A Deep Dive Into The Online Manosphere
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Lol. You've become one of them. Thats so gay.
@@kimchipho447 nah cuz how is that harmful ?
@@kimchipho447 everyone has to earn money somehow buddy
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Manosphere =/= Health consciousness bad.
Toxic health consciousness is just a cope.
Kind of like how Public Infrastructure isn't an exclusively Leftwing thing - Adam.
Pickup artistry isn’t meant to attract women, it’s meant to attract men who are desperate to attract women.
On point summary in one sentence, Great! 💯
Or meant to attract their money. These guys are scam artists, preying on lonely (sometimes very misogynistic) insecure dudes.
That's why it works and alpha chads u all drool over use game naturally right?
Don't ever listen to wahmen about what kind of game they think they'll like, it'll always be some weak incel beta male simping that will get you ghosted or friendzoned. Wahmen don't have enough intellect to even know what kind of men they sleep with vs what kind of men they claim they want.
@@chihirostargazer6573 Bingo
Yeah, these guys make a lot of money preying on the people who eat this up.
"When men refer to themselves as "alpha males", I hear that in the context of software, where alpha versions are unstable, missing important features, filled with flaws, and not fit for the public."
💯🤣🤣
best comment!
Wise words
Lmfao
Good thing no one really refers to themselves as alpha males.
I am serbian and actually laughed out loud when he said to immigrate from first world countrys to serbia my god
Same here 🤣
A country so great that we leave it for degenerate West.
Come on, Serbs! Do it like us brazilians do: Embrace it and make it the new COME TO BRAZIL meme!
Things that bad?
@@giorgialadashvili4771 all young people leave as soon as they can, should give you a general idea how shit living here is
I love how Roosh interprets that girl reaching out to him more as her being desperately attracted to his distant attitude, and not, you know, someone being concerned that their friend suddenly started acting weird and distant
Yeah he could have acted like a normal person and seen it for that. Instead however, he went off the deep end...
These are the same guys that say women don’t care for them. They see women being concerned as desperate yet say women are cold natured that don’t care for the men around
He should just not change his behaviour to attract a girl. I mean, eventually it will work, but by then you will be acting as a completely different person than you really are. Is it worth it?
This probably could have been prevented if he remembered that they were just friends, rather than assuming that she also had romantic feelings for him. Confessing attraction to someone can be difficult, but *that person was not obligated to like him,* especially if he never told her about how he felt. He thought that he was cheated on when a relationship had never even started between them.
I have a friend who unironically binges watches Tate and it's gotten to the point he full on idolizes and enshrines him. It's so fking sad and I don't know what to do 🤣🤣🤣...
"If you were just a bit less self-aware, you would cease to be sentient" is the best sentence in a UA-cam video I've heard this year. 10/10
But then he turns around and gives advice that isn’t self aware. He even gives advice about not immediately texting back, the parody of garbage shallow dating advice
so true
What I took from that was reply when you can, if you're doing something, get your shit done then text back. Not play games and set timers, just don't feel pressured to immediately snap respond.
@@minabotieso6944is that that is the only thing you can nitpick come on say all of the bad advice criticize it with actual reason also it more feels like the advice is to focus on what your current task is finish it and then text back its not some stupid advice it’s generally just a far more efficient thing to do
@@earlgrey3042 yeah just be chill, don't overthink it and and try enjoy the moments you spend with her.
Litteraly all you need
I LOVE the concept of people choosing a coutry to immigrate to but want said country to hate foreigners...
It's very common too lol Where I live a lot of our immigrants are south asians, sikhs in particular. They get here then they vote conservative and want to close the doors behind them for everyone else lol They're always "the good immigrant" who should get special treatment and everyone else shouldn't come because jobs or whatever conservative propaganda they ate up.
Which just goes to show that the conservative fear mongering propaganda that "liberals want to replace voters to have more liberal voters" is a flat out lie cause a lot of the people who come here are conservatives coming from conservative places who vote conservative when they get here.
They are the sort of people who think that "Expat" and "Economic migrant" are different things. I can't see their attitude going down very well to be honest. I'm in the UK where there's no significant language barrier and while almost all Americans I've met have been lovely people I have met a few who personified the ignorant, insular, arrogant "USA! USA!" stereotype. It didn't end well for them. One notable example being the one who told me he never would have come to England if he'd known we had black people here... WTAF!
I think that was the only time in my life I've used the expression "Fuck off back to where you came from then"🤣
@@AnthonyHandcock The only good context to use that expression
When they say "foreigner" they mean non-white people, or men in particular.
Absolutely unbeatable redpill logic
"If you were any less self aware you'd cease to be sentient. " I'm gonna keep that sentence for later. it's great writing !
😁 what about doing some "romance" in Las Vegas #🎯 problem solved 💃💏 that guy is not worth his freedom of being jailed by marriage 😁Ask Johnny Dep about that .. then compare him to Johnny sinns 😆
He's got a way with words, love his wit!
Definitely a high quality burn.
Which is ironic because manosphere followers love to accuse progressives (or even moderates) of being "NPCs" or "non-player characters" in the computer game that is their life.
That's one of the best insults I have heard all year!
Manosphere: men who want the aesthetics of being a self reliant gigachad but without the introspection and life experience to actually do it
For better or for worse people in previous decades did not need to have tons of life experience and introspection + have a thoroughly put together life in order to date and get married
@@minabotieso6944 Why do people need to date and get married anyway?
@@minabotieso6944 bruh they also got divorced
@@minabotieso6944 That's for worse
In times of war it usually are the "soy boys" that are fight the hardest and show the most courage. A simple fact is that the thing that gives people strength to do incredible things is social bonds. Fighting and possibly even dying for your family, your beliefs, your children, your friends, your community is something humans can do and usually the more people are attached to these things the braver they are.
Good soldiers are not masculine posers. They are dedicated and compassionate men who care enough about their country and their family to lay down their lives to protect it, this is doubly so when you are fighting at a disadvantage.
Usually the ones siding with the fascist dictator are the "alpha" men who are too insecure to take care of themselves and too selfish to make personal sacrifices for the greater good of their community. It will be the "soy boys" on the front lines to protect their loved ones and the "alpha" men whining and rebelling from within the fortresses.
"France won't let me publicly call Africans the n-word" 💀
If you pause there, you'll see the douche in question is talking about immigration. Which doesn't make him less douchy, but it does bring Adams interpretation of it down to a douchy level as well. I lost a lot of respect for him on that one, he already had the high ground.
@@sephreed1938 ''I lost a lot of respect for him on that one'' Lmao, aren't you being a tad melodramatic?
@@sephreed1938 You think these people don't want to publicly call Africans the n-word?
@@sephreed1938 So you think it's OK to use the n-word if your target is an immigrant?
@@idot3331 ok now hang on, now I gotta play devils advocate. What that guy said is technically true, and he's not saying that these people aren't racist, just that the article wasn't about calling people the n word, rather that it's about not wanting different people to enter their country, which is just as racist.
So this Roosh V guy straight up ghosted a girl who considered him his friend overnight and, seeing her trying to connect back with him, only thought "I'm going to keep doing this out of spite, keep being an asshole to her because it makes me feel powerful", presumably lost that friend and then proceeded to make it his entire career?
As a kind of backstory for a book character, that's the kind of thing that would get him characterized as a tragic villan who let his pettyness burn all the bridges that once mattered to him. This is the manosphere, though, so obviously he's actually a role model.
Holy shit is this guy literally Severus Snape but got testosterone poisoning
May I point out the only comparison you came up with is fictional story telling while you try to denigrate him, telling a true story of his past ? Just saying.
When Hbomberguy was reading that quote as well for his pickup artist video, that was what he came away with as well. She tried harder because she did value their friendship and he was being distant, but given that was the last mention of her, he probably drove her away. Now obviously I'm not her, none of us are, but it seems like whether she started paying more attention to try to maintain the friendship or being more interested in him, it is true he ultimately drove her away, which is honestly sad
@@corpusarmatae8541 the irony is that roosh obviously completely misread that situation in his retelling of his life
@@corpusarmatae8541 That was meant as "This is the sort of stuff you'd write on purpose to make someone look tragically misguided".
He tells that story as something he's proud of (or at least was at the time), but anyone with a minimum of sympathy can just see that, from that girl's point of view, he just started ghosting her out if nowhere. I don't doubt that the whole thing happened roughly as described, but stories are how we remember and communicate events, fictional or not, and even true stories can be retold in ways that follow fictional tropes.
It may shock people in the manosperhe but women generally don't like people who don't treat people with basic respect
And men generally like women who aren’t bitter obnoxious human beeings who blame their mostly made up problems on the patriarchy or even worse, individualy on men. Learn to accept and respect eacht other.
I don’t think they actually talk and see women as human
Try dating a woman that is only interested in you because of how you look. The woman Adam Something ends up marrying will have done things with alpha males in her youth that she will never do with Adam Something. They will get the best out of her and Adam Something will get their slops. He knows it. He is trying to change the situation.
What do you think chicks do before they marry for security? A lot of Chads is what. Does it make you feel sad? What is your opinion on rape orgasms? Ever given one? No not a rape orgams - a regular one I mean..
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As a Serbian, as soon as I saw Serbia as number 1. I grinned so hard my cheeks started hurting. Just the idea of migrating from the EU here, while we are desperately trying to get in, is so amusing.
It’s nuts that Roosh doesn’t realize that what happened in college was someone who saw him as a friend being upset that he suddenly started withdrawing and avoiding her
Is it really nuts, though? Did Roosh ever realize anything remotely profound in his life?
That's what I was thinking. How sad is it that he didn't realize he was burning a bridge with someone who considered him a friend, because he was so caught up in his own mental gymnastics? Hell, of course I'd start writing and contacting friends who seem to be ghosting me for no reason. What a weird approach this guy took.
BS. She knew he liked her and continued to lead him on. If I was good friends with a girl I wasn’t interested in and she suddenly asked me out, I would have the decency to make it clear that I don’t view her that way. This chick was shady.
@@Corredor1230 Uh...what? She just lied and gave an excuse to not hang out with him, and went out with someone else. She's totally free to do that, just like he was free to move on. He doesn't owe her attention or a friendship anymore than she owes him a date.
@@JoshuaCastillo6309 "lead him on" and you know this how?
The one piece of advice my Dad gave me that I will never forget is don't go looking for a relationship, you come of as desperate and easy. Just live your life, be yourself, talk to people and something will come along. And that way, even if you're alone for a while, at least you're happy doing what you enjoy.
Edit: It's been 5 months since I made this comment. It has been very fun watching almost 42 whole replies of people completely missing the point of what I said.
People not being able to be alone with themselves is super toxic. Some men just seem to be looking for a relationship so they don't have to be alone with their thoughts.
Your father is right on the money. Faking your behavior to a huge extent to actively seek a partner will lead to future dysfunctional relationships, cuz you can't keep the act forever. Be yourself with a basic filter and you're good to go.
@@McDonaldsCalifornia yeah during the pandemic some people I know started whining about being bored and how they go mad with the loneliness and not dating. I couldn’t understand it as I was having the time of my life focusing on my fitness, mental health, chores around the house, quiet hobbies you can do at home.
Reminds me a bit of the Comic 'Manly Guys Doing Manly Things'
"The good thing about self improvement is that you're always the best version of yourself."
Which to be fair is probably because the author based the manliness of her characters on her dad.
@@barkasz6066 I see where you're coming from, and partly agree.
But on the other hand I got to see the in person social life I built for myself crumble into a dust and put me right where I was in a depressed slump around 2017.
Not everyone has the same emotional needs. Or feels the need for the same sorts of companionship with the same sort of strength.
So I am sympathetic to the anxiety and loneliness.
I just also fully believe the whole 'manosphere' thing is a malignant response to a real problem.
The manosphere is fascinating. It feels like parody but these people actually believe what they’re writing
Manosphere and Toxic Feminism are both incredibly toxic
@Ostia Hermes Dude human trafficking is bad.
even calling themselves manosphere is ridiculous
Basically Mr. Douchebag irl
I can't te'll if Oistia is real or not. Poe's Law in action.
Complaining guy: "Look at all my money, my wealth, how great I am, now date me!"
Women: "Look at that man with all that money and wealth!"
Complaining guy: "They're golddiggers!"
It's your target audience... what do you expect?
I completely lost my shit as well when he said Serbia, because literally over the summer a friend of mine came to NYC from Belgrade on a student exchange program, she's here for the year, and she was recently venting to me how much she does not want to go back to Serbia where she got certified to be a teacher and her salary was abysmal. I'd love to see how these sickos attempt to survive on the equivalent of 500 USD a MONTH
I'm sure the experience is a lot nicer when you can make western money and work remotely. Most of these takes on how great Serbia is basically presume that's what the guy will be doing.
except that money goes further in a country like serbia
@@wizardmongol4868 L M F A O
@@Futuregohan14 Literally. Working in Serbia is like, "da li ste visoko obrazovani?? SUPER! Evo ti 1.200 dinara"
Serbia is a strong country with it's sense of ethnic identity unlike other European countries that they have to commit demographic suicide
As a Czech, I burst out laughing when you read the word "xenophylic" - "tell me you've only ever been to Prague without telling me".
Nice video, as always, Adam.
@@mathiasrryba Haha, yep, you're on point here :D
@@mathiasrryba I just KNOW that mf pays for premium.... what a sucker
Yeah, me too. It was fu*king ridiculus
You want to know about the most alpha thing I can think of?
It was during my grandmother's funeral, she was my best friend. Our relationship was widely known in our family.
I wasn't taking it well, and my grandfather saw that. We haven't always gotten along, and I regret that. But he gave me a hug, telling me "we will get through this".
He had also lost his best friend, but he still thought of others.
I went into his office and just closed the door. I didn't move for, I don't quite know. I think it was an hour, it may have been multiple.
But while I was catatonic my grandfather sat with guests and talked and listened. He's not a people person, he cares for family and is kind, but he's more of a small dinner type of guy.
We lost our best friend but he was such a natural leader and caregiver he would not let himself act like I did.
Alphas aren't tough guys, they're my grandmother playing legos with my 7 year old self just because I liked it. They're my sister driving 10 km just to get my sick self groceries.
Alphas are the first person you call not just for help, but just to speak with.
People like Andrew Tate aren't alphas, they're jealous betas. They want all the respect with none of the work the alpha put in to earn even a modicum of their position.
Alpha humans, like alpha wolves, are the parents, the caregivers, the person you'd trust your passed out partner with.
I like your comment, but I just wanted to point out that even the author that coined the term in wolves said that it's wrong and the hierarchy of alphas, betas, omegas doesn't exist.
And also, being weak sometimes doesn't make you less of a badass. But yeah, being there for people when even you're suffering is pretty badass as well
@@KlickPy no, he realised they weren't "alphas" but just parents.
He saw some things in wolves in captivity and thought it applied in general.
Which would be like studying humans by learning about how we can act in prisons.
@@Tbop3 I was too.
I was only using their terms. Not one iota of my story was about being an alpha, but about being a caring and reliable person.
It is admirable how your grandpa acted but in a way it is also sad that he is sort of not allowed to show his emotions at that moment. I hope he worked through his grief in another more private way and found his peace anyways.
Like im not saying that people crying together or openly showing grief is the optimal way to deal with something like this but it sure does feel good to cry sometimes even as a man and not just in private behind closed doors
This is a fantastic comment, you are absolutely right, the people who are often considered the strongest in society are not whatever these manosphere guys are trying to be, they are the people who care, who help others, who are there when you need them and in return you are there for them, people who are just honest and genuine and don't try to be better than others or talk down to them. My sincere condolences to you and your family for your loss and I hope you are doing better now, please continue being an excellent person, your grandfather too, he sounds awesome and a lot like mine.
Even I, a socially anxious female who actively avoid conflict or misunderstandings and isn't pretty by most standards but my own, had to suffer tantrums from guys - try hard "alphas" or fully assumed "betas" alike - because they couldn't handle rejection by what they consider a "low-tier ugly f*cking b*tch" (actual words).
Like, the amount of guys that can't even fathom the idea of women being any close to their equal is genuinly concerning...
Oh man I am so sorry to hear that :( this boggles my mind - why would you want to be with you then in the first place? Or are they that unable to hold rejection as to admit - yeah I like that person, but they don’t want me, so they feel the need to devalue you using words as much as possible?
@@NonaMoreauIt’s to protect their ego. Also they approach “ugly” girls thinking they are entitled to a relationship. Which is insane because they do the same to conventionally attractive women.
@@saehisaya So like if the girl is “ugly” she will automatically agree? Sheesh.
@@NonaMoreau The idea is that she should. They have a set idea on how women are “supposed” to act, so any deviation from that will earn you disdain and probably personal attacks.
I’m Japanese so it’s even worse since we are seen as more docile and friendly than other people. I can tell you that’s not true lol.
I got rejected a lot before I met my now fiancé but I would never have said something like that. Getting mad about getting rejected does nothing to help you, some other person will just think you're an asshole forever, a story they tell people about on YT lol
So basically, the manosphere are men who never grew up from being a highschooler.
P much
I would say most followers are teens, or at least got into it when they were younger. They are literally being brainwashed it's sad
Dude most highschoolers I knew were better then this, this is some Late Middle School shit.
@@SirAroace no literally,, it’s like “girls have cooties” turned up to a million
@@SirAroace I'm literally in high school _right now_ and I can confirm
the manosphere completley fails to even identify what we want in a "dangerous man"
it's dracula from the castlevania anime. start wearing capes and you'll start being attractive.
disclaimer im trans so the tastes are probably skewed
@@famitory skewed towards facts and being correct. Capes rock
I am a straight male... And I agree 100% that Cape rocks
Impractical as Edna from the Incredibles said... But it's the price for absolutely slaying on the catwalk 😤
As a fellow hungarian it never ceases to amuse me that I always pronounce manosphere in my head as 'manó-sphere' aka the little tiny elf-sphere
BOJLER ELADÓ
Goo lash
Sounds about right, they all have Napoleon complexes, no matter their actual height
@@bencepandi3568 ITS COMPLEX. More so than i thought, i realized.
Gravitas Video 'The Red Pill and Men's Rights' was really interesting, and we shouldnt ignore that. The Sexism-against-Men is real and would be objectively-proven even without the well-documented F-Up of the Judge at Timestamp 46:00. It's worth pondering, fellow Adam-Fans!
Seems fitting
I was a girl in high school once. I recall liking the shy nervous boys who wouldn’t talk to me. I liked the ones who talked to me too…but this was high school and I was a loud, tall girl, and high school boys tend to be frightened of such things.
Anyway, I don’t ever recall liking assholes even in high school, and I certainly won’t suffer them now at 32.
If I could give one piece of advice to men about women, it would be “we’re human.” We are jerks and assholes and sweethearts and pushovers and whiners and heroes and bores and leaders and idiots and luminaries…all sorts of people. Some women won’t want to date you for asshole reasons, and that’s good because they’re assholes. Some women won’t want to date you because they’re not attracted to you, which is good because you wouldn’t want someone to lie to themselves. Some women won’t want to date you because you’re just not compatible, and you get to decide if you want to change or stay the course long term.
We’re human.
That's what those idiots fail to understand. They treat women as if they're a mono-demographic and not individuals.
If how you described meeting women was real life then there would be no toxic male online communities
@@minabotieso6944 That's bullshit. It's nice of you to place the blame on women for men being assholes though.
Deal with your own issues. Don't make them someone else's responsibility.
Finally, a woman who is aware of her flaws but also want both men and women to strive becoming the better versions of one another, and not just any girl who shout "i'm a bad bitch" for no particular reason(not generalizing tho, pretty sure some of them are just messing around, you know what i mean)
Anyway, more power to you, queen👑
@@minabotieso6944 honestly it sounds like you haven't seen a woman in a few years. Like they are a mythical rare Pokémon that only appear in some rare spaces. That clearly isn't true. Especially not in this day and age when we are more connected than ever.
I think this is more a feeling than a fact. Yes men feel lonely and they feel like they can't meet women. But that's not true, there is nothing stopping them. I think it's more frustration and the fact that society is so segregated by gender and that they aren't equipped to deal with it and it becomes scarier to go outside your comfort zone. But women exist, and they probably exist around you too. They are just like you and me, just with slightly different biology.
These Return of Kings articles make much more sense if you imagine the authors crying as they write them.
😭😭😭
That's buzzfeed not return of kings
@@loona_mew That's both.
The manosphere is so tragic, it teaches young lonely men how to further isolate themselves from any form of positive relationships :(
Adam obviously picked the worst “manosphere” dude possible I wouldn’t even call this person in it
@@fuzzytop4746 my comment applies to all manosphere ideology, just to different extents. All the beliefs inevitably lead to being a worse person.
@@Froggsroxx how is that being a worse person
@@fuzzytop4746 because the manosphere promotes masculinity in relation to others. The healthiest masculinity is the one that allows you to be alone with yourself, and still be happy. The one that does not equate more worth to romantic relationships as opposed to platonic ones. The one that promotes self improvement for no other reason than to help *yourself*
@@fuzzytop4746 The Manosphere® peddlers are VERY cool with guys having a victim complex. Victimhood sells big time. Being 'nice' while you don't appear strong is not attractive to sane women. So the nutty ones are left for those who subscribe to some manosphere guy on UA-cam.
Just be a guy that girls would want to have good conversations with, can learn from, can teach you, have fun with you and generally chill out with you. If you aren't very chill and are on a high horse about 'women', then it's just not that fun.
No revolution against women or soyboys is waiting for you to join it. It doesn't exist.
"Be the person you'd want your children to bring home as their partners" is the common sense nuke. Nailed it!
That's the worst dating advice you can give to a man. It would be great if it worked, both for men's sanity and for society, but it doesn't work. Because ultimately that sentence is telling men to be boring, which Adam himself said is the worst thing possible.
@@256shadesofgrey In what way is that telling men to be boring?
@@joshuagershon6095 Do you want your daughter to date a rockstar with a bipolar personality who does drugs regularly? No, you want your daughter to date a good man with a stable job, who has high family values and is reliable. But which one of these is more exciting?
@@256shadesofgrey Both those examples are mutually exclusive to being boring. You can have a stale personality and be a "rockstar with a bipolar personality who does drugs regularly." Likewise, you can have an exciting personality and hold a stable job. What is your point?
@@joshuagershon6095 If you think that, you should maybe look around and see what kind of guy gets more attention from women.
You are not seeing things from the perspective of a woman, you are seeing things only from the perspective of a dad. Or a guy who is boring but who is desperately trying to convince himself otherwise.
Women seek strong and exciting emotions that they were led to believe is "love". And nothing gets them hooked more than the rollercoaster that they would experience with the first kind of guy.
And yes, these are generalizations, this doesn't apply to every woman, but that's what you should bet on when picking a random 20-something from the general population in any Western country.
the "girls like assholes and reject nice guys" also comes from girls breaking up with guys with a line similar to "you're a nice guy, and all. but...". which hormonal young men will interpret as "i am rejecting you *because* you are a nice guy"
or rejecting their advances for that reason
Have you ever talked to a woman in your life? You should try it, ask a girl if a guy is always nice to them how do they feel... this isn't going to go the way you have been propagandized into thinking it will.
@@thomgizziz As a woman, I think you too have some more thinking to do.
There is nice, and then there is "nice".
If a guy is decent and honest, which means he may open the door for you, because that is polite and nice, he will still prefer blue over green, because that is HIS favourite color, and not change to green, just because SHE prefers green.
The " nice guy" will open doors, and expect a thank you.. everytime. The "nice guy", will say he has the same favourite color as her, and then resent her for having bad taste.
Women like the first kind, but we dislike the second kind, once we figure them out.
The women who go for actual assholes, are the ones who are extremely insecure, and think theur way to happiness is through changing themselves to fit that guys ideals. That never works.
@@thomgizziz All these fishes will tell you to get a bicycle to catch fishes.
I only blame you if you ever ask any fish to teach you how to do fishing.
@@thomgizziz@thomgizziz um...yeah, i have talked to plenty actually, some closer friends even entertained the idea of a more serious relationship together, which i turned down (but not for personal reasons or out of malice, and they were fine with it) and all I had to do? By being nice (but not to the extent of losing my integrity and self-respect), helpful, responsible and by being mature when needed (perhaps some personality and character traits as well, but still). So either the kinds of people i meet are very different from the kinds that you meet (which betrays the generalisation made in your comment) or our definitions of "nice" are different (but if that's the case, then that might be a you problem).
I can't imagine anyone reading Roosh's college story and NOT come to the conclusion that she was showing interest in him when he was pulling away, out of concern for their friendship, even though she wasn't into him romantically.
Maybe in a parallel world, they worked things out platonically and he didn't go off the deep end.
Wait, what? She was showing interest but at the same time wasn't into him?
@@Lionmonkey4real You know you're supposed to be interested in your friends if your friendship is deeper than a plate, right?
@@crazydragy4233 that's not that sort of interest
@@Lionmonkey4real I really don't know how to word it any other way, you will just have to meditate on it longer.
Sounds like their friendship was pretty one-sided to begin with.
I remember when that "Return of King's" guy was trying to get into Australia and then had his visa denied on character grounds. He went on a twitter winge saying that he was going to get a boat from Indonesia to sneak into the country. That was the only time I have ever cheered on our intense policy of boat interception and offshore detention for people attempting that crossing.
he attempts to defend his claim that all foreigners are invaders by invading a foreign country himself
Trying to silence others... that is always a sign that you have the correct position... smh
@@thomgizziz go shake your head in a toilet , yo
@@thomgizziz some people need it, best to keep their mouth shut
It's really hard finding actual relationship advice without running into this manosphere BS
Pfft.
Maybe you should listen
@@theoneonly259, seconded, Pfft.
Philosophy is where i get my advice. Check out Camus, or Simon Beavour
It's easy to find non-manosphere dating advice. Ask your mom and a bunch of women in your life for dating advice and see how far that gets you.
The other reason girls don't go out with "nice guys" is that there's generally nothing actually *_nice_* about those guys and girls can tell that a mile off. The guys are following them around like puppy dogs, simping like crazy, and then get all "I did so much for her, I deserve her" because to them everything is transactional. If someone's being "nice" to a girl in the hopes that she'll fuck him out of gratitude, he's not actually nice. Holding a door open, doffing a fedora and saying "M'lady" doesn't entitle someone to sex.
as someone who is in the ideal demographic for these influencers like roosh v and andrew tate I'm rly happy to finally see that channels like these arent just ripping the manosphere youtubers to shreds and picking apart arguments but actually providing some level of productive constructive criticism to their demographic, good job! rly loved the video
Yeah. I loath the whole manosphere thing but using them to zinger-bate as I think of it, has not been terribly productive and may have actually made things worse.
@@Bustermachine Yah it's kind of like how the Media "pied-pipered" uncle Dolan Trump while dismissing all of the struggles of the voters he resonated with through his fake populist messaging. It backfired spectacularly on the establishment for almost 4 straight years and they still haven't completely learned their lesson from it
Scolding people and just talking down to them is a way to create a hardcore opposition. Really like Adam for doing something constructive instead.
I think the idea of being "challenging" still reflects a culture where dating is a kind of "battle of the sexes". You don't need to be challenging, its ok to be the guy who answers really quickly. If you have a passion in life and pursue self-fulfillment, you will find someone who will appreciate you.
I agree. Coyness and aloof bullshit rituals of romance suck. If you like each then fucking hang out and talk lol don’t pretend your not interested in them
My thoughts as well. Adam actually ends up perpetuating the same toxic talking points in this video just in a more moderate and normative way I guess. Don't understand how replacing one version of "just do this" with another is somehow superior or full proof. It avoids more fundamental problems with the culture around relationships in general imo
Adam is reaching self awareness levels that's challenging sentience
I think the main point is: it is ok to not reply immediately because sometimes you are not on your phone, it will not make you less attractive. If you respond every time, in every circumstances in the second it will feel a little odd I guess.
@@rolletroll2338 depends. If me and someone have a fantastic thing rolling, I’m not gonna think less of them for responding to me right away. After all, I’m texting them!
"If you were just a bit less self-aware, you would cease to be sentient."
This is my new favourite insult
!!
I actually tried some of these tips on a girl who was interested me. Surprisingly enough, withdrawing myself and not showing interest pushed her away rather than making me some alpha male chad. Crazy how that works 🧐
That's so true.
My understanding of the tricks is they only work in a scatter-gun approach where you don't actually care about who women are, it's just about getting them into bed. If you read the content, the techniques are all about maximising ratios: they know that the techniques will only work on some women, but they want to find techniques that allow them to successfully approach 15% of women rather than 3%. But they're not meant to be used in a targeted way to seduce someone you actually care about, since more likely than not she'll fall in the 85%.
@@SuperBrahimos then you're going to attract women who hate you and only stay around you for the money. Did you ever consider that gold diggers exist and will strike at every chance they get to get money from people, not caring if they hurt their "lover" in the process?
@@SuperBrahimos well you're going to have an unfulfilled love life then as you grow old and realize that the pleasure you sought in escorts could never meet up with the affection of a wife who actually loves you for who you are, and not your meat stick.
How do you know she was interested in you? You aren't making any sense. If she pulled away she wouldn't be having a relationship autopsy so you can know how she thought throughout the whole process. Good job at proving that you are full of sh1t.
Projecting insecurety onto others this openly and getting away with it just surprises me every time.
Because they usually say shit like that in a bubble of other fragile insecure people.
I love your pfp by the way
Funny how this statement may apply to one or the other end of this debacle.
Truth be told, while we're fighting each other like that... We ain't solving any real issue, plus it let anyone do anything while we're hyperfocussed on this BS. At some point we might even consider if there really is such a 'we' anymore. People are entirely disconnected.
I'm not surprised at all honestly their self-improvement advice is good but they are quite misogynistic unfortunately. We need more male role models in between theses guys & feminists that always rail about toxic masculinity
@@bobbyjohnson1086 Toxic masculinity just mean hiding your emotion from your peer and using masculinity for violence. There is nothing wrong with bodybuilder. But there is something wrong about crying being a taboo.
As a Czech woman, who mostly dates other Czech women, this is the most hilarious thing I've heard all month.
yeah I think the manosphere is a good reason to only date women and not men lmaooo
@@roosterman8601 i second this i see no hope for alot of my fellow sausage sapiens
Manoaphere seems like a different term for narcisism.
You failed so bad you had to date your own 😂
@@AC-kk3vo Just wait until you discover the lesbian porn category on the hub.
The fact that even with the massive amounts of red flags and horrible things Andrew has said and done,that people still like him anyways just cause he "says whatever he wants" takes away all hopes I had from humanity(if there were any).
😁 what about doing some "romance" in Las Vegas #🎯 problem solved 💃💏 that guy is not worth his freedom of being jailed by marriage 😁Ask Johnny Dep about that .. then compare him to Johnny sinns 😆
@patrickchinka After I know Andrew Tate, more I realized there are not just only toxic feminists women, also there are also toxic alpha Masculinist men as well.
feminist influenced young girls to think men are all evil and Cr,,ps
Alpha Masculinist influences like Andrew Tate can influence young boys to thinking women are objects
Both are problems that we need to face.
Trump / Charlie Sheen effect
He say a lot of stuff that people may like or not, but what has he done exactly? I just hope you are talking that humman traffiquing accusation, because as far as know it was an accusation only.
So you are basically like him you say "whatever you want", even if that mean lying and make yourself look like an idiot.
He actually has pretty logical views but trolls and says his beliefs in the most aggravating way possible
If gigachad was a real person, he'd be a feminist
then he would be soyjack you brainlet haha
@@kaoskittykat857 What you said makes no sense. If anything, the right looks more like the soyjack.
@@kaoskittykat857 leave your mothers basement
@@yournan504 only if you leave your mothers womb
I was very young when I was exposed to the manosphere, it brainwashed me into thinking that my only worth as a woman is when I'm married young, have a child, and live in a cottage built by my husband.
So I blindly followed femininity channels to be the woman I'm supposed to be.
When I started to date again, I tried to date "conservative" men because according to what I've learned from them, they are husband material whereas leftist/liberal men are "soy boys" who won't/can't protect you.
Ironically, after several attempts at dating those kind of men, I was left with nothing but heartaches from mistreatment.
Fast forward to the present, I met someone who is the complete opposite of my "usual" type: Atheist, liberal, and not against modernity. He treats me well and is respectful despite our differences(me being a Catholic, still a bit conservative, and is still very much in love with farmhouses). He knew I was a Catholic but he never belittles my faith and openly said that he accepts me for who I am while also being assertive of who he is.
He's hot and dare I say, manly as h3ll! I'm head over heels for him. He actually does the walk not just the talk, he sees opportunity in modernity and use it to his advantage, is open minded, respectful, assertive, doesn't shy from complementing me, accepts me, and even encourages me to pursue my goals and dreams and to be strong and independent.
He's just amazing and I'm so grateful I got out of that stinky hole called the manosphere. If I was still in that mindset, I would've lost the chance to meet and get to know him.
strong & independent? why you dating for? really? why? with all due respect, without mocking, why?
Congrats on your man !
I always figured the manosphere just made women more wary of certain kinds of guys, I honestly kinda thought it helped women learn what to avoid. Never even occurred to me that some women took it as a sort of advise of how to be
@@ffktrc Most people just want a family or committed companionship...
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 Just as manosphere dips into traditional masculinity roles and expectations, so has trad. femininity been used. There's quite a lot of bs in religious feminisphere that's the redpill equivalent for women. Since both preach to the ideal power-dynamic of the past.
That laugh after you said Serbia was... contagious
One of the problems is that a lot of those guys dont realise or admit how unattractive they are. Just because you are nice dosen't mean that you are atractive. I'm an ugly adult woman and I was very ugly and over weight in my teenage years. I remember when I tought that making myself smart and nice would make more attractive and I swear most of the bulling I recieved was from equally ugly boys that were super nice with the pretty girls. I'm 30 now and I can't even imagine holding the same perceptions of society of when I did when I was 15.
As a French there is no way someone wrote "Jean Batave is a martial artist from the Viking stronghold of Normandy, France" without pissing themselves laughing. Just the name "JEAN-BATAVE" is one of the most hilarious names I've ever heard.
4:31
you can tell this guy is insecure about being french so he has to soften the blow by saying he lived in a "viking stronghold"
LOL YESSS
I'm wheezing. Seroiusly, why though? Was he scared giving off some chaotic bi vibes, or what? 🤣
Viking Stronghold of...
Normandy, France
Yeah... Where William the Conqueror, 100% Viking man free download no virus, came from
Manosphere? Finally a spherical review of Manos: the Hands of Fate!
Nah, a complete spherical view of Manus, Father of the Abyss
Spherical bastards = bastards no matter which way you look at them (Fritz Zwicky)
As a Cubist, this bothers me.
@@Actual_Neanderthal Didn't know Actual Neanderthals were fans of Kazimir Malevich!
Wait until you realize a hippopotamus is not a horse despite its etymology
They do sound like good potential recruits for the Russian army:
"Bad boy head start? You'll get lots of it! Treating women as war spoils? You might have an actual opportunity to do so! And just imagine the viking vibe you'll get taking a washing machine paid "the old way - with blood" with you! Afraid of HIMARS? But have you ever seen an engineer that would match your abs? An alpha fears nothing created by such betas!"
Remember the image of the stop sign obscured by trees? Yeah, *insert that*
This will probably end that they will accidentally blow themselves up with a grenade
@@epicchk4319 Or blown up while blowing their sergeants, for that matter.
LMAO true
but you see, they will use anything with a hole as the war spoils💪🤪
@@epicchk4319 I remembered your comment recently due to a reported instance of a Russian officer causing a grenade detonation inside a building (that may've offset other detonations) that led to several mobilized soldiers being wounded. Details are scarce, but the only version I heard implies he was showing off with a grenade to increase his authority among the soldiers.
So... yeah. You are probably right. And they'll fit right in.
'If you were a bit less self-aware, you would cease to be sentient.' 🤣
I'm a feminine woman. What if I don't care about finding a masculine man? If someone is cute, and we vibe then great.
Ikr people just like to make things more complicated than they need to be
Same here. I just don't want a relationship.
Ok brokie
Pretty much all of Adam Somethings subs are effeminate pansies. None of them are masculine. Your Mr Right may very well be in the comment section. Ha.
You're just lying to yourself. Stop pretending
“If you’re in the dating field and the wrong women keep coming after you. The common denominator is you.”
FINALLY! THANK YOU!!! 😂
Most of the time, women don’t even come up to men. They also complain about that also.
My grandmother always said to me: "If you meet 3 assholes in one day, you're the asshole!" And I've found that it's a good rule to live by...
Is this also applied to women who constantly date the wrong men?
@@sn5301679 yes it does
@@sn5301679yes actually “if you meet three people in a day who throw shit at you and no one started rumors or is trying to ruin your image then you are the problem”
The funniest part of manosphere/pick up artist types is when they straight up admit their ideas and strategies don't actually work. In the beginning of every pick up artist book, they will tell you that this won't actually work with most women, you just need to ask every women you can. Well, newsflash, but if you ask every woman you meet, you will inevitabely find some who are just looking to hook up, no matter what sort of idiotic ideas you believe in.
Soy-Boys, The Golden One, and Pick-up-Artistry was all covered by Hbomberguy,
but the general Concept Of 'Masculine Nonsense may be
a Main-Point of the Third GOP-Video of 'Some More News'.
Yeah it always come down to that numbers game
When you combine manosphere to pickup artists you’re thinking about the wrong thing
True. Despite overlap they are technically distinct.
Years ago I actually came across some PUA material that actually advises humanizing and de-objectifying women, and focuses on healthy male confidence building, with actual practical tips like clothing, grooming, picking the right place(s) and adapting to the situation... I forgot the name and can't find it now, tho! Seems to be in the minority. I dunno, I could be wrong.
The manosphere does seem to have a HUGE overlap with neonazis, religious identity nuts, nationalists, and other conspiracy-minded right-wing backwardness in general. (meaning a consumer of A is almost certainly also a fan of B and C).
Seems to be marketed toward the same insecurities and frustrations. They're all attempts at machismo.
I dabbled in the manosphere myself a few years ago. What drew me in originally was that I was coming off a really bad relationship, as well as the culture war that went on around the time. I just kept hearing this content calling narcissistic women out on shitty behavior, then affirmations about how you gotta worry more about getting money, get some exercise, and doing things that make you happy, which, even now, I agree with, it's actually good advice. Shit, it's good advice even for young women: Work hard and do shit you like doing, ladies.
But when you start going down rabbit holes, there comes a point where you just keep going down a rabbit hole, or you pull yourself out. What made me pull out was just the blatant misogyny, racism, and self pity that a lot of manosphere members were presenting, some of them were content creators even. Like, how the hell do you expect me to keep listening to a mf say that because "narcissistic women get away with so much bullshit, that women's rights need to be taken away all together"? Someone tell me where being a confident and alpha ASF man comes into play when someone making UA-cam videos is bitching about women not being chained to a weighted ball and stuck in a kitchen, because that's some zero to a hundred shit to me.
Yeah, there's solid advice, but it's tainted by the fact that it doesn't just attract the desperate and helpless; It also attracts the biggest losers mankind has to offer. I advise any man to free himself from the manosphere and truly "GO YOUR OWN WAY"; Do the things you want, work hard, set goals for yourself. Take care of yourself, physically, financially, and mentally. Above all, appreciate and love the people in your life.
racism??? good job at proving that you are a complete muppet and are just parroting bullsh1t that you have heard from others.
My disgust began when I noticed the HUGE overlap with the spheres of fascism, racism, conspiracy theories, religious conservatism, and other flavors of right-wing backwardness. It's not just one rabbit hole, it's a network of them. You'll never stay in just one.
@@lexprontera8325 Hypocrisy, too. I originally disowned myself from the left because it coats its racism in a form of torelance (like saying all 3rd world women being uneducated, desperate and poor) as well as it keep demonizing men and downplay women's crime including rape and pedophilia (not to mention the MAP bullsh*t). I went in as a MGTOW ( I had only limit interaction with women only professionally unless they approach me for that, which just did not happened), but sooner or later, it became what I did not signed up for. It compares women to a bear trap, yet it tells me that to be a man, I have to stick my d into a bear trap as much as possible. It didn't take long before I disown amother movement until my current gf asked me out.
My point is, I ran away from one hypocrisy only to find another, so now I only want to see it all burned.
The fact that these people claim to be God fearing when all they want to do is kill, be racist, and have sex with every woman around them- it just makes me wheeze.
But like you said consistency isn’t their strong suit.
Fun fact: this isn`t elementary school and dating isn`t a problem to solve but something to live with
Dating is a solvable problem. With a possible several million dollar prize if it is fast enough as computer scientists would want to use it for problems such as protein folding
@@Demopans5990 nonono dating itself is not the problem to be solved but rather people being idiots in dating is the problem
@@Demopans5990 Hooray, quantum computers!
10:24 He's right saying he's a "nice guy" a term often used to describe someone who expects to be rewarded for their good actions, unlike actually good people, who do good things because its the right thing to do, and don't expect to be rewarded for it. The good guy doesn't hold the door open because he wants the girl's attention, he holds the door open because its a good thing to do, regardless of who it's for
"Hey, I consider you weak to open doors for yourself, let me help you" might not be a good thing.
@@PROVOCATEURSK No one, and I mean no one opens a door for someone with this thought in mind.
This principle of "Doing good is useless if done with an agenda, for doing good should be due to having a good nature" is ubiquotous not only in dating but also Christianity.
There is no shortage of people who obey the Bible in hopes of forcing God into a tacit procedure of rewarding good behaviour without accounting for the spiritual quality of the do-gooder. This results in a sterile form of ritualistic religiosity that God hates and Jesus went out of His way to fiercely blast and criticize in the Gospels.
No wonder these kinds of people either up taking their legalism to the grave with them, or they become Reddit Atheists; just the same as Niceguys end up becoming militant misogynists. (and no wonder there is such an overlap between the Reddit Atheist and militant misogynist demographics)
I’ve always been confused by the door rhetoric. Isn’t it just polite to hold open the door for the stranger behind you? It’s just a human interaction courtesy, at least in the USA. No need to gender it.
that's such a petty little thing to want recognition for anyway. It's a door, hold it for the person behind you and go about your business. That's not gentlemanly, its just how a society of non dickheads wrk
The manosphere is peak cringe. I know it may be a symptom of a lot of guys having a crisis of meaning in the modern world since everything dudes have been historically taught to be for centuries is changing. And thus so many of us are flocking to people like Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson. But this just ain’t it chief.
Men are realizing that school and feminist media isn't preparing them properly to be men who are attractive to women and they're saying "this ain't it". Back in the 70s or 80s guys like Tate and Peterson probably wouldn't be considered the least bit controversial. But now because people have an instant emotional reaction and can't rationally discuss their ideas, men are being told to discount them. Well, a central tenet of masculinity is not to blindly trust authority so I don't see it as a bad thing that people are flocking to them. Either compassionately listen to their struggles and give them better, more compelling ideas worth listening to, or others will. It's as simple as that.
What’s wrong with Peterson? He tells men to look to themselves for the problem, not the women the man surrounds himself with.
I agree and yet I don't think you can generalize like that. Smart, witty and friendly isn't a new concept of manhood, is it?
Men are criticized for everything: play video games? Grow up!! work 14hr a day? You are not dedicating time to your family!!. Pursuit a high-paying tech job? They are not leaving high-paying jobs to women!! pay gap!! Are you broke? Not a good provider!! Dammed if men want to better themselves, dammed if they don't.
😁 what about doing some "romance" in Las Vegas #🎯 problem solved 💃💏 that guy is not worth his freedom of being jailed by marriage 😁Ask Johnny Dep about that 👨⚖.. then compare him to Johnny sinns 😆
Please make a 1-hour long version of this. You're doing gods work.
You can also swap the whole "be hard to figure out" part as just don't be overbearing, admitting you are interested in some one can actually be fine, as long as you stay cool and are not horrendously neurotic about it.
@@JanFWeh I mean kind of, but any dating advice can technically count as pick up, if it's just "do x thing, to be more desirable".
@@arnigeir1597 I guess the order matters. "Have an actual life that keeps you blissfully busy, then you'll be less likely to be there for the other person 24/7. Then you'll be perceived as interesting" gives a different vibe than "Don't be there for the other person 24/7, so that you project having an actual life that keeps you blissfully busy. Then you'll be perceived as interesting". Adam expressed it the second way, but I think (and hope) he meant the first way but got reductive by trying to condense, which happens to him sometimes.
@@Elvalley true, being your own person makes you more desirable, but pretending to be one, is guarantee for long term failure. You can argue, fake it till you make it, but you have to actually get over obsessive dating behavior at some point.
Just treat women the same way you treat guys. Makes sense considering they are basically the same. I think people over-differentiate men and women.
Tf. Lmao you don’t treat them identically. My female co-workers I clearly can’t and don’t talk the same way as with my male co-workers, whole Different topics are on or off the table. Bad advice
@@samrosendahl392 Maybe you just have trouble with communication?
@@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463 or you communicate with women differently than men. Lmao do you go up to women and say what’s up bro, did you see the game last night? Treat women the same as men is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
@@samrosendahl392because you never spoke to a woman in your life😂😂😂
And that’s how we all learn that Adam knows how to flirt
He is gay
Adam knows Something, that’s for sure
I personally curious - how many intercourse did he get on such policy
@@ffktrc More than you 🤣
@@RavenholmZombie :))))) I didn't bet a penny on it
girls ALWAYS like a "bad boys", other thing, who they marry
It's unfortunate that people aren't addressing the underlying societal issue at play here. The manosphere is not the disease, it's a symptom of one that has been fermenting for a long time now
Disappointing that the left has chosen to chide and poke fun rather than get intellectual about it.
What do you think that issue is?
@@htpkey it's the marriage of consumerism and individualism painted on the godless background of modern Western society. Is the cause of most of the first worlds problems.
@@htpkey The gendered hierarchy of society with men atop women? I.e, patriarchy?
@@htpkey its hard to say, it definitely is growing from roots somewhere though...
I just know this is gonna be gold
@Tommy 🅥 ratio
😁 what about doing some "romance" in Las Vegas #🎯 problem solved 💃💏 that guy is not worth his freedom of being jailed by marriage 😁Ask Johnny Dep about that .. then compare him to Johnny sinns 😆
Re: nice guy stuff,
I’m a woman and I remember during high school there was this one guy who I was friendly with for a bit, but who always complained that everything was too easy (while still getting D’s and C’s in our class), always tried to prove to others that he was smarter, and just generally sucked as a person, so I decided to distance myself from him. He had my number from a group project we did but MONTHS later texted me out of the blue and was asking me why I treated him so badly. Now, I knew that he had an entire friend group with 5+ people, we shared ONE class, and me “treating him badly” was just me treating him…as a normal acquaintance. I just wasn’t interested in continued conversations, so I kept things brief and polite. But then he launched into PARAGRAPHS about how he’s “such a nice guy and always tried so hard to be nice” and therefore I owned him my attention. So I blocked his number because I had already said I didn’t want to talk to him anymore, but he just didn’t want to accept that. So then he gets ANOTHER PERSON who used to be friends with me to text me on his behalf saying “you need to unblock [this guy] he needs to talk to you”. It was just such a confusing and weird experience. The weirdest thing about it is that he knew that I was gay, so it wasn’t even an attraction thing. He just saw all women like that.
I like how you base smarts off grades that's don't mean shit and isn't connected to smarts .
Bruh and he was gay? What 💀
@@jasperhernandez7364, grades aren't connected to smarts. But if you are smart, you can probably figure out what exactly the authorities require for good grades, and find a smart and easy solution to get them without hard work. That's how you get respect and opportunities. Otherwise, what do you meed your smarts for if you can't even use them to improve your position?
@@jasperhernandez7364 Still, if he is smart enough, he would have figured out why no lady was remotely interested in him, and then made some changes accordingly. He would have known self-promoting himself isn't always the smartest idea.
@@jasperhernandez7364 to put it simply, you see yourself in her story and you don't like the reflection
How to be successful at dating and finding a partner. 1. Take care of yourself physically which includes your physique and your hygiene. 2. Treat people with respect 3. Be authentic to yourself and be the best person you can be 4. Realize that you are not owed a relationship, it is a precious gift that not everyone has, treat it that way.
Point No 4 there is really the key, and perhaps should be No 1. And relationships, by definition, take two. What may be terrible between one person and another may become an excellent relationship with a different person.
5. Avoid dating apps
I don't disagree with this as a general lifestyle advice, but that's not really enough for dating and finding a partner, unless you are very lucky.
Those are some of the things that certain figures within the manosphere are in support of though. I know this because I've followed a couple of these individuals in the past. I have simply ignored many of the things that they've said about women and taken, what I believe, only the good lessons from their videos. I haven't watched this video posted by Adam but I don't see the point in watching it anyway as he likely tries to paint them all with the same brush, all while attempting to make himself feel superior at the same time. One of the guys I've watched in the past (Richard of EiC) has openly advocated for all the things you've mentioned above and for men to become professionally successful. He has definitely said some controversial things in the past (stopped following him for a few years now) but those good lessons, of being independent, financially secure, self care, etc are still there.
@@generalgiovannicresvaresur2771 well, I mean, he does talk about more than just that. You litteraly did what you accused Adam of doing. Painted him with the same exact brush.
My dad told me many, many years ago : 'Men with a happy sexlife don't bother talking about sex . It's the ones who lack a sexlife that shout the loudests . He was right ;)
Making fun of men for not having sex like you are doing is common and toxic and explains why the manosphere exists and is so big. Be nice to people
@@minabotieso6944 Oh i'm the one being toxic now ? That's rich.
@@spiritualanarchist8162 „Deep Dive“, that’s waht this was but not enough!
Gravitas Video 'The Red Pill and Men's Rights' was really interesting, and we shouldnt ignore that. The Sexism-against-Men is real and would be objectively-proven even without the well-documented F-Up of the Judge at Timestamp 46:00. It's worth pondering, fellow Adam-Fans!
@@minabotieso6944 Men with a happy sex life don't mock others for not having one either because, as stated by the OP, they don't bother talking about sex.
Doesn't even have to apply to sex. It applies to anything. There's a saying in my country: "Empty jugs ring the loudest"
But Adam, have you considered that acting like an emotional stable adult might be too much for Andrew Tate?
"What are you afraid of bubbles?"
Stay broke and lonely if you want
@@j0nasss huh
@jonasss
*Laughs in Tech Bro salaries*
Also, being somewhat related to engineering means bdsm is on the table
@@j0nasss Andrew is technically lonely. He still does not have a stable relationship with a woman for at least 3 consecutive years.
Loved this video! I'll admit, I was a "Nice Guy™" from about 14 to around 19 (I'm 27 now). Then I came to the realization most nice guys never do: that they are in fact the assholes! And so I took myself out of the dating pool altogether for 5 years, not as some creepy incel, but because I realized that I needed to work on myself... I still was occasionally sexually active, and as I grew as a person and tried to correct my flaws of character I found that that introspection actually made me more attractive to women! a couple of years ago, I decided to put myself back on the market, but never trying desperately to find a partner (either for a night or long term). I just continued to focus on my own self improvement and living an interesting life. Not in order to be interesting to anyone else but simply to live life to it's fullest... I went through a few short, bad relationships, but now I am sitting in bed next to my sleeping girlfriend of over a year, who loves me for who I am, even with the many flaws I still have. SHE actually asked ME out! Not because she was desperate for a boyfriend (I'm her first boyfriend, but like me she has a history), but because she saw that I had tried to become a worthwhile person and because I showed her I RESPECTED her whether she was my partner or not, and was genuinely interested and intrigued by her but not in a creepy stalker-ish way.
Nice guys only think they're nice and girls are either stupid or corrupted for not choosing them because they lack any basic skills of introspection or self-accountability, and blame everyone else for their problems. My grandmother always said to me: "If you meet 3 assholes in one day, you're the asshole!"
„Deep Dive“, that’s what this was but not enough!
Gravitas Video 'The Red Pill and Men's Rights' was really interesting, and we shouldnt ignore that. The Sexism-against-Men is real and would be objectively-proven even without the well-documented F-Up of the Judge at Timestamp 46:00. It's worth pondering, fellow Adam-Fans!
@@nenmaster5218 I will absolutely admit that there are individual instances of sexism against men, but only in certain realms like family/ custody court hearings. However in the vast majority of cases it is men who are given the benefit of the doubt, the privilege or bias if you will, in both the eyes of the law and society. This concept ties neatly into OP's video on meritocracy. However, I'm speaking anecdotally on my personal story, not issues of politics in my above comment. And I'm NOT trying to get into a political debate, whether you disagree with me entirely or whether we're simply debating on the minutiæ of my statements in the above comment. These are merely conclusions I have reached through my own personal experiences.
Nice
@@jaydockerty7192 Well yeah, that just shows you dont know how bad the Situation is.
did you even consider the simplest explanation.....you have an ugly face? good lord , so many convoluted 8ntellectuaailistic explanati9ns. maybe your just ugly. i know i am. i tried so harxd tqo ex0lain why girls did not like me. i was shrek ugly.
That end comment was gold. Would you want your daughter to date that? Be the person you'd like your children to bring home is the perfectly succinct way to put it.
A lot of these "top Gs" might not even want to have a daughter though
"Would your daughter want to date that ?"
No.
But do I love the person I am ?
Yes.
No that end comment is pretty bad. These guys have very few experiences with women so are miles from being a father and thinking about kids. Would you want your daughter to date that is something young men can’t comprehend and that’s alright
6:59 Vaush representing both sides of the duality of man: soyboy and gigachad
The reason the "nice guy" fails isn't because he's nice. Pretending to be someone's friend when you actually just want to fuck them isn't "nice".
As a gay man, a lot of manosphere rhetoric is pretty hilarious to me, because a) I know that a lot of the sweeping generalisations that they make about women are equally true of men; and b) despite often trying to present themselves as being in favour of "men's rights", they couldn't give a shit about any man whose problems can't be attributed to women.
Spot on!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Being direct is "sexual abuse" if you are not handsome enough
Really like the men's rights point. Really pulls back the curtain well.
oh no, nice guy is not just the slimy friend type. no no its the avergae dude. get the average girl and act a little insecure and what not and youll see he sexdrive go down and the disrespect and shit tests up very fast. they are bored man. men are disposable. they toy with them. shit tests are funny, teasing and seeing how he reacts. gold what else to do in their free time. again not all, but way too many
True! I've noticed that as a gay person too and I believe that their homophobia boils down to their fear of being on the receiving end of their own creepy and obnoxious behavior.
Alternatively, they'll do another version of what they're criticizing women for which is way more dangerous. Women for example tend to get offended when you call them fat, but men who are called fat tend to internalize their anger until they lash out violently, sometimes against themselves; but they'll celebrate how "strong" they are for not getting offended.
Want some real advice for talking to women?
1. Forget pickup lines
2. Women are human beings
3. Remember their name (say it repeatedly, write it down, whatever helps.)
4. Respect boundaries
so when do we do the smashing?
@@kaoskittykat857 When she is into it.
@@laurentiuvladutmanea3622 if she isn't into it at day one, she never will be
this has be one of the worst thing on the internet all of these man are just scammers taking advantage of people who are just confused or loss in this world don't get me wrong iam not trying to empathise with them and some of them are bad people but there some young man who really are confused about every thing and these people turned them into bad people this is why i hate them
Capitalists are working towards a world where you cannot approach a girl for fear of being charged with sexual harrassment. Extended eye contact... The big problem they have is that its their wives and daughters giving me the f$&k me eyes - not the other way around... Females will always be attracted to physical alphas. Its biology. Capitalist betas can suck a $&$&. Do you think a leftist is more likely to he alpha or beta. Beta like Adam Something right? So of course you are on board...
yeah it's terrible, I almost fell to it at one point, but I always felt something was wrong and that was enough to stop me, it's such a hateful community it's really scary tbh
😁 what about doing some "romance" in Las Vegas #🎯 problem solved 💃💏 that guy is not worth his freedom of being jailed by marriage 😁Ask Johnny Dep about that .. then compare him to Johnny sinns 😆
Mainstream society offers no other alternatives but generic platitudes and advice. This is why I many men are drawn to figures in the manosphere. They don't always have good solutions but they are at least acknowledging and validating the things men go through.
As someone who spent his childhood in a Czech village, the xenophilix nature of the Czechs really had me laughing
Great video.
Two additional things.
Insecure people are easier to manipulate with the manosphere cookbook. We unfortunately live in a society where especially young women are pushed into placing their sense of self worth into how superficially attractive they are to others. (Although there is some research that suggests that this is unfortunately more true for young men as well. Not the kind of equality we were hoping for.) This insecurity is a lever that can be exploited, that is not completely false. Like you said, it tends to work less and less as life goes on and people grow up.
Second thing. Being a manipulator who can play people is a skillset that can be increased by training. Spycraft is a lot more about that than about parkour and shooting. Mentalists and stage magicians have a different variety of this. Grifters and conmen yet another flavor. But the fact that you can get better att being a manipulative bastard if you practice it constantly is a coin with two sides. The price is that you have to be that person. And when people get time, they will see through it. So you need to constantly be an asshole to people to keep in practice and you need to be constantly on the prowl for new marks. And you will get lonely, because every time someone gets a good view of the the real person you've made yourself, that's another bridge burned behind you. And for most people it's an ability that is hard to switch off. You eff people up every day at work, chances are you're going to come home and eff up people close to you as well.
"Women are drawn more than men to nonfiction stories of rape, murder, and serial killers"
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I guess blackpillers are right LOL
In a “wolf pack” the “alpha male” is called father and “alpha female” is called mother. So the “wolf pack” is called family. Then there is the teenagers and the evil puppies. Teenagers needs to move away from home. You let the puppies eat first because they have razor sharp teeth 😱
Ok you wanna know how to really get a girl you like. 1: Try to meet people in general. 2: If, among those people, there is a girl that seems nice, try to get to know her better. 3: Build a train. With their steel wheels on steel tracks, they are the most energy efficient way to move people or cargo over land
3 tip changed my life
I think every trick in the book all boils down to a single point: Just do your own shit. When you are focused on your life goals, everything becomes supplementary unto attaining it. In dating, it enables an abundance mindset which is healthy. In relationships, it avoids neediness or being clingy.
If you do a regular meditation practice, you can also see that this is true of nearly everything in life. You stop obsessing over acquisition of a particular "thing" and just pay attention to what you're doing in the moment, step by step, little by little, and then quite bizarrely many things you actually wanted come your way when you're not even expecting it.
7:05 is bait to get Vaush to cover this video… and I’m certain it will work 😂 well played. Adam was on one with this video 😂😂😂
Vaushist-bidenism with Adam-something characteristics ✊
Anyone else noticed this video was made before Andrew Tate was actually in a cell, bros predicting the future
he was arrested multiple times
2:01 This is a true giga chad move. That transition was so smooth best transition i seen on a sponsor and funny too!
Just the forced duality of asshole/nice guy is a weird narrative and turns everything on its head. It's always about "getting A girlfriend" (which objectifies this elusive thing that's called a girlfriend), never about "hey this person is cool and we vibe together". It's like they're starting with the goal and then they squeeze the world around it, like life was a freaking work project or an rpg campaign.
If I'm quite honest, I've also seen so-called "nice guys" do the same.
I think that's a source of a lot of the anxiety. Social expectations, the feeling of a 'ticking clock' before you're left alone. The fear of missing out on so many parts of the human experience.
When you start worrying about them all at once, it gets overwhelming, you can hardly breathe. And then you collapse into a very dark place. And at that point you'll take the hand of anyone who claims they can pull you out.
I'm not excusing them. But I don't think the fear is an invalid one. Just one that isn't being responded to in a way that is remotely healthy.
@@Bustermachine I get how that fear and anxiety can be debilitating. And I agree that societal expectations are deeply hurting us all.
It's exactly these expectations (well, the psychological systems that have created them) that I'd blame the most, if I were portioning blame. (Which I am not, I'm sticking to observing them now.)
There's no "winning" with them, every expectation is followed by the next. I think it's another ratrace, and as such, I get how people find it unavoidable, how many may not realize they're being the rats inside.
What if you don't "Vibe" with anyone you know? Checking for a Friend
@@savibang4412 then you can meet more people and hope for the best. I'm not saying "don't hope for finding a significant other", I mean "don't go into a situation with the explicit purpose of finding a significant other and nothing else."
You can tell their entire life experiences are virtual. There's no way any person who have actually lived in the world would think like this. I know the whole parents' basement dweller is a bit of a cliché, but it may be the case here.
That is why they prey on highschoolers and college students. By default most of their life is online and both girls and boys eat that shit up like hard truth
I mean, I should tick all the boxes for believing this bunk and even I know it's BS.
You guys are super toxic. Explaining how they are wrong is correct is good. Making fun of them and calling them names is bad and doesn’t deconvert them. People only living on the internet is not some weird fringe thing. It’s the new inescapable growing norm that is endorsed by society. People are lonelier and lonelier. It’s much bigger than these guys
"If you were just a bit less self-aware, you would cease to be sentient" is my new favourite insult, thanks Adam.
"Internet influencer get rejected from women in Serbia, Czech Republic, call their country pathetic and weak, and their woman feminists."
Such many cases.
There is something just so amazing about hearing Adam laugh
Reading stuff written by self-proclaimed "gigachads" in an exaggerated deep and manly voice to mock "manly men" is the progressive equivalent to conservative channels like PJW reading stuff written by leftists in a high-pitched voice.
I don't always know the first name of a UA-camr, but when I do, it's because someone dropped it in the comments.
@@jesserivera9704 His UA-cam name is literally Adam something.
@@localman9063 dude, I'm honored. You think I can read? Bless
One of the biggest fears that the fathers of daughters has is that one day she'll bring home a boy who was just like the father at that age.
Unless the father was a chill dude during his hormonal years. That takes some wizardry to pull off
The thing with incels, I can't look down on them too much since I'm pretty much exactly the same but left wing. 90% of the flak they get applies to pretty much anyone who's not getting laid and has self esteem issues. The way I see it, in a more gender neutral world it'd be easier for people who struggle. The saddest part is when someone applies to whole incel stereotype to you, and just how pathetic they find you afterwards. My depression and anxiety just makes dating an impossibilty, I literally shake and sweat when I'm nervous, and I find online dating even harder and more nervewrecking than a real one. Sucks that when you try and look for people to empathise with, most of them are extremely sexist, right wing and wallowing in the most toxic self hatred. Right now I just keep myself to myself
incel isnt gender neutral because women cant be incel. look up pig woman experiment.
I remember thinking of myself as a "nice guy," and lamenting always being in the friend zone, and being terminally online. This was right around 2010, I'm not sure how I avoided the manosphere and incel nonsense, but I could have very easily fallen into it.
The problem with nice guys is, they are nice because 1.) they are afraid of the concequences of not being nice and 2.) they think they can expect love/sex in return. But women hate this because it is a hidden treaty. They dont want to feel obligated to f*ck you but do it beacuse they are genuinly attracted to you. There is nothing wrong with being nice, in fact it is admirable but you have to be nice because you are at peace with yourself and love people, without expecting shit for it
You do know that the manosphere despises nice guys with every bone in their body right? Also most sensible adherents of the manosphere aren't terminally online, they're probably working out 80% of the time
To add to the "why date assholes" part other people's perception is also an important factor to consider. Someone might seem like a massive asshole to you but there will always be other people who don't see them that way. This is something that v much applies to dating especially if someone you like is now dating someone else and you feel snubbed. That feeling is even worse when you think you're better than the person they chose. There's always sides of people we don't see.
It's true that in my school time guys could be assholes and still get girls. They could however also be nice and get girls. Whether or not you were popular with girls seemed completely removed from if you were nice to them or not. It's a weird time to look back on. Of course most relationships back then didn't amount to anything, though I do know one couple who stayed together. Both were nice people and they were friendly with each other before and while together
Saw that too. Knew a guy who was confident, charming, talented, smart, in good shape, nice face and... small. A highly capable runt. But he was sexually invisible. I think there's obviously more to this discussion than reflects well, which is fair: we've all learned to admit male attraction has its issues.
looks play a part
people usually can pick up when someone lacks confidence or when someone only sees them as a bag of meat than a real person. i wont deny autistic guys, men of a racial minority and shorter guys have it harder naturally - but these men usually stay within their own league and once they hit 25 (when people have matured and prefer long term matching) then theyre pretty successful! Like that one Russian software engineer who was immobilised since birth and was a recipient for an experimental head transplant who then stepped down because he got a wife
Heres a tip to those guys: if you treat women like human beings, they will maybe like you more.
yea, they will like you so much more that they will deny you becoming their partner and mate.
get a second owl's eye dude
@@kaoskittykat857 As someone with a girlfriend, you’re speaking bs. Also, why are you on every comment thread?
@@allergy5634 as someone who had a girlfriend, you are a fool.
I am because I took it very personally.
@@kaoskittykat857 wow the idea of treating women like people is really something that’s triggering you. Bloody snowflake
@@kaoskittykat857 bros an incel 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This man just gave better dating advice than basically all self-proclaimed dating "gurus" out there.
No it was bad
Said npc
tbh even though i’ve developed a lot, i never fully grew out of and understood the whole “nice guy” mentality. it may be because i’m autistic but i never picked up that being emotionally open and willing to be my partner’s rock could be considered boring, mainly because i don’t see them being that way with me boring either. tbh i think guys also just need to raise their standards because if a girl really does only want excitement from you instead of something respectful and mutually beneficial, that’s not what you need. self respect is the only path to respecting others imo
I think Adam sells women short in this video. Some women DO want “boring.” If I want a serious relationship with a man, I want a supportive companion!
(I’m also 32, so I may be wayyyy older than the main demographic of young men and boys in the room here.)
This. This is the real redpill here: that women and are not a monolith, a hivemind entity with the same wants and desires. Different partners want different things and/or treatment.
There are definitely some trends in behavior like Adam laid out here, especially in early stages of relationships, but they're by no means universal.
@@WordyGirl90 In the video he's talking about high school girls. I think it's save to say that many of them opt for excitement instead of seriousness and support in their relationships. That's all prone to chance for almost all of them once they reach the age of 20, of course.
Also, he's not really talking about _all_ women. He's talking about a certain experience: that some "nice guy" got spurned in favor of an "asshole." In order for this scenario to occur, one has to be dealing with a certain kind of high school girls: one that seeks excitement before everything else. Thus, by setup of the argument, we're just talking about a subset here - one that doesn't necessarily include you.
I think it bears noting what "nice guys" are. They aren't nice, emotionally available people, they are guys who think they deserve a (typically sexual) reward for showing basic human decency or some minor act of generosity.
@@VeraTheTabbynx yeah that's what I'm saying, many of the "nice guys" from 10 years ago are now following tate and these other clowns, cause 'being nice' didn't make the chicks want them either, because it was all a ploy from the start.
Incels really just can't work on themselves. They can try anything else, trick people into seeing a facade, anything, just not genuine self-improvement.
6:50 hahahah when vaush showed up, in that context I had such a laugh cramp. XD Well played.
The line "If you were just a bit less self aware you would cease to be sentient" is definitely one that I will work into my personal vocabulary. Fucking brilliant.
Be the nice guy, if you like!
Be the emotional "tampon" if you want to!
That is not in particular boring.
The actual mistake is in thinking that with a specific kind of behaviour, you can get any woman (or, in general, any person). That is not how it works. Being friendly and respectful is always helpful and a promising approach to social interaction.
Interact with the person in front of you. Communicate with this person about what they need and what you need. And what each other can give.
Being nice is about caring about the other person as a individual, not feeding good boy points into slot machine to win the sex prize. As long as it’s authentic it’s totally great in my opinion
These cretins deserve nothing but scorn and contempt. I was a very shy young man and didn't begin to date until I was in my early/mid twenties. I never blamed girls or women for this, it was my issue that I worked on. I even dated a few girls that were 'out of my league'! One time a pick up artist type saw me with my girlfriend at the time, he came up to me and asked, "dude whats your secret?" I turned to him and said, "I treat her like a human being". It felt good.
Treating women like a human being is not enough to get a girlfriend and that’s how it should be. You guys need to admit that and stop saying it.
This is bigger than a personal issue. There’s more lonely and single people than ever recorded and we need to seriously talk about it. Telling people just outside and talk to women will not fix it. If you seriously have a problem with going outside and treating women like humans then don’t worry about dating rn
@@minabotieso6944 this guy is probs 6'3 with a symmetrical jawline, and he's telling ugly ass manlets who look like the hunchback of notre dame all they gotta do is approach women of any league and say hi 🤣
Dude stop lying... a pickup artist never came up to you and asked what your secret is. You lost all credibility and only complete morons would listen to anything else you had to say.
@@minabotieso6944 way to go, talking down on a decent guy for being decent.. seriously.
Sure there is a lot more to it than how you talk to someone.. but that is where it starts, is it not? With talking? It certainly should be.
@@Goldenhawk583 wtf is that comment? Yes you have to talk to girls. The manosphere is wrong. This commentor and video is wrong and not decent.
A pew research study from Feb 2023 found that 30% of American women between ages 18-29 are single while it’s 60% for men at the same age. This has nothing to do with blaming women but it is a real and big issue. It’s not an individual responsibility issue when it affects the majority of young men. 60% vs 30% is crazy
Because I was brought up by women (3 sisters) I've always had it quite easy with women. Most men simply don't understand women. One of my friends was once trying to get with some chick and asked me how I managed all the time. I asked him a few question he was completely flummoxed by: who is she? What does she want? what do you have to offer her? He didn't know the answer to any if those questions.
People are impatient... but they're also complicated, varied, different... and perhaps they're in a different phase if life. There's no one shot remedy to finding love, you need to learn about the other person before you can begin to even think if an approach. You're better off just getting on with your own life and just keep an open door for someone.
100 percent babyyyy this is it
no thanks i'll stick with screeching my mating call at the femoids to get in my white van
sorry bro, but being a nice guy that women use to get free meals is not being good with women.
"50% of female porn viewers admitted to watching porn involving extreme violence against women"
Romito P, Beltramini L. 2011. Watching pornography: gender differences, violence and victimization. An exploratory study in Italy. Violence Against Women, 17(10):1313-26. [Abstract]
@@josepheridu3322 well don't dish out free meals just like that duh. Women are human beings and human beings can be treacherous, just like men. Just make sure you know who you're dealing with.
As for porn and fantasies... just because people like horror movies doesn't mean they're aspiring serial killers. There's a difference between fantasy and reality.
I bet @@josepheridu3322 is one of the gigaChads mentioned in Adam's video.
It must be awful to be sexually attracted to people you absolutely despise.
are they secretly closeted gay people?