Are Indigenous people called Indians?

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  • @MalloryRoseCo
    @MalloryRoseCo  11 місяців тому +6

    Is calling Indigenous people offensive? What do you think?

    • @wheepingwillow24u17
      @wheepingwillow24u17 11 місяців тому +1

      I AM A 72 YEAR OLD WOMAN, AND HAVE KNOWN I WAS CHEROKEE ALL MY LIFE, HAVING DOVE IN TO DO MY GENEALOGY, FINDING MY FAMILY AND JOINING WITH MY TRIBE, CLAN, AND WAS NAMED. NOW MY DAUGHTER AND GRANDDAUGHTER AND GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER ARE ALL ON THE ROLLS TOO. :) THIS WAS ONE OF MY BUCKET LIST ITEMS. WADO

    • @cucuyestoban
      @cucuyestoban 8 місяців тому

      Next episode of I only claim to be a bottom b in life as far as the economical marketable beat goes 😆 😂

    • @zoltanmarbland5706
      @zoltanmarbland5706 4 місяці тому

      I appreciate the idea of self determination thanks Mallory and Granny! I’m in the US and here we have the “Indian Health Service”. I mostly see this label used among White people in government to “other” Native people. As a White man in healthcare, I wonder if an organization intended for healing should start with an othering word. Instead it seems a more genuine attempt recognition of power that comes with the term “Native American”. Especially, since until recently White people were calling themselves “Native” if they were ancestors of settlers. For example “Native Californian”.

    • @nicepeoplerock
      @nicepeoplerock 2 місяці тому

      I think the respectful way to refer to someone is how they ask to be referred. But I've been researching trying to find out what that is and can't find a direct answer. I guess you just have to do your best and make sure your context and vibe communicate respect.

    • @dartmart9263
      @dartmart9263 Місяць тому

      ⁠ If you can’t say “Indian” to refer to First Americans, then you shouldn’t use a word derived from Indian, “indigenous”, as the replacement!!! Suggesting to do so because one is allegedly offensive, while the other isn’t, is completely ridiculous and illogical.
      By the way, most of us First American Nations use the word “Indian” ALL the time, without taking ANY offense whatsoever.
      Most of the people who feel triggered by “Indian” are those who have been heavily influenced by white liberals and white academics who want to constantly redefine things and to regularly rewrite the dictionary, in order to create political instability, grievances, offense and anger where there is NONE (or very little).
      Stop trying to portray all of us as offended by these things!!!

  • @danielleriverin3117
    @danielleriverin3117 11 місяців тому +9

    I'm not from India, then I am not Indian! It's okay, I understand some are ignorant, so I try to educate everyone about it!
    ~Innu First Nations of Quebec, Canada 🇨🇦

  • @ggeorgeherny
    @ggeorgeherny 10 місяців тому +4

    My spouse is a Native of Colombia. Also one of the Original People. My spouse speaks Spanish and also the language of her tribe from the Amazon region. They have customs similar to the Natives of the North. They do smudge, dances to the ancient ancestors, and feel connection to all the western hemisphere. All the lands had different names before it became the Americas. I

  • @M_K171
    @M_K171 11 місяців тому +4

    I met a wonderful man and his wife who preferred to be called native Indian rather than Native American. They even owned a museum called the Native Indian museum in Abilene, KS.

    • @dartmart9263
      @dartmart9263 Місяць тому +1

      Exactly right!!!
      ​​⁠Furthermore, if you can’t say “Indian” to refer to the people of the First (American) Nations, then you shouldn’t be able to refer to them using a word derived from “Indian”, “indigenous”, as its replacement!!! Suggesting to do so, because one is allegedly offensive while the other somehow isn’t, is completely ridiculous, illogical and baseless.
      It is utterly baseless because most of us of the First (American) Nations use the word “Indian” ALL the time, without taking ANY OFFENSE whatsoever. The honest ones will openly admit that we use the word “Indian” constantly.
      Also, it would be hypocritical and completely arrogant of us to constantly use the word among ourselves and then take umbrage when others use the word to refer to us. It would be an absurd and embarrassing demonstration of a childish power trip.
      Most of the people who feel triggered by “Indian” are those who have been heavily influenced by white liberals (progressives) and white academics who want to constantly redefine things and to regularly rewrite the dictionary. They make these regular changes to what is permissible (and not permissible) language in order to sow political instability, grievances, offense and anger where there is NONE (or very little). The world has enough senseless divisions as it is, so let’s not add to them.
      To those people, please STOP trying to portray all of us as offended by these utterly frivolous things!!!
      One final point. When Columbus arrived to the Caribbean, he honestly believed that he had reached India. That is the reason he called us all “Indians”, and the name simply stuck. It was an honest mistake, and not done maliciously. Everyone makes honest makes, it’s no big deal. Let’s stop making a giant mountain out of what is essentially (to us) a ridiculously tiny molehill!!!

  • @Hero.pheonix
    @Hero.pheonix 11 місяців тому +8

    Im more American than Americans thats why I’m Native American 😂👻

    • @dartmart9263
      @dartmart9263 Місяць тому +1

      In the US, anyone born on that soil is a native and a natural citizen of that land. Period.
      “Aboriginal” should have been the proper term used to refer to us of the First (American) Nations, but the majority of our members have absolutely NO problem being called “Indian”, or even referring to ourselves as “Indian”. The honest ones will admit that we do so all the time.
      Condemning the word “Indian” and then insisting on using a word derived from it, “indigenous”, is absolutely ridiculous, illogical and baseless!
      Half Choctaw and half Boricua.

    • @Hero.pheonix
      @Hero.pheonix Місяць тому

      @@dartmart9263 not a citizen a sovereign anyone under American government is a citizen

    • @dartmart9263
      @dartmart9263 Місяць тому +1

      @@Hero.pheonix LOl. Nope. Citizenry has to mean what the Founding Fathers meant, and the subsequent amendment on birthright, and NOT what modern radicals happen to claim it means this week.
      Nations will always have conquered territories and those populations with mixed personal allegiances do NOT deserve citizenship automatically, just because they happen to be under US laws at that moment.

  • @dartmart9263
    @dartmart9263 Місяць тому +1

    If you can’t say “Indian” to refer to the people of the First (American) Nations, then you shouldn’t be able to refer to them using a word derived from “Indian”, “indigenous”, as its replacement!!! Suggesting to do so, because one is allegedly offensive while the other somehow isn’t, is completely ridiculous, illogical and baseless.
    It is utterly baseless because most of us of the First (American) Nations use the word “Indian” ALL the time, without taking ANY OFFENSE whatsoever. The honest ones will openly admit that we use the word “Indian” constantly.
    Also, it would be hypocritical and completely arrogant of us to constantly use the word among ourselves and then take umbrage when others use the word to refer to us. It would be an absurd and embarrassing demonstration of a childish power trip.
    Most of the people who feel triggered by “Indian” are those who have been heavily influenced by white liberals (progressives) and white academics who want to constantly redefine things and to regularly rewrite the dictionary. They make these regular changes to what is permissible (and not permissible) language in order to sow political instability, grievances, offense and anger where there is NONE (or very little). The world has enough senseless divisions as it is, so let’s not add to them.
    To those people, please STOP trying to portray all of us as offended by these utterly frivolous things!!!
    One final point. When Columbus arrived to the Caribbean, he honestly believed that he had reached India. That is the reason he called us all “Indians”, and the name simply stuck. It was an honest mistake, and not done maliciously. Everyone makes honest makes, it’s no big deal. Let’s stop making a giant mountain out of what is essentially (to us) a ridiculously tiny molehill!!!

  • @karayasalinas2537
    @karayasalinas2537 11 місяців тому +2

    I am indigenous Borikua, Taino/Arawak from the Caribbean. This topic can be complex for many of us who identify with our indigenous heritage. Within Latin America, we identify as Indio, or Indian, however, in the States, many, like me, refer to ourselves as indigenous because Indian, American Indian, First Nation and Native American politically does not apply to us categorically or politically. I don't get offended when I'm called Indian or Indio but I will take time to educate people about our history and how Europeans mistook our land for India.
    Now I will add that for our island, our identity as indigenous Borikua is important as we are still living under colonialism that is trying to wipe out our identity and displace us from the island. My family was displaced. To refer to ourselves as indigenous is a form of resistance. It is to take back what is ours.

    • @cucuyestoban
      @cucuyestoban 8 місяців тому

      She probably supports it and search up how the dynamic actually involved the women selling out and is basically their bottom b.😂😂

  • @skullshapedbox
    @skullshapedbox 11 місяців тому +4

    Its not considered a slur like other terms are, but i don't like being called "Indian". I know ppl online use "ndn" when referring to themselves sometimes, but it's used within online community. I prefer to be called indigenous, or first nations. (But also, don't refer to me ever 😅 lol)

    • @MalloryRoseCo
      @MalloryRoseCo  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much for your thoughts... I see ndn used a lot too. I think there're alot to be said for tonality, facial expressions and other communication cues that determine how words come across. I think the only word I dislike is 'should' lol

  • @roberttwin888
    @roberttwin888 11 місяців тому +1

    We rode horses not camels.

  • @nicepeoplerock
    @nicepeoplerock 2 місяці тому +1

    The most wise advice is usually so simple and logical. If not knowing makes you uncomfortable, find out. If you're fine, then it's fine. If something inhibits you, fix it. Where there's no worry, don't put worry there. We all kind of know this but it's so valuable to say out loud.

    • @dartmart9263
      @dartmart9263 Місяць тому +1

      You can just refer to me as your lord and master. Just kidding, of course. I couldn’t help myself there.
      As I’ve noticed in several articles written by “experts” is that what is obvious to many/most, others will just call “complicated” to avoid providing a sound explanation.
      Here it goes …
      If you can’t say “Indian” to refer to the people of the First (American) Nations, then you shouldn’t be able to refer to them using a word derived from “Indian”, “indigenous”, as its replacement!!! Suggesting to do so, because one is allegedly offensive while the other somehow isn’t, is completely ridiculous, illogical and baseless.
      It is utterly baseless because most of us of the First (American) Nations use the word “Indian” ALL the time, without taking ANY OFFENSE whatsoever. The honest ones will openly admit that we use the word “Indian” constantly.
      Also, it would be hypocritical and completely arrogant of us to constantly use the word among ourselves and then take umbrage when others use the word to refer to us. It would be an absurd and embarrassing demonstration of a childish power trip.
      Most of the people who feel triggered by “Indian” are those who have been heavily influenced by white liberals (progressives) and white academics who want to constantly redefine things and to regularly rewrite the dictionary. They make these regular changes to what is permissible (and not permissible) language in order to sow political instability, grievances, offense and anger where there is NONE (or very little). The world has enough senseless divisions as it is, so let’s not add to them.
      To those people, please STOP trying to portray all of us as offended by these utterly frivolous things!!!
      One final point. When Columbus arrived to the Caribbean, he honestly believed that he had reached India. That is the reason he called us all “Indians”, and the name simply stuck. It was an honest mistake, and not done maliciously. Everyone makes honest makes, it’s no big deal. Let’s stop making a giant mountain out of what is essentially (to us) a ridiculously tiny molehill!!!

  • @cvaagsgardenoflifeanimalsa2088
    @cvaagsgardenoflifeanimalsa2088 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm a proud and grateful subscriber 😂❤

    • @MalloryRoseCo
      @MalloryRoseCo  11 місяців тому

      We are grateful to have you as a subscriber!

  • @tuckbanks8039
    @tuckbanks8039 11 місяців тому

    also don’t you ever call Buffy St Marie a pretendian

  • @TheCreatureWorksStudio
    @TheCreatureWorksStudio 11 місяців тому

    Like you said- First tell the actual Government of Canada. My card still says in the top right hand corner "Certificate of Indian Status". I was born in the 70's and don't take offence of being called an indian. It is a narrative that is still government fed and I can't expect fellow Canadians to know different.

  • @johnspears1496
    @johnspears1496 11 місяців тому

    What is your opinion on white people smudging with white sage?

  • @Steve-ng6jf
    @Steve-ng6jf 11 місяців тому

    When someone is angry. They often look for reasons to be offended.
    Not Granny, she is a beautiful and happy person, a gift to us all.
    "Follow the lead of the person you're talking to"
    Great interview. Much thanks

  • @sceneshootergirl88
    @sceneshootergirl88 11 місяців тому

    I have a question, am I Native American if I’m only 25% Native American heritage wise :/

  • @Tachiini505
    @Tachiini505 11 місяців тому

    Indian, Western Indian, American Indian, Amerindian, Native American, Indigenous, tribal, Band, original inhabitants, lost Jews, Siberian, Asian, natives, and countless bad names... pick one. She said it perfect, why would you ask anyone there ethnicity? I get that now....🤣 what kind of ... are you?....😂

  • @ggeorgeherny
    @ggeorgeherny 10 місяців тому

    Indians from India are called Hindustani and come from the area of great history. When the Spaniards arrived they thought they came to the Hindus region of the Far East. I would like to know how the Original People of Turtle Island call themselves. I hear the word Nations. I would like to know more

  • @gigischuster3078
    @gigischuster3078 11 місяців тому

    I'm Indigenous, but do I look Indian from India no. As such I ask people to use my tribal name and Indigenous name if they want to be respectful to my Indigenous ancestry and family and remind them Indian is people from India. Indian is deragotory coined term from the American Government on Stolen Land Turtle Island. I ask people to say Indigenous, 1st Nations Indigenous, Native people and include correct tribal names not the ones given by Spanish, Italians or French.
    My mother is Kiwegapaw also known as by Spanish coined term Kickapoo and also
    Chichimecan
    My father is Chippewa and Odowa, Neshnabek
    from Saginaw,
    Burt Lake and Canada
    My siblings and I were adopted. The more the Indian term is used the U.S wants it to be to erase actual tribal names and correct Indigenous 1st Nations names.
    'We Are Still Here!'

  • @edithpack9962
    @edithpack9962 11 місяців тому

    No it is not true I am proud of my heritage. I have family living on Reservation.

  • @ggeorgeherny
    @ggeorgeherny 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for your site to explain the customs of the Land. I live in the now US territory but recognize this too is Turtle Island “ wara tsi kawè .” Praying for Peace for all as the Medicine shows we are One. Hindu People say we are like a string of pearls all connected together. Who wears the Necklace?

  • @larrya3989
    @larrya3989 11 місяців тому +1

    Good morning from Arizona, I'm originally from New Mexico and my father told me my grandmother was apache, and I'm proud, I just want to know how much I am, thank you

  • @ricksiddall8032
    @ricksiddall8032 9 місяців тому

    I'm one of those people who don't know who I am. My father was adopted and I don't know much about his family or heritage. My wife is half "Indian" (sorry, thats what we say) and I've been told there is native blood from my mothers side but they, for whatever reason, adamantly deny it. I wish I knew for sure but I identify as part of the Souix tribe because my wife and children are and her family is the only family if ever felt a part of. In your opinion is this wrong?

  • @Sabout2
    @Sabout2 11 місяців тому

    Interesting timing on this subject. I had a discussion on this very subject this afternoon with a Navajo here in Arizona. He prefers to be called indio (yes, that's with an o). Meaning "of one god" as he said that is what the Spanish who first saw the Navajo called them. They recognized the Navajo as having one god because of their practices.

  • @williambrower3704
    @williambrower3704 11 місяців тому

    All due respect people should get over it we're brothers and sisters we should be be treated as equals

  • @tuckbanks8039
    @tuckbanks8039 11 місяців тому

    i’m Tsalagi and i say indian, it’s like a nickname, it’s not that big a deal

  • @danieleloubert7526
    @danieleloubert7526 11 місяців тому +1

    Love your granny! She is so right, why on earth do they need to ask this question in the first place?

  • @misterscottintheway
    @misterscottintheway 11 місяців тому

    I appreciate the nuance you and your granny bring to this subject. I agree with another comment that it would have been nice to hear her speak on the subject with fewer leading questions. Open ended questions are usually a better way to elicit really genuine responses.
    It takes a lot of hard work to keep a channel like this running and I hope you keep it up. It's valuable and unique. I've been trying to find other channels that address Indigenous issues in Canada but as far as I can tell this is the only Indigenous-run channel that does explainer type videos for a wide audience. I'm sure there are lots of good reasons for that but I wish there were more. Do you know of any other channels I should look into?
    Anyway thanks!

  • @athlene110
    @athlene110 11 місяців тому

    Thanks Mallory! 😊 Your channel is so awesome and you're so great at explaining things!

  • @blkwdo123
    @blkwdo123 11 місяців тому

    Is it OK to fund schools like St. Joseph and St Labre Indian schools? I'm asking because of the horror some schools did to Indan children.

  • @lynnlaviolette9509
    @lynnlaviolette9509 11 місяців тому

    Hi Mal, I am 68, I am Wendat from Quebec, I am of mixed blood and been called Breed by some from both sides . I am proud to be indigenous, I have also been called much worse, by both sides. My Mother Loved my Father, as Do I. I am Waabi Manitou Mukwa. Also, I am subscribed and I always hit the like and so should the rest of the viewers. We are who we Are regardless of what "the others" call us. Like Mishoomis said 25% are gonna like you, 25% are gonna hate, 50% aren't gonna care about you. Go with the first group, the rest aren't worth your time.

  • @Racha0900
    @Racha0900 11 місяців тому

    I'm glad you had your grandmother talk about this. I'm a tribal member that works in Indigenous communities in the US, including Alaska. I have observed that elders often prefer the term Indian when talking with and about other Indigenous folks. Most people I find prefer to identify as Native or Indigenous if around non Indigenous or mixed company. We also work in IHS here in the US, which stands for Indian Health Services. So this is a nuanced topic.

  • @i_io_o994
    @i_io_o994 11 місяців тому

    I would like to hear your grandmother (and other elders) do more of the speaking. You interrupted her and asked leading questions, so it would be cool if you asked open ended questions and let her speak uninterrupted. Good topic though

    • @MalloryRoseCo
      @MalloryRoseCo  11 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for your suggestions i_io_o994!
      I would love to have more elders on the channel, it's extremely difficult for people to feel comfortable on camera despite enormous amounts of encouragement. But I assure you I'll keep trying!

    • @TheAaronChand
      @TheAaronChand 4 місяці тому

      ​@MalloryRoseCo but you guys aren't Indians. Indians are from India Hindustan my ethnic background Columbus got lost trying to find a shortcut in India back in the year 1492

  • @Genesis-007
    @Genesis-007 11 місяців тому

    Much respect to your grandmother 🙏. The time I was growing up years ago, the word Indian was used frequently but I think now days people identity people from India as Indian and indigenous as Native American or Native Canadian. But I personally would never use any word considered either offensive or derogatory as I have a deep respect for indigenous people, culture, customs, traditions, beliefs and spirituality.

    • @cucuyestoban
      @cucuyestoban 8 місяців тому

      Don't forget the side of grooming and grapes with the bottomed out abrahamic cult who likes to extort them to their fold 😂. Do you pray for their demise if they don't side with yall and how's the extortion ranks against such with your pimps basically

    • @cucuyestoban
      @cucuyestoban 8 місяців тому

      Also why pray when they never address the system of operations against such peoples and how it is women who are the biggest extorters with their bottomed out men 😆

    • @cucuyestoban
      @cucuyestoban 8 місяців тому

      Also why ya never talk about the dynamic of operations against such peoples and how it really operated?

  • @chrisallison9526
    @chrisallison9526 11 місяців тому

    When you say Indian what I say do you mean like 7/11and dot on the head or do you mean like cowboy and Indian LOL

    • @skullshapedbox
      @skullshapedbox 11 місяців тому +4

      😬
      Colonizers came thinking they had found India, and they never tried to learn or change their terms. Even to this day, it seems 😏

    • @chrisallison9526
      @chrisallison9526 11 місяців тому

      Me I just referred to them as native Americans as my self because of somatic
      Because I not from India