YOU NEED TO SEE THIS! Nightwish - The Poet & the Pendulum REACTION
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By singing this song Floor proves that she is much more versatile and much better than Tarja could ever dream of. Tarja could not have done what floor did on this song. Nightwish exploded after Floor joined, so Tuomas did the right thing.
I might buy a coffee in beginning of coffee. And bounce of ideas that you haven't react. It'll Mos likely Arch Enemy, Without Temptation or Nightwish.
@@janihaavisto79 you're welcome to. :)
I'm still watching the video, so sorry if you mention this later on, but the bit before your ad was a bit confusing to me: is this a fresh reaction or you did react to the song earlier and then lost the footage, meaning that you already knew the song during this video?
This performance of "The Poet...." is legendary among Nightwish aficionados. The originals, with Marko singing the lead parts and then Anette doing them (in the studio - not live) are fine in and of themselves but Floor elevates this version to a whole new level. I honestly don't believe anyone could better portray the emotions Tuomas intended better then Floor has.
I concur with every word of this.
Anette sings this like a pop song. Floor's performance is both heart-breakingly beautiful and at the same time, a sledgehammer to the soul. Only Floor is able to convey the emotional message in this masterpiece and wreck your soul with it.
@@WardDorrity Annette sings most things like a pop song, that is her style (unless it's changed not familiar with her more recent stuff).
In fairness that was part of the reason they chose her they wanted a different sound and I think the albums with her are still the most commercially successful.
Personally I prefer Floor's version of pretty much every Nigjtwish technical prowess aside song I feel she brings more emotion and expression to it than the other singers did.
Only 62
Anette most of the things had done in the studio. She can't perform live. Nope.
When Tuomas had Tarja
He had a Stradivarius
When Tuomas had Anette
He had a Steinway
Tuomas now has Floor
He now has the whole freaking Orchestra
PP is very emotional. 64 years old here, and I discovered them by pure chance a couple of months ago when the algorithm suggested that I watch the 2013 performance of GLS in Wacken ... I got HOOKED! I'm now super addicted to their music, their performances, Floor's voice, and the many reaction videos out there ... their music/compositions are divine. I'm definitely a full-fledged member of the Nightwish Army ... this band and their masterpieces are life-changing ... hope one day I'll see them live ...
66 years old here, though I heard Marko sing Islander on the official video when it came up when I was looking for evanescence, while I loved that the rest of the music just didn't grab me. Then a year ago I heard Floor sing GLS at the 2013 Wacken and was hooked, and on 1st December I went to see them in Dusseldorf with my wife, excellent concert and my wife who is not a Nightwish fan at all was blown away by the whole experience and wants to do it again but she says she is still not a fan of Nightwish 😁
Snap. I am another who succumbed to Flooradulation through Wacken 13 GLS. In my case, jan22. Keep to your hope. Self, wife and daughter saw the Goddess and her band of brothers, Nov 22 Birmingham. WOW!
@@Alicatt1 ‘Wacken 13 GLS’ says it all.
im 57 discovered them through sabaton now hooked like you!
This sounds like my Nightwish story. I just saw them live for the first time. What a life changing experience. You must see them live. You will not feel like an old guy in the crowd. There are fans of all ages at Nightwish shows. From 10 to 70 years old all around me as I watch in awe.
The FBI should use this song to identify psychopaths, because the person who is not moved by this masterpiece is already dead and doesn't know it
Great point!!
20:30 Notice when the boy says “Now I only have 3 minutes and counting” it’s exactly 3 minutes until the next part “Mother and Father” starts. Just mindblowing how Tuomas wrote this.
Tuomas “cuts his head off” exactly three minutes after the boy says that.
It’s mind blowing how Tuomas is able to puzzle together the song to make the pieces fit so perfectly together to be able to get that timing.
He truly is a genius!
@@MrDempmeister I srsly read that as "mind bowling"
I mean, TECHNIACLLY...
"I cannot die cos the shoulder cries more". There's no "no" in there, intentionally. The shoulder that cries more is possibly the other band members and Tuomas feeling unable to further burden them with his pain when they are dealing with their own.
This is my interpretation aswell. And it fits with my impression of Tuomas as a very empathetic person.
Think the same thing. Cannot cry because the shoulder I would lean on, is also crying.
Floor Jansen is tall, strong, mysterious and majestic as an Amazon warrior queen who leads her legion of fans from the stage.
Emppu wasn't just chatting with Tuomas, he was asking him if everything was okay. Tuomas has always played this song with difficulty, it reminds him of a very bad time. Soon after Emppu tells the others that everything is ok. At the end of the song Marko and Emppu are close to Tuomas to comfort him and Floor, after the song, before thanking the audience, turns to see if Tuomas is okay. This song probably won't be performed by Nightwish anymore, Tuomas said that they are all changed now, times are different and there is no reason to perform this song anymore
LMAO, you buy that BS? He's played it like 500 times live, it's all part of the act.
When was the last time? If he still plays it , tell me which concert.
@@artohumppi1855 Actually according to Setlist FM, they've placed it 215 times, I've seen them pay it 2x. Also, how many times did they play it in rehearsals?
@@NPK476 After the tour that the Wembley concert was a part of, this song has been played exactly zero times. That's over 6 years and almost 150 concerts without performing this even once.
So yeah, I really "buy that BS".
@@NPK476 And who will sing Marcos part? Troy? Get out of here.
Hi, 55 years, just a year ago i heard from nightwish only because floor came along on dutch tv. I was blown away, the whole band is an experiance...it helps me find hidden emotions, so easier for shadowwork and i never sang outloud because i really have a terrible voice, no joke, but i stepped out of my false comfort zone and daily sing along with nightwish or i performe for my dogs. They dont care when i sounds like a crow..they enjoy the attention.
I feel you. Floor is amazing and her voice make us feel a bunch of emotions. Love to 'sing' too! Sending love from Canada.
Hey I just few years younger age wise, and well discovered Nightwish through a UA-cam reaction video. then I managed to see the tv show Beste Zangers, blown away, and so from the reaction were the fellow Dutch singers. Now I have Nightwish albums, an After Forever album in my collection, plus a digital recording of Floor’s solo tour.
Experiencing this performance of Poet and the Pendulum was literally lifechanging for myself. Tuomas Holopainen shared some of his deepest emotions and pain which allowed me to heal and process my own pain. Eternally grateful to Nightwish.
I can see why that would be the case and I am glad you have been able to heal. I think you will greatly enjoy this video then. :)
@@rosalieelliottofficial I can´t wait for it :)
You are not alone...
@@NickBR57 So true.. :)
The gossip about Tuomas' "unrequited love" for Tarja is absolutely far-fetched and has no basis. Tarja started dating Marcelo (and later married him) many years before her dismissal and the real reasons for the split are described in the official biographical book of Nightwish and according to various participants of those events, were more related to business:
The problems began when Tarja decided to completely entrust the management of affairs on her behalf to Marcelo, and he became her personal manager and a full-fledged representative in the band. He began to aggressively interfere with the work of the band's management, set radical conditions and in the end it began to look like he was "renting out" Tarja to Nightwish, blackmailing the band to fulfill his conditions or Tarja won't perform. This, as well as the obvious loss of Tarja's interest in the band (she didn't hide that she planned to record another album with Nightwish, and then leave the band for a solo career), led to her dramatic dismissal.
Also, the meaning of the song doesn't refer to the breakup with Tarja itself, but more to the subsequent period of time, when tons of hatred in social networks poured out on Tuomas from the angry Tarja's fans and the music press "buried" Nightwish, refusing to believe that the band has any future without Tarja's unique voice.
EXACTLY! It's really sad how fans and media put all blame on Toumas which lead him to even deeper depression. Yeah he was heartbroken because his close friend and bandmate (Tarja) betrayed him like this but all of blaming from in the time "Nightwish fans" hurted him even more.
The end of this song, the Mother and Father part, always makes my eyes moist. As much this is Tuomas' masterpiece this is also Floor's masterpiece. She elevates this song into heaven.
I do not care about the original meaning, this song is about desperation and family, about loneliness and friendship
This is one of the great performances of all time. Not just of this song, or in metal, but ever in music ever. The composition is deep, the vocals are tight and purposeful, there's no missed note or beat, even the stage show components are perfect, and to do it live is so phenomenal.
The words are "I cannot cry ?cause the shoulder cries more" meaning he can not cry on someone elses shoulder, because they (the band, the fans) are already crying more. Which is why he felt so alone. Really not sure that you understood this song fully, but that is fine because you are coming to this with your own beliefs, and this is your take on it from that viewpoint. Quite natural to try to place the lyrics into a setting you can feel comfortable with. Have you ever read The Pit & the Pendulum by Edgar A Poe? The story plays into the lyrics of this song greatly, and the knowledge of that enhances the understanding of the lyrics.
After experiencing The Poet many many times, I only ever watch it now on genuine reactions like yourself. It affects me emotionally every single time. The connection between this song, the band and even the fans is magnetic 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have listened to/watched Poet many many times, and there hasn’t been a single time where I didn’t shed a tear🥲
This song was originally written before Anette joined the band and it is sung by Anette in the album version. There had been greater use of the choral and boy soprano elements in the album version, but Floor took on the boy soprano role in "Sparkle my scenery" where she sang in a very light, almost fragile head voice. The choral elements are also more restrained and background to Floor. When the boy soprano says "three minutes and counting" exactly three minutes later, Tuomas slices his throat.
I may have missed it in your reaction, but were you aware that this song draws from Edgar Allen Poe's short story "The Pit and the Pendulum". It's a story about psychological and physical torture where a descending, bladed pendulum threatens to slice up the protagonist who has been tied to an "altar".
Oh, finally back to Nightwish, and how I had been waiting for you to react to this one, mostly to hear what you have to say about it!!... and also because it means we're one step closer to seeing your reaction to "The Greatest Show On Earth," which to me is the epitome of a masterpiece. As much as I love your other reactions, please don't make us wait too long!!
Please note how the group looks out and after Tuomas during this performance and the run on the bass Marco does in his part without looking is insane . Composition masterpiece .
:) stay tuned. I think you’ll like my thoughts on the bass part…
Emmpu is checking on Tuomas
And Floor looks at Tuomas tenderly for a long time when the song is over.
The end part is the most emotional for the group I think. Look at how Tuomas, Marco and Empuu stand together, facing each other. And then the look Floor gives Tuomas in the end is so full with compassion. This is so beautiful to see.
Very personal song for Toumos . Tarja and Toumos were OG Nightwish you could say like family. It deeply affected him and still does . Not like the Bye Baby Baby written for Annette.
This songs backstory is deep and dark, especially for Tuomas (suicide by song). And yet, Floor took this song to a new astral level (originally sung by Anette). Also, I recommend reading "The Pit and The Pendulum" by Edgar Allan Poe for extra flavor.
The reason for Tuomas’ depression was not the firing of Tarja itself, it was what came after that. The fans idolized Tarja and they could not accept the fact that she got fired (Yes, she got fired). In their heads Tarja was the one that made the band famous, and they became really angry and hostile, especially towards Tuomas. They really took it out on him. They called him all kinds of ugly things and a lot of them expressed that they did not care if he would die.
Even the prime minister of Finland got in on the act. It was headline news.
These are the things that brought him into depression, and these are the things that echo through the lyrics... I have a Ton of facts about this, but my utmost respect for Tuomas, Tarja and Nightwish, I will not put these things in here!!!!!!!!
This song has the most emotional impact, at least for me... I was that that "Bastard" who abandoned Nightwish after Tarja left...Never Again !!!!
Although I love this song (Especially this version), it is the only song, I can't put to my playlist... because, I break down to tears every single time (Current reaction included...).
This masterpiece will remain a reminder to me for my narrow mindlessness.
Tuomas IS NIGHTWISH 🤘😎🤘.
NWSU.
Timo, what a beautiful comment. I have had that realization about myself in my long life, and it's certainly not easy to come to that conclusion, let alone admit it. As a writer, I understand Tuomas and his mechanism for pain. I describe my poetry as the release of my venoms. Anybody reading most of it would think I was a depressed person, and I'm anything but ... for I release it all in my words. I've never been a fan of Tarja, in fact I stopped listening in the early days because I do not like or appreciate opera, and that was her lane. I lost so much time listening to Nightwish because of that, and found them again about four years ago. They are now my all-time favorite band, and Tuomas is, in my opinion, the greatest composer of my lifetime. We are in the same boat, we might be for different reasons, but we both lost time loving and appreciating this incredible collection of musical geniuses. But we now stand together, and I appreciate that fact. Thank you, my friend, for your moving words.
@@chadbennett7873 You are most welcome!
Timu, time to forgive yourself, dude. Enjoy Nightwish, in the purity of the present.
For me, the darkest part of the lyrics is "friends [...] spitting on his grave" because true friends should be there when you most need them. I think that's the ultimate betrayal when they only come after your death and even then just despise your grave.
The beginning is “The End” and the end is “The Beginning”
31:00 Floor’s vocals at the end are simultaneously both “comforting” and “heartbreaking”. To me they sound like a Mother’s wailing for her son. 😢
So after the entire video, there was something not many catch on to...
After the heart stops beating you see Marko, Emppu, and Floor sitting in front of the drummer who is fitting because he's sitting as well. That visual was designed that way to show a moment of mourning for the "dead" poet.
Also, Marko and Emppu went over to make sure Tuomas was ok.
This was the last time this song would be played live as this performance was exactly how Tuomas envisioned it to be.
Great analysis and as a psychologist, you touched on every point of the song quite accurately.
Thank you for the video, reaction and comments. Stay safe and stay blessed.
😊❤️🤘🤘
The song had been played many time after this show on the Decades World Tour. The performance is from the previous Endless Forms Most Beautiful World Tour.
@@mikkolaine4883 Ok. lol 👍
@@mikkolaine4883 My google-fu isn't good enough to dig up any kind of setlist or other source for that. Where did you get that info from?
The White Lands of Empathica reference comes from the Stephen King book series "The Dark Tower". The reference for the "Shoulder Cries More" refers to the fact that he cannot go to his bandmates because they are also dealing with the pain of the attacks on the band. The two faces reference is the Tuomas that the public sees versus what he feels and prays to God. Three minutes reference is exactly how long the section "Dark Passion Play" lasts. Finally the last section to me is a Mother's lament over the death of her child. The Child singing is indeed a young boy who is a member of the London Youth Choir. Floor offered to sing this portion, but Toumas preferred to keep the original.
This song is not often performed live, when it is often Tuomas has the vocals taken out of his In Ears, yet you can see he is singing every word, it is so deeply meaningful to him, it marked a difficult time in his life, some of the lines are actually from a conversation he had with his Mother after the parting of ways with Tarja, it affected him strongly as they had been friends for such a long time. Floor really does a fantastic job of showing just how powerful and emotional the lyrics are. A few times you will see either Emppu or Marco checking on Tuomas, and the three of them finish the song almost huddled together, Floor also looks to Tuomas before quietly whispering Thank You at the end. It is so powerful and full of meanings, it always touches me and brings a tear, perfection!!
one of best song with Floor
Rosalie .. wow .. you are so beautiful today!
She's beautiful every day
I thought I was watching the home shopping network at first.
The fact is, that Nightwish is Tuomas'es creation and he composes, arranges and create the Lyrics - the other great musicians or vocalist are there to perfect and perform the songs, but Nightwish'es heart is Tuomas! So if Tuomas wants to hire or include any vocalist to perform his art, then he will do it no matter what the fans or so called experts think about it. Tarja and Anette were there for a time being and songs were created then for them to perform, but NOW Tuomas wants to work and perform with Floor and has said that Floor is the OPTIMUM and Best fitting singer for his creations and Nightwish - so you weepers who want something else or older singers back, nobody cares about your wining and Tuomas will decide by himself who will be the vocalist performing his creations, sorry, but the world does not work like the individuals behind the keyboard want to - fed up with the wining, all 3 vocalist are exceptional in their own styles that cannot be compared directly by layman ears and knowledge. Peace!
I look on the female lead singers as his muses and like all intense relationships eventually they wane as the intensity cannot be maintained. Tuomas has said that if Floor leaves it will end Nightwish and given their ages that would make sense but I haven't found any evidence of the other OPTIMUM etc... Floor is the current lead and a fantastic singer and that is enough for me. I appreciate that a lot of people have strong feeling towards one or another of the singers but you are doing exactly what you accuse others of doing, ye olde pot and kettle situation. Maybe you realised this given your last line...likewise peace 🤣
Hey beautyfull!!!! This is a hard song for Tomas. When Empuu talks with him, he's checking that his friend is fine. Good reaction. Greettings from Argentina
38:05 It's "the shoulder cries more," not "the shoulder cries no more". I think it means that he doesn't have a shoulder to cry on because others are crying too. Perhaps also meaning that Tarja used to be his shoulder to cry on but now she cried more (as someone else mentioned in another comment).
If you listen carefully you can hear heartbeats after.the surprise.
OMG finally another excellent reaction to this masterpiece and not just nonsense. Thank you so much Rosalie. This song means a lot to the fanbase and of course even more for those band mates still in the band.
A few thoughts that came to my mind during this reaction.
1. No need to pick sides (Tarja, Floor, Tuomas, Marco or even Marcello). That doesn't change anything for the feelings Tuomas felt back in the days. Of course Tarja has her own feelings and she could express them, which she did in her letter. She was free to do it in any other way as well (interviews, songs, ...). Still this masterpiece expresses the struggle Tuomas had with that situation and it is just a very, very rare thing to witness that kind of feelings from anybody. It is done so beautiful that many other people struggling with situations like this or maybe in different situations can relate to the emotions. And that makes this piece a really valuable and educational message.
2. No first hand knowledge but I was told, that Floor offered to sing all 3 boy soprano parts during that performance. Yet Tuomas made the decision to keep the first part from a backing track as it was in the original recording.
3. check the video, when the lyrics say "3 minutes and counting". The metaphorical suicide is exactly 3 minutes later in the song.
Thanks again for the effort and time you put into this reaction
GreeZ
Always like the ending where just as Floor says Thank You she turns towards Tuomas and other band brothers standing together. To me she is saying thank you to them and fan's, as she had experienced this Pendulum path as well with ending of her previous band. Then came the phone call from Nightwish.
A quick sidebar -- I'm pretty sure the line "cut in half - infanticide" is a reference to Solomon in that whatever decision he took, whether to live or die, had a bad outcome.
Nightwish music is quite powerful these guys are professional musicians so heavy such a wonderful orchestral sound talk about being in a class by themselves
That last movement of P&P leaves me in tears EVERY. TIME. And I'm your quintessential metalhead.
This was a FANTASTIC reaction and analysis of this masterpiece!!!!! Especially w/ Floor and the boys live at Wembley!!!😍
This song really is a masterpiece. 28:03 And that's exactly the gesture that Tuomas did. Also notice that in Home Floor is _sitting down._ That never happens.
Empu is a person to control emotions in the band where they are going out of sight.
The pendelum is taken from Edgar Alan Poes "The pit and the pendulum". The Pendelum swings and with every swing it descends to the fixed body below as a torture and scaring death.
Emppu and Tuomas are not chatting socially. Emppu is checking if Tuomas is okay because it still touched him a lot.
Just knowing the backstory makes this song just so powerful in every sense. Floor does an amazing job with singing. Her and Marco together is so impressive. Tuomas sure knows how to write a classic! If you didn’t notice look at the “3 minutes and counting” to the time he ends it with the end of that section where he did the slice across the neck! Just an amazing performance all together
Thanks Rosalie for the all NW reactions and all lyrics breakdowns!
One thing about this song. Lyrics are: "shoulder cries more". No "shoulder cries no more", what I hear you read. Many says it means that he has no anyone to comfort him because others suffered already so much.
I really wait you to dig in to "Greatest show on earth" song. I hope you listen that too. :)
Have a fruitful, great and successful y 2023!
Floorgasms are a part of life. You got the essence of the piece, and lets not forget Floor is in a leather corset...sitting down, while hitting notes most of us croke on.
10,000 listens always tears from the Deep/
I respect them all, I love them all. Never going to take sides because I don't think they would want that.
You've Said it ALL Rosalie ⚘💜💥☘🙏🏼
Good analytical reaction... I cry every time I listen to this song.. it's such a emotional roller coaster
The demo version was recorded between Tarja and Anette eras, with no female vocalist in the band, so Marko sang the whole thing. Some of the lyrics were changed.
In the demo version, (would have been very harsh words for a choir boy to read, but he was not in the demo, Marko did the reading):
Would you like to rape my rotting carcass?
Dissect my heart?
Desecrate my rest?
It would make you come, wouldn't it?
In the final studio version it was replaced with, (still harsh, but not quite as harsh):
I'm afraid, so afraid
Of being raped again, and again, and again
I know I will die alone
But loved.
Also in the demo version: "In the year of our Lord 2007, Tuomas was called from the cares of the world." In the final version: 2005.
In 2005 Tarja was fired, 2007 the album Dark Passion Play was released.
glad you filled in the gaps of what I was going to say! Thank you!
This was my introduction to Nightwish….the first song of theirs I ever heard & it just blew me away! From then on, I searched high & low for every song, every interview, anything I could find of theirs & have been a huge fan ever since! I’ve listened to this song so many times I’ve lost count & i never get tired of hearing it, I still cry during certain parts of it. Tuomas is a master, definitely a metal Mozart as he’s been described as by so many. I love all kinds of music but Nightwish is definitely my #1. Oh, when you see Emppu up seemingly just chatting away with Tuomas, he actually was checking on him asking if he was ok. 😊💜💚
Well done!
Thank You!!!!
🇬🇧 Norfolk reporting for duty strapped in and ready listen to this masterpiece
Every single time... Every single time my eyes tear up. Even if it's a reaction video. There are so many beautiful hints in this masterpiece. It's really hard to catch them on a first listen. For example the first phrase of the song (boy soprano) is 'The end' and the last phrase is 'the begging'.
'Now I only have 3 minutes' and there are exactly 3 minutes before the blade gets Tuomas.
About the 'shoulder cries more'. The shoulder is the rest of the band that cries too and can't really comfort him.
So many emotions...
Your analysis was amazing!
Greetings from Greece 🍻
Happy new year!
Same here...
I had to put this song on my "Don't listen in public" playlist, it makes me so emotional. I can't have it randomly popping up in the grocery store or whatever.
Tuomas wrote this and also "Bye Bye Beautiful" and "Master Passion Greed" all those to the theme of Tarja to leave. He almost ended NW then. Fortunately not - the beginning. This was the first song for Anette to sing on the album. In here they do this live performance so well. Tarja and Tuomas were friends from teenage ages and together with Emppu founded Nightwish. They were like a family at their best (including Jukka). The first album and demo they made just three of them. They grew up together in all possible ways and formed the whole NW concept and made the leap from a school camp fire band to the leader of the symphonic metal genre and mega band globally. I think Tarja was a kind of a muse to Tuomas ...check the early era songs and lyrics of them. After 2005 the main theme changed, imagination and natural sciences....By the way...it is just 3 minutes between the words and the blade to hit Tuomas...note the perfect timing.
A lot of this song is mostly based on the fans reactions to the dismissal of Tarja from the band. I’m even shedding a few tears during the ocean scene and words. 😢 The hand gesture by Toumas was timed exactly at the 3 minute mark when the pendulum dropped! 💀
Floor left everything on the stage for this song, as did every single member of the band. Rosalie, I really think this was your best reaction yet! This song has so much meaning behind it, and you really broke it down. There so many subtle things in this performance ... from Emppu checking on Tuomas early on, to them starting the last section sitting on the drum stand, to Marco going over to the keyboard stand where the three members of the band who fired Tarja stand together in support of each other. You're getting better with each reaction, I really think you've found your comfort zone and I'm proud of you! Thanks for sharing this.
Empu was asking Tuomas if he was ok , and Tuomas replyed yes , and them Empu turns to the crowd and tells that Tuomas is ok !!!
The producers of the record hired a child soprano to do the act one solo. Because this boy was a minor, his name was not published with the album info. On the live version Toumas is using the actual vocal track from the studio.
This is what Our past Nigtdreamers Reactiside belowed Ann Waychoff wrote just before she passed away. I saved it as a instructions for reactors. Don't mind poisonous or rub it in opinions"
"Obituary of Ann Carone Diamond Waychoff
Ann was born on April 2, 1954 in Oil City, PA, a daughter of the late James and Sara “Sadie” Straub Carone. She was married to James Waychoff on August 9, 1986 at Cherrytree.
"ANN WAYCHOFF'S FINAL MESSAGE TO REACTORS: "
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"I have been a fan of Nightwish, Floor - all of them, for
an amount of time that seems like an eternity. But I notice
a lot of people are doing them all wrong, to me. They embrace
Floor as she should be, she is what is best for Nightwish
because she is so versatile. What frustrates me, is the
amount of people throwing in requests for Floor.
So many people in the "Nightwish Army", or whatever, ignore
Anette and Tarja, and all the work they put into the
studio albums. Not everyone, but enough... too many
to be comfortable with.
If I was to say anything to people, to the people doing
reactions, it is to be original. You don't have to listen
to everyone and be the performing... whatever... in the
circus. You don't have to be. There is over 100 songs in
Nightwish's library, and so much studio work that goes
unnoticed that it's almost infuriating. Now don't get me
wrong, I love Floor, but Nightwish is to be experienced for
everything that it is. Tarja, Anette, Floor, Live, Studio...
it's all their history, Tuomas's work, Marko's work - everyone
in that band. Do more of the studio work while you do the
live Floor stuff. Appreciate Nightwish for everything that
it is, and don't be afraid of backlash from the other fans.
If you truly love Nightwish, then that is all that counts."
*ANN WAYCHOFF - 6/20/20*
"Ann Carone Diamond Waychoff, 66, of Titusville, passed away Sunday, June 28, 2020 at UPMC Hamot."
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One of Tuomas' greatest compositions but one I think many misunderstand. I feel that this is not about Tarja, but about the reaction of the fan base, the media, and even the Finnish government to the decision to fire her. Certainly all the band members excel in this performance, but I especially love the drum work Kai is doing. His double kicks are so consistent, and his tom work is fantastic. Great reaction, and keep rocking.
Your feelings are right here. That entire incident was split across three songs: Bye Bye Beautiful, which is his goodbye letter to Tarja, The Poet and the Pendulum, which is his response to the fans who had turned on him and blamed him for Tarja’s dismissal, and Master Passion Greed, which is his letter to Marcelo Cebuli, Tarja’s manager and husband, whom the band blamed for Tarja’s change in attitude and demeanor. That is why those three pieces need to be listened to together, to fully understand what they were going through at the time.
@@athlonen I agree, they are a boxed set. I have always thought it a shame they never performed "Master Passion Greed" live. It is one of the most viciously cathartic songs ever written (as well as having the most awesomely angry outros ever performed by an orchestra).
Kai’s kick drum work here borders on perfection. He is just so freakin good technically.
Rosalie seems to be wild as a beast. Almost all listeners go tears in this one, so deep message beyond emotions. Metal beast empowered or what?
Your reaction is so genuin, passionate, and totally beauitful!! Love and light from Sweden!!
thank you very much :)
@@rosalieelliottofficial I could sit here 24-7 just listen to you analysing, react.... Love your thoughts and philsophically grounded wisdom and pure soulfull beauty
Emppu is checking up on Tuomas in the beginning if he’s ok, and so does the rest multiple times.
At first this was a very difficult song for him to perform, that’s why . And also the reason they get around him at the end part.
Which breaks my heart btw every single time 😅
Very nice Rosalie, well done. For me, this is yet another tearjerker by Nightwish and Floor Jansen. Floor is otherworldly in how she can elicit such emotion from me. She could sing anything and have me crying like a baby. I can't help but think how magical it must be for Freja to have her mom singing lullabies to her...sigh.
Masterpieces!!
One thing to remember regarding PP is that this also an emotional response to the reaction of the fan base, the press, even the Prime Minister of Finland at the time. I think decision to fire Tarja who seem a foot out of the band the time.
Empuu is checking in with Tuomas then last Marko joining Tuomas abd Empuu near end. Also notice “The Beginning” at the end of the song which mirrors the “The End” at the beginning of the song (really a musical piece).
Jee Veerey by Bloodywood may have saved my life, but Poet and the Pendulum allowed me, like Truth Beneath the Rose by Within Temptation, to actually heal from the feelings of anger, betrayal, and even rage I had held in for some time.
And the only way that was possible was to realize, as I have told others, was Tuomas was another that had dealt with these things that I have. That I wasn't alone. And the gamut of emotions, as Tuomas shows, that runs through Poet and the Pendulum is the same kind of emotions I've had to deal with in my life. Literally, hearing Poet and the Pendulum was like hearing the same roller coaster of emotions I've been through. Which is why Poet and the Pendulum helped me to heal and work through my own issues.
Fun fact: From the time the narrator says "I only have 3 minutes and counting," is exactly 3 minutes until you see Tuomas slice his neck with his hand from front to back, right before you hear the heartbeat stop.
Edit: Rosalie, there is a movie line that I think fits depressive people very well, if they don't succumb to the voices in their head: "He crawled through 500 yards of piss and shit that night, and came out clean on the other side." ~ Morgan Freeman, "Shawshank Redemption"
Because fact is, when you reach wisdom, and you realize certain things, it feels as if you were put through the wringer. You feel as if you've been tried and tested, and you somehow become stronger than what you were. It's also like going through a trial forge, and not giving up on yourself, even though you want to quit. It's why I've told people that all they have to do is find a purpose, something that takes their pain and transforms it into something positive. Which is why I keep my own inner demons at bay: Because my purpose, I've discovered, is helpng others. And if I can convince one person to keep living, it's worth it. And given that this is such a deep thing for me, it's hard not to tear up watching this video. But I do it, because the message is so important.
Thx for all the love
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Da warte ich schon drauf. Einer der bedeutsamsten songs den ich jemals gehört habe. Eines der big3 von Nightwish. damit hast du dann das 2. Für nr3 "the greatest show on earth" bitte die version in Tampere wählen.die ist einfach nur episch bis zur letzten sekunde. Die entstehung der erde,der menschheit in 20 min.🤗👍
You have added greatly to my understanding of this band. Thank you so much Rosalie.
What a superb, detailed and thoughtful reaction. Bravo
This song breaks me every time - I have no details in common at all, of course, but have been and am often in the darkest places. I understand the internal conflict, the different voices arguing within you, how you get caught in a maelstrom of fear and anger and betrayal and confusion. It is a frightening place to be and I can't express it clearly enough - Tuomas can and did.
I would honestly find this song very alarming except for the soothing climax as Floor and Marko singing as Mother and Father brings everyone back to safety.
I usually lose it at the cry of "Save Me", but sometimes it is the music right before Marko starts to scream - there is such a sense of crisis right before that point. Harrowing stuff.
I think it is hard to say I "like" this track, but it is a stunning piece of art I admire deeply, applaud its immaculate performance, and relate to it far more than I wish I ever did.
Thank you Rosalie for this reaction. In my opinion, it is the best i ever see and hear to this masterpiece from Toumas. I love it, that you read the background before you make this reaction.
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Your outfit is phenomenal.😍😍🥰🥰
This is a big one. Looking forward to it!
I love your reviews, The way you go through, the meaning of lyrics as well as musically, , truthful & very down to earth, Thankyou xx
Excellent and vibrant reaction as always. If I have to talk about the song, the moment when Floor is singing the part of the mother and the child, the "when did you became so cold" .. omg, it always brings me in tears. Is so emotional. I always think about losing someone important on your life and it's so hard. To be true, Tuomas is very brave to perform this song still
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Rosalie, what a reaction!!!! Oh how you did your homework, and does it ever show. This was SUCH a treat to watch - your perceptions and comments were, in a word, exceptional! An utter masterpiece like this deserves nothing less.
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(EDIT) I'd like to suggest that you now watch The Greatest Show on Earth - another epic masterpiece. As dark and somber as this piece is, TGSOE will take you in the other direction. You'll be left feeling utter joy and gratitude for your existence itself, as in "Holy crap, I GET TO BE HERE!!!"
As with The Poet And The Pendulum, The Greatest Show On Earth deserves a little homework. To get you started, the name of the song is part of the title of one of Prof. Richard Dawkins' (evolutionary biologist) books. The album it is from is "Endless Forms Most Beautiful", part of a quote from Charles Darwin's "On The Origin of Species". Intrigued??????
IMO there are two definitive live performances of TGSOE. One is from Tampere, Finland and the other from Wembley Arena. I have no preference. Each has its strong points; though the Wembley one actually features Prof. Dawkins onstage orating the Darwin quote.
I only have 3 minutes and counting. At exactly 3 minutes later he dies. The attention to detail is crazy.
Remember your intro when the time comes for "The Greatest Show on Earth".
No idea why you are looking so very classy in this video, but I love it. It's like we're watching a song before going out to the opera or something.
I believe, without fear of being wrong, that this has been the best reaction and analysis that I have seen of this song. Accompanying at all times, empathizing with the lyrics, breaking down the music. Claps for you. Standing. Greetings from NW Argentina!
Incredible analysis from a deeply emotional masterpiece!! Not easy whatsover to do that!! One of the best I ve watched regarding reactions!!Very very professional!! Next one, another complicated piece: The Greatest Show on Earth!!
Emmpu was talking to Tuomas to make sure he was ok because this song was so personal to Tuomas. The band knew this.
So I was at this Gig on the front row. I queued for nearly 10 hours, I didn't think I'd get to witness this song live.
This song breaks you and heals you, lyrically, and musically.
It is his Opus.
Floor makes it so much more than what it was and it was a perfect song ( if there ever is a perfect song.)
I will never forget this live.
Especially from the lyrics Beneath the blue, beneath the pain, beneath the rain. Sang by Floor over a choir boy.
Everything is so fitting and everything has a purpose every key change. You've already picked up on stuff.
At the 3 minutes and counting it takes 3 minutes for the death....into the last part. The last part is basically the aftermath And the cycle starts again.....with the beginning but with renewed hope.
There is so much to talk about.
Especially when you add Edgar Allen poe story the pit and the pendulum into it.
Also this is my mum's favourite nightwish song at the age of 60. And she's seen them live too.
Tuomas wrote this song as a healing process, he never meant to record it, but when Marko and Emppu and Jukka heard it they say it must be published.
Greetings Rosalie, I am writing to you and following from Mexico, excellent video, very good information you bring us about a song that really is incredible and deserves more videos like this, more people should know this incredible band and know more about their history. Keep going with these great videos.
Hello Rosalie. A wonderful and deep reaction. Thank you and greetings from nothern Germany.
Good reaction, Rosalie! I liked your analysis. To my ears, this is less about Tuomas vs Tarja and more about Tuomas vs the fans. His fans turned on him during this era and he was vilified. This hurt him more than the split with Tarja. I think the inaudible whispers in the beginning, the rape and betrayal imaginary, and his mother's and father's words to him in the last section, all support this idea. Edit: BTW, nice ad segue!
Thanks for this note, i missed this part of the story reading and hearing the reactions until yours. I agree and heard this more.
Imppu was literally asking tuomas if he was good with playing the song. Later on, tuomas said it was the last time they would ever play the song. That's why imppu walked up to him during the song. He wanted to know that tuomas was ok
Get your tissues ready at end this song will take you on a journey no band can mess with your emotions like them Thomas wrote this after Tarja left
Im sure those guys in the band love to hear her beautiful voice
And the best music is heavy. Even if not ‘heavy’ metal, the best is heavy/real. I love all 3 lead singers, 4 actually, as Marko was the leader singer off and on at times, at need. He was always there, always epic, always cried the weight, when needed and world class when he did.
The lyrics are what get to me
If you go back and read Edgar Alan Poe's story _The Pit and the Pendulum_ it will unveil a whole new layer of genius as Tuomas expressed his lyrics almost entirely in terms extracted from that tale's scenes.
Thank you so much for your hard work. This was great. I've watched every minute with pleasure.
This song, Ghost Love Score and The Greatest Show on Earth are considered the holy trinity.
This song is almost 14 minutes long , but it doesn't feel like that at all. Just like the Greatest Show on Earth doesn't feel like 20+ minutes.
Between the spoken "three minutes" and the moment Tuomas slices his throat is exactly three minutes.
41:45 the moment when the blade falls is three minutes after these words are spoken in the song.
There's no "no" in the shoulder cries more line. Meaning he has to try to stay strong for the others who are also crying which adds extra pressure on him.
One of the best reactions to this masterpiece, and believe me, I've seen many! Thank you 🧡
Thank you very much