This is so fantastic. We inherited a 150ft zip line and it’s a metal cable that has nearly no give - we want to loop back to keep the kids from tearing up the lawn under it and found your video. Awesome.
Charlie, I hate to be the one to inform you, but if you laugh at any of my videos then there is something seriously wrong with you, please seek medical attention immediately. 😉
Looks like you made it about 150'. Not bad. For any serious zipline, steel cable is recommended. I always use 3/8 aircraft cable. Compression springs and an old motorcycle tire work good for braking. Look for a 5% drop when setting up. I've never seen a good braking method that won't wear out ropes, but running into the dirt seemed to work well ;-).
Okay so I'm 43s into the video. I've seen some smart sound editing to get me intrigued, followed by a reference to Jim Henson and then Douglas Adams. I'm hooked.
@@FreeFallinTrees It shows! The beat you make from putting on shoes in the first 5 seconds of this video is the sort of sound design that even some TV shows don't put the effort into. I actually decided to watch the full video just based on that haha
Ahhh! Was on a search on how to build a zipline on 2 acres of cleared hills so I don't have a heart attack picking passbyers trash that they leave me on the side on the road, lol. I really enjoyed your video. Very rarely do I hit a 1st click hit like your to make me laugh. Love it. 🕊....
@@FreeFallinTrees I love rock climbing and repeling but I'm 30yrs older now. This is going to be fun building a line going down a 1.5 acres hill. Considered getting a horse. Still am, but this place is calling for a zip-line adventure this year.
My 1st one was 300' ( 3/8 in cable) over the hairpin bend in the river. From a 40' bluff to the beach. It was a 10+ second ride hanging from a ski rope handle. It was a big hit for the weekend. Upgraded with a harness strap. My next one will be TWICE as long.
Lololol 'don't go to the hardware store" for rope, lol. Great vid btw- I have a 1/2 mile clear shot from a cliff to the other end of my property. Great content, thank you, Sir!
@@hfdpyle hahaha, totally forgot that was in there. It comes right after "Do you have any idea what the street value of this mountain is?". Easily one of my top 5 movies of all time, I don't think I even planned that line, it's just what you say when you are about to send someone down a mountain. Great catch on your part.
I do steel cable ziplines as well for permanent installations. But for single day social events like scout camps in remote areas, or a one weekend zipline in the back yard for the kids. Cement poles and steel cables are not practical. All of the equipment used in the video is rated for life support working at height. But different scenarios definitely call for different ziplines. Be safe, and have fun!
"Ridiculous Optimism" wow I LOVE IT! Totally going to be part of my vocabulary I cannot believe I'm mid-30's and had never heard that :D (BTW you say Oak is 'pretty sturdy', I known there's major variances in Oak but thought it trivially-neat to mention that, in my area [tampa-FL], Live Oak is the predominate species and it's the heaviest/densest wood of any tree I'm aware of, heck the 'Log Weight' chart in the latest SherrillTree catalogue has Live Oak as the heaviest specimen listed by a *significant* margin!!) Oh and BTW Blue Moon.....I bought mine because of the kid from Climbing Arborist but it's great seeing others I respect like you who also use it!!! Stuff is insane right? I tried my first splice of it and, while it didn't go as-planned, I did get to find out that even a fresh utility knife wasn't enough to make a dent in the outer braiding/cover of the rope, will never doubt my line going through natural-crotches again (still use false crotches/fricttion-savers but that's simply to keep my rope newer&slicker so my techniques work better ie cammed ascenders and smooth descents with figure-8's!)
Thanks for watching Derek! Oak being sturdy is pretty vague, but it is a hardwood and a slow steady grower. I love my Blue Moon, great all around rope, my Akimbo doesn't like it but I use it for everything else. Now head over the bay to the Rockaway Grill and try the she crab soup it's amazing, then check out the Dali museum it will mess with your head.
Ha, glad you liked it, I just finished filming a new video, and Mr. Trunk is back, check back in a couple days because i have been cracking myself up making the new one. Thanks for watching Paul!
Arborist rope is harder to cut than hardware store rope, and is abrasion resistant, but it is still made from similar material and can be cut with a blade.
Looking for your opinion... I have 150' of brand new 5/16" winch cable. I have two 26" strong Oaks to anchor to. I'm using 5/16" chain to wrap around the trees, will chain be ok? I need to use the chain because my location is about 10' too long. I want it to be safe for 200 pounds. I've tried about a 70 lb tire and it works fine but haven't gone with a person yet.
Thanks for the video learned a lot. Just wondering why you used rope instead of steel cable? And if we want to save the trees from long term damage shouldn't I put wooden blocks around the trunk where the rope goes around the tree?
Brian Trudeau thanks for commenting! For the least damage to the trees I like doing temporary ziplines for a day or an event, and using rope. There is usually no need to protect the bark since rope doesn't cut like cable, and there is no movement against the tree. For more permanent installations, yes cable is best. Using blocks is fine for a short term solution but bolting through a trunk will put less stress on the tree for ziplines that are going to get left in place.
Thanks for replying so quickly. If I am installing a permanent zip line however, would you recommend steel cables and blocks to protect the bark if they are trees I care about ?
Keep in mind that the only living part of the tree is that cambium layer and bark around the outside. The wood inside is all dead and can't really be hurt. So even with blocks you are risking damage to that outer layer. For a permanent installation the best way is a large eye bolt all the way through the trunk with a good sized washer and double nut on the back. That way it touches as little of the bark as possible and can be loosened as the tree grows. Blocks are better than strapping to the tree directly, they would be a decent second choice.
Congratulations on the video. My name is Germano. I'm from Brazil - Rio de Janeiro I need to build a zip line for the kids in my backyard. The distance between the wooden posts is 20 meters. What would be the height to be installed the steel cables so that children do not collide with the pole? Could inform me.
Hi Germano thank you for watching! To keep kids safe you should install a brake on the steel cable to slow people down at the end. Then set the height so that the kids do not hit the ground, or get stuck in the air. I usually put the end at around 2 5m. Here is a good video I found for making a brake - ua-cam.com/video/aKXbmsoneBU/v-deo.html Have fun!
So I got three things from this. Tension as much as possible, only use old hemp rope, make your own harness, and trap a skate hearing between two blocks of wood. Before attempting a faceplant.
Hi Sara, 300 feet is a long run, that should make for a happy dog. It's hard to give advice without more info, but - You will want a line that does not stretch, I would use a steel cable, fastened with at least two cable clamps on each end. If you are fastening the ends to trees, it depends on how long this run will be there, if less than a year, you might be able to use axle straps from an auto store, if longer I would bolt into the tree trunk. Hopefully this gets you started.
Sorry, but there is no 4:1 MA at 3:56. Not even close. That is a HUGE angle between two trees (anchors) and the "focal point" of the load (your pulley/zip line). In climbing this is known as an "American Death Triangle", because this configuration produces a huge DISadvantage, and the forces acting on your anchor points far exceed those of the load at the focal point. This resulted in multiple fatalities and injuries. In order to get the 4:1 that you want, only one tree should be used or the angle between the two trees and the focal point has to be minimal. But given the approximate 90 degree angle of your focal point you actually have a DISadvantage of about 2! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_death_triangle
Hi Sergei Gridnev, and thanks for watching. I understand your concerns, however, I am estimating 120° angle from the main line to each leg, making the angle between the legs 60°, well below the critical angle for vector force. In this configuration 100lbs of pull on each leg would produce 173lbs of pull on the main line. There have been a couple of other questions about the forces at work here so I am planning on building a simple model and testing with a load cell, I will share the results in another video even if I am completely wrong. Have a great day!
Free Fallin I enjoyed your video but I have a question about the mechanical advantage of your tensioning system. Your diagram shows a 4:1 advantage being applied to the main line but with the rope angles shown (approximately 120 degree internal angle) it seems unlikely that you are getting 2:1 at the pulley attached to main line. I think that the 2 legs of the rope would have to go around the pulley and be parallel to each other to get a 2:1 advantage at that point. At the approximately 120 degree angle you show I would guess that the mechanical advantage would be closer to one and a quarter to one (1.25:1). If so the total mechanical advantage for your system would be 1.25:1 times 2:1 = 2.5:1 mechanical advantage. As I am not well schooled or practiced in calculating the force vectors for rope angles I may well be overlooking something, but does my approximate 2.5:1 or your 4:1 seem more accurate to you? Again, aside from all that your video was fun and thanks for posting it.
Chee Kay great observation! The system in the video is a 4:1 IDEAL mechanical advantage system. People use ideal to describe them because the actual calculation is next to impossible to predict and can only be found out by testing the system under load, and even then the actual MA changes as tension changes. To reach ideal MA a system would need to have 0 friction in all parts, 0 stretch, and exact angles. This would make my system actual 4:1 MA. People generally speak in ideal MA for convenience. If we were to ignore friction and stretch in the calculation and just look at the rope angles on that one pulley, you would still have 2:1 MA on one leg. Then the question becomes the angle coming off the main pulley, guessing let's say 45°. Guessing again, let's say that only gives us 1.75:1 actual MA. Multiply that by the 2:1 we already know about and the system would be 3.5:1 actual MA, throw back in friction, stretch, tension, gravity, earth rotation, etc. And you wind up with some actual number lower than that. But ain't nobody but NASA got time for that, so we have to say it's a sloppy 4:1 ideally. Hope this helps, climb on!
This is actually a 6:1 theoretical MA by counting points of tension. Obviously you will not achieve this. As far as forces go at 120 degrees in this configuration each anchor will receive 100% of the load
Lee Poteat actually, if you look at deviation forces, at an angle of 120° each leg will generate 173% of force on the load from the main line. So each leg is holding just over 50% of the load
Free Fallin, please forgive as I do not wish to sound condescending nor argumentative. www.ropebook.com/information/vector-forces/ You are speaking of an angular vector force but your diagram is in essence a high line with the load in the middle thus creating a vector force (two separate formulas)Try (if you haven’t already) to use a load cell on this system.
Lee Poteat I see what you are saying, o offense taken, and this would be true if the120° angle was between the 2 anchor legs, but I am estimating 120° angle from the main line to each leg, making the angle between the legs 60°, well below the critical angle for vector force. In this configuration 100lbs of pull on each leg would produce 173lbs of pull on the main line. Does this make sense?
I use steel cable for permanent or semi permanent installations, I use rope for single day events and having a zipline I can move around easily. Thanks for watching!
Not too sure about the Tears in Heaven dude, Clapton wrote that song in memory of his 4 year-old son, Conor, who fell from a New York apartment building to his death on March 20, 1991.
TreeCraft by Andrew I used to do graphic design so I have Adobe Fireworks, the real images just came from google, and i just saved it several times as i drew the picture and added the still shots to the video. you could do the same with Ms paint or any graphics program.
Love your videos. I'm planning on building a zip line soon. Can you comment on using steel cable vs rope for the zipline. 🤣 Donald Trunk. Log him up! Log him up! He needs his own Instagram/TikTok channel.
Thanks, "log him up" is killing me 🤣 I use rope for ziplines if it is temporary, like 1-3 days for an event because it can weaken with long term UV exposure. Steel cables are best for seasonal or longer term ziplines. There are a couple things to think about with cables. 1. Buy one that can handle 3,000+ lbs at a minimum for adults to use, the longer or higher it is, the stronger you need to cover added forces and increase risk. 2. Trees are only "alive" around the outside inch or 2 of the trunk. It is better to put a large eye bolt through a tree with a big washer on the back, than it is to wrap the outside if it will be installed for more than a few weeks. If it IS going to be short term, use a piece of garden hose on the wire to protect the cambi layer of the tree. 3. Steel does not stretch to give you a slow landing. It goes fast and you will stop when you hit the end 😵. Plan on making a braking system at the end of the line to slow people down. A large block on the line with bungee cords to let it slide and slow works great. Have fun!
Arley Massey there was a short go fund me campaign a couple of years ago, this is one of the go fund me versions. The production version should be released in the next couple of months.
Free Fallin I bought mine has a pre-order👍🏼 at the time it was a lot of money, seeing that the price is now $150 more 😳 I’m Lucky me I pre-ordered. I really enjoy it , I own 6 saddles ( A collection for the past 20 years) i’ve gotten rid of the unsafe ones. from Kid harnesses all the way up to extra large just in case people want to hang out in a tree. Hehe
Free Fallin Chad Brey and Timmy Womack do a thing called tree circus I volunteer at Sacramento State fair every year and their motto is if you can walk you can climb it was a 70-year-old blind lady who is send it 10 feet in the air since then that is the story that I stick to true story I didn’t take any photos due to respect of the woman and her company they later told me that please share the story LOL I said no it’s better for people to get a visual on their mind because she is blind so they have to see things from her eyes to.
That's fantastic! Some people don't need trees, but those that do can get a tremendous amount of benefits from programs like that. I would love to open a climbing center someday that sponsors fee based and charity climbs.
Free Fallin i’ve seen videos in the UK where they have tree climbing parties for kids and they do things like put 45 kids in a big tree and then tie balloons to their feet and they get to basically kick each other and pop the balloons without seriously injure each other.
Good eye, and you are correct, it is 3:1 on that leg of the tie off, but with the other static leg and a 90° bend at the main pulley I only gave it 2:1 on the primary line to be generous.
I highly recommend strapping at least 2-3 chihuahuas into the harness to get enough mass, you can also consider altering the diet of your 1 chihuahua to include at least 10 tacos al carbon each day. I have been testing this on myself and can confirm that I am now the size of many chihuahuas. Thanks for watching Joel!
Excellent , man. That's good to hear. We're good. Staying busy, washing our hands and sanitizing lol. .. Fortune to still be working during all this. Hopefully everyone will be back at it soon.
So I subscribed and taking your advice I tested the device aka your channel and watched until the end and I unsubscribed why well you wouldn't understand but I do and I know best look a shinny thing well back to Twitter :-D
1ST General thank you for your, I would also recommend an account on reddit where you can find others with ADH... do you think cauliflower rice is as good as rice rice? I don't well back to watching Logan, it's every day bro.
20 years of extreme sports engeneering and this is 100% unsafe. You should try and youtube mathematical formulas that can make your life easer and safer. The fact you got ingerd building one expains alot. Im not tring to put you down or say your not a good person but thats really unsafe to put on the internet. In the world of high probability of death and a 200 ft zipline you should at least have a double line plus back ups on your achor poins. 2 carabiners everywhere you placed one. Safer and stonger.
Never quote Jim Hansen he's a climate lunatic wrong about so many things he is a parody. of a scientist I see his claim of manhatten highway being underwater is still running late
This is a pretty horrible video. I would never do what you are doing, your talking about safety but your including all these pieces with "rope" and making extra fail points and all kinds of stuff. If you want to be safe you just do it all with thick gauge wire from tree to tree and lock it down with heavy duty hardware. This along with your never ending jokes and the time of the video to how much real content you actually share is pretty ridiculous.
This is a pretty horrible comment. My jokes are some of the best the world has ever seen. I once killed a grown man using only laughter, which is proof that its not always the best medicine. Anyway, you do you, i use steel cable for permanent zipline installations, but that would be impractical for single day use, or in a remote location where arborist rope like mine rated at 6,000lbs works fantastic. I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to call out a stranger on the internet for not meeting your standards for humor. 🙄
@@FreeFallinTrees It just got a little ridiculous is all. Ropes are not safe for something like that in general, doesn't matter how much they are rated for and no one cares about rope zip lines. You couldn't even make it right without running into the ground and you really beat a dead horse when talking about what tree is good or not. To use a big sizable tree is all that matters. Honestly your jokes weren't too bad but you kept going with them when they should've been done and with the frequency matched to the actual amount of zipline content you offered shows that you were just basically making a video about yourself being about as ridiculous as you could and then threw some zipline stuff in there. People make jokes in their videos all the time man but its metered to some standard of decency and respect for the viewer, they don't just keep jerking you around with nonsense after nonsense.
Thanks for the UA-cam tips. I always enjoy watching your videos and all the work you put into them. I also appreciate getting help from someone with as many subscribers as you have. Have a great day.
🤣🤣🤣 I'm far from political, but I do make fun of famous people and social topics. I've been making fun of that person for the last 10 years, even before he became a reality tv star and then got into politics. It's a funny UA-cam video 🤷🏼♂️
I love how you tried to make it sound as funny as possible, while still being serious. Very informative.
Thanks! Life is short, it should be funny.
Probably one of the best videos I've ever seen on you tube. Informational and hilarious
This is so fantastic. We inherited a 150ft zip line and it’s a metal cable that has nearly no give - we want to loop back to keep the kids from tearing up the lawn under it and found your video. Awesome.
Awesome, have fun and be safe with it!
One of my favourite zip line related videos
Thanks! I appreciate you watching.
OMG the stare down at the beginning! I feel like I'm 10 years old and i just got busted doing something very dangerous. I LOVE IT!!
Ha, thanks for watching Jennifer, I have 6 kids and that look comes in very handy.
Tire test gave me the same reaction, was nice not you feel alone. "Wanna build a zipline?" "Yeah?!" lmao
Nathan Silveira Ha, ya this was a fun one to make. The kid is a hoot, he gets excited about anything with wheels.
Me too! Haha. Great job here, seriously. Kid's cute too. I like the ages where you can't understand their English, unless you know them haha
You made me smile 😁, hope your well and still doing what you do, 4 years later 🤜🤛
Thanks Tim, I appreciate that! I'm still doing silly things, not always on camera but always finding some trouble to start 😁.
Your sense of humor is why I subscribed.
I appreciate this, but it may be a red flag that you need to seek help from a good therapist 😂🤣😂🤣
@@FreeFallinTrees hahaha but first, my zip line needs built…
Rock on!
Hilarious 😂😂😂
What a great discovery my friend 😭😭 Love Donald Trunk 😭
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Ha, glad you liked it. Donald Trunk makes his equally senseless return in this video if you are interested. ua-cam.com/video/j_LtLYZ70Lo/v-deo.html
You funny guy! Made me laugh out loud while waiting on the ol battle axe in a store, now people are looking at me like i have problems
Charlie, I hate to be the one to inform you, but if you laugh at any of my videos then there is something seriously wrong with you, please seek medical attention immediately. 😉
Your right doc says theres no hope. Liked, subbed, and rang it
Absolute genius!, hilarious Donald trunk, good anti-deadness info too.
Thanks, keep em coming.🤘
Thanks for watching Jon!
Looks like you made it about 150'. Not bad. For any serious zipline, steel cable is recommended. I always use 3/8 aircraft cable. Compression springs and an old motorcycle tire work good for braking. Look for a 5% drop when setting up. I've never seen a good braking method that won't wear out ropes, but running into the dirt seemed to work well ;-).
Okay so I'm 43s into the video. I've seen some smart sound editing to get me intrigued, followed by a reference to Jim Henson and then Douglas Adams. I'm hooked.
Ha, I appreciate you watching. In a past life I worked in sound, the music and sound in my videos is almost all digitally produced by me.
@@FreeFallinTrees It shows! The beat you make from putting on shoes in the first 5 seconds of this video is the sort of sound design that even some TV shows don't put the effort into. I actually decided to watch the full video just based on that haha
@@Table53 no one notices that stuff, good eye!
Before you chuck your carcass down a hill, make sure you test the line... lol buddy killed me at 10:45
Ha, thanks for watching Phillipe. There is no reason for information to be boring, we all need a good laugh right now..
Ahhh! Was on a search on how to build a zipline on 2 acres of cleared hills so I don't have a heart attack picking passbyers trash that they leave me on the side on the road, lol.
I really enjoyed your video. Very rarely do I hit a 1st click hit like your to make me laugh.
Love it. 🕊....
Ah, thank you, that is very kind of you. I'm glad you enjoyed it and hope you have a lot of fun!
@@FreeFallinTrees
I love rock climbing and repeling but I'm 30yrs older now.
This is going to be fun building a line going down a 1.5 acres hill. Considered getting a horse. Still am, but this place is calling for a zip-line adventure this year.
My 1st one was 300' ( 3/8 in cable) over the hairpin bend in the river. From a 40' bluff to the beach. It was a 10+ second ride hanging from a ski rope handle. It was a big hit for the weekend. Upgraded with a harness strap. My next one will be TWICE as long.
Lololol 'don't go to the hardware store" for rope, lol. Great vid btw- I have a 1/2 mile clear shot from a cliff to the other end of my property. Great content, thank you, Sir!
Ha, that sounds like it needs a good zipline, you know, for efficiency. 😁
Thanjs for watching!
Thankyou vm very ingenious funniest.
Health for you and yours . Greeting from Cordoba, Argentina
Muchas gracias Alatinu!
Me alegra que lo disfrutaras. y felicidades por la copa del mundo!
great great video any videos with myself on it .
is just marvelous congratulations
Hahaha, then you will love the comeback appearance at the end of this video ua-cam.com/video/j_LtLYZ70Lo/v-deo.html
Great great video I'm going to send you a box of trump steaks . Congratulations
Loved it!! More proof that old guys rule!!!
Nice one ...I like your put outs....thanx for the
Thanks Jack!
Just found this channel
And i'm glad I did.
Donald Trunk is what got me subscribed with the bell notification! :D
Ha, thanks, I need to add more Donald Trunk. I think it's funny. Thanks for watching!
What a great video and informative!! Thank you.
You bet, thanks for watching!
great clip and the best Trump speak I've seen in a long time better than the late night guys.
Thanks for watching Andre, if you liked that, I brought Donald Trunk back a couple months ago ua-cam.com/video/j_LtLYZ70Lo/v-deo.html
Thanks, I learned a lot. I laughed a lot too.
Thanks for watching, and glad you got a laugh!
Great video. I watched the first 40 seconds with no volume and it's kinda creepy 😂. I have since recently watched with volume and it now makes sense
D-M Arborist Haha, that is creepy with no narrator, just me staring you down, then I kidnap some kid, hahaha.
Backup cable adds speed and safety to the zipline
Among all the funny references, I'm partial to the Better Off Dead reference.
I speak in movie quotes, and that movie in particular, so I have no doubt that I did, what did I say?
@@FreeFallinTrees "go that way really fast, if a tree gets in your way....turn" John Cusack's film better off dead.
@@hfdpyle hahaha, totally forgot that was in there. It comes right after "Do you have any idea what the street value of this mountain is?". Easily one of my top 5 movies of all time, I don't think I even planned that line, it's just what you say when you are about to send someone down a mountain. Great catch on your part.
Always ready to learn.... I,m doing steel poles in heavy concrete and woven steel cable... wow.. I,d never use those products
I do steel cable ziplines as well for permanent installations. But for single day social events like scout camps in remote areas, or a one weekend zipline in the back yard for the kids. Cement poles and steel cables are not practical. All of the equipment used in the video is rated for life support working at height. But different scenarios definitely call for different ziplines. Be safe, and have fun!
Great video! This is giving me lots of (probably really bad) ideas...
Glad you liked it! Have fun and be safe out there.
"Ridiculous Optimism" wow I LOVE IT! Totally going to be part of my vocabulary I cannot believe I'm mid-30's and had never heard that :D (BTW you say Oak is 'pretty sturdy', I known there's major variances in Oak but thought it trivially-neat to mention that, in my area [tampa-FL], Live Oak is the predominate species and it's the heaviest/densest wood of any tree I'm aware of, heck the 'Log Weight' chart in the latest SherrillTree catalogue has Live Oak as the heaviest specimen listed by a *significant* margin!!)
Oh and BTW Blue Moon.....I bought mine because of the kid from Climbing Arborist but it's great seeing others I respect like you who also use it!!! Stuff is insane right? I tried my first splice of it and, while it didn't go as-planned, I did get to find out that even a fresh utility knife wasn't enough to make a dent in the outer braiding/cover of the rope, will never doubt my line going through natural-crotches again (still use false crotches/fricttion-savers but that's simply to keep my rope newer&slicker so my techniques work better ie cammed ascenders and smooth descents with figure-8's!)
Thanks for watching Derek! Oak being sturdy is pretty vague, but it is a hardwood and a slow steady grower.
I love my Blue Moon, great all around rope, my Akimbo doesn't like it but I use it for everything else. Now head over the bay to the Rockaway Grill and try the she crab soup it's amazing, then check out the Dali museum it will mess with your head.
You’re awesome! Thanks for the tips.
Thanks for watching Nathaniel!
This is adorable. And informative.
Blake Jhonshen Haha glad you liked it, fun stuff.
Hilarious. Thanks for making my day.
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Funny and instructive. Thank you!
K. Moran thanks! Glad you liked it, It's a good outlet for my thoughts and humor alike.
More Donald Trunk! That was hilarious.
Ha, glad you liked it, I just finished filming a new video, and Mr. Trunk is back, check back in a couple days because i have been cracking myself up making the new one. Thanks for watching Paul!
So I’m going to a professional one and is it easy to cut the rope while going down. Like kitchen knife easy. Or would I have to get a special knife.
Arborist rope is harder to cut than hardware store rope, and is abrasion resistant, but it is still made from similar material and can be cut with a blade.
this guy should be a magician
Thanks David, or am I???
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Looking for your opinion... I have 150' of brand new 5/16" winch cable. I have two 26" strong Oaks to anchor to. I'm using 5/16" chain to wrap around the trees, will chain be ok? I need to use the chain because my location is about 10' too long. I want it to be safe for 200 pounds. I've tried about a 70 lb tire and it works fine but haven't gone with a person yet.
Thanks for the video learned a lot. Just wondering why you used rope instead of steel cable? And if we want to save the trees from long term damage shouldn't I put wooden blocks around the trunk where the rope goes around the tree?
Brian Trudeau thanks for commenting! For the least damage to the trees I like doing temporary ziplines for a day or an event, and using rope. There is usually no need to protect the bark since rope doesn't cut like cable, and there is no movement against the tree. For more permanent installations, yes cable is best. Using blocks is fine for a short term solution but bolting through a trunk will put less stress on the tree for ziplines that are going to get left in place.
Thanks for replying so quickly. If I am installing a permanent zip line however, would you recommend steel cables and blocks to protect the bark if they are trees I care about ?
Keep in mind that the only living part of the tree is that cambium layer and bark around the outside. The wood inside is all dead and can't really be hurt. So even with blocks you are risking damage to that outer layer. For a permanent installation the best way is a large eye bolt all the way through the trunk with a good sized washer and double nut on the back. That way it touches as little of the bark as possible and can be loosened as the tree grows. Blocks are better than strapping to the tree directly, they would be a decent second choice.
Congratulations on the video. My name is Germano. I'm from Brazil - Rio de Janeiro I need to build a zip line for the kids in my backyard. The distance between the wooden posts is 20 meters. What would be the height to be installed the steel cables so that children do not collide with the pole? Could inform me.
Hi Germano thank you for watching! To keep kids safe you should install a brake on the steel cable to slow people down at the end. Then set the height so that the kids do not hit the ground, or get stuck in the air. I usually put the end at around 2 5m.
Here is a good video I found for making a brake - ua-cam.com/video/aKXbmsoneBU/v-deo.html
Have fun!
@@FreeFallinTrees thank you.
So I got three things from this.
Tension as much as possible, only use old hemp rope, make your own harness, and trap a skate hearing between two blocks of wood. Before attempting a faceplant.
Great Content, Sir!
Thanks nobody :)
Donald Trunk makes for a good laugh so I have subscribed. LOL
Nee Kniggit I've already got one, go away, or I will taunt you a second time!
You'd be surprised at how many people can't appreciate Monty Python. ;) LOL
MP is a huge influence on my humor and my ability to laugh at the world. I also happen to enjoy Spam, a lot.
Thank you thank you this is wonderful . congratulations
I'm trying to figure out how to run an appx 300ft dog trolley line any advice/ suggestions?
Hi Sara, 300 feet is a long run, that should make for a happy dog. It's hard to give advice without more info, but - You will want a line that does not stretch, I would use a steel cable, fastened with at least two cable clamps on each end. If you are fastening the ends to trees, it depends on how long this run will be there, if less than a year, you might be able to use axle straps from an auto store, if longer I would bolt into the tree trunk. Hopefully this gets you started.
Sorry, but there is no 4:1 MA at 3:56. Not even close. That is a HUGE angle between two trees (anchors) and the "focal point" of the load (your pulley/zip line). In climbing this is known as an "American Death Triangle", because this configuration produces a huge DISadvantage, and the forces acting on your anchor points far exceed those of the load at the focal point. This resulted in multiple fatalities and injuries. In order to get the 4:1 that you want, only one tree should be used or the angle between the two trees and the focal point has to be minimal. But given the approximate 90 degree angle of your focal point you actually have a DISadvantage of about 2!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_death_triangle
Hi Sergei Gridnev, and thanks for watching. I understand your concerns, however, I am estimating 120° angle from the main line to each leg, making the angle between the legs 60°, well below the critical angle for vector force. In this configuration 100lbs of pull on each leg would produce 173lbs of pull on the main line. There have been a couple of other questions about the forces at work here so I am planning on building a simple model and testing with a load cell, I will share the results in another video even if I am completely wrong. Have a great day!
@ 8:41 Six Million Dollar Man - Love it!
TreeCraft by Andrew Hahaha, congratulations, that means your old. I wondered if anyone would catch that.
Free Fallin I enjoyed your video but I have a question about the mechanical advantage of your tensioning system. Your diagram shows a 4:1 advantage being applied to the main line but with the rope angles shown (approximately 120 degree internal angle) it seems unlikely that you are getting 2:1 at the pulley attached to main line. I think that the 2 legs of the rope would have to go around the pulley and be parallel to each other to get a 2:1 advantage at that point. At the approximately 120 degree angle you show I would guess that the mechanical advantage would be closer to one and a quarter to one (1.25:1). If so the total mechanical advantage for your system would be 1.25:1 times 2:1 = 2.5:1 mechanical advantage. As I am not well schooled or practiced in calculating the force vectors for rope angles I may well be overlooking something, but does my approximate 2.5:1 or your 4:1 seem more accurate to you? Again, aside from all that your video was fun and thanks for posting it.
Chee Kay great observation! The system in the video is a 4:1 IDEAL mechanical advantage system. People use ideal to describe them because the actual calculation is next to impossible to predict and can only be found out by testing the system under load, and even then the actual MA changes as tension changes. To reach ideal MA a system would need to have 0 friction in all parts, 0 stretch, and exact angles. This would make my system actual 4:1 MA.
People generally speak in ideal MA for convenience. If we were to ignore friction and stretch in the calculation and just look at the rope angles on that one pulley, you would still have 2:1 MA on one leg. Then the question becomes the angle coming off the main pulley, guessing let's say 45°. Guessing again, let's say that only gives us 1.75:1 actual MA. Multiply that by the 2:1 we already know about and the system would be 3.5:1 actual MA, throw back in friction, stretch, tension, gravity, earth rotation, etc. And you wind up with some actual number lower than that. But ain't nobody but NASA got time for that, so we have to say it's a sloppy 4:1 ideally. Hope this helps, climb on!
This is actually a 6:1 theoretical MA by counting points of tension. Obviously you will not achieve this. As far as forces go at 120 degrees in this configuration each anchor will receive 100% of the load
Lee Poteat actually, if you look at deviation forces, at an angle of 120° each leg will generate 173% of force on the load from the main line. So each leg is holding just over 50% of the load
Free Fallin, please forgive as I do not wish to sound condescending nor argumentative. www.ropebook.com/information/vector-forces/
You are speaking of an angular vector force but your diagram is in essence a high line with the load in the middle thus creating a vector force (two separate formulas)Try (if you haven’t already) to use a load cell on this system.
Lee Poteat I see what you are saying, o offense taken, and this would be true if the120° angle was between the 2 anchor legs, but I am estimating 120° angle from the main line to each leg, making the angle between the legs 60°, well below the critical angle for vector force. In this configuration 100lbs of pull on each leg would produce 173lbs of pull on the main line. Does this make sense?
Why not 5/16" aircraft cable?
I use steel cable for permanent or semi permanent installations, I use rope for single day events and having a zipline I can move around easily. Thanks for watching!
Not too sure about the Tears in Heaven dude, Clapton wrote that song in memory of his 4 year-old son, Conor, who fell from a New York apartment building to his death on March 20, 1991.
Most people have forgotten that reference from almost 30 years ago, but yes I can see the lack of humor in that.
I think this version was " trees in heaven" now fully comical again
What about steel cable?
Steel cable is great for permanent installations, I've used it a lot. Rope is better for temporary ziplines and remote locations.
@ 3:21 may I ask what program you used to create the infographic?
TreeCraft by Andrew I used to do graphic design so I have Adobe Fireworks, the real images just came from google, and i just saved it several times as i drew the picture and added the still shots to the video. you could do the same with Ms paint or any graphics program.
I feel as though I should have thought of that! Thank you sir.
9:19 you little show off. Why is this video so entertaining... I'm never going to build a zipline.
Hahaha, because I do a lot of dumb stuff, and who doesn't enjoy that?
i know right! me either but i had so much fun watching this
Hello sir, I need you help.
Always use 1/2 stainless cable on my zip lines. I’ve had hogs zippin with no issue
12:47 is an indication of good dadding.
Love your videos. I'm planning on building a zip line soon. Can you comment on using steel cable vs rope for the zipline. 🤣 Donald Trunk. Log him up! Log him up! He needs his own Instagram/TikTok channel.
Thanks, "log him up" is killing me 🤣
I use rope for ziplines if it is temporary, like 1-3 days for an event because it can weaken with long term UV exposure.
Steel cables are best for seasonal or longer term ziplines. There are a couple things to think about with cables.
1. Buy one that can handle 3,000+ lbs at a minimum for adults to use, the longer or higher it is, the stronger you need to cover added forces and increase risk.
2. Trees are only "alive" around the outside inch or 2 of the trunk. It is better to put a large eye bolt through a tree with a big washer on the back, than it is to wrap the outside if it will be installed for more than a few weeks. If it IS going to be short term, use a piece of garden hose on the wire to protect the cambi layer of the tree.
3. Steel does not stretch to give you a slow landing. It goes fast and you will stop when you hit the end 😵. Plan on making a braking system at the end of the line to slow people down. A large block on the line with bungee cords to let it slide and slow works great.
Have fun!
a sling end is like girdling a tree ... it will kill the tree, and a dead tree is a dangerous tree. ( see previous comment )
I had to climb a big white oak with conks on it had no other tree to tie into and it had to come down
wild man that sucks, glad it held for you, luckily oaks take a while to rot.
What made me click on this is the awesome grammar in the title
*"this, "
"Don't get dead" is a tree industry term, the title is a play on that.
Thumbs up for Donald Trunk... and the video.
MSRE thanks, he's just trying to make the forest great again, haha.
all i learned is sometimes you are the bird and sometimes you are the statue
Well put!
How did you get that akimbo??
Arley Massey there was a short go fund me campaign a couple of years ago, this is one of the go fund me versions. The production version should be released in the next couple of months.
-01:36 but this isn't a 10 min video, does that mean I can do it? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Yes, a dream is a wish your heart makes. Chuck your carcass my friend. 👍🏼👍🏼
what a great video n love the harness i own on too !
Free Fallin I bought mine has a pre-order👍🏼 at the time it was a lot of money, seeing that the price is now $150 more 😳 I’m Lucky me I pre-ordered. I really enjoy it , I own 6 saddles ( A collection for the past 20 years) i’ve gotten rid of the unsafe ones. from Kid harnesses all the way up to extra large just in case people want to hang out in a tree. Hehe
Free Fallin Chad Brey and Timmy Womack do a thing called tree circus I volunteer at Sacramento State fair every year and their motto is if you can walk you can climb it was a 70-year-old blind lady who is send it 10 feet in the air since then that is the story that I stick to true story I didn’t take any photos due to respect of the woman and her company they later told me that please share the story LOL I said no it’s better for people to get a visual on their mind because she is blind so they have to see things from her eyes to.
That's fantastic! Some people don't need trees, but those that do can get a tremendous amount of benefits from programs like that. I would love to open a climbing center someday that sponsors fee based and charity climbs.
Free Fallin I’m in Mtn view California open to assist 👍🏼
Free Fallin i’ve seen videos in the UK where they have tree climbing parties for kids and they do things like put 45 kids in a big tree and then tie balloons to their feet and they get to basically kick each other and pop the balloons without seriously injure each other.
I hate getting dead.
Getting dead is the worst.
You are to funny, Love the video
at 3:50 Your MA is actually 3:1, not 2:1. Just saying.
Good eye, and you are correct, it is 3:1 on that leg of the tie off, but with the other static leg and a 90° bend at the main pulley I only gave it 2:1 on the primary line to be generous.
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What if I identify as a flying human or "gravity neutral" as the kids say?
Then you might already be dead 🤷♂️
My 10LB chihuahua would NOT make a good test subject.
I highly recommend strapping at least 2-3 chihuahuas into the harness to get enough mass, you can also consider altering the diet of your 1 chihuahua to include at least 10 tacos al carbon each day. I have been testing this on myself and can confirm that I am now the size of many chihuahuas. Thanks for watching Joel!
@@FreeFallinTrees 😂😂😂😂😂 Good one!
UA-cam had this in my suggested again . So I decided I should torture myself and watch it. Thx UA-cam ... thx for nothin' !
Hahaha, keep the change ya filthy animal.
Hey! How's it going? You and the family doing well , I hope?
We're all good here, keeping busy, how are you and yours?
Excellent , man. That's good to hear.
We're good. Staying busy, washing our hands and sanitizing lol. .. Fortune to still be working during all this. Hopefully everyone will be back at it soon.
Ha! Nice use of the Akimbo. Smoke em if you got em I guess... 😢
Nick Hatch exactly, do you really think I'm going to hang off a figure 8 if I've got an Akimbo in my bag? Hahaha
Lucky it was a tyre only
But I did make you wonder for a second there 😁. Thanks for watching.
And not get dead
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Ha ha love it
Ha, thanks for watching Ben.
i liked
So I subscribed and taking your advice I tested the device aka your channel and watched until the end and I unsubscribed why well you wouldn't understand but I do and I know best look a shinny thing well back to Twitter :-D
1ST General thank you for your, I would also recommend an account on reddit where you can find others with ADH... do you think cauliflower rice is as good as rice rice? I don't well back to watching Logan, it's every day bro.
surely most of this is common sense...?
No, I'm a frayed knot, and don't call me Shirley.
Poor imitation of Trump - but pretty good imitation of Alex Baldwin's poor imitation of Trump. Quit listening to Baldwin. Listen to Trump.
Bro, it's satire, get off your high horse and smile😁
You guys might not believe this, but that was an actual talking tree. Any similarity to that orange guy is strictly coincidental. 😉
Trump sycophants are worse than Clinton or Obama sycophants.
20 years of extreme sports engeneering and this is 100% unsafe. You should try and youtube mathematical formulas that can make your life easer and safer. The fact you got ingerd building one expains alot. Im not tring to put you down or say your not a good person but thats really unsafe to put on the internet. In the world of high probability of death and a 200 ft zipline you should at least have a double line plus back ups on your achor poins. 2 carabiners everywhere you placed one. Safer and stonger.
Never quote Jim Hansen he's a climate lunatic wrong about so many things he is a parody. of a scientist I see his claim of manhatten highway being underwater is still running late
Totally agree, but I was quoting Jim Henson, of Muppet fame, who was right about pretty much everything. 😁
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This is a pretty horrible video. I would never do what you are doing, your talking about safety but your including all these pieces with "rope" and making extra fail points and all kinds of stuff. If you want to be safe you just do it all with thick gauge wire from tree to tree and lock it down with heavy duty hardware. This along with your never ending jokes and the time of the video to how much real content you actually share is pretty ridiculous.
This is a pretty horrible comment. My jokes are some of the best the world has ever seen. I once killed a grown man using only laughter, which is proof that its not always the best medicine. Anyway, you do you, i use steel cable for permanent zipline installations, but that would be impractical for single day use, or in a remote location where arborist rope like mine rated at 6,000lbs works fantastic.
I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to call out a stranger on the internet for not meeting your standards for humor. 🙄
@@FreeFallinTrees It just got a little ridiculous is all. Ropes are not safe for something like that in general, doesn't matter how much they are rated for and no one cares about rope zip lines. You couldn't even make it right without running into the ground and you really beat a dead horse when talking about what tree is good or not. To use a big sizable tree is all that matters. Honestly your jokes weren't too bad but you kept going with them when they should've been done and with the frequency matched to the actual amount of zipline content you offered shows that you were just basically making a video about yourself being about as ridiculous as you could and then threw some zipline stuff in there. People make jokes in their videos all the time man but its metered to some standard of decency and respect for the viewer, they don't just keep jerking you around with nonsense after nonsense.
Thanks for the UA-cam tips. I always enjoy watching your videos and all the work you put into them. I also appreciate getting help from someone with as many subscribers as you have. Have a great day.
@@FreeFallinTrees Completely irrelevant but there you go!! Are you like a millennial child trapped in an adults body?
This was good information until you got political.
🤣🤣🤣 I'm far from political, but I do make fun of famous people and social topics. I've been making fun of that person for the last 10 years, even before he became a reality tv star and then got into politics. It's a funny UA-cam video 🤷🏼♂️