Two Subarus in the Oregon Dunes
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- We return to the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area, this time with friends Aaron and Sarah in their Crosstrek, in an attempt to explore and film the area more completely than last time. Some unanticipated changes in conditions make things more complicated than expected. With my focus shifted from filming to just getting us through, the results are not quite the dunes experience I originally set out to capture.
Here are some relevant links from the video:
Our previous visit to this area, complete with maps & practical info:
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@pnw_crosstrek's wheels: Method 502 Bronze 15x7 5x100 +15
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Black Rhino Boxer wheels on my Forester:
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Special thanks to my son Colin who did nearly all of the camera operation on this excursion, bringing his own vision (and his GoPro Hero 7 Black!) to the table. Without him there would have been no video.
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Thanks for this. I watched this with my 2006 outback. It made our day.
Thanks for watching!
lol :)
That water crossing with the Jeeps was epic! Awesome footage and edit dude! 👍🏼
Thanks Shawn!
@@softroadingthewest They have built up that area , now it's high and dry !
Last year I turned my 08 WRX in for a 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. Would of loved to have stayed Scoobie, but it just didn't have the options I wanted in a bigger travel friendly vehical with 4WD or AWD options. I would of been the guy saying, "come on little brother you can make the crossing. You can do it."
Camaraderie! That's what makes the offroad community!
Great video! In my (somewhat limited) experience Subarus do pretty good in soft sand. It's great to see the Jeep guys being supportive!
I am of the view that this is one of the best footage of Subies off-highway.
Love your build and your videos! I want those same tires\wheel and a 2" lift on my Outback! Have the wife about 15% convinced it's a good idea. Wish me luck!
That combo plus the lift not only looks great on the Outback, it definitely improves your off-pavement capabilities. I'm sure your wife wouldn't want you getting stuck out there! ;^) Good luck!
This was such an entertaining video Donald! Your camera angles were on point! You'll be the reason I'll be buying a gopro suction mount! It was very nice of the green jeep Cherokee to to help you guys out. A good attitude is contagious and it seems like that got the Jeep crew involved in helping you guys find your line through that water crossing. You talk about the important things and offer information to your viewers, I personally really enjoy video's like this! Keep up the awesome work! You're almost to 1K! You'll be there in no time!
Thanks Jon! All the camera credit goes to my son who handled the filming. He did all the GoPro placement and other manual shooting. I only shot a couple of the clips in this one. BTW he uses a clamp, not a suction cup. It works great, though it does limit the placement somewhat...he used the door handles, the roof rack, and the light bar. Some of the ultra-low tire shots he just did manually using a selfie stick. I did use @silver_rd1's suction cup mount for one of my trips however and was entirely impressed...that definitely opens up more options for getting interesting angles and I think that would be my first choice when I eventually get my own &$%*! GoPro. A good idea I saw recently was to tether the suction-mounted GoPro with some kind of cord just in case the suction cup lets go.
Agreed! Well said!
Love how you show what a subi whith not a big bunch of mods can do, and the fun you can get out of it
Tires and lift, those are really all it takes to increase the capability. All the other stuff just makes life easier. 8^) Thanks for watching!
Fantastic vid documenting the off-roading prowess of Subarus, and both of your guys' rigs are awesome.
Fantastic video Donald! Colin did a great job filming and your editing was wonderful! Brings back some special memories for me! Thanks!
Colin has really become a good camera operator. So glad he was along, would've been no video to edit otherwise! Thanks Dan!
Had to watch this again.. still suspenseful!
I have gotten to do a little beach driving in Washington, with a couple Subies we’ve owned over the years. I Was always very impressed with how “sure footed” they are in the soft stuff.
footage and your calm voice is a pleasure to watch, no need to speed through parts though, id gladly watch in normal
Nice video! I have had 3 jeep wranglers (which i still love) and 2 cherokees, I am on my 2nd Crosstrek 2021; I just love this car (cant wait for the Crosstrek Wilderness to come out) anyway, just starting my build. She's going into the shop Dec 8th for a 2" lift, Downsizing to 17" instead of 18" rims and Pirelli Scorpion All Terran Plus tires 225-65-17. I have run Yokohama and Falkens (both great tires) but I wanted to try something a little different. Again great video guys. keep them coming.
*Symetrical AWD*
For the drives who do not really care what the terrain is.
Looks like fun. I just did my first drive on sand this last trip at Christmas Valley. It was a blast! Keep up the good work. George.
It IS fun isn't it! I've been really curious about the Christmas Valley dunes so I'm looking forward to seeing that. Thanks George!
@@softroadingthewest Christmas Valley was fun, but to me the area did not seem too big. I hope I got some good shots. Going to be awhile before I get those videos up. I am working on a day trip now and then a 4 day trip after that. It gets busy when you do trips back to back. George.
Good Job Colin. That was a great video.
Excellent off road adventure. Amazing video shots. I'll have to live my off roading adventures vicariously through you until I get some AT tires and a lift. That looks like a huge area to navigate. Kudos for making the trip and this video.
Thanks! Yeah, there's a lot of ground there to explore, we didn't even come close, just drove the length and back along the damp edge, but laterally there are endless rolling dunes, "tree islands," ponds, as well as some very challenging marshy sand "roads" through the coastal forest that look interesting but which I would never ever tackle in the Forester unless I was rolling with a couple of built Jeeps with experienced drivers. And there are a few more of these large open OHV areas in other dunes elsewhere on the coast to the north and to the south. I don't quite have the confidence to set out over the expanse of large, purely dry dunes...in the tiny bits we did I can already feel how close the car is to getting stuck all the time. I obviously carry recovery gear but my favorite recovery method is not to get stuck in the first place. 8^D Thanks for watching!
Those Wheels and Tires are just so so Clean.
Haha, yeah, @pnw_crosstrek *always* rolls super clean. I never wash my car before an excursion since it's just going to get dirty, but I actually did this time because I thought it would stay pretty clean on all that dry sand, heh. Something else that didn't quite go according to plan. 8^D Thanks for watching!
Well done video. Looked like fun.
Loving the dunes
You went across that creek like gogo gadget suspension...🤪🤪😜😜😜
long antennas are beautiful. i want too :)
The jeeps literally drained the pond before you go. Putting a tarp on the hood going down in front of the bumper is great also to block water from going inside the engine bay. These sandy spots are so nice to drive on. Feeling kinda free.
Andy Cyr oh that’s a great tip... I will keep that one in my back pocket. I always have an extra tarp in the car...yet another great reason to carry one or two.
Thanks for the metric numbers. Hurts my brain less haha
Man you have some beautiful place out there, Here in NY everything is posted no vehicles. Adirondaks is snowmobile only. Can't even ride quads without getting busted anymore. I grew up in the 70's we would leave our house on motorcycles in the morning and come back for dinner. Not anymore.
Hey I put my dads 22b when I was 14 years old through 2’ of water
He never knew until a day later when the sensor went off that the filter had water in it , just thank god it didn’t cut the engine on the highway and I get arrested in ny for no license = )
Love my crosstrek!
I know the struggle of "how I'm gonna edit this video and share my story" ahaha and also the "should I go through this massive puddle ?" And you did a good job for both of them 👊
But now I really want to try dunes driving ... Morocco is not that far 😶😬😇 I just need to be careful and not loose the foz in the dunes #camo 😂
Thanks for sharing ! I really enjoyed it 🙏
Ooohhh...Morocco would be amazing!! Are there ferries that will haul cars across the Mediterranean?
@@softroadingthewest yes, it's definitely doable ! And I will keep this idea in mind !
oh wow that Jeep water segment got me 🤣
Great Video as always Donald!
Thanks Matt!
awesome editing! id love to see what you can do with a drone!
I am using a drone now. Some footage in my last "adventure" episode ("post-lockdown part 1") and will have more in part 2 coming up in a few days. Thanks for watching!
Jpr: "It's probably too deep for your Subarus."
Playful Recant: "I know. But, if we don't get across, who's gonna give you a ride home?"
Haha!
Good job on filming Colin
Man, Oregon seems like such a nice state to explore
We are indeed fortunate here. :-) Thanks for watching!
I live about an hour from the coast, I drive a 2016 forester premium if you ever want to get out and make some footage.!
Awesome video. Love all your trips. Used to have subi, now I’m in a taco.
Mmmmm...tacos....tasty rig for sure! :-)
Great video and cool videography!
BTW: what's your MPG after airing down and driving on sand?
No idea, it didn't occur to me to track that. It was really only a handful of miles, I'm gonna guess we rolled maybe about 10 miles total on sand, so ultimately it's not a huge consideration. MPGs can't possibly be good though as the deflated tires are like driving on Jell-O™ and anything even slightly uphill and dry, the tires are spinning faster than you're driving. Thanks for watching!
Hola excelente video saludos desde peru
it an awesome adventure
Really nice footage of a superbe ride ;-)
Thank you! I think we were too nervous to truly appreciate the ride at the time, but it's sure fun to sit back and watch it now! 8^D Thanks for watching!
Sacrée étendue de sable! Il y a de quoi faire des remakes de Paris-Dakar! 😂
Mine de rien, la flaque où vous avez hésité, c'est passé juste pour le crosstrek! Je pense qu'avec mon SF5 non réhaussé, ça aurait été une casse moteur... 😅
Sympa le clin d'oeil à ton caméraman du jour, il à l'air d'avoir aimé et s'être investit dans son rôle! 😉
Ahhhh le Paris-Dakar !! Je n'y avait pas pensé quand on y était mais j'adorais voir ça à la télé quand j'étais en France. En fait il me faut un de ces camions, là je n'aurais rien à craindre ! 8^D
C'est sûr, à part la consommation du bestiaux! xD
C'est marrant de vous voir parler français ici 😁
@@ALNSMOVERLAND C'est parce qu'on parle tous la même langue: Celle du Foz! 😂
А канал то растет) я подписался когда было 900 подписчиков, а уже 2.3 к 👍 удачи тебе, продолжай в том же духе!
Да, все прошло намного быстрее, чем я ожидал! Спасибо!
hi…..when you deflate your tires, do you have a small compressor on hand to air tires back up so that you dont have to drive on highway with them so low? thanks
Yes, exactly. I carry the Viair 88p for airing back up.
How do you think a stock regular 4x4 with low range & Open diffs would have fared here?
I went wheeling with a guy in a new f150 I was in my loyale it dose have the low range too but they were pretty evenly matched only I drove the Subaru home and the f150 went home on a tow truck 12k later he got his truck back
my Impreza with no low range I dought would keep up with a 4x4 with low range it just doesn't have the gearing to climb the steep hills
but if you want to go fast ish in the desert the roo will spank a stock rig however the lightly modified Toyota TRD spanked my roo in the flats and light woops so whatever it is what it is
I know I'm late to the party but did you have any issues with brake caliper clearance with the smaller rims?
No, while you generally can't put a 15" wheel on these cars, there are a handful of manufacturers who build 15" wheels specifically designed to clear the brakes on a Subaru. Method (on the Crosstrek) and Black Rhino (on my Forester) are two of them; Motegi, KMC, VTX, and a few others also make 5x100 15x7 +15 wheels which will fit.
@@softroadingthewest that's the info I've been scoping around for. Thank you
Nice! Definitely inspired to go check out the place. Do you need a permit to ride on the sands?
Yes, you need an Oregon ATV permit, which is like $12 for two years and good at any of the Oregon OHV areas. You can usually get one at local ATV dealerships (places who sell quads, side-by-sides, etc) though it may also be possible to get them online. A bit of Googlng should sort you out. There's also a $5 day use fee at this (and presumably the other coastal dunes OHV areas) though some other Oregon OHV areas have no fee and just require the permit on your vehicle.
Is the White Crosstrek ground clearance raised any or is it stock height?
They have a 1.5" lift, plus a slight gain from mildly oversize tires.
@@softroadingthewest Beautiful tire and wheel combo tho. I wonder if that bronze color will look good with a 2020 cool khaki Crosstrek. I know black would look great. The bronze is nice though.
bravo subaru
1.20 looks like you're driving a tank with the turret partially in frame.
awesome Now I wanna drive up from Cali to hit those dunes.. is your fozzie lifted?
Yes, 1" (front) / 1.375" (rear) lift on the Forester. Hoping to upgrade to the 2" lift eventually. The Crosstrek has a small lift as well. Thanks for watching!
i've not done much offroading with my subaru yet whats the long wire with the orange flag used for
Dune areas commonly require motor vehicles to have a flag. It's to increase visibility as you come over the tops of dunes and hopefully prevent collisions.
@@softroadingthewest thats cool thanks for the info
Ok, so next trip to US natural herritage via your well done video. But... You didnt got stucked so you could push litle more :)
Its amazing that you can enter natural parks and go thru them as you like... In here you cannot go even on tarmac roads without special goverment permission.
Are these long warning antenas just recomended or you have to have these?
You're right, I had that exact thought later...I think I NEED to go get stuck, so that I know exactly where the limits are.
Being able to drive in places like this is rare. It's only possible in limited areas designated for vehicle use, and permits are required to drive in those areas. This kind of completely offroad, off-trail driving is illegal in almost all of our wilderness.
The flags are required, it's for increased visibility, so everyone can see each other earlier and avoid head-on collisions coming over the tops of dunes.
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic as always! What do you use/recommend to "air back up" with? Was looking on Amazon but there's infinite options and all have mixed reviews.
Viair 88p. Going on two years, has worked out fantastically. I went with that after seeing countless recommendations for that particular model. You have to connect it directly to the car battery with clamps, so it's a slightly bigger hassle than a plug-in version, but from what I've read, the 12v "cigarette lighter" outlets often can't handle the power draw of a compressor and blow fuses. The hose on the 88p is long enough that I can just set it up at the front of the car and get to all 4 tires with the hose only, not dragging the compressor and power cord around as well. The other factor when shopping for compressors is duty cycle. All compressors can only run for x amount of minutes before they need to rest and cool down for y amount of minutes. On some of the less expensive models, the duty cycle is so short, and cool down so long, that airing up 4 tires can be a headache. The 88p has a very good run-to-rest ratio, I can air up all 4 without hitting the duty cycle max.
#SaveTheManuals i second the Viair 88p. Alligator clips are the way to go! If you have extra cash then onboard air can be good, but overkill for Subaru size tires.
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Where did you get your bullbar?
It's made by Rally Innovations, available via their website: www.rallyinnovations.com
softroadingthewest thanks man
Nice video! 16psi is pretty low. I want to go lower but don't want to curb a rim
No curbs out in the dunes! ;^) I would never go this low on anything but sand, I usually run about 22 on "offroad" trails. I actually went down to 14 this time because at 16 last time I felt like it still wanted to dig in too easily. I think I'm going to push it even lower next time, because at 14 it still felt diggy-er* than I would have liked.
*diggy-er, adj., The undesired tendancy of a tire to dig into sand rather than float over it, causing a vehicle to become mired and require some kind of PITA recovery effort.
@@softroadingthewest I often air down to 10 when there are sections of really soft sand. Just need to be gentle with your cornering or you will roll the tire off the rim.
@@personlikeu Yeah, I've taken to airing down even further on sand. I used to live in fear of losing the bead, but after watching a video by Seek Adventure where he kept lowering and lowering his pressure and driving hard circles trying to debead his tires (and never managed to actually) I started feeling more comfortable with even lower PSI. A few months after making this video, I got into the softest sand I had ever experienced and ended up taking them down to 12, which is the lowest I've gone so far. It sure made a noticeable improvement. Thanks for watching!
does anyone know what deflator kit his friend is using?
Pretty sure he's using an ARB deflator. It's a good system too, it pulls the valve stem so the air comes out faster, but you can check the pressure as it goes.
@@softroadingthewest thank u so much! I have watched so much of your content and I am planning to get a third gen subi like yours! Your channel has been so much help so far, keep up the amazing content
is the crosstreck lifted?
Yes...I believe they were on a 1.5" ADF lift at the time of this trip. They've recently made some changes to their suspension including lift, springs, and struts. Take a look at their Instagram @pnw_crosstrek for more details (and by digging back you can probably confirm what their previous setup was...pretty sure it was 1.5" but I may not be remembering correctly)
this is why i always say unless you're going rock crawling on the regular or is something you actively do....why do you need a Rubicon or a 4runner, etc....give me a 2" lifted Crosstrek/Forester/Outback with some KO2s any day. It'll handle 90% of off road, and get me to work without feeling like my as just got kicked 20 times like in a Jeep.
What did the Crosstrek use to mount the flag?
www.stickywhips.com
@@softroadingthewest Thanks for the fast reply and love the videos!
@@elitewarbeast1 Thank YOU for watching!
Song that starts at @7:30?
I think that was just something I pulled from UA-cam's collection of music for content creators. No idea what it's called, sorry. I have to be very careful about only using music which is licensed for this kind of usage.
@@softroadingthewest I couldn't help but jam out while the Fozzy was bouncing around on the sand 😆
Are the orange flags purely so you can be seen in case of emergency?
It's so they look like RC cars from far away. ;-)
While I prefer Sgt. SLaughter's brilliant answer, the truth is, it's so you can be seen sooner over the top of a dune. With Jeeps and ATVs tooling around randomly over the tops of countless hills of sand, the flag lets you see someone coming a few moments sooner and gives you a chance to brake or change course. They're actually required in all of Oregon's drivable dune areas, both along the coast and out in the desert - you can't be out there without a flag. I imagine that's probably the case in most dune areas around the country. Thanks for watching!
@@VKSgtSLaughter LOLOL...I'm never going to be able to un-see that now! 8^D
Sgt. SLaughter 🤣
Quantos Cvls? 140?
2.0 ?
Automático? 4 x 4 ou manual? 4WD?
ou AWD?
Obrigado.
Natal-RN. Brasil.
Forester:
2.5L NA; 172HP; Automatic 4-speed transmission (4EAT); Full-time AWD
Crosstrek:
2.0L NA; 148HP; CVT Automatic; Full-time AWD
@@softroadingthewest muito obrigado, pela atenção. Perguntei, por que tenho uma Sportege. 2.0 . 4 x4 - 4wd - a faxina e 4 marchas a frente . Look . Ser a que faz o mesmo ?
What's your opinion of the crosstrek offroad? Does it have any obvious weaknesses compared to the forested, any advantages?
Forester. Sorry
Well, I've never driven a Crosstrek offroad so I can't speak with real authority. But here are my impressions. There are a LOT of people running offroad builds of Crosstreks and actually driving them offroad...that makes me think it's a pretty capable machine. Equipped with the same elevated ground clearance and AWD system, and built on the same short Impreza chassis, the Crosstrek and Forester are pretty close cousins. The approach angle on the Crosstrek is not as good since it has that sporty front lip (part of why you see so many of them with their bumpers chopped or customized). I'm not familiar with all the Crosstreks over the years, but the 2017 Crosstrek in this video is equipped with a 2.0L NA engine and the CVT, and seemed to struggle a bit more than my 2012 Forester with 2.5L NA and 4EAT when it was time to deliver maximum power to the wheels for the dune ascents. That, obviously, is a relatively rare and specific scenario. I suspect most offroading Crosstrek owners will readily admit their cars aren't fast, but can crawl around most trails just fine. One other thing I like better about the Forester is how you sit in it...much more upright and truck-like, making it really easy to see in all directions when maneuvering around on a tight trail. The sportier, low-slung cockpit of the Crosstrek - to me - seems trickier to see out of and more, I dunno, insulated from the surroundings; again, that's just an impression. That obviously doesn't seem to be a problem for the multitudes who offroad their Crosstreks. 8^)
@@softroadingthewest thanks for the reply.
My point of view is that the Forester has always been the most capable vehicle off road among all Subies. It is designed to take its owner anywhere. It is designed for the forest and for the mountains. The engine has more torque, the CVT can simulate low gears, more ground clearance and still weights 1500kg. The crosstrek for me is like a taste of what a Subaru can do offroad. Well yeah people do offroad them cause they have the potential and are relatively affordable. But again, if you want a Subaru in its full potential youd get a Fozzie.
This is my point view and how i see things. By no means tmother Subies are bad. The crosstrek is a beast and it really depends on what you need and what you want.
At one i am sure tho:
It will never let you down!
@@moonsapling Hence the name, Forester ;)
Believe it or not I’m pretty sure I got pulled over at the Florence dunes with PNW_crosstrek, another crosstrek and a 3.6 outback
11:40, man I have crossed streams like that in my chevrolet aveo sedan 2wd, what a joke
These Method wheels are overrated smh
Stop the bad music already. It's not information, it's not entertainment, it's just noise, repetitious noise. We're you playing that music track when you were driving on the dunes? No. You would never play that music, subjected to it, you would not find yourself bobbing your head think, 'yeah, I really like that monotonous less-than-a-drum-machine beat' So don't do it others. 3:54 I had enough. Stop.