Deck or Engine? | Seaman VLOG 059
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2018
- Which is better? Deck or Engine?
A few viewers are interested to join the merchant marine. They have been asking for advice which course to take.
Chief MAKOi Seaman VLOG ep 059
Deck or engine?
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Here is my opinion.....
Before I went to California Maritime Academy I wanted to be in the deck department. I was good at math and knew something about navigation.
I met two retired captains. One was a marine inspector and the other was an insurance salesman.
Then I met a retired chief engineer. He told me if I wanted to sail my whole life, then go deck, but if I ever wanted to come ashore later on in life and get a good job, go engineer.
I graduated as a licensed engineer from the academy in 1980. I sailed seven years on ocean going tugs and twenty-two years on ships.
There are advantages and disadvantages to both jobs at sea. “The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.”
When I sailed, it was generally known that it was easier for engineers to catch a ship than for mates. Mates had to wait longer times for work.
Since I retired from being a Chief Engineer in 2009, I have been working as a facility engineer in a large hospital. The systems are very similar to shipboard. It’s a great job. Best “ship” I’ve ever worked on! Besides....I’m home every night. 😉
What abt the wage? Do u got a good wage based on what u did?
Are sure that if you go deck you can work only at sea?
Umar Aziz - Yes. The wage is very good. However, if you have a wife and family, it is hard to be apart. You will definitely be a good provider. One has to weigh what is more important. Money is not everything.
But, to answer your question more specifically, it depends on the contract. Back in the mid 1990’s I was on a government diesel ship as a Chief Engineer and only getting around $9000 a month (lowest contract in my union). My next ship was a steam ship, BP tanker, as a Third Assistant and made $12,000 a month (one of the highest contracts in my union. Both ships were basically four months on and four months off.
Александър Байданов7oo8 - What kind of a shore job do you think having a mates or captains license would be good for?
The best job ashore for a deck officer would be a bar or harbor pilot. Great pay, but also can be risky in places like Columbia River Bar or San Francisco Bar.
I suppose a mate or captain could get a job in the office of a shipping company.
There are just far more opportunities for engineers ashore than for mates.
Your observation is very limited to possible opportunities. I am astound to hear from you, being a retired CE, you are still employed. Aren't you tired of being an employee all your life? If I am a retired seafarer like you, I'd be an entrepreneur.
I want to be in the passenger / guest department
Hahaha
Lol
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I have never been to sea and now much too old to begin but I want to commend you on your videos. This one was very well done and I hope inspires the younger generation to chart their own path. Thumbs up Chief!
Thanks chief for boosting my confidence in my course even though I'm in grade 11 and many blessings to come in your life and stay GWAPO as always😎
Chief you are a very good guy to council that young person for his future. Bravo Chief!
Clear explanation! Long story short! Thumbs up & Thanks!
A truly excellent presentation -- thank you!
The advantage engineers have is that they can leave and pursue a career onshore, which is what I did. I had a wide choice of technical jobs.
Hi what type of jobs one can do outside of merchant marine with engineer degree ? Please can you explain sir !
Deck sir will do nothing offshore? To teach in university, training center etc...
@@alcriscauba9215 there are very few vacancies.
@@sneocatenaccio746 the list is endless. It includes manufacturing and maintenance, power station work, supervisory and management positions, safety positions, engineering insurance, etc. I have held Jobs in most of these and other positions after I came ashore and until I retired in my seventies. Engineers will always be in short supply.
Agree
I'm glad I found your channel via Wil Dasovich's vlog. You have really good content. Though I will never live the life of a merchant marine...it is really interesting to see your life through your videos.
Thanks!
ito yung vlog na my matutunan ka khit di ako seaman prang naaaliw ako sa mga sinsbe ni sir at khit english pa sya detalyado ang bwat salita na bibitawan ..tnx sir na amazed ako
Awesome video.👍 Me myself is old deck crew...and i loved doing it ....You can leave the sea....but the sea Will never leave You...✨
Excellently balanced presentation of the career choices.
Shout out to all the AB and the Bosun. Thinking of my dad and his buddies.much gratitude to the entire crew.
I has been worked as engineer about 20 year in many ship,after that time,I started work in industrial job...was very easy to get jobs,because we has a lot expierienci in many divece..greeting fro Uruguay
Two years ago I 've joined to deck department and I coulndn't regret.
Chief Makoi can you please make also a blog about what are the responsibilities of an electrician on a ship
Your channel is so helpful with us
Thanks sir Chief Makoi...
GOD BLESS...
may be my destination is flowing on ocean, I like these kinds of vlog!
Im at deck department but to be honest i love the jobs of the engine department cause i like doing stuff and fixing or building up things. But it's annoying that some of the engineers would say deck has a very easy job compared to engine. Guys you've never been on the bridge during maneuvering/docking operations. It is very crucial job since we are dealing with uncontrollable variables like weather,wind, sea or people. If we fuck up there is no manual to look. It needs a very precise decision making and quick actions. Not to mention during cargo operations. So dont say that we have a very easy job.
Yes, it is a easy job
Its an easy job
napaka easy niyan...kahit mga Fisherman di nga tumataob!
resti mocoy - I’ve been up on the bridge during maneuvering/docking operations many times.
It’s an easy job.
Ask anyone they will say it's easy job , we are in engine all day smelling like shit and doing hardwork while you guys stay in white shirts and chill all day
Nice video chief, cant wait to be onboard as an engine cadet! Your videos inspired me, i am going to be recognized this coming march. God bless and safe voyage always!
So, How did it go?
Where are you now?
@@jccone2424 onboard as an oiler in a bulk carrier and will disembark this month (end of contract & vessel sold).
I was on a brand new boat with no cook and hated it and was on an old fishing boat out of Homer AK and loved it because we had a real cook and he made the longest days seem ok
Nice video Sir, I always get motivations from your videos. I commend you for the time you have dedicated in educating we the upcoming officers worldwide.
Hello Chief, I just subscribed to your channel! I find your videos very interesting! It's great that you show day to day happenings aboard the ship.
For me 31 years in the Merchant Marines,Deck department, US flag. What a great life it was, I miss it!
Of all the places that I've been to and as many times I've been around the world, that was the one thing that enticed me to go to sea, to see the world!
Best advice that I could give to you is to make sure you put some of that $$$ for retirement!
Take care my friend,be careful! 👍🏼🇺🇸🇵🇭👍🏼
Thanks!
Very educational sir chief
thanks for posting alot of seafaring videos. it reignite my love for seafaring. i hope makakabalik pa ako
Thanks a lot chief Makoi. You gave me/us a bunch of information. Now I confidently decided what I am going to choose between the Deck Dep. And the Galley Dep. I want it both. But we all now that I can't do that. Haha sorry my grammar is not that good enough😅 I am now choosing what I want the most the Deck Department😊 Incoming Grade 11 this next school year. God bless to me😇 thank you sir. Makoi😊
Maraming salamat po chief Makoi, dahil sa inyo nabibigyan kami ng pagkakataong makita kung papaano mamuhay sa barko ng mga marinero.
Panay ngang tanong ko sa kuya kong bagong sampa kung anong bang mga activities dun , e nang dahil sa inyo nakakabisado na po namin kalagayan nya doon habang hindi kami nagkocomunicate sa kanya!
Job Well Done, Thumbs up po para sa inyo Sir!
Thanks!
Sir makoi maraming salamat po sa paggawa nyo po ng video malaking tulong po saamin ito ..mas lalo na po yung pag rereply nyo po sa mga nag cocoment..
Thankyou sir
Thanks for watching!
good explanation, i just finished my cadet program, the exam is next to become a deck officer.
Don't forget to hit LIKE!!! I'd appreciate it very much and it would be a great help if you guys SHARE my videos in your social media accounts.
As promised, I will be inserting a few of these informative episodes while I'm on vacation. These will be in addition to my upcoming travel vlogs and a BIG series of Seaman Vlog episodes I am planning to do in the coming months. So stay tuned. I hope you all enjoy this all new "season" of my channel.
This video boosts my confidence to take marine transportation thank you Sir
Great information really important I really enjoy this channel
I was a happy deck chief officer, good salary, adventures, travelling, social status, all of the good stuff. Then I retired to finally have some private and social life. And well, now I have an education and job experience that most people and companies have no idea what to do with. Instead of earning money I am back in university to qualify as a teacher. A degree in engineering instead of nautics would have been a much better transition into life on land. All in all I don´t regret my life choices, but sometimes I do.
Thank you for this nice video sir!👍 My boyfriend is also a seaman! With this video I already have an idea what kind of work he has in his new vessel. Keep it up & Godbless! 😘🙏😉
+Kathrina Dagaraga thanks!
Excellent video chief!
salamat chief malaking tulong tong video na ito
Future Capt.⚓❣️
Comprehensive. 😊 👏
Very inspiring, sir chief!
I'm currently reviewing for OIC-EW examinations this year and please help me pray to passed my licensure exams to become one of you in the future. Proud Marine Engineer, 22 years old here.
when I was 19 years old in 1980 , I always wished to join large merchant ship to be their cadet officer with the aim to be a ship captain one day . However each time I went for interview in Singapore, I was offered the post of "Owner representative" which I was least interested . With several failed interviews, I decided to join the Malaysian Navy and I was sent for a Radio Operator training to be one of the communication team, after several years, I quit and today I run my own business in education .Now I am too old to have those wild dream.
Good points Chief. When I am asked that question most people are astonished that a ship has three departments they seem to think they have to start wiping up bilge oil. I tell them that is a messy but necessary job it is best to decide what you like to do. If you like to cook, then the Galley is the place for you, you like engineering and mechanics, the engine room is the place for you, you like working outside, then the deck.
Well said, Captain. As an aside regarding bilge oil, I was invited aboard a US coastguard vessel many years ago, and the crew had been told off because there was DUST in their bilges!
I like to do engine and be outside lol.
Very nice Chief Makoi.
Thanks!
I'd like to work on the deck because I love star gazing. Really amazing videos please keep making this great content 🙂
Very informational videos Chief!
More to come!
More to come!
Great info and advice. Cheif MAKOi is the best. :-)
Thanks for this vlog sir. Its a great oppurtunity for those upcoming college students to get some overview on the path that they will choose. Ill share this vlog. 😎😉 I just finished my contract as an E/C.
Thanks!
One of the best channels on youtube... And offcourse best side is engine hehe.. Salamat Po Chief...
Thanks!
My father was on one of the old coal burning ore freighters on the Great Lakes in America in the late 1940’s. He was in the engine room tending to the boilers. Very different from a modern diesel ship.
I wish I could give three likes to this one. Thank you Chief!
U opened my eyes thnkz man
Thank you po sir, kahit bago palang po ako dito sa channel nyo andami ko ng nakukuhang informations and nakakamotivate po sobra salamat po 💓 I hope someday po makita ko po kayo at makasama kayo sa barko bilang cadet officer ninyo
Very informative and articulate vlog well done sir😊
Engineering Officer skills are more broadly, directly applicable to jobs outside of the merchant marine. For example, in the US, when there has been a maritime strike, recession, etc. or if a Merchant Marine Engineering Officer decides not to continue going to sea, he can work as a stationary engineer in charge of maintaining and operating large power generation systems for hospitals, large buildings, etc. Stationary engineer jobs offer high pay and excellent benefits in the USA.
True.
Yes when my Grandfather retired from being a Chief Engineer he became the engineer at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in NYC.
Chief MAKOi nice advice and explanation, i used to be a seaman before but i decided to jumpship but it was my decision that i didn't regret.
San ka nag jumpship?
Sa Spain Chief nong nakuha ko Spanish Citizen lumipat ako sa UK, at dito na ako nagtrabaho.
Thank you sir for much information
thank u Sir,,salute 😊👍
Thakyou for this seamanvlog, sir. I am fresh marine engineering grad. Sir. And gusto ko mag vlog kapag naka sampa nako. Nainspire ako sir. Maraming salamat!
I was a galley hand on a diving ship and my gosh did they work me nonstop from the moment I got up to the moment I laid down.
Deck hand on barge pushing tugs was brutal. And one night three barges broke loose and we spent all night hunting them down and cabling them back together. It was probably the most dangerous thing I ever did.
Sir thankyousomuch. Very clear explanation. You really help a maritime students like me. You made our lessons in school simple. More videos pa sir :)
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Hello sir 🙏
One of my villager work on 2nd officer at synergy ......💐
And after knowing that you ate also in this company ...it seemed that you are one of my relative or close friend 😍😃
You are doing great work ......
Lots of best wishes keep it up 🙏
Nice Explanation Cheif, I am also from Engine Department
Thanks!
Good information sir thank you
Great sir
THANK YOU, CHIEF!! This video helped me sooooooo much! Hope you and your family are doing well during Covid-19! God’s got this! “There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come near your house, for HE shall give his angels charge over you, to keep you in all your ways.” Psalm 91:10-11
Wow...you have the same position with my brother❤🙏salute you both chief engineer,and soon my niece studied for marine engineering as of now.
Excellent explanation sir thanks...i will go deck department someday 🙏🙇💪
whether deck or engine, it is very difficult to find job. i am searcing for engine cadet but i cant get job. my college just sucked money from me.this is very hard time in my life.anyhow your videos make me happy lightly.pls continue your service
Thanks!
@Prakash Raj from which college u graduate?
thanks man! thanks this really helped! im going to deck ^^
Very informative chief. I now have the idea what my bro in law who is a seafarer like you is talking about
Thanks for watching!
These two equal parts of one thing... Can't be compared. It's like Ying Yang
Yin*
Its like tik and tok
Sarap manoud nito lalo na pag pangharap mo maging seaman
Ubos na bilib ko sayu sir lahat ng vlog napanood ko na hehehe more upload pa sir hehehw
Excellent video! I thought it was obvious for choice though, if you like engines and you like working on cars and motorcycles, it’s Engineer for you!
I was training to be a ship’s engineer for Texaco in 1967, however the mathematics was too hard for me and I dropped out. The mathematics was for steam turbines, however I believe ships nowadays are all diesel.
Thanks!
another great video. Before going into your business people should be aware of the life style as you commented. The long time at sea and the routine of work. Can you talk about the contract length I know it differs with the type of ship your on. I think tankers have shorter contracts. When in foreign ports do you take your passport with you on shore leave? Who arranges and pays your transportation home at the end of contract.
Ok I'll come up with a story for that.
The best part of sailing for me was quitting and staying ashore. Never coming back. Only in my dreams every month once. 😉
How Man Jeez! Thank you So much I've Learn a lot of things! And I decide it to take a Deck Department was that a Nautical right? I'm from PHILPPINES!
thankyou sir very helpful
Thank you. Interesting=)
Your Doing Great Vlogs 👌
Good video📌🙌 Exactly what I wanted to k
Super video, please post how to navigate ship and overhauling of fuel feed pump
It depends what your most interested in. I like Engineering but know Deck is the handlers of cargo. Crain is a good field, Welding another, Boiler Tech etc.... Just depends on interest
Thanks sir 👍
If the ship is sailing in rough weather then requires 2 generator engines running to minimize the posibility of black out ? I will appreciate your answer sir !
A very informative video. My son was looking into something called watch officer. He went to school for media communications.
I thought he should be looking at cruise ship communications dept. I'm sure it's more involved.
Chief, does calculus and stuff like calculation are badly needed on board? I'm really bad at it and i want to be an engineer.
You forgot about a department, well...... maybe. I was a career Merchant Marine officer myself. I started out in the engine department and did work as chief engineer for a while. As I got older the job requirements in the engine department became physically more difficult. I switched to becoming a master radio-electronics officer. These positions are quite rare these days, but still do exist. My position was a separate department and the direct supervisor was the captain. It was a great job. The chief knew that I was also a former chief, and I always maintained my chief's license, so I would often go down to the engine room to work on electronics issues there. I just didn't have to sling around a huge wrench. A voltmeter is a lot lighter. On the ship I was on everyone had a good time and the capt, C/E, C/M and myself would often meet just after breakfast in the morning and go over the maintenance issues on the ship and make a deal about who could handle what. I didn't mind going down to the engine room or climbing a mast to fix an antenna. Now the position of ETO Electo-technical officer is starting to be a more popular thing. I am now retired but would have gotten the ETO license as well if I hadn't. Probably the ETO would be under the C/E on ships, but I'm not sure about that. That's why I wasn't sure if there was a separate electronics department. In any event I am now receiving a pension from the radio officer's union. I am still receiving a shipping list via email once in a while so I can see some people I know still working on ships today as a radio-electronics officer.
The last time I sailed with a sparky (Radio Officer) was back in 2004.
Radio Operators were becoming extinct when I was sailing. The only time I saw them was on government contract ships. There was so much military communications.
I do remember one radio operator we had, he was ex-Air Force. He loved to troubleshoot our Tano boards from the engine room console and fix them. He could solder like a machine! I was fortunate to have him with me for four years.
Hey, What were the requirements to be in the radio electronics dep from a civilian stand point ?
Very informative. Who maintains and repairs if need the complicated electronic equipment like radar, radios, fathometers, etc? Engineering or deck?
A technician usually comes onboard if repairs are necessary.
Future chief ✌✌✌
Chief makoi you choose engine department .you must be 🖐 hands on guy and also you must be smart guy figuring things & you like help people.
Chief Makoi! See you sir sa PMMA! Idol🔥 sana makapasa.
Very Good !
Thanks.
Great
I am not a seafarer by any means but I love your explanations of your job on board, and the daily life you lead. Great videos!
That is cool
Salamat sir Makoi
Well explained Sir. 👍
Thanks!
great content sir!
Thanks!
Well said
Just out of curiosity, does a chief engineer ever transfer over to being a captain? I realize that it is disjointed career path but does it ever happen anyway?
nice chief 👍
Thanks!