your interested in digging deeper.
@@maninthemask6275 Imma look into that. Thank you.
@@maninthemask6275 yeah... but its SFO...
@@maninthemask6275 what noises did they make when they chugged their soylent
This game legitimately tries so hard to make the main characters likable and morally correct which is insane considering what these games’ legacies are.
It’s insane considering their actual actions in the game. “Derp! I am a violent political extremist but my ideas are in vogue and are considered more acceptable than other violent political movements for some reason! Time to go rob and kill a bunch of people I’ve dehumanized with a nebulous label, doink!”
@@OrchinX"haha we're so quirky, we're killing hundreds of people but we're the good guys! We can't afford rent!"
@@OrchinX”they’re of a different belief than i am there for it is okay for me to genocide them”
I fully understand making characters likable but making them super progressive hipsters is just insulting to the audience. It's possible to have characters be likable and not squeaky clean. Arthur Morgan still has redeeming qualities despite being an outlaw. The most egregious part for me is when the saints show mercy to a random civilian during the first robbery but ruthlessly kill cops who are just doing their jobs and going on rampage missions where you indiscriminately kill anyone in your line of sight.
@@Dalton_Boardman2000 Arthur Morgan was well aware of his ill deeds and as a result hated himself and believed he was doomed, only for death to wake him up and for him to redeem himself. The MC and their gang here are just written so desperately to come off as likeable despite being violent psychos because "well i dislike capitalism and my gang is multicultural so that justifies me", its pure slop
"Capitalism! I got stabbed with a spork! Doink!"
do you take your capitalism raw or late staged?
That's the first line if the Communist manifesto I think
Terminal capitalism @@bingusbongus9807
@@bingusbongus9807medium staged seems the best
SPPRRRRRROINK!!!!
I love Zach in this trilogy because he had to write an entertaining show with Smiling Friends, so he legitimately takes offense to this terrible writing in these games.
Lol it's so funny how angry he gets over the low effort dialogue/comedy because he actually knows how hard it is to make it.
@@Jasper_Silva exactly
@@planetzdrIt stinks of Current Hollywood Hollowness. Aggressively inspired by a popular thing and forcing an existing property with a crowbar to be that popular thing without understanding that you can’t just make a Batman out of a Superman and can’t make a Watchmen out of a Kingdom Come.
For a reboot, it pulls a Bomberman Act Zero but if it was written by Joss Weadon and going in the other creatively terrible direction. No stakes, stupid changes that adds nothing to the world, has little of the original’s heart or style that gave it an identity to begin with and giving you very little reason to get invested because the game can't be bothered to give a shit either.
@@Jasper_SilvaI guess that’s why he was in High on Life.
@@rayvenkman2087I want you to re-read that second paragraph, but imagine someone not knowing at least half of the references you're making. I'm not trying to demean but its legitimately incomprehensible to me, it reads like brainrot
The Venn diagram between desperate pandering and horrible stereotypes is a fucking circle.
That lady in deus ex fishing through the garbage for a perfectly intact hotdog
pandering is in every game with your types’ logic 😂🤓 boy who cried wold situation
@@Tw0Dots Actual schizo talk
It's what I don't get. In trying to make games that pander to the idea of what young people want, these out of touch weirdos make what I can only describe as bigoted mockeries of people with the personalities of bullies or idiots that spew exposition and talk like Marvel movies.
@ Exactly my point.
I found out lately that there's a thor comicbook series where he fight his corporate self who is slowly warping his mind and forcing quippy dialogues and banter in his mind and there's him having a mental breakdown while fighting and he is like "by OdIn, I can't think. what is happening to... WeLl ThAt jUst hAppEn. He iS behInd me iSn't He?"
what's it called lmao
@@cyrus2395 immortal thor
That's amazing
My favorite is Miles morales thor. "By odins Fade!"😂
Is this by Al Ewing, the same writer as Immortal Hulk?
I think my favorite comment when the trailer for this came out was that these guys are who the old Saints would beat up on sight
Run pockets for days.
Accurate as fuck
I remember also seeing someone saying that they were hoping the entire advertising was a huge 4D Chess move where the Reboot crew would show in the tutorial and gets wiped out by the OG Saints once the tutorial is finished and the OG Saints would go in to do real Gangster stuff. I really wished that was true.
@@TheGary108 honestly I think rebooting it with a new crew was the way to go, but make them, you know, still Saints. Not whatever this was. Maybe have the old guy show up as cameos and pass the torch or something. Hell, make the old crew minor antagonists, like the new crew sets out to remake the Saints and f’s it up so bad Gat beats them up and tells them they’ll never be real Saints, and then the rest of the plot you spend expanding territory and earning respect just to prove him wrong out of spite. That would have worked.
@@TheGary108 That sounds 10x better than this soyboy shit
I somewhat understand why Zach is so irrationally upset with bad writing
He's been in the entertainment industry for more than a decade now and a lot of his projects were shunned (until smiling friends)
Basically it upsets him how such mediocre writing somehow gets a pass in the big leagues like triple A gaming while he had to scrounge up whatever assets he had to release something of his own
Still blows my mind he made Smiling Friends, I still haven’t seen it tho lol
Its even worse when alot of the execs at this shows and games will sandbag good, profitable, and fun ideas into the ground or use it to get free money for themselves like Zach and Chris' show (Hellbenders) was not picked up by Adult Swin back in the day because they didnt want more then 1 or 2 shows with the word hell in the titles so him being upset and angry is more then deserved
Also to add Zach and Chris do both take blame for how they pitched/did dealings with the show way back when but lets not pretend the execs helped in any way
I don't think it's something that petty. Shit content can be frustrating without having to be jealous of it
@@HerohammerStudios that's literally what I just said
if i recall, Smiling Friends very nearly didn’t get renewed after the pilot until the internet revolted. now it’s one of their primary show runners.
people with money are stupid. sometimes you gotta knock their block off to get what you want
The best part is about the Saint's Row reboot constantly talking about capitalism is that it's a AAA video game that cost 100 million dollars to make
So true brother
And it looks like it was made in freaking 2013
I usually don't like this take cause I think it's dumb to say you can't criticize capitalism if you make money, but this game does its social commentary so shittily, and has the balls to pull paid DLC and and other crap like that when they couldn't even muster to make a decent base game that's not half baked and glitchy as fuck, so shitting on it trying to preach about capitalism while actually embodying it is well deserved.
This game right here is the true late stage capitalism at its shitest.
@@ginogatash4030Yeah, there are ways to use your money-making methods to effectively criticize Capitalism.
This is not one of them.
@@Terralncognita YES.
They tried really hard to make the protagonists some sort of Marvel hero type, because they cannot write gangsters doing gangster stuff.
Remember how a bunch of crazy psychopaths the protagonists for Saints Row 2 were?
Hell your character in the original Saints Row is even more psychotic.
@@FurryMcMemes In Saints Row 1 your character speaks like 4 times and every time it's something completely unhinged.
@@inurokuwarz Hope you don't mind hepatitis
In SR 2, the Saint's newest recruit is skinned alive by getting dragged across tarmac from a rope connected to a truck going 20mph. For revenge, you kidnap and stuff the gang leader's girlfriend into the boot of a car at his very own monster truck rally, squishing her like toothpaste.
SR 3/4/Hell/and the reboot's writing team aren't ballsy enough to emulate that level of brutality, in fact I believe they'll go as far to condemn it.
@@scrittlemoronic to say 3 or 4 weren’t allowed to go that far (the gatt goes to hell game is good too) there’s abortion jokes, brutal murder sprees, wrathful revenge killing sprees. you name it. The game at least does the humorous vibe respectfully and doesn’t let it dip into the serious moments. Where this game is garbage.
This just reminds me how hilarious Tomar is but he doesnt show his humor nearly as much as the other boys because he has to put 600% percent of his brainpower to focus on the game otherwise his ADHD would keep him at the tutorial for the next 3 hours.
Tbh most people will get distracted by the shit the gang says
ERM well yeah hard to focus on a video game , use your last 400% of brain power to talk with ya pals and constantly mentally sealing the tomar gemeralds residing quintillions of light-years away from becoming unstable
Tomar is the best third, other than Corey
@@dr.aisaitl7439Cory sucks
This game is so bizarre to me. It's so aggressively early 2010s with it's "le epic random waffles xD" humor and even the fashion of the characters with the nerdy bowtie guy and the girl with thick-rimmed glasses is super early 2010s, yet it also has the current "late stage capitalism, am I right fellas?" of today.
I don't even hate social commentary, but this game's "social commentary" is on the same level of a tweet that says "retweet if you hate capitalism :(" it's just shallow and cheesy.
Bad millennial writers stuck in the late 00's/early 10's.
This is the most accurate depiction of this game
In Courage the Cowardly Dog Voice: "OOOoooh, the things I do for rent..."
0:06 When you find out your Dad put that tumor in your Mom's head.
When you find out your dad put that tomar in your moms head
@@NateS917What?
@@underratedcorgi5660 When you find out your tomar put your dad in your mom's head
@@Destilightyou find out your dad put your mom in tomars head
Now, I know that *sounds* bad...
It's what a bunch of people who have never had to work think is relatable.
Games like this always are the results of what the executives demand - all of them are business men who got their job out of sheer nepotism, so yeah
@@eightcoins4401 "all of them are business men who got their job out of sheer nepotism, so yeah"
You should have been a writer for this game with witty insight like that.
I heard the game was written by like a couple of old white guys trying to pander hard to young adults, maybe it was just a meme but honestly it could either be that or exactly the hipster kind you'd expect given how out of touch this is, and the mental image of two dudes in their 50's trying to relate to the youngsters is pretty funny.
It's funny how, despite being a "critique" on capitalism, this game only exists because of it.
@@spidey5558 it's not that funny, all forms of criticism of the system exist within the system, problem is this game isn't particularly good at its criticism and their buisness practices perpetuate a bunch of capitalist bullshit, like dropping an half baked product at full price with DLC too.
“Man, these writers should go on strike to get paid better” - Mr Zach Oneplays official
Chris done said that
@@dauntemesman8134 wtf I swear he was the one that originally said that, and I can even hear it in his voice but I just checked and your right, I feel like I dun just got berestain’d.
@@bookertdewitt5630 get mathed, fool
This whole game should be considered a strike
Zach was the cause of all the riots ever in recent history if you look very closely at still images dating back to the vavacious periodt you can clearly see a strange critter that resembles mr hadel nothing but the images remain as proof for sadly, each photographer that would have had evidence had there eyes and ear orafices melted shut and would mumble what almost sounded like some incomprehensive dialect when confronted those who questioned Mr hadel went missing shortly after with Mr hadel leaving a statement " whelp I'm retired and I'm green what can you do "
As a failed writer, pieces of media like this make me so sad and angry
Yeah... I get it. It sucks.
Sometimes I worry about the dialogue I write not being realistic or subpar. Then I see dialogue like "Erm, well that just happened!" and suddenly I realize if these people can get a job working on a video game with a budget higher than the GDP of most countries, I've got a shot.
You've only failed once you're in the grave. If you're still breathing, you haven't failed yet.
@@inkchariot6147Even then, you could always have your work become popular posthumously.
@@inkchariot6147 based and hope pilled
The things we do for rent will always live in my head rent free
Live, rent-free? Siiiiigh, I wish my non-binary polycule and my transgender bisexual self could live somewhere rent-free... with an open-concept kitchen to make soy lattes and vegan meals....
@@saturniidspectre (T-poses on a mat) Oh great spaghetti god in the scientifically accurate heaven, please let me and my seven chonkers live rent free in a freaking awesome place
One of coward the courageous cats most iconic and beloved quotes shared through many family households " the things we do for rent"
@@stutterjones1821 hecking
@@stutterjones1821 language smh
The hatred Zach has for these games and their god awful dialogue is GOATED
It's games like these that makes you see the point in those old devs who didn't want talking characters early on because they'd be seen as lame.
@@rayvenkman2087 I mean they didn’t want that because they didn’t know how to write characters or stories, which is fine for the games they were making but don’t let bad games like these convince games with characters talking shouldn’t exist
"Buy a skill that makes the writers take a class in writing."
shoutout to the commenters that actually got offended when they made fun of saints row. One of the best commentsections on the channel
Can you post a screenshot and post it somewhere?
please tell me where i can find this, i need to see it
I’m offended by the fact that he can mock this terrible game, despite doing voice work in another terrible game.
@@_Cetarial Doing voice work in a game is not the same as making a terrible game.
@@chuxmecha6513Also that voice work was just about the only funny thing in a sea of annoying Justin Roiland stuttering.
Johnny Gat died for this?
Worse, he's a cop in a mediocre G.I. Joe single player hero shooter
It's just wrong man *takes big brown swig of dolarstore discolored ever clear* Mr. Millipede was like a dam brother to me. I don't care what any one has to fuckin say America has a fentanyl crisis.
OOoo Ooo ooo
He gat out of hell for this?
It's just wrong man Jonny G was like a dam brother to me I don't care anymore Imma say it this games got a fuckin fentanyl crisis
Never did I imagine the resurrection of my favorite game series would really just be the ultimate burial via dialogue made to connect with literally no one
"How does it feel to live long enough to see your favorite franchises go down in flames?"
"....feels great..."
Well fuck corpo shit
@@Majima_NowhereInternet superstar and heartthrob Rich Evans
10:03 Zach got so mad, he turned into Samuel L. Jackson.
For anyone who cares, and is weirdly looking for info on an oney comp, Deep Silver volition was permenently shut down after the major failure that was “saints Row” (2022). This means that yes, deep silver as a publisher is now defunct as well after they merged with volition. It’s sad they don’t get another chance. But it’s been non stop flops from them lately.
They had plenty of chances to turn things around but chose not to listen to ‘the haters’ so good riddance.
I guess if Volition is like, permanently dead then that means there'll never be another Red Faction game.
@@saturniidspectre hou saw saints row, do you HONESTLY think they won't just shit on Red Faction as well?
@@commanderbeepo8066 a girl can dream dammit
@@saturniidspectre no more dreaming girls arent allowed to hope for red faction games
Who's dialogue is worse the oneyplays crew saying tomars belly do excrete sometimes or saints row with it's private military corporation talk
There's more creativity and energy in that one stupid, dumbass line than this entire game.
Zach hit the nail on the head- "Capitalism, AM I RIGHT KIDS?! I like waffles. Balls. BALLS!! (holds up spork)"
for 40. straight. hours.
And then he burp and a big swamp bubble come outta him
Well I mean it do be skreetin somethin hauntingly tick n buttery beautiful sometimes just stating facts and enjoying what God put on this good GREEN earth to be takin advantage of somtimes
I dun seen it
@@ASpooneyBardIt's one of those capitalism is bad games that's milktoast and considered safe by the committee. None of the bite of RoboCop 1987 portraying the suits as ready to showup each other or the damning takes of Alien and Aliens where Ripley says Xenomorphs don't screw over people over a share. Zach showed one as a fat slob that would get misdentifed for ReviewTechUSA and making them have as much importance a job as a McDonald's manager who thinks he's the king while Scruffy the janitor is the MVP of the operation.
The hacks behind this script would not know how to make a good critique of it if their lives depended on it. No guts to actually take on their corporate masters who loves them like a distant father raising a child to be in his image and only show pride for them when they stick to the template.
There is a genre of writer that desperately writes how they think clever writing sounds. So desperate to be quirky, smart, and adult that they blatantly reveal how childish and cookie cutter they are in reality.
Agreed, the same feeling when I see a Twitter bit, like do we have no other punchlines?
The prefabricated “haha other thing that we already know sucks, sucks”
It's like they write nothing but punchlines to jokes they didn't even set up.
And the punchlines aren't even good usually.
i just love how the saints row character they made is just a 1:1 of that god awful hamilton oc
"Met God. She's black."
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD GOD ITS SO BAD LMFAO
Elaborate
I need details on this so called "OC"@@ld6000
Just missing the fuckin Hatsune Miku chest binder lmaoo
The worst part is that the protagonist in Saint's Row is voiced by Antony del Rio, so whenever I hear him I can only hear Pit from Kid Icarus or Chico from Metal Gear which makes it like ten times worse, lmao
Pit was a billion times better funnier.
@@vocalcalibration8033 All the writing in Kid Icarus Uprising was way funnier.
Kid Icarus Uprising has some spork-esque writing here and there but it works in that game because the characters react in very entertaining ways to the “lol so random” stuff
Like all of the 4th wall break jokes being contextualized as some sacred law that can’t be broken or else all hell breaks lose
Chico hasn't been the same ever since Camp Omega in MGSV:GZ
Thanks Scooty and don't apologize for having a life :)
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the love ❤
@@Scootstckyou BETTER apologize for having a life! When i say i want an epic oneyplays comp then that means i want it NOW
*rings small silver dinner bell*
Where is my Oneyplays compilation slave? Hellooooo? Little editor boy??
You better get your rumply keister back here before I keelhaul you, buddy. You're gonna wish you posted your own "Best Of Titanfall" starring Lyle skinning himself.
Love how bad this game is they rarely talk about it and just go “I blinch my self” beautiful
Ultimately, I don't blame gen-Z or the writers of this game. I blame the great Satan himself, Joss Whedon. Even in his diminished, disgraced state, his blight extends far and wide.
I personally blame leftist ideology infecting everything.
Yeah. It's just out of touch companies trying too hard to be relatable to a generation they don't understand. I would love to see some actual good representation for once... Maybe one day.
I blame zoomers
@@lingricen8077… what the fuck are you on about. Have you ever talked to anyone Gen-z in your pathetic life?
@@lingricen8077 Dude, you talk like you're 65.
They definitely had an original idea for something (not a good one, mind you) and the suits definitely made them slap the Saints Row name on it to sell copies.
Allegedly it was going to be about gang-warfare like the original 2 games. But deep silver, in their infinite wisdom, forced them to change the game’s focus to “friendship”, I shit you not.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that was fake, but holy shit, knowing deep silver’s blunders and how out of touch execs are, I wouldn’t be surprised.
@@Dr.OofersThey saw Watch Dogs 2 writing and thought it was a good idea
Made for BOC (Big Oney Commentary)
Beeple of color
Don't kill me don't kill me I'm a BOC!! 🙀
british ordcasting corporation
Botanical ovulation corporation
Blue Oyster Cult
I absolutely hate that non of the saints row characters use the mug handle.
17:56 this entire segment is just film twitter
Saints Row remake makes what Chico went through in ground zeroes look tame by comparison
Nah, Paz
@@remyrichardson8614 forgot about her. Only mentioned Chico because his voice actor voices the SR protag
@@chrisahearn789 this was the next part of the timeline that they didn't tell us about
This is the complete version of MGSV
Playing peace walker currently and didn't know that
People say this game target audience is millenials meanwhile Chris and most of the hosts are part of that generation and don't like it one bit.
Same can be said for most Saints Row fans who played the originals
It's like Bomberman Act Zero but the damn thing is so fucking smug and full of itself that it denies you any entertainment of laughing at it trying to act cool while coming off stupid. We can laugh at that awful Bomberman for trying to be The Dark Knight Returns but this game? It's like it is trying to be Big Bang Theory and it gives off a strong "GTFO my damn screen you pile of turd. Go hang yourself and painfully." energy that just makes you feel deeply sour all over when they're around.
It feels like it’s written by and for 40+ year old women who desperately wish they were millennial. .
Millenial is just shorthand for "people I don't like". The oldest millenials are 45 and the youngest are 27. Most people complaining about millenials *are* millenials.
This game was written by committee for a hypothetical demographic that doesn't exist.
I absolutely adore the main character is a cow printed kingcobrajfs, beautiful.
It's really sad that they foreshadowed Tomar being crushed by that 18-wheeler falling on him in a giant hole, in the Mojave Desert.:(
UA-cam thought this video was so important that it recommended it to me for the past four days, I'll find out soon enough...
it teaches you what not to do when writing dialogue
Zach’s indignation at the dialogue is beautiful
I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again- they should make a “Best Of Bad Writing & Annoying Characters Compilation”. With how many visceral reactions they had to the writing in this game and Forspoken, as well as how they reacted to the corny dialogue of characters like Ethan Winters in RE Village, they have SO MUCH content to work with.
We need a Saint’s Row Reboot, The Avengers game and Forspoken crossover NOW
Featuring Alex Yiik
Can you imagine how heckin cool the funko pops will be
Erm, that...will be honestly messed the freak up.
I doubt the men from OneyPlays can take it.
My head hurts after reading that.
Errrr hmmmmm hmmmmm I wonder if some of the same people were involved in all these games, they’re so similar!
Lmao makes it even funnier in hindsight knowing there was a common element that killed all of those. 😂
Some sort of delectable infant... No, such a thing is absurd!
At this point it feels like there's entire companies that are responsible for putting writing like this in, but that sounds kinda crazy!
✡?
@@QTwoSix Reference to sweet baby inc, a consulting firm which was involved with several games, so a Brazilian gamer made a list of games that involved them so others could avoid, and the firm tried to cyberbully him off the internet
Thanks Scooty!
Erm... these games happened 🥄
Is that a comically small spoon?
@@judahbarracuda_it's not the size, it's how you scoop it
DOINK!
@@judahbarracuda_ post meta ironically small spoon
"Ya know Pim I- I'm just in awe of the beauty we've created, it's really something special man"
9:45 he has no scar to show cuz all three times he got stabbed in his ass lmao
"Ooh, my chocolate soylent is so good"
ZE MEGA L
*AAAAUUGH!!!* 👹
5:11 I think about “I bleached my penis, dont tell anybody” pretty often
The most disturbing thing to me about this game is someone told me to play this game genuinely. I don’t think I can ever look at them the same way again 😅
The game developers have *never* been to the bad part of their town before, guaranteed.
I know Saint’s Row is supposed to be a little zany, but these developers seem like they were extremely sheltered growing up, and therefore don’t have the slightest idea of how to write criminals.
How on earth can you try to say “capitalism bad” and then continue to have characters CONSTANTLY try to get money? Also, I don’t think you can say capitalism bad, and then put it in a product that costs $60.
We live in a capitalist society where capital is the only way to affect meaningful change within. Its just weird that the writers think that why we relate to Saints Row characters is because they are poor and ‘woke’ rather than because they are a power fantasy that often makes us laugh at how absurd and silly they can be in trying to emulate a ‘gangster’ vibe.
@@GraphiteShoresThis is a very overcomplicated explanation.
I think the key point is that reddit tankies also tend to be the most materialistic people alive.
Venezuela IPhone Society
@@KToll5784and most willing to exploit labor funnily enough
@@GraphiteShores "Capital is the only way to affect meaningful change" Mfs when they discover [REDACTED]:
there are more video games where you can play as someone with vitiligo than there are actual living humans who HAVE vitiligo
There are more trans people online than in the real world. :D
@@shorewall there are more trans people than people with gender dysmorphia
@@shorewall I believe only about 10% of people who say they are trans online actually suffer from gender dysphoria so you may be right
@@shorewall more people that transition as padding to do horrible things*
There should be more games where you can optionally be blind or deaf or wheelchair-bound and it completely alters the style of play
I'm mostly joking, but imagine if they actually went through the effort of doing something like that instead of the usual surface-level shit like "Ooooh you can get a perfectly functional prosthetic that changes nothing about gameplay" "Oooooh you have a funny skin condition that makes you look like neapolitan ice cream"
Note to self:
Hire Zach for any project’s quality assurance
Y'all would go insane if you see Vivziepop's writing
I tell you smiling friends is a breath of the freshest air when you hear them have a proper conversation instead of layers of swearing.
I mean I swear casually but HH and HOAB think swearing is edgy
Vivziepop even has the attitude to match her cheap edgy writing: whiny and petty.
I think they're friends, they were at least on that one magfest panel together
@@pebuh6706 where tf did you get THAT from??
“I have a bad relationship with my father”
*has gay sex*
“FUCK!”
Good comp ❤
All things considered this game made them laugh a lot
Exactly. Yes it's terrible but it's HILARIOUS
Still the joke is on you if you actually paid for it
The bit with the four hockey sticks had me crying and wheezing with laughter
You can feel Zach’s anger rising with every second.
16:00 Chris has his Tucker moment.
Zach hates hazard pay like Nostalgia Critic hates casinos.
Saints Row 2022 is a gang crime game for insulated Twitter nerds that think words are violence
i legit think if it was Iron Man saying the "i just did that" i think people would say that it's quirky marvel movie dialogue
Zach's visceral hatred for this game's writing will be entertaining for the next thousand years
Zach has got to voice a character on smiling friends with his angry over the top German impression, it’s so good 😭😂
RIP Saints Row.
Saints Row 2 was great.
What about Saints Rows 3 and 4?
20:00-20:01 well now we know what Murderface sounds like, Hitler with a speech slur
I can't believe that he predicted the character from dustborn, all while making a horrible one...
Such a sad reboot that didn’t even try. Saint row was about the characters and the fun you have with them. I played this game and literally remember not a single interesting thing about this it. I just remember finishing it and that’s it. Rip saints row
I feel so bad for the poor programmers who had to make this
Don't. They chose to develop this abomination.
Their MC looks like a character from Dustborn.
It amazes me that a fantastic VA, like Greg Chun, was roped into this abysmal dialogue.
Zach’s character looks like he’s about to tell his friend not to come to school tomorrow.
I love how, instead of playing the most fitting song from the OST for each boss battle when you turn Licensed music off, it just plays nothing.
Like, you'd think in that scenario, they'd just play whatever music they'd use in a regular gunfight, or maybe even create a grandiose version of whatever the usual action music is, instead of just giving you nothing.
It's the least of this game's problems, but it seems like a fix that, for the easier solution of reusing another original track, would've taken 5 minutes to code in.
I am 100% certain ai could have written a better script for sure
the censored pride flag around 9:27 omfg i'm in actual tears😂 why feature something so prominently just to fucking censor it???????? i hope everyone involved in this game has a great career outside of the gaming industry
It's similar to Disney boasting about having the first *insert minority* in a movie, only for them to be there for a second so they can be cut from the Chinese release.
Simple. Rainbow capitalism.
In the same way that these characters can quote MLK and shit but literally are part of an organized attempt to enrich and gain power for themselves at the expense and destruction of those around them.
If I wanted some dude to whine about ‘living in a capitalist society, brah’ I would rather just do NITW where at least the socialist whining is genuine and a part of the game rather than a clunky add-on to a game where the protagonist is willing to kill hundreds of people for ‘rent’ rather than just kill the landlord and start a revolution.
When starbucks sipping hipsters become game devs this is the result
I sincerely thought that subclass of human died out, I haven’t heard that word in years outside of a life is strange lp
the amount of times I open this just to watch the first scene again lmao
I feel like this game and Velma have quite a bit in common
Volition died for this
They used to be good, Red Faction, Punisher
they really did Antony Del Rio dirty in this game.
I’ve been a fan of Saint’s Row for years and this remake legitimately hurts me.
iron man and marvel and its consequences for writing
Oh man, can you imagine how much better the game would be if they hired Zach to voice that character, then just let him improv whatever came to mind?
Okay but "the shit i do for rent" is unironically something i said once when i used to work as a stripper
Thats honestly more funny and relatable when you said it, as opposed to the writer you were probably dancing for taking that line and putting it in the dead on arrival reboot of a once popular franchise.
that sounds like a more fun game too
Charlie left smiling friends to start gaming
psychicpebbles
Chocolate Soylent will always be funny
15:27 for my own personal use, the Tim curry impression really tickles my brain
I wasnt expecting the mega L bit my fucking lungs
I think it's funny they made the main crew in the other saint's row games likeable and moral even though they constantly do heinous shit.
I love listening to Charlie’s commentary
As a guy who clips off the tips of his fingers with a nail clipper. It's actually not painful at all, you just get the outer layer of skin, it doesn't even draw blood
H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS!!!!!
I haven't gone past the two second mark on this video yet because I am trying to gear myself up for the absolute shitstorm that is this game's dialogue.
So forking good
The game dialogue is like going to any reddit thread, expanding all of the comments and just reading them
The game that put Saints Row on death row.