Which 60s Season Is Next? | Doctor Who: The Collection
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- With the excitement centred around the announcement of Season 2 coming to the Collection series, it got me thinking, which of the remaining five 60s seasons could we expect next?
Join me as we go through each of these seasons, look at what's missing, what's already been animated or reconstructed and the likelihood of these sets reaching our shelves in the near future!
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There are some corners in the Blu-Ray range that has released the most exciting Collection boxsets, boxsets that every Whovian would be interested in. They must be bought!
which are those?
@@danpretty970 Idk, maybe season 4's The Moonbase, you should go watch that one and find out
@@Icelandic_Sandi think this comment is actually referencing the Doctor's plea to the Time Lords in the War Games, but I could be wrong.
@@TediousMilkshake it isn't, I actually just rewatched The Moonbase a few hours ago. It's a small speech the Doctor gives towards the beginning of part 2. I could see how you could confuse it though, as good a speech as it is, it sounds more like a plea to a higher authority than explaining away something to a character who just said "I don't believe there's Cybermen here".
@@Icelandic_Sand oh, sorry. I must have been mistaken with the line 'we have accepted your plea, that there is evil in the universe that must be fought' and I thought that monologue had something to do with it.
can't believe this videos basically still relevant apart from the underwater menace and toymaker
For first doctor episodes like Marco Polo I’d be happy with a live action remake with David Bradley
Great video Adam I liked how you did the percentages of surviving/animated episodes.
I think season 6 will be the next b&w after season 2, simply because the only story needing work done is Space Pirates and it will more than likely be a re-con. 👍
I agree that season 6 is the next best choice, but as he said in the video, they can't do a recon of the space pirates, as there is nothing to reconstruct besides audio. There are no tele snaps
Marco Polo is one of the most likely stories to have episodes that still exist whether in private hands or in foreign archives the web of fear and tenth planet also having their missing episodes likely to exist. I hope that someone steps into animate what's left but unless Bill Gates or Musky wusky happens to be a big doctor who fan I find that unlikely.
Edit: What if they gained access to "THE KNIGHT OF JAFFA" and/or "THE WARLORDS" and they're going to surprise us big time at the event where they are screening one of the Season 2 stories, I doubt it but that would be fun.
I’m sure their has been a few of the collectors either admit what they have and they have many missing episodes.
And BBC archive worker’s examining people’s collection’s and have said the same.
I’m sure there are people with fully adventure’s if I remember rightly.
The missing Web of Fear episode is confirmed to still exist, it got nicked before it could be taken back to the BBC from -Zimbabwe I think it was?-
Nigeria.
@@chocofrolik834 unless it was destroyed by the bloke who nicked it or it was caught in a house fire or in conditions that would degrade the print. But yes it most likely still exists.
@@kylethedalek that would be so fun
@@alexanderbridges8442 I did read somewhere that it's believed he did destroy it so that he couldn't be held accountable but you never know with thes e rumours. That fact that the BBC have animated it suggests it's gone for good, unfortunately.
A great, bite size overview of the situation, and the limitations involved. The Space Pirates is a major headache for 6, but I still think that season is waiting for the firing pistol to sound (perhaps simply admit defeat on Pirates and do a lengthy making of? I know, I know.. I can hear the outrage already!). Season One has a similar headache, but Marco has more material at hand and I imagine the BBC would love to get that season out in time for the 60th. The major take away I have from your video, though, is how fortunate we are that S4 and S5 are in such better shape than they were only a decade ago. As fans, we really should take some solace from that alone.
People hate on "The Space Pirates", but the telesnap recon does it justice and it's actually a pretty good story.
Unfortunately all the Unearthly Child rights stuff might push Season 1 back even more 😢
The reason Marco Polo episode 4 does not exist as Tele-snaps is because Waris Hussein was assigned to direct the serial and did direct 6 out of the 7 episodes. He did not direct episode 4, he was ill. He had Tele-snaps taken of the episodes he directed and kept them. That is how they were discovered.
Great video. Hope they continue with animating the stories.
They should use reconstructions for historical stories if there are no good photos they should recreate it with actors and photoshop the original actors faces over them, also that process would be best for the savages and the space pirates as well and maybe for the space pirates they could recreate models shots. for monster centric episodes animations would be best
Enjoyable video breaking down the 60s seasons, we’re lucky we’ve have so many animated for Season 4 & 6. Season 3 seems like the biggest challenge!!!
Thanks pal! Honestly don't know how they're gonna tackle Season 3! 🤯
season three is almost non existant, and it includes the monster 13 part Daleks masterplan!!
Mission To The Unknown was animated by Ian Levine, several years before the UCLan recreation. Surprised how many Dr. Who fans don't seem to know about this, especially as it can be found with a simple Google search! (N.B. He also animated Shada some years before the official BBC version.)
I think that someone should come to my coutry Costa Rica in order to look for the lost episodes of the William Hartnell era, according to some people that I know those episodes were broadcast here in my country and maybe(with a little bit of luck) they are still available in the oldest TV Channel Company from my country, Teletica Canal 7 in San Jose Costa Rica
Costa Rica probably doesn't hold any Doctor Who episodes, as they were likely returned to the BBC sometime in 1972 or 73. Additionally, all episodes sold to Costa Rica are complete. Only 12 out of 17 of William Hartnell's first stories were dubbed into Spanish, and all of these exist in the BBC archive.
Which. 60s. Season. Is. Next. Doctor. Who. Collection
For Season six, just do an audio disc with narration for 'The Space Pirates.' Maybe accompanying illustrations.
Yup, an animation would be ideal, but that money and effort would be better spent on better stories
Videos like this make me wish for the Omnirumour to be true. Great work and analysis!
These are my predictions for the order for the 60s seasons to be released
1. Season 2 (obviously)
2. Season 6
3. Season 5
4. Season 1
5. Season 4
6. Season 3
Doctor who season 4, AKA Doctor Who : The Animated Series
Lol
With the animation of the underwater menace being released what is the percentage of season 4 now
If it's for Season 5 or 6, we would at least have one of every classic Doctor.
That would be a good choice for next 60s release!
Series 6 will probably be the next one sixth series box set because it is mainly complete it is just missing the space pirates which is the only one that is not complete and the invasion one and four
God I hope they continue animating stories. Even if they did it in a blu ray which matched the collection discs if those seasons have been released so you can add it in etc. the animations brought me so much joy and I hope we do get more someday. And obviously I hope some more stories pop up sometime soon again of course
What is the point of Blu Rays of the old series?
They aren’t true HD, there is better fan made restored clips in my opinion.
Until the technology changes I don’t think it’s worth it.
Why not get a fund raiser for everyone to chip in and get the best animation studios to reanimate all the missing episodes in colour too.
Or better yet get actors and remake all the episodes and use deep fake?
I would happily volunteer to make that happen.
Some of the animated photos are a bit uncanny and not that appealing to the eye.
They could also make the box sets with the missing episodes but have link to the internet for you to get the missing episodes added to the disk once they have been found or remade?
I think we’ll either get season 1 or 6 next for Black & White who
Talking about the Collection sets - I don't know if you've ever talked about this before but do you think we'll get a Wilderness Years set at some point ?
I would LOVE to get a Wilderness Years set some day! Even if the TV Movie is the main feature, but if they found a way to include the charity specials: Dimensions in Time, Curse of Fatal Death and a whole bunch of the quirkier stuff that appeared during the 90s!
@@AdamMartyn I mean if it was just generally Wilderness Years then there's always Scream of the Shalka and if possible the webcasts of Real Time, Death Comes to Time and Shada too ! It'd be exciting if they did manage to do a boxset, try and get Grant and Jacobi for a behind the sofa !
I pray someone invest in the missing episodes and animation can be completed. That would be the perfect answer for me.
I second this!
What if they got David Bradley to re-create the missing episodes? For season 3
This was really well done. Personally, I'd be fine even if missing episodes were audio only. That's how I "watch" them now anyway is back and forth between dvd and cd to get full story. At least what exists would be on superior Blu-ray and in one case instead of 7+ individual dvd cases plus cd audio sets. But I also understand them wanting something visual since it's bluray.
Well, now that the BBC has come to a deal with Disney regarding distribution of new episodes abroad, I wouldn't be too surprised if they started funding animation for missing episodes as well. If so, that would be great news for the collection range. Fans would riot if seasons 1 and 3 released without animated versions of Marco Polo and The Daleks' Master Plan.
I just want to point out that on bbc IPlayer there is a complete version of wheel in space with telesnaps
Could easily mean Season 5 on the horizon since it’s the only missing and not yet animated story from that season.
I know what I would do for "Marco Polo": Have David Bradley play the Doctor, and recreate it, like "Mission to the Unknown" except on a larger scale. But only if Waris Hussein directs! Because he's still around, this is the only story I'd recommend this treatment for (although I could also see it working for "The Myth Makers" or "The Savages"). A nice plus would be having the Asian characters played entirely by Asian actors this time around. On the other hand, "The Celestial Toymaker" should be animated, but not in a way trying to recreate the look of its original broadcast (which the animations are getting away from a bit anyway). The animators of "Toymaker" should be allowed to do whatever weird, wild, experimental work on it they want, just because it would fit the story so well. Some of the fan animations I've seen for this take that approach, and they look pretty good!
The Loose Cannon full-length Tele-Snap reconstruction of Marco Polo (available on Dailymotion) is fine, and they cover episode 4 well. There was even an earlier colour one.
The colour one IS amazing which, for the benefit of those who aren't aware, was made BEFORE the telesnaps were recovered and I actually find it more enjoyable to watch :-)
One day all the missing episodes will be found. They have to exist somewhere I will always hope and look forward to that day
Episode 7nof daleks master plan was never copied and confirmed junked so that one won't. A slim chance for others at least
@Joey15811 well that's not bad for 60 years. Hopefully some day now that they have that deal with disney thay can make a decent recreation and animation of missing episodes. Definitely better then the stiff animation we have now for some of the missing episodes
OBVIOUSLY whats next is Season 2,its taken years for it to be announced so the speculation is pointless over what will be next,6months ago everyone was convinced season 20 was coming...they will get here when they're announced & released and not before
Season 6. Only The Space Pirates missing, which is quite forgettable. And we have a Hartnell set with Season 2 already, so Season 1 won't come so soon.
A recon of Marco Polo episode 4 is a problem that can be easily solved- Loose Cannon were able to reconstruct the whole story in colour photos.
The biggest issue with season 1 is the rights to An Unearthly Child.
I rly rly rly want to see "The Highlanders" animated. Jamie is one of the best early companions, and I've always wanted to see his intro story. They seem determined to animate every 2nd doctor missing serial except that one. Grrrrr.
Sorry but I don’t think season 3 will ever be released in it’s current state, there’s just too little there. I think next year for the 60th we will get season 1, 20 and maybe 25? But if it’s a troughton then probably season 5
I am hoping you can do more video scares
I'd expect 6 so the single release of abominable snowmen can have time to make money. There's no second doctor seasons released and wether Animated or not very little of season 3 is available and season 1s release would mean both hartnell ones are quickly done
So sad so many Troughton episodes missing my favourite Dr Who not a fan of the animation but appreciate the work
Would like to see recreation of missing episodes with real actors
All the missing stories were done by Loose Canon, they were done rather well, even using found clips and CGI to enhance the Tele-snap reconstructions. I'm sure some sort of agreement could be reached between the BBC and the creators of these videos for use in the box sets releases.
I think the next set will be a Troughton one just to balance it out.
Or who knows, maybe they'll stick to Hartnell sets to compensate for the lack of Hartnell animations compared to Troughton ones🙃
It's definitely going to be season 6. Frazer Hines confirmed.
S6 should be next. The Invasion is animated & no one likes the Space Pirates anyway.
I’m pretty sure this is why the Disney deal was struck a lot of that deal was to bring the world of who to Disney+ will help fund it and probably will do so with that deal
Can you please put the Valeyard into your title sequence....
Well it ought to be season one sicne it's now 2023.....
(along with Season 20 and 25)
I love classic DW 1963-89 especially the first 5 Doctors. I want season 13 on blu ray also would love to finally get The War Games on blu ray so I’m cool with season 6.
Some of these have come out completely with episodes on DVD already
Given recent reports about potential animations for The Smugglers and The Underwater Menace, things seem to be looking better for Season 4.
I liked most of the animated stories but that new Web of Fear animated episode was horrible lol
i want my favorite season, season 6
Hopefully they will do a special edition of The underwater menace with The animation
Who’s here after the underwater meance was animated
Excellent video. I agree with everything you say. All your opinions are well thought out and based on proper evidence rather than being influenced by personal desires to see particular stories.
Here after the celstrisl toy maker was animated
As if there's so many episodes missing! Great video my love and cool artwork 😎
Why not just re-enact the missing series?
I wish the BBC should wait until all the colour seasons have been released so that the remaining stories of Hartnell and Troughton have been animated. All of Season 6 is available on their original black and white. The Space Pirates needs animating on order to give us a complete Season 6 Patrick Troughton Blu ray box set.
I agree.
The more I think about this, I believe we're going to see Season 6 as the next 60s release. I think a Troughton is most likely to be next since they're just finishing up the first Hartnell one. You just take the loss with The Space Pirates... do the best you can w/ a making-of and a reconstruction, include the narrated audio version and existing episode. It's one of the less-wanted missing stories anyway. Ironically, because so much exists it's the least-represented Troughton season on blu-ray, so it'll be nice to change that!
Your point about giving a little time between the animated releases and a full Season 5 set makes a lot of sense to me. I also think Wheel In Space makes a lot of sense to animate if a source can be found for funding. For all those reasons, I think Season 5 is a few years out.
Season 1 is the next most likely. I think the idea of doing that for the 60th anniversary makes some sense, but we're already pretty sure that Season 20 will be coming out next year -- and an anniversary season (w/ an anniversary special) is a great way to celebrate another milestone. If we went back to 3 per year, I could definitely see Season 1 coming out at the end of the year next year though.
Seasons 3 and 4 need the most work for sure. Season 4 will make a nice set eventually, but I'm really not sure what they're going to do with Season 3. I think you're right that it'll be the last one of the range... and could potentially see The Collection going out w/ a bit of a whimper. I'm interested to see what they come up with, but I expect we'll be waiting several years to see it.
Great video!
And some people find The Space Pirates somewhat....boring. They could include a video of paint drying as a substitute.
i would have to say season 1 or season 6
I would love Season 1 to be The Next season of the 60s era to get blu ray treatment
Provided they've got something planned regarding Marco Polo then I'm all for it!
@@AdamMartyn there's still a chance of Marco Polo being animated
@@benmiller3252 Marco Polo is being animated? By whom?
@@OrangeAceGaming well BBC America pulled themselves out of the future of missing episodes of Doctor Who maybe there's a chance that streaming services will pick it up.
The new logo will look so good on the Tom Baker boxsets.
It certainly would! Though RTD confirmed on Instagram that the current logo on the Collection sets won't change!
Season 2 has been officially announced as the next release
I bet they’ll do all the black and white seasons within the next 6/7 years bar Season 3. There will probably be some kind of big radio silence about it from the BBC. Leaving the fan base to sort of hype itself up with what’s going to happen to it and then probably like 6/7 years later after the rest of the collection is done. They’ll surprise drop an announcement I reckon.
Otherwise, not the foggiest. But yeh I personally think either Season 1 or 6 will be next.
If I could pick I want season 1
Good choice!
@@AdamMartyn massive hartnell fan
But season 2 is the season I've always wanted
When do you think it will be realased
The Wheel in Space has a good photo recon on Britbox, so you could say that Season 5 is 100% complete. (If they're able to release it on home video)
I believe if they do another 60s Collection, it’ll be Season 5. It’s the right way to introduce the Second Doctor to the range, having many of his most iconic episodes, and all but one missing serial from it’s been animated now. So while Season 1 and 6 are more complete, there’d be more demand for 5.
I’m curious how they’d handle the Third Doctor’s first and last seasons though, since they’re the only ones to not have any surviving regulars, making a trailer tricky to think up for them. I really hope that for Season 11’s trailer, they get the cast of The Sarah Jane Adventures to represent her first season.
That mission to the unknown reconstruction is phenomenal - and definitely worth watching
It's so good isn't it! Definitely needs to be on the Season 3 set whenever it comes out! Even as the main placeholder for MTTU!
@@AdamMartyn I am slightly biased - a couple of my friends provided the Daleks for the filming 😉
At this point, they have no reason to hold back the 60s seasons since they have shown they have no interest in animating the stories that have not been done so yet. Thus, I hope they just give us Troughton's three seasons over the next three years since each season is missing a story. It's not like they are going to bother animating it.
Season 4 has smugglers, Highlanders and Underwater missing.
Underwater Menace as the reconstructions though. I did forget about Smugglers, however, as I keep forgetting there are two Hartenl stories in Troughton's first season.
Daleks Master Plan will be animated strictly on the fact that it’s a dalek story alone. That’s a given. But other than that, they might do celestial toymaker as well. But those are the only two I think they’ll animate from that season
Great video covering everything :) I really hope that animations start again soon, we were on such a good track before
Fingers crossed that a new investor is found!
6 has the least missing (non-animated eps) and being a Pat is more likely than getting a second Hartnell straight away. TSP is a pain but it seems clear they're not waiting around for them to find more money in the kitty for animations.
Surely will be Season 6 just because it’s the closest to complete of Troughton’s.
I think Season 6 is most likely to be next in terms of 60s Seasons as the great thing about that one is it only has 7 missing episodes and two of them (the Invasion) have been animated, the ones that haven't are all of the Space Pirates minus Episode 2 which does exist. And if they do Season 6 that would mean we have a "Collection" boxset for EVERY Classic Doctor!
That would be ace! Just wonder what they'll do for Space Pirates since no telesnaps exist 🤔
@@AdamMartyn Something like the Loose Cannon recon on Dailymotion, I expect.
Nah, I don't thinks recons are good enough for the Blu-ray release. I have all the audios and of course the lost dvd collection already so buying it at a premium again to me does not make much sense. I recall back in the early 90's you could "watch" these recons for free on the ABC or BBC website, they had a few snippets of sound but were mostly txt explaining the story and were an awesome feature now is no longer accessible. I believe that they will slowly release animated versions and eventually release them in the Premium Blu-ray box sets for the future.
For the 60th anniversary it should be season 1 (Hartnell was my Doctor!). But, if not for Patrick Troughton's Doctor, we would not be where we are today.
If bbc puts out blu ray sets with missing episodes done only in telesnaps they will be crucified by most fans and will get very little to no casual fans buying it.
If disney buys rights for doctor who streaming that mobey should go towards animating the rest of the missing episodes. Doctor who brings in enough funding but how the bbc works they cannot just apply all if it to DW they have to spread it around. But if disbey is paying for DW then that mobey should really go heavily towards lost episodes.
2023 will concentrate on anniversary sets . Therefore I believe seasons 20 and 25 will definitely be released next year . IF another black and white release comes out next year , it will be season 1. Of course , there may be an announcement regarding missing episodes rediscovered…. But that’s a big reach …
I did hear that Season 20 might be next, but I do agree with Robert about Season 25.
That Season 5 Patrick Troughton Cover mockup looks great! I do hope that with all these fan mock ups Lee Binding doesnt feel like pressure to make his completely different. Its a silly worry but i do think about it, and i wonder was it the case with the season 2's cover
I hope we get another investor. Space pirates is awful as a recon. Its a more visual story and a recon drags and gives the story its dull rep.
Wheel and space is a cyberman story so why it wasn’t done baffles me.
I personally think we could use a couple of investors.
One team to tackle season 3.
While the other team work on the other 5 seasons to get them all complete.
I’d rather get 4 finished first though as it is my favourite season
Season 1 I do believe is likely for next year, but I do think a Troughton set will be released before another Hartnell. As with the leaks therefore I believe that the next 3 collection sets will be Season 20, Season 6, and Season 1. Possibly another Pertwee set (Season 9?) before 20 though. Season 3 is likely to be the very last Collection Set released unless they start to do them for the new series.
I'm hoping season 4
I hope we get 20 next
Maybe they could hire big finish to turn the Missing stories into Audio Dramas, at least if they're pulling the funding for the Animation
Now that would be a cool idea!
I really hope one day all the lost episodes get animated. I personally really can’t enjoy the tele-snap reconstruction and to actually be able to sit down and watch every episode would be amazing
Some of the missing episodes can be animated in Black and white or in Colour.
I think the next one out of these five to release seasons would be season 5 after they sort out wheel in space so they would have at least one doctors story released on dvd. My favourite season though to see is the one with most missing episodes hopefully one day the myth makers the dalek master plan and the celestial toymaker will be found or restored these are the area in who that is most damaged with missing episodes
I hope that isn't an anachronistic tricolor on the cover of the vinyl "The Massacre"!
The bbc should ask josh snares if they can use his dalek masterbplsn recons
I would agree with the idea if Season 1 being next to tie with the 60th. And Season 3 pushed to the end of the range.
Seeing the percentage of completion of each season with animation makes me sad the animations have stopped for now. That being said I'd buy Seasons 1, 4 5 and 6 as they are. (Already ordered 2)
Season 3 though I'd have a hard time paying as much for if most of it is photo reconstructions or audio. If they do go that route that'd be the only one I'd wait for the standard edition for.
I reckon it’ll be season 1 to tie in with the 60th.
Should add the students version I watched it and totally love the reconstruction of lost episode.
Didn't Ian Levine put together an animation team for Mission to the Unknown, a few years back? I recall seeing it here, and it was pretty well done. I'd like to see it again, except the powers-that-be had it taken off, and it hasn't been officially released on DVD or Blu-ray as yet.
Well there was the live action one that I think you can still find, and it's accurate
Can’t believe everyone is happy with this. They couldn’t even replace the lost episodes with cartoons before releasing. What a quick cash in.
I think you made an error on s5 there’s 18 episodes missing
I definitely did! My mistake!
I am hoping for season 21 next
It's Possible but I don't know yet.
Can't they reshoot them
But they can animated these lost episodes
I’d buy a Troughton box set in a heartbeat. He’s my favourite doctor and it’s such a shame there’s so much of his stories that are gone
Jolly good video Adam!
Thanks Roger!
@@AdamMartyn No worries Adam!