Mannlicher Model 1901 & 1905 Pistols
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2024
- The Model 1901 and 1905 automatic pistols were the final development of the Mannlicher system. In this iteration they used internal magazines, a straight walled 7.65mm cartridge, and a delayed blowback system in which the slide had to overcome a spring-loaded wedge before it could open.
The Model 1901 was a compact version with an 8-round magazine, and the 1905 was a larger frame with a 10-round capacity, although both use identical mechanisms. The guns were moderately successful on the commercial market, although the only military adoption of the design was form Argentina, which bought about 6,000 of the 1905 model guns. These were surplussed onto the US commercial market in the 1960s, and are generally distinctive for the bright spot on the right side where the Argentine crest was ground off prior to sale (although some have been refinished to hide this).
Both the 1901 and 1905 are very comfortable, sleek and elegant guns to handle and fire. For some high speed footage of an Argentine 1905 firing, check here: • Slow Motion: Steyr-Man...
To see a Roth-Theodorovic prototype pistol with a similar Tambour safety, check here: • Roth-Theodorovic Proto...
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Honestly if reproductions of the 1901 were made today I would carry it. It's simple, elegant, and the most beautiful gun I have personally ever seen.
Same. I don’t even have a license yet, but I’d get one just for this beauty (with grip safety and in a more common cartridge).
I've seen several in great conditions at gun shows for a very reasonable price. Some are even made in more common cartridges
@bootsontheground4913 how reasonable are the reasonable prices you saw?
Demonstrate the gun how it work
Very good design very good mechanism
dude whoever owns this fucking red table cloth has fucking cash man sooo many extremely rare guns
Heh...he has no cash; he has extremely rare guns. :)
That definitely tends to be the trade off.
he has no cash because of the guns,wait. . . the way you frazed that makes it sound like you own them. . .
Ian's trying to get me into Mannlichers. Guys I think it's working.
Ever since learning about these pistols, I've felt that these are the coolest-looking pistols ever.
For those asking about the button on the right side of the pistol, I believe that is how the unfired cartridges are removed from the gun. With the slide back, the button is pulled downward. This would move the cartridge interrupter down and out of the way to eject the remaining cartridges in the internal magazine.
Othais of C&Rsenal has an entertaining moment in which he accidentally does just this…right into his face.
So... many... Mannlichers...
I'm amazed you're able to track all those things down to do the video on them! You never cease to amaze me, Ian...
Wow, these are incredible. I'm surprised they aren't more well-known.
We're are you finding all these dam mannlichers!!!! (It's a glorious collection)
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I truly love the fact ya do these reviews on rare weaponry, I am an aspiring history teacher so all the information I gain could help me on my road to help teach the wonders of who we came to be. Yes I know history isn't that cool of a thing but I truly feel it's a vastly wonderful thing. I truly hope you have a great rest of your day and please keep making these amazing reviews.
Odhin's Grace im in the same situation. History is awesome man! Ive always believe that firearms are a inherit part of out history. As the quote from the weapons show gun Jesus's father was on "the firearm has been used by hero and villain alike the history of the firearm is out history" thats really rough because i cant remember it word for word.
I hope this UA-cam channel never comes to an end. It seems like it's impossible to cover all forgotten weapons.
Lovely curvature on those. =)
I can understand why people consider them elegant.
I was already impressed with the previous iterations of the handguns. Yet, these blow me away with how cool they look and their mechanical design.
Welcome to Forgotten Berglichers! Awesome video and collection!
I saw one of the Argentinean guns at the gun show in Louisville on Saturday. It still had the crest intact.
Ian, I learned from an old Russian gunsmith that if you take a STEEL cased AK-47 round and carefully cut off the front of the case just in front of the "neck",you can slide this into the chamber,allowing you to fire more readily available 32acp.rounds...only downside is that you are limited to 5rds instead of 10... definitely cheaper shooting.
The 1905 would for sure be the base for my Star Wars blaster
As I recall our mutual friends over at C&Rsenal did a video on this fine pistol (the 1905 to be more precise) a while back.
Shoots very well indeed, although it seems the best way to aim is to aim it like you would a sword instead of a pistol.
I can't like this video enough. I love this pistol!
The Saga continues yet again!
damn I really wish there were some reproductions of these around. I would love to have one, they're beautiful and look incredibly nice to shoot.
nicely done very clear variation! Great guns!! Thanks.
For me the most elegant pistol ever maded and the best at the same time is the swarzloze pistol
forgottenweapons please do a nerf gun review for april fools day
Omg yes
I think the clever thing to do would be to find a big, obnoxious-looking watergun, spray-paint it black so it could kinda pass for being made of metal, and make up an extensive backstory for this "forgotten prototype" weapon.
I like this pistol. It looks cool.
another great video, keep it up
14:00 That actually the Argentina national crest on it, not the army one. "R.A." stands for "República Argentina" (Argentine Republic).
can you do some old forgotten shotguns?
What a fancy Mannlicher! High class Mannlicher, with skill too! A true triple threat! 😎😂
Hmm, I just noticed there's something distinctly 1907 Roth-Krnka-y about the grip on this particular model. Was that shape just fashionable at the time, I wonder, or was someone copying someone's homework? :)
(I have no problem with that either way, I wish all handgun grips were like my Roth's. By far the comfiest pistol handle I know of.)
beautiful pistol
So we're going from Forgotten Bergmans to Forgotten Mannlichers? Lol
If Fireplace Guy has one of the prototype Mannlicher pistols made by Deutsch Rheinmetal, that would be a neat show&tell.
The grip safety and lanyard make me think "cavalry". Maybe the owner rode horses for a living and wanted the security.
It's going to be a sad, sad day when Ian runs out of forgotten weapons.
That will literally never happen
Channel could just move onto “remembered weapons”.
very interesting, thanks
Bergmans and mannlichers oh my
How slick.
beautiful!
how hard is it to replace the magazine spring, if it breaks?
👍 excellent, thank you!
Two 1901's please. One cased and one for every day use. Really like that side cover coming off so easily. I think these are just elegant good looking pistols. Simple is better. *BGM.41
Hunting injuns and outlaws. What use do you have for that AK in your backpack?
I have a 90 year old pistol that I carried for awhile. An Ortgies Deutschwerks Automatic Pistol in .32 auto. Only parts not original are the firing pin and striker spring, replaced for wear, and a replacement barrel to mate better with modern .32 auto ammo. Still have the original parts in case I ever decide to sell the gun.
Possibly the best shooter from my small collection of antique pocket pistols.
Could you possibly do a vid on dutch Mannlicher carbines? I hadnt heard About untill i did Some research on a old stripperclip i had laying around.
I wonder if this delay mechanism really worked because if you were able to pull the slide by the force of your hand that means that is not very stong.
It doesn't need to be super strong, it just needs to delay the opening of the breech until pressure has dropped, which happens quite quickly.
If you get any other delayed blowback firearm and have removed the magazine and cleared it, you can actually force the action open with a dowel down the barrel - RyeonHam and The Chap have both done videos demonstrating that in practice.
with that design of loading bullets can make gun with bigger bullet - still needs to be able to run a drum clip
How about the Smith & Wesson Model 41 sometime?
What is that slide thingy on the right side of the grip? Looks like a control of some kind.
How much was one of these in 1905 so as to compare with other priced guns such as webley, browning etc
What's the button on the right side where the wood grip meets the steel side plate ? I did not catch any mention in the video ..
Great episode, got to say i prefer the smaller framed version, especially the boxed one.
Why does the 1905 have the leaf spring? I though it was done away with in late run 1901's.
greece in ww2 used this guns...we have an large amount of them at the war museum in athens
Did the internal magazine and general layout influence the development of the Steyr Hahn at all?
9:11 Sunshine from a box!
They throw the expensive brass about 20 feet behind you.
A really elegant pistol. I put a 1905 in a short story I wrote. Why are modern pistols so ugly?
at 12:03 there is a faint marking on the side that reads Simpson LTD xxxx. What is that?
That was the importer.
I love how discreet Simpson's import markings are, as opposed to the ones that look like they were applied with a hacksaw (looking at you, Century).
What is that button on the right side at the grip do?
@Duncan Grove It will launch every round 10 feet in the air. :-)
Fucken beautiful.
No stocked variants?
Hey Ian just wondering what your opinion is on getting a Sks for a first gun. Do you have a specific source you'd recommend?
Hmmmm, no Forgotten Weapons T-shirt.
Do those cartridges in the presentation box have holes drilled in them?
Calum Spencer yes, I believe they're inert and for display only
What is the purpose of the catch just above the right grip panel? You didn't talk about it.
I think I remember reading that it was used to unload the magazine. (Or it might be the slide stop release.)
Thanks.
Ian what happened to the auctions?
There isn't one going on at the moment. Next up will be a James D Julia auction in mid April; video from there will begin in a few weeks.
cool! looking forward to more videos
Forgotten Weapons So what's the timeline on the Dinner plate 28, WA2000 and "Boris, let's give the krauts a run for there money with the AN-94?
The DPM will be on the 7th and the Walther on the 8th. Don't have the AN94 scheduled (or edited) yet.
Forgotten Weapons I also thought you had something recently that had to do with the EM-2 rifles
hey Ian, at 12:02, on SN 2202, what is the text on the frame (or the slide) that says "Simpson LTD....."
That's an importer's mark, as required by US law.
What was the Argentine military using prior to adopting the 1905?
As an argentinian, as far as i know we didn't have any pistols prior to the 1905, or at least i couldn't find anything
i have a non-mannlicher question, why do some Swedish Mausers have bent bolt handle and some doesn't?
azkrouz reimertz guns with straight bolt handles are hard to mount a scope not sure if this is the answer tho hope it helps
You dont show how to loud the gun
An elegant weapon from a less civilized age.
how do the bullets fit in that small gun??
Can you tell me where to buy ammo's for this gun? or which ammo's can i remake for this?
Gun broker at $1.00 per cartridge. Or customized brass from Buffalo Arms.
dope
i'd conceal carry it!... if they made these in conventional cartridges :(
What is that switch/detention thing on the upper right side of the grip do? for dump the magazine or something?
jpkosoltrakul They have no magazines. You mean empty the stack out the top? Probably.
Well, technically, they have fixed magazines. And yes, mean that.
Can anyone find ammunition for these wonderful guns?
Modular Mannlicher???
Why would the argentine army want to ground off their crest?
Dylan Kwak I suspect because they wanted to make sure it was visible that it was no longer a military service pistol, but had been decommissioned and sold to the private market.
If the people who buy the surplus guns happen to be criminals or guerilleros, it wouldn't be very nice for the Argentinian republic to have official government markings on their weapons, I suppose...
My guess would be that the crest was used as evidence of government ownership, and grinding it off indicated legitimate sale.
Thanks Guys for the info,
makes the pistols even cooler!
Gyrffos sadly we have some history involving illegal blackmarket gun sales.
My education continues.
At 12:02 to about 12:06 you can see "Simpson Ltd...."
interesting
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dat curve...
I hate people who talk too much
es heibt mann licher auf deutsch