Jimmy what I've been impressed with, your from a place,, never have I heard you sound or speak with ego or trying,, I grew up in Orange County California... Huntington Beach/Westminster.. I'm 50, I was My music life, had to earn it here, until they knew you would fight every time questioned or challenged, violent everywhere, my other life was BMX my local shop was one of the 1st to sell GT bikes, your feature on This culture and evolution.. like you were here Brother.. Always entertaining and worth watching.. Oi Oi Oi @∅
Sherlock Homes was a hardman. If you look into some of the history of his character then you know that he was a bare knuckle boxer/stick cain fighter and drug fiend. The more modern portrayal of him by robert downey junior is fairly accurate.
Ross Kemp asking that guy with an AK-47 if he's going to kill him while grabbing off him and finishing off with a "Nobody's going to kill me" was probably the hardest thing in this whole genre
Im 50/50 on that scene in Papaua New Guinea...definitely credible to suggest it was real, it wasnt an AK IIRC, it was a shot gun or some form of old long rifle.
"I'm a man of the people" immediately speaks latin good lord if a script writer put that in a movie people would say it was too unrealistic of a satire
Fuckin' hell, here I was a non-Brit seeing Ross Kemp's documentaries in Afghanistan and other parts thinking he was a journalist, I am now finding out he's an actor first.
@@ras7646 Banshee was far better in my opinion, I got bored of Strike back towards season 5. Strike back was so excessive in gunfights and tits that you practically became desensitised to it. It didnt help that it happened in every episode, which didnt allow room for character development that wouldve benefited the show. The moment that made me think this was getting ridiculous was when Scott was talking to an FSB agent, that he had a prior fling before with, about getting raped by a man she was sent to infiltrate, and then they *immediately* have sex afterwards. This frustrates me because they could have had a good opportunity for character development here for Scott, who constantly shags every female character within a 10 meter vicinity , to compensate for his trauma aswell. He simply could have rejected it and it would have showed immense character growth.
It's such a shame that the cockney accent is a rarity nowadays as someone who's granddad had the accent and mannerisms of a geezer when he was younger, I love listening to him talk whenever I get the chance to speak to him, he has such a way with his words and how he speaks and it's one of the main reason I have a very southern accent as someone who grew up in the north east
Regarding the trope of everyone British in films being posh solidified the RAF's image too. Soldiers and sailors were known for being working class, but in the 30s and 40s airmen had no stereotype so the fifteen million posh actors all piled into RAF films, and everyone decided it was the posh branch. My grandad had a Yorkshire accent, and his pilot had an East Glaswegian accent and downed half a bottle of whiskey before getting in a balsawood plane and taking photos of Nazi industry. If they made a film about them they'd sound like the Eton common room.
The RAF was the most diverse employer in the 1940s. Aussies, Saffers, Cariibbeans, Sikhs, Poles, French, Dutch, Belgians, Danes, Norwegians, Czechs etc. My grandad, an Irish citizen, started the war as an LAC, and finished as a Squadron Leader, offered Wing commander if he stayed in.
He’s not talking about Cillian Murphy as in who he actually is but how his performance as Tommy Shelby has changed the hard man stereotype. Fun fact Tom hardy isn’t actually the cray twin but he played them in a movie
@@mrbutty143 but where not talking about Cillian Murphy where talking about Tommy Shelby. Like how Christin bale isn’t American billionaire who’s parent where shot dead because he made them leave a play
In fairness to them, it's an incredibly common occurrence to see British media claiming an Irish person as being British or foreign media incorrectly saying we're British (sorry lads, we're not) so seeing Cillian Murphy's character being claimed as British is a little too close to home (for some) I guarantee the only reason McGregor hasn't been claimed by the BBC is because he's such an insufferable ballbag
Hmmmm talk about English tough guys without ever mentioning Ray Winstone. He's the original unstable confrontational brawling English houlihan. My favorite movie of his is 'Nil By Mouth' directed by Gary Oldman.
The thing i like about "Hardmen" is that they're real, there's plenty of examples of people that are just like you've seen in movies like snatch. In some regards they're toned down compared to their movie counterparts. Shaun Smith is a prime example, the man basically invented drug terrorism in Ireland and the UK, you could easily write a movie just based on his experiences and it would look like fiction.
@@Bob78 ua-cam.com/video/TUzlmWWdjEQ/v-deo.htmlsi=2coTqd9Ng7N_dIUp He's a legend in his community for helping out locals yet he's built like a tank and has the firepower to back it up.
@@ConorguillReal old timer hardmen used to be a bit like that. The ones that were robbing banks and stuff in the sixties. They are all gone now though.
I've never watched Peaky Blinders, but it's a joke that Cillian Murphy is playing a hardman in the first place. He looks like a lesbian. Real hardmen don't even have necks. He's just like Christopher Walken, who often played hardmen, even though he looked like Blanche from the Golden Girls.
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I'd also like to mention The Long Good Friday. Bob Hoskins playing an English gangster was a good example of an English hardman,I wouldn't be surprised if his role inspired some of the characters in later British gangster movies like Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels and Snatch.
Your videos make me proud as punch to be English. My dad used to say "Adam England's amazing kiddo. An island so small it can be fit into the corner of californa with an empire and whats the most spoken language in the world. English. People speak english not American. "
Have to add . Human traffic , green street, rise of the foot solider, football factory. Some of my favourite films there. Also the fsr superior and original UK shameless is a gem. Frank Gallagher a British treasure
This video isn't just genius because of the awesome editing and hilarious delivery. It's genius because of the very topic itself. I mean, just get a load of that title, "The Radical Overhaul of the British Hard Man," superb. You've done it again Jimmy old sport, God's speed dear boy, you really do wallop out a ruddy good video what what (you know what voice to use when you read that last sentence)
@@natmanprime4295 hahaha really? Maybe I freaked him out kissing his ass too hard. Such a clever idea for a video I couldn't help myself but get my internet smooch on. Silly me hehehe
What a sweet hit of nostalgia, bruhv. That Tom Hardy film, Legend, held me captive the whole way through. Feeling all the feels 😂 And Guy Ritchie is eternally one of my fav filmmakers.
Surprised you didn’t talk about “Essex Boys” or “The Rise Of A Foot Soldier” which is about a football firm that ran a huge ecstasy ring and the main members (the Essex 3) ending up getting murdered in the case known Rettendon triple murders amongst other popular monikers. Exact example of hard men transcending film into real life.
An excellent script expertly spoken. I imagine getting clearance for the clips was a headache! The team who put this together are very talented people. I cannot praise them too much. It's the 0.01% of UA-cam that isn't marred by poor sentence construction, ugly wordage and/or excess verbage. That alone sets it apart. 10/10. Many thanks.
Vinnie Jones was always a bit of a tough guy but Leeds United fans remember him as someone who had a real special place in his heart for the disabled fans at the matches. Rough but genuine.
You should have referenced lenny mclean in your lockstock section . Seeing that he had a role in it . He was the original english HARDMAN . A real street fighter and debt collector . There is still alot of footage of lenny online in real fights and giving interviews.
Think Kevin bridges bit on this is best when he's talking about the rangers vs celtic episode of footballs deadliest rivalries and it's like 12AM on a Sunday, people are just waking around in colours drinking coffee and tea and you got Danny trying to hype it up like the battle of Hastings is about to kick off
What a video, I've just found you and have a lot of catching up to do. Thanks. No Shane Meadows? He did some excellent telly and film with 'hard' characters that weren't just one dimensional. And of course we had Don in sexy beast - one if the best portrayals of unhinged menace ever from Sir Ben Kingsley...
My part of South Yorkshire pronounces our word for "You" in such a distinctive way that people from the other parts of South Yorks call us a nickname based on it. The word for "You".
I'm Aussie and I'm really enjoying the deep dives into British culture from this channel. Danny Dyer was awesome in Human Traffic. It's a shame he seems to have turned into the UK equivalent of Malibu's Most Wanted if this video is anything to go by. Ross Kemp sounds like an absolute boss though.
Another movie that I always thought was a big influence on Guy Richie's style was Performance. The juxtaposition of Mick Jagger's effete pop star with the underworld hard man in hiding, and the exploration of his personality through using fly agaric, was very interesting.
I'm patiently waiting for the day we get a movie or series where the protagonist is a hard scouse, probably with subtitles because most won't understand a word.
I think you've done alot of research and I do agree with all your points, but I do think you should of mentioned Harold Shand from The Long Good Friday, he was the tough guy that has inspired every single one of Guy Ritchies crime films, it was controversial at the time, but it was ahead of it's time, diving into the characters emotions such as pride, anger, hated and fear. Harold Shand felt like the British prototype of Tony Soprano. It came out in 1980, Lock Stock and two Smoking Barrels came out in 1998 and The Sopranos came out in 1999, so it came along 20 years too early.
Definitely Long Good Friday, good call. I'd also throw in Scum by Alan Clarke and anything by Shane Meadows. Always felt that many (not all) of the Footie Hardmen type films were showbiz folk fetishizing the stereotype, rather than digging into it. Fun to watch, but little else.
@@itswilbur3747 Scum is a good shout and something by Shane Meadows would be good, I'd say This is England over Dead man's fingers simply because it also had 3 series after.
@@ldwp6395 This is England is a and the following series really gets in to the culture/people of the time, in the way that Guy Ritchie/Nick Love types just caricature. Although Dead Man's Shoes really does a great job of showing those small town British bully boys. Knew plenty of them growing up.
I'm surprised that Terry (Dennis Waterman) from Minder and even before that, The Sweeney (hard men cops behaving badly) and even perhaps, The Professionals.
@@gunrock00 That's also a good choice, especially Terry from Minder. His characterisation was different as he was someone who could of been the average hard man, but his morals had him try to do the right thing.
Speaking as a guy who was born and bred in Luton, I definitely want that film to come out, then people can see what I used to put up with day after day 🤣😂
Very cool. For some reason every stereotype gets this enhanced flavor if its a Brit. An American hardman is just some douche, but one with a British accent is something that catches your ear.
I do have a major soft spot for the british 'ard man. Also, if it hasn't been said enough, Ross Kemp is truly a real life badass and a fantastic journalist.
When I was growing up in America in the 80s and 90s, there was a wide spread belief that Brits were smartest than us, their vocabularies were broader, and they spoke so quickly and effortlessly. Then Oasis became a big band over here as well and suddenly we got to hear Liam Gallagher speak and it was like “oh most of Britain is actually working class and barely literate”. After that it was a lot easier for Americans to accept that hooliganism and all the fist fights and stabbings that are a part of daily life in the UK cause you’re just like us except with less guns
@@JackHGUK don’t forget convicts in Georgia, and the Africans Europeans bought and sold and the indigenous survivors of diseases Europeans brought. over.
Great video mate, but some classic British hardmen you missed: Terry mccann - Minder Oz - Auf wiedersehen pet Yosser- Boys from the blackstuff Regan & Carter- The Sweeney
Mate, this was a cracking video. It's really well made, and I like the sprinkling of humour throughout. And when you mentioned Luton, I frigging lost it. Yeah if they make a film about my hometown, fuck that would be something else. 😂
Danny Dyer reminds me of the people in the South park episode Super phun thyme where they go to a recreation of a pioneer village and the employees never break character
No film or show has ever done a better job of creating the “hard man” act dancing the line beteeen dani dyer and James Bond like Snatch with all the characters in it that was imo the peak of the uk “hard man” stereotype
There is a couple of 007movies where he fights British bad guys One of them is Sean bean The other is Robert Carlyle There is probably more Sorry can’t remember the names of these bond movie’s It was the later ones
@Elyseon Yeah, Bond walks into a Bar, orders a "Shaken not Stirred" and tries to flirt with a Tough Guy's girlfriend. Tough Guy calls him a posh tosser, and all hell breaks loose as they brawl. Later we learn the Tough Guy and Bond are either supposed to be partners or the Tough Guy is the Villain or his main enforcer. The Tough Guy and Bond try to one up each other and in the end they have a fight where perhaps the Tough Guy wins the Brawl but Bond completes the mission anyway through cunning and the Tough Guy and Bond go their seperate ways with mutual respect and an unfinished rivalry. Until the Next Movie! Roll Credits with Music and Graphics 🔫 💃 🎶 💥 🚘 💪 🚀 🌊⚓️🔎 . James Bond and the Tough Guy will return.
Well this is the first vid i have seen of yours and it was superb! You have a new subscriber and i am looking forward to checking out your previous work.
@@eadweard.He did include him in his list of British hardmen, but I think it’s obvious he means his character, wouldn’t exactly call Cillian Murphy a hardman in real life
Around age 4 or 5, my introduction to the British 'tough guy' was through The Mitchell Brothers in "Eastenders". My parents somehow just never turned off the telly whenever the programme was on and in episodes whenever a fight broke out involving them, I was both intimidated and cheering them on. Nowadays as an adult, partially trying to land a job in acting and play a hard-man, I've got old clips of The Mitchell Brothers to help me practice 😂
titles: (1) How The "Hardman" Redefined British Culture; (2) Britain's Forgotten TV Tough Guy Era; (3) The Radical Overhaul of British Men in Movies; (4) [Again] How The "Hardman" Redefined British Culture; (5) The British Tough Guy Trope, Explained
Would love to watch a video from you NZ vs England, similar to ur USA vs England video. But it can be tough doing videos like that as u gotta know alot on the other country too, I feel you’d a great job tho.
I don't understand how you could fail to bring up Begbie from _Trainspotting_ - he's the perfect geezer. Admittedly he doesn't speak cockney though.. 😅
I knew a bloke who had phychiatric problems,was one of Britain's strongest men. I got to know him by chatting in a pub,Big bald and tatoos even on his head.A great friend to have.I was having a pint with him and only can describe some southern Gangsters turn up.He left with them for I do not know but imagine someone had a whole lot of hurt that afternoon.
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There's a Football factory sequel in production called MARCHING POWDER i belive lol
Jimmy what I've been impressed with, your from a place,, never have I heard you sound or speak with ego or trying,, I grew up in Orange County California... Huntington Beach/Westminster.. I'm 50, I was My music life, had to earn it here, until they knew you would fight every time questioned or challenged, violent everywhere, my other life was BMX my local shop was one of the 1st to sell GT bikes, your feature on This culture and evolution.. like you were here Brother..
Always entertaining and worth watching..
Oi Oi Oi
@∅
Sherlock Homes was a hardman. If you look into some of the history of his character then you know that he was a bare knuckle boxer/stick cain fighter and drug fiend. The more modern portrayal of him by robert downey junior is fairly accurate.
@@AtZero138 Thanks man! appreciate the comment
dont forget "Brighton Rock" 1948.. watch it if you have not, pinky
Danny Dyer naming his daughter Dani Dyer is the funniest shit
Truly
Oh no he din't omfg
I'm pretty confident he wrote his name in the wrong box (spelled incorrectly of course) and didn't notice until it was too late
Dani Dyer named her son Danny Dyer.
The professional cockney ,
Ross Kemp asking that guy with an AK-47 if he's going to kill him while grabbing off him and finishing off with a "Nobody's going to kill me" was probably the hardest thing in this whole genre
Was probably fake though…just give them a tenner and create a scenario
Im 50/50 on that scene in Papaua New Guinea...definitely credible to suggest it was real, it wasnt an AK IIRC, it was a shot gun or some form of old long rifle.
@@interesting2491 it wasnt fake that is how the gang tests new people.he passed the test
Did you know they told him what SAS it stands for Super Army Soldiers
Is this that scene where they were sprinkling cocaine on the floor to get rid of “bad juju” ? 🤣
"I'm a man of the people"
immediately speaks latin
good lord if a script writer put that in a movie people would say it was too unrealistic of a satire
Yeah, right! Cant believe people are not picking that!
Jacob Rees-Mogg is about an accurate portrayal of the quintessential British man, as Borat is of the typical Kazakhstani
Come on that's a very well known Latin phrase, at least here in Italy
@Bolognabeef OK? Well it's not a well known phrase in England.
@@jupitersnoot4915 damn y'all dumb af fr then
Fuckin' hell, here I was a non-Brit seeing Ross Kemp's documentaries in Afghanistan and other parts thinking he was a journalist, I am now finding out he's an actor first.
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@@Desmond9100 that show was basically the prototype for Strike Back.
You should go
@@Naz-xk6hq Damn, the good old days. They don't make shows like that and Banshee any more
@@ras7646 Banshee was far better in my opinion, I got bored of Strike back towards season 5. Strike back was so excessive in gunfights and tits that you practically became desensitised to it. It didnt help that it happened in every episode, which didnt allow room for character development that wouldve benefited the show.
The moment that made me think this was getting ridiculous was when Scott was talking to an FSB agent, that he had a prior fling before with, about getting raped by a man she was sent to infiltrate, and then they *immediately* have sex afterwards. This frustrates me because they could have had a good opportunity for character development here for Scott, who constantly shags every female character within a 10 meter vicinity , to compensate for his trauma aswell. He simply could have rejected it and it would have showed immense character growth.
Jimmy never fails to rip my limb apart one by one as I scream in excrutiating pain and agony meanwhile my consciousness slowly fades away
Wit
You're cooked. Settle your crease 😅
Maybe you should see a doctor?
@@kai_plays_khomus Not a bad idea
@@craigslater8227 'How'd you do, fellow kids'
It's such a shame that the cockney accent is a rarity nowadays as someone who's granddad had the accent and mannerisms of a geezer when he was younger, I love listening to him talk whenever I get the chance to speak to him, he has such a way with his words and how he speaks and it's one of the main reason I have a very southern accent as someone who grew up in the north east
it has a lot of personality, you do sometimes here it but its dying. maybe a video in there
It's a shame, but it kind of lives on in Essex. Most of the white working class in east London have moved further east to Essex
@@rorz999Also lurking in Kent.
My whole British family are very very cockney and I live for it
Everyone wants to sound black now. West country, Manchester, Birmingham; they're all adopting the yardie-roadman accent.
Regarding the trope of everyone British in films being posh solidified the RAF's image too.
Soldiers and sailors were known for being working class, but in the 30s and 40s airmen had no stereotype so the fifteen million posh actors all piled into RAF films, and everyone decided it was the posh branch.
My grandad had a Yorkshire accent, and his pilot had an East Glaswegian accent and downed half a bottle of whiskey before getting in a balsawood plane and taking photos of Nazi industry.
If they made a film about them they'd sound like the Eton common room.
"East glaswegian" - my neck of the woods 😂
@@RedPhil87 What does that mean?
@@mleszzor6866 it means he lives in east glasgow (scotland). 👍
@@notbadsteve Thanks!
The RAF was the most diverse employer in the 1940s. Aussies, Saffers, Cariibbeans, Sikhs, Poles, French, Dutch, Belgians, Danes, Norwegians, Czechs etc. My grandad, an Irish citizen, started the war as an LAC, and finished as a Squadron Leader, offered Wing commander if he stayed in.
He’s not talking about Cillian Murphy as in who he actually is but how his performance as Tommy Shelby has changed the hard man stereotype. Fun fact Tom hardy isn’t actually the cray twin but he played them in a movie
Its insane how many people haven’t realised that 😂 cheers for ya comment
Cillian Murphy is Irish he is from Cork . Which is actually a sub culture within irisn culture
@@mrbutty143 but where not talking about Cillian Murphy where talking about Tommy Shelby. Like how Christin bale isn’t American billionaire who’s parent where shot dead because he made them leave a play
In fairness to them, it's an incredibly common occurrence to see British media claiming an Irish person as being British or foreign media incorrectly saying we're British (sorry lads, we're not) so seeing Cillian Murphy's character being claimed as British is a little too close to home (for some) I guarantee the only reason McGregor hasn't been claimed by the BBC is because he's such an insufferable ballbag
@@RuB0t spot on
When people say 'the late 1900s', I feel about 100 years old.
my man we're a quarter through the 2000s already
@@mongrel_97username checks out
Yeah, 1906-1909.
Love these breakdowns of British culture. It was your chav video that made me subscribe.
English rather than ‘British.’
@@stevegriffey8255not with this video, hooligans are welsh english scottish manx cornish etc
@@briton3851 I’m English… Watch it now! 😆
Hmmmm talk about English tough guys without ever mentioning Ray Winstone. He's the original unstable confrontational brawling English houlihan. My favorite movie of his is 'Nil By Mouth' directed by Gary Oldman.
That scene with Kathy Burke is hard to watch
Ben Kingsley in Sexy beast. The most frightening character I've seen on tv
Yes scum is one of my fave films ever
"A British Tar", a song from Gilbert and Sullivan's 1878 operetta, H.M.S. Pinafore
The thing i like about "Hardmen" is that they're real, there's plenty of examples of people that are just like you've seen in movies like snatch. In some regards they're toned down compared to their movie counterparts.
Shaun Smith is a prime example, the man basically invented drug terrorism in Ireland and the UK, you could easily write a movie just based on his experiences and it would look like fiction.
sorry, his name is Shaun Smith. SHAUN SMITH??????
Nah the movie hardman has the brutality of the real-life wannabes but with a charm / humour / propriety absent from the irl equivalents
@@Bob78 ua-cam.com/video/TUzlmWWdjEQ/v-deo.htmlsi=2coTqd9Ng7N_dIUp He's a legend in his community for helping out locals yet he's built like a tank and has the firepower to back it up.
@@ConorguillReal old timer hardmen used to be a bit like that. The ones that were robbing banks and stuff in the sixties. They are all gone now though.
I'm American and I love the British Hardman trope. Especially Tommy Shelby and Daniel Craig's 007.
007 is not hard he is just well trained
How about Captain Price?
007 doesn’t fit this archetype
I've never watched Peaky Blinders, but it's a joke that Cillian Murphy is playing a hardman in the first place. He looks like a lesbian. Real hardmen don't even have necks. He's just like Christopher Walken, who often played hardmen, even though he looked like Blanche from the Golden Girls.
@@bubz3t136so you had all that to say about a show you never watched? Intelligent take, sir.
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I'd also like to mention The Long Good Friday. Bob Hoskins playing an English gangster was a good example of an English hardman,I wouldn't be surprised if his role inspired some of the characters in later British gangster movies like Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels and Snatch.
The Gentlemen is basically Guy Richies version of The Long Good Friday, it even loosely follows the storyline and the (near) ending is the same
Awesome movie awesome cast
Don't forget Michael Caine in 'Get Carter' in 1971, an absolute classic.
Spot on!
Gentleman sucked ass though. @@northfield3654
Your videos make me proud as punch to be English. My dad used to say "Adam England's amazing kiddo. An island so small it can be fit into the corner of californa with an empire and whats the most spoken language in the world. English. People speak english not American. "
Have to add . Human traffic , green street, rise of the foot solider, football factory. Some of my favourite films there. Also the fsr superior and original UK shameless is a gem. Frank Gallagher a British treasure
@@Wazza25 Could we include Sacha Baron Cohen's character in 'Grimsby Brothers' as a comedic example - even if it is completely parodic?
Every English speaking country outside the USA speaks British English
Cillian Murphy is not English or British. He is Irish. Fact.
@vanbeet5105 there's only one English and it's just called "English" you donut 🤦♂️
This video isn't just genius because of the awesome editing and hilarious delivery.
It's genius because of the very topic itself.
I mean, just get a load of that title, "The Radical Overhaul of the British Hard Man," superb.
You've done it again Jimmy old sport, God's speed dear boy, you really do wallop out a ruddy good video what what (you know what voice to use when you read that last sentence)
...and now he's changed the title
@@natmanprime4295 hahaha really? Maybe I freaked him out kissing his ass too hard. Such a clever idea for a video I couldn't help myself but get my internet smooch on. Silly me hehehe
What a sweet hit of nostalgia, bruhv. That Tom Hardy film, Legend, held me captive the whole way through. Feeling all the feels 😂 And Guy Ritchie is eternally one of my fav filmmakers.
As an American who's seen Danny's show I laughed my ass off "and then there's Danny Dyer"😂
He's funny on panel shaws.
Standouts for me is when he does 'dictionary corner' on 8OOTCDC.
the Ross Kemp documentaries were insane!
great video bro!
i feel like the film Dead Mans Shoes, needed a shout out
One of my all time favourite films !
Surprised you didn’t talk about “Essex Boys” or “The Rise Of A Foot Soldier” which is about a football firm that ran a huge ecstasy ring and the main members (the Essex 3) ending up getting murdered in the case known Rettendon triple murders amongst other popular monikers. Exact example of hard men transcending film into real life.
The real carlton leach makes a cameo in it I think.
Did Hooligans sell drugs in real life?
You should research Dutch hooligans /skinheads
>1000% drugs@@MbisonBalrog
@@MbisonBalrog The ICF - Inter City Firm did security for the raves.
@@MbisonBalrog Yep BIG time by the 90s rave culture also stopped loads of lads heading in that direction
Let's Go ! That was a great watch.geeza ! Danny Dyer bit was spot on 🤣
An excellent script expertly spoken. I imagine getting clearance for the clips was a headache! The team who put this together are very talented people. I cannot praise them too much.
It's the 0.01% of UA-cam that isn't marred by poor sentence construction, ugly wordage and/or excess verbage. That alone sets it apart. 10/10.
Many thanks.
Great video mate. Aussie here.
Absolutely love British movies and shows over Hollywood. Bronson wasn't a fictional hard man. Bronson was terrifying.
🇨🇦 Here and I've learned so much. Well done, subscribed
You forgot about Begbie from Trainspotting.
Begbie was hard, but not so hard that he didn't shite it off 20 years in Sultan.
@@GR-cf4qh You win the comment and all comments.
Well played sir.
To me... Bullet Tooth Tony..all his lines are unchallenged, pure greatness
Vinnie Jones was always a bit of a tough guy but Leeds United fans remember him as someone who had a real special place in his heart for the disabled fans at the matches. Rough but genuine.
Danny Dyer as a "hard man" always made me laugh, he's about as hard as melted butter.
would love to see a video discussing the north south divide and nuances and differences in culture
You should have referenced lenny mclean in your lockstock section . Seeing that he had a role in it . He was the original english HARDMAN . A real street fighter and debt collector . There is still alot of footage of lenny online in real fights and giving interviews.
Might make a full vid on him - so i didnt wanna go on too much of a tangent
Danny dyer was always shitting it on deadly mens and the real football factory it was comical 🤣🤣🤣
Apparently in real life hes a nice bloke and a bit of a softy and the cockney ardman thing is just an act
Can you blame him.
He's a posh boy and he's not a unit, plus a lot of genuine hard men are genuine nutters.
Think Kevin bridges bit on this is best when he's talking about the rangers vs celtic episode of footballs deadliest rivalries and it's like 12AM on a Sunday, people are just waking around in colours drinking coffee and tea and you got Danny trying to hype it up like the battle of Hastings is about to kick off
I had other things to say, but your closing comment just made me laugh so hard, I don't need to anymore.
Nice one mate.
What a video, I've just found you and have a lot of catching up to do. Thanks.
No Shane Meadows? He did some excellent telly and film with 'hard' characters that weren't just one dimensional. And of course we had Don in sexy beast - one if the best portrayals of unhinged menace ever from Sir Ben Kingsley...
Dude, you just spoke my mind. Great video.
HUGE fan Jimmy. Really interesting videos, well researched and presented in such an engaging manner. Keep up the excellent work.
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It's so funny to hear Geezer explained this way because it means something very different in the states.
And that isssssss?
@@jackclancy2189 Think in the US it just means an old man.
Fuckin hell the Danny dyer bit has me creasing
The variety of have accents in Britain always astounds me, considering the entire island is relatively small.
My part of South Yorkshire pronounces our word for "You" in such a distinctive way that people from the other parts of South Yorks call us a nickname based on it.
The word for "You".
@@stalfithrildi5366 Dee dar's?
Love coming back every hour to see the new video title
Phenomenal work as always. You're spot on in terms of differentiating the work of Danny Dyer and Ross Kemp.
I'm Aussie and I'm really enjoying the deep dives into British culture from this channel. Danny Dyer was awesome in Human Traffic. It's a shame he seems to have turned into the UK equivalent of Malibu's Most Wanted if this video is anything to go by. Ross Kemp sounds like an absolute boss though.
Another movie that I always thought was a big influence on Guy Richie's style was Performance. The juxtaposition of Mick Jagger's effete pop star with the underworld hard man in hiding, and the exploration of his personality through using fly agaric, was very interesting.
I'm patiently waiting for the day we get a movie or series where the protagonist is a hard scouse, probably with subtitles because most won't understand a word.
Terry o'Neill would've played a good scouse hardman villain but he was a very well spoken scouser
Not even the scouser's know what they say half the time.
Scousers, Mancs, Geordies, Weegies and Irish all tough as anyone.
I think that would come under the heading of fantasy 😂
I like that you did a Bri'ish accent the whole time, very authentic-sounding.
I think you've done alot of research and I do agree with all your points, but I do think you should of mentioned Harold Shand from The Long Good Friday, he was the tough guy that has inspired every single one of Guy Ritchies crime films, it was controversial at the time, but it was ahead of it's time, diving into the characters emotions such as pride, anger, hated and fear. Harold Shand felt like the British prototype of Tony Soprano. It came out in 1980, Lock Stock and two Smoking Barrels came out in 1998 and The Sopranos came out in 1999, so it came along 20 years too early.
Definitely Long Good Friday, good call.
I'd also throw in Scum by Alan Clarke and anything by Shane Meadows.
Always felt that many (not all) of the Footie Hardmen type films were showbiz folk fetishizing the stereotype, rather than digging into it. Fun to watch, but little else.
@@itswilbur3747 Scum is a good shout and something by Shane Meadows would be good, I'd say This is England over Dead man's fingers simply because it also had 3 series after.
@@ldwp6395 This is England is a and the following series really gets in to the culture/people of the time, in the way that Guy Ritchie/Nick Love types just caricature.
Although Dead Man's Shoes really does a great job of showing those small town British bully boys. Knew plenty of them growing up.
I'm surprised that Terry (Dennis Waterman) from Minder and even before that, The Sweeney (hard men cops behaving badly) and even perhaps, The Professionals.
@@gunrock00 That's also a good choice, especially Terry from Minder. His characterisation was different as he was someone who could of been the average hard man, but his morals had him try to do the right thing.
Lock stock and two smoking barrels is such a masterpiece! One of my favorite movies
Ross Kemp in Extras is on point….
Super, Army Soldiers.
I'm no footie fan but the image of Vinnie grabbing Gazza by the knackers is iconic.
Speaking as a guy who was born and bred in Luton, I definitely want that film to come out, then people can see what I used to put up with day after day 🤣😂
Good video mate well researched and presented keep it up :)
🔥🔥🔥🔥 ngl was hoping for a half hour video
I'm a new subscriber, really enjoying the videos. So well presented and amusing, and you can see the research that has gone into them. Great stuff.
Very cool. For some reason every stereotype gets this enhanced flavor if its a Brit. An American hardman is just some douche, but one with a British accent is something that catches your ear.
Haha as an American I can say this is true
our equivalent would be something like a tough-as-nails southerner
Really interesting piece. I didn't know the history with the Hays guidelines.
Hella insightful bud. Great piece.
Great video mate! Glad I found this channel.
I do have a major soft spot for the british 'ard man. Also, if it hasn't been said enough, Ross Kemp is truly a real life badass and a fantastic journalist.
When I was growing up in America in the 80s and 90s, there was a wide spread belief that Brits were smartest than us, their vocabularies were broader, and they spoke so quickly and effortlessly. Then Oasis became a big band over here as well and suddenly we got to hear Liam Gallagher speak and it was like “oh most of Britain is actually working class and barely literate”. After that it was a lot easier for Americans to accept that hooliganism and all the fist fights and stabbings that are a part of daily life in the UK cause you’re just like us except with less guns
well you actually still have more stabbings even with guns but i digress
@@pevebe yeah we’re the descendants of unruly people your crown couldn’t govern, so that checks out
Religious fanatics Europe kicked out you mean @@joegibbskins
@@JackHGUK don’t forget convicts in Georgia, and the Africans Europeans bought and sold and the indigenous survivors of diseases Europeans brought. over.
then the republicans blew it out of proportion for whataboutism's sake
Danny dyer is as tough as my grandmas slipper😂😂😂😂😂
What a laugh
Yup he was good in human traffic. That's it.
I gave a like simply because of your opening… it was beautiful
Great video mate, but some classic British hardmen you missed:
Terry mccann - Minder
Oz - Auf wiedersehen pet
Yosser- Boys from the blackstuff
Regan & Carter- The Sweeney
Even DelBoy was a bit feared.
Dennis Waterman RIP
Some great and well written characters. Also great shows which actually depicted the real life people rather than the 80-90's films mentioned here.
Bodie & doyle
Do you remember a BBC One program called Gangsters from the 70's?
Mate, this was a cracking video. It's really well made, and I like the sprinkling of humour throughout. And when you mentioned Luton, I frigging lost it. Yeah if they make a film about my hometown, fuck that would be something else. 😂
Grants part in Extras with Vinnie was brilliant
SAS - Super Army Soldiers
This channel is awesome. Really entertaining and informative. Keep up the great work, Jimmy!
They don't make movies like Lock Stock anymore. It was so intricate and well put together
Its less common but guy ritchie still is killing it - the gentleman was brilliant
Really great video mate! Very good editing and well spoken :)
Danny Dyer reminds me of the people in the South park episode Super phun thyme where they go to a recreation of a pioneer village and the employees never break character
Love Your videos Jimmy, You're a credit to southern banter ❤
No film or show has ever done a better job of creating the “hard man” act dancing the line beteeen dani dyer and James Bond like Snatch with all the characters in it that was imo the peak of the uk “hard man” stereotype
My dad did the sound on lock stock and it definitely changed a lot about the perception of British culture in general!!
the classic british tough guy couldn't survive the millions of new doctors and engineers arriving on the streets of British cities, such a shame
Wasn't expecting much, but this was good
I want to see James Bond fight a British tough guy villain.
There is a couple of 007movies where he fights British bad guys
One of them is Sean bean
The other is Robert Carlyle
There is probably more
Sorry can’t remember the names of these bond movie’s
It was the later ones
Bond on vacation getting caught in a pub brawl?
@Elyseon Yeah, Bond walks into a Bar, orders a "Shaken not Stirred" and tries to flirt with a Tough Guy's girlfriend. Tough Guy calls him a posh tosser, and all hell breaks loose as they brawl. Later we learn the Tough Guy and Bond are either supposed to be partners or the Tough Guy is the Villain or his main enforcer. The Tough Guy and Bond try to one up each other and in the end they have a fight where perhaps the Tough Guy wins the Brawl but Bond completes the mission anyway through cunning and the Tough Guy and Bond go their seperate ways with mutual respect and an unfinished rivalry. Until the Next Movie! Roll Credits with Music and Graphics 🔫 💃 🎶 💥 🚘 💪 🚀 🌊⚓️🔎 .
James Bond and the Tough Guy will return.
That would be an excellent villain.
Amazing video on this for real they need to bring this archatype back
Can't wait for Luton the movie!
Think there's a series called Stevenage and Luton the movie will be using a lot of the same actors.
Good job man, you've got another subscriber with this one
You need to watch "Performance" and "Get Carter" (both 1971) if you want to see something closer to the real roots of the trope . . .
And the Long Good Friday
@@thomsboys77 Without LGF and GC there's a huge history gap in this video.
Great job once more , Jimmy! keep em coming!
Would love to see you do a video on the rise and fall of Bebo
Well this is the first vid i have seen of yours and it was superb! You have a new subscriber and i am looking forward to checking out your previous work.
Alright algorithm, I've clicked on the video. You can stop showing it in my recommended now
4:10 “you long streak of piss” has to be one of the best insults ever 😂
I imagine Cillian Murphy wont be too happy being referred to as british
I don't think he did, did he?
@@eadweard.He did include him in his list of British hardmen, but I think it’s obvious he means his character, wouldn’t exactly call Cillian Murphy a hardman in real life
@funkyfranx sure he's from caaaark
Isn't his character Thomas Shelby of Irish and Romani ancestry?
7:21 just like my first dump. Lock, stock and two smoking barrels absolutely took my breath away.
Britan was a superpower from the 1600s to the 1970s,of course they are going to have some tough customers that get to the business.
Too bad the West has been neutered.
Around age 4 or 5, my introduction to the British 'tough guy' was through The Mitchell Brothers in "Eastenders". My parents somehow just never turned off the telly whenever the programme was on and in episodes whenever a fight broke out involving them, I was both intimidated and cheering them on. Nowadays as an adult, partially trying to land a job in acting and play a hard-man, I've got old clips of The Mitchell Brothers to help me practice 😂
titles: (1) How The "Hardman" Redefined British Culture; (2) Britain's Forgotten TV Tough Guy Era; (3) The Radical Overhaul of British Men in Movies; (4) [Again] How The "Hardman" Redefined British Culture; (5) The British Tough Guy Trope, Explained
This is one of the most put together videos I've watched in a long time, easy sub from me my son;)
Ross Kemp interviewed us California gangs
There is a Danny Dyer 'real football factories' pisstake on youtube from the early 2000s, it's brilliant and worth a watch. Massively underrated.
Let's be honest, that hardman thing is also part of your youtube persona / brand... ain't it Jimmy da G?
Great vid of course.
Would love to watch a video from you NZ vs England, similar to ur USA vs England video. But it can be tough doing videos like that as u gotta know alot on the other country too, I feel you’d a great job tho.
Danny Dyer is Lent Paul from GTA San Andreas & Vice City
I knew I recognised that voice from somewhere looool🤣🤣🤣
I don't understand how you could fail to bring up Begbie from _Trainspotting_ - he's the perfect geezer. Admittedly he doesn't speak cockney though.. 😅
Francis Begbie is your classic Scottish nutter, a psychopath. For me, I'd say the typical Geezer is more of a sorta, self-aggrandizing sociopath.
I knew a bloke who had phychiatric problems,was one of Britain's strongest men. I got to know him by chatting in a pub,Big bald and tatoos even on his head.A great friend to have.I was having a pint with him and only can describe some southern Gangsters turn up.He left with them for I do not know but imagine someone had a whole lot of hurt that afternoon.
Isn't Murphy irish though?
I really enjoy the content and comments on this channel. New sub ❤