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I have to deal with the American skin head culture here. Just a bunch of Racist people who like to shave their heads, I think one of the worst experiences I had with 1 was when they sent their German Shepherd dog after me, That was not a good day.
Enjoy the vid
Thanks for making it
Yeah good vid mate
- a skinhead
One thing most people get wrong about the hippies, is that many of them could scrap and were up for a scrap...The 'Peace and love' was a big element to hippies(the televised element to them), but not the only element. American hippies were widely known be good for a punch-up if it came to it.
Jimmy...., how can you see swastika fans in Poland where Germans under swastika destroyed whole Poland ? its Like England Hate Queen Elizabeth yet stamp her portrait everywhere . contact me for more info
As a non-british (normal) person, I appreciate Britain's ability to create endless subcultures every couple of years.
Was the (normal) really necessary 😂
@@yemarli11 there needs to be clear divide between the homo britoni and the more common homo sapiens like between other similar species
Been zero youth culture, fashion or music since the 90's just scruffy track suit wearing base ball cap wearing chavs speaking in a ridiculous fake black accent with faces in there phones. What a crap time to be young now.
not anymore.
@@therealgeneralMacArthurwe are the superior race, I don’t mind separating us from the mutts 🗿
I remember in the early 80's hearing about skinheads and they would hang out
at the video arcade in my city that had the best variety of games but I was too
intimidated to go in because of what I heard about skinheads.
Eventually, one of my non-skinhead friends decided to "take one for the team"
and go down to the arcade and face them but to his surprise, they just looked
him up and down and then went back to their business.
Eventually we all went down to the arcade and the same thing happened. They
just looked at us and went about their business.
Eventually, after 2 months of going down there they became friendly with us &
we ended up sharing the same taste in music (some of it being dub reggae &
they introduced us to the Clash) so the media hype surrounding skinheads was
just a hoax.
shocking, i wonder what other major narratives that are unquestionable in our society are also hoaxes.
plot twist you became a skinhead
Some skinheads were liberal hare krisnas. Others were haters of those skinheads and of minorities of all descriptions.
Yep the version known today was actually caused by that very same media hype.
Now think about what that same media is causing right now… today. In our current lives.
i was there... it was a weird time
I was Skinhead growing up in London and I’m still Skinhead at heart today. Long live the spirit of 69. I’m half Scottish and half Jamaican and raised in London.
The spirit of 69 will be best honored when we're back on the moon.
You sir, are a toff, and that’s no mistake guvnor.
Top man
@@Makaneek5060 We never went !!! ...
@@user-cd4fj2sl7m We went but the Soviets beat us there and that would be bad press so Armstrong's landing was fake.
I grew up in 90s Bulgaria and I think that's when the skinhead culture was at its strongest here. They were full blown neo-nazis, and their favourite passtime was beating up gypsies, metalheads, hippies, and LGBTQ people, and adorning the cities with nazi swasticas and white power bs. I don't think music was ever as important to them as the their nazi nonsence, even though there were a few local ska-punk bands that were popular with them. A lot of this culture morphed into the football hooligans culture of today, but a lot of the more promintent skinhead neonazis grew up and started working in politics. So when I think of a skinhead, I always think of the violence and racism that surrounded them.
Funnily, I've lived in the UK for some time and when I think about a British skinhead, I'm actually thinking about the skinhead part of the British LGBTQ culture. Dudes in Doc Martens, suspenders and shaved heads that you expect to be into some sort of kink but are generally super sweet and nice, and the complete oposite of the skinheads from back home.
This is the skinhead I remember as 35 Jamaican born in UK London
Yeah it’s funny cos I grew up in the north of the uk after the skinhead scene had kinda died down (2000’s specifically). I always associated them with neo-nazism/fascism. Actually learning about the subculture and where it comes from is really interesting. It’s a shame it got associated with such vile groups considering it’s origins
@@shaesmith2831you'd have to be a bumbling, ignorant idiot to think someone is racist for having a certain hairstyle..
The truth is. The original skinheads. In the UK were just teenagers. Rebelling and doing what teenagers do. Listening to the music they liked. Hanging out with their mates. It was a phase to most of them. And most of them grew out of it. It largely no longer exists. And any versions that do. Are either media stereotypes. People who have fetishsized it. Or original skins who celebrate the original version and have tried to reclaim the image. And present it the way it was. To set the record straight. They have had a lot of success doing that. Never in the history of teenage fashion. Have so much distortion taken place. It was never about politics. But the media created a frankensteins monster with that one.
cska sofia skins allways out to get the cygan stealing
back in the 90s I went to see a Two-tone band called Bad Manners. I was a preteen when Bad Manners were popular so I didn't realise that Bad Manners was a skinhead band. There I was, one black man surrounded by 500 skins. They were fine. No one threatened me with a stanley knife so that was a result.
90s era was, Based "Traditional" Ska Rocksteady scene here in L.A/OC California 🇺🇸,,
Oceans 11, HepCat etc, My friends opened up for Bad Manners at the Showcase Theater...
When I would take my "not" scene friends I would introduce them as Mine, so no B.S etc...
Heavy Hispanic/Latino Skinhead scene.. also Gang's.. crew's ...
So my "white" Brothers or Normals could go without Drama...
Skinhead has always been about the Music and the love I found...
Check my playlist.. Roots of Reggae...
If you want.. the channels who posted the music need respect..
@∅
Singing a love song to a can of super strength lager, CLASSIC!
That’s because the majority of the skins in the world aren’t racist
research..research chemicals 😂😂❤
@@PoundShopScooterManI love you yes a do gonna spend all my money on you!
Now I'm 54 and balding, I have to embrace the skinhead haircut I hated as a child. 😂
Same here
I may not be white but in a few years count me in 😅
Snap
It's liberating. During lockdown, when all the barbers were closed, I buzzed my hair off with a beard trimmer and it felt so great. If/when I go bald, I'll know that living a combover life is an act of insecurity. Better to just shave it all off and be free.
what you put on your feet matter now
I'm an old man in New Mexico. Thank you for telling me what half the songs on my Specials and Madness albums were about.
I have a shaved head, Dr Martin boots, a Harrington jacket, and a love of 60s Jamaican music. This video is mostly right, but the non-racist Skinhead movement was and still is a bigger deal than portrayed here.
Also, the Oi! thing isn’t associated with far-right or racist politics. Boneheads have their own music they call RAC or Rock Against Communism. It’s not liked by Oi! music aficionados or traditional skins.
I agree
As a skinhead from 79 to 84 ,it was a turbulent time. Im definitely not racist but loved “uniform” and the energy of Oi music and still do.
My exceptionally shiny boots and cropped hair actually got me my first job and career. Though I can’t remember his name now, the area manager of Windshields Ltd , (now Autoglass) was in the shop when I turned up for a YOP placement,a work experience program. He told the manager to take me on as my appearance was immaculate. This was 1982 high unemployment, recession etc. I ended up staying for 11 years before moving to America and Safelite an international part of Autoglass.
I guess what I’m saying is never judge a book by its cover.(you’re not). Great video. Thank you.
In 69 most skinheads were aggressive wankers.
But you literally described a story where you WERE judged by how you looked and got a job for it.
@@KasumiRINA not really good at explaining myself mate. Sorry. Had had a beer before writing. You are right.
But most people thought skinheads as all bad, they weren’t. Media liked to make it bigger than it was. I am forever grateful to that manager for the positive attitude he had for me
@@KasumiRINAgo watch the old geraldo Rivera show when skinheads came on and that brawl happened when he got his nose broken you'll understand what he means
@@gaillaffer7579 not all, but it was a crude mentality of always looking for victims to bash
There's a lot of nuance missing in this analysis. I feel the entire skinhead era would make for a fascinating historical explanation, but no one wants to go beyond the sanitized story that has been repeated a million times before.
A group of neo-nazi racists. What else is there to know.
Truer words have never been spoken, this is as vanilla as it gets
Yea the guy just seems to be your avg 20 year old western dumbass
I see all types of videos like this on UA-cam talking about subcultures and they end up leaving out a lot of important stuff that leaves people making assumptions
Yeah here's the deal, I'm pretty pro for the old school skinhead shit. Always look at it as just a working class movement. If there's shit being left out I'd love to see a deeper analysis of the whole history
I'm from Spain, here the peak was late 80's early 90's, I was a SHARP at this time.
Were you guys into NYHC, crossover, or thrash at the time?
eras un traidor y lo sigues siendo
Thank you!
cringe. People who SHARPs before are now the ones who support the unfettered invasion by third worlders.
race traitor
i was a Goth/Hippy in late 80s, walking with another Goth/Hippy dude we see 4 or 5 skinheads coming down the street, about 9pm, the smallest skinhead says to the leader "what about them?" hoping to get his violence fix for the evening.... the leader said "No, leave them, they look mellow"🤣i guess they wanted a fight that lasted longer than 20 seconds...
There's always nutters about, but generally if you go about fighting as a pastime it's a lot easier to fight people who also want to fight as they tend not to report you to the police as much. 😆
Got the post war immigration completely wrong. The Citizenship act that allowed commonwealth immigration happened in 1948, when the worst of the war damage was already sorted and the rest well underway. But the government never invited people to come from the commonwealth to rebuild. This is total nonsense, never happened.
Even the Empire Windrush ship carrying those first Caribbean immigrants, that happened because the ship owner wanted to make more money on his return voyage from taking cargo to the caribbean. When it arrived the government and local government scrambled trying to calm people down and work out what to do with the people who had arrived. They actually paid for a bunch of them to go straight back! As I said they weren't invited to rebuild, this is nonsense.
He seems to be simply regurgitating the mainstream media's account of the 60s and 70s. He clearly wasn't around back then, you can tell because just about everything he says sounds stupid to those of us who were around back then.
In 1948 the British Nationality Act gave people from colonies the right to live and work in Britain.
The government needed workers to help fill post-War labour shortages and rebuild the economy.
Caribbean countries were also struggling economically and job vacancies in the UK offered an opportunity.
Many of those who came became manual workers, drivers, cleaners, and nurses in the newly-established NHS.
Source: The BBC
@@KillerstingrayK-cm4pi the BBC is a Leftist toll. Never trust them.
@@KillerstingrayK-cm4pi BBC wishful thinking, there were not labour shortages in Britain at that time. Which is why the government was subsidising the passage of British people to move to Australia at this time.
There had been a brief post war labour shortage in 45-46, in the immediate struggle. This was solved by the demobbing of soldiers from Britain's wartime army, and helped to some extent by the placing of war time displaced people (basically Poles and some Baltic people who had served against Hitler with the Allies so had to flee here because Stalin would kill them).
The majority of Windrush migrants arrived during the 60s and 70s.
The labour fill scheme was actually established by the government of the Bahamas, then cooperated with by other Caribean governments because of their unemployment, and worries this would cause unrest. The London transport authority agreed to involvement in it because they were keen to get un unionised workers who would work for less.
Read this for some actual facts about what happened, including the government being panicked by the arrival of the Windrush. This article looks at actual facts and sources rather than BBC wishful thinking. www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-windrush-myth/
lol, bet you got your degree on the streets
People always think of skin heads be racists but not all skin head gangs are neo Nazis
All the rest are secretly gay😆😁
Or anarcho commie reds
No Real Skinhead is Racist Ever..your thinking of Boneheads = fake Skinheads
@@user-di7ww6pm3c😂😂 No such thing as Anarcho commies & Real Skinheads are Left Wing 100% not communists two totally different things Are you from usa
@@woody5831communists are left wings.
Was a Skinhead and proud to still be one. Close to 45 years of Dr. Martin's and Fred Perry's .
What's your number? 😁
@@dalethomas360 54 - 46 Was My Number 🙂😁😁😁
@@trojanska4538
Right now, someone else has that number 😁👍
Dr. Martin's and Fred Perry's , Dont forget the boot boys too,
My uncle was an original skin in the late 60’s, so you can imagine his horror when his son (my cousin) became the WRONG type of skin in the late 80’s
I was a skinhead at school in 1966 at 14 years old we were a crossover from the Mods who did wear parkas when riding their scooters.
We lasted about 8-10 years and wore made to measure tonic suits to go out to clubs at night ( I left school at 15 and got an apprenticeship) and wore jeans and Dr, martens to football. We all sort of grew out of it as we grew older, it was a teenage and early 20's thing for us. we lived just outside South West London my mum and dad were South Londoners like a lot of my mates parents.
Happy days going to Football on a saturday and Petticoat Lane and Brick Lane on a Sunday (my dad and his mate had a stall occasionally in Petticoat Lane when I was a kid) we and the Girls of the day were very smart and like the mods did dress up to go out we shared a love of reggae, Ska, bluebeat etc.and soul music with the West Indian boys there were skirmishes but not really to much about the racial aspects just different areas and young blokes getting into fights.
Sounds like real good fun!
American antiracist skinhead from the late 90s here - I would love to share a pint and some stories some time, mate.
@@NonnaPossum1312 Gayyyyy
Wow still bright as ever in your 70s! Keep going grandpa and it’s great to see a first hand experience, I always get weary about that period of time, but thanks for educating me‼️
A right of passage was going to Blacks to get your first pair of DMs
Youve gone from little parkour videos to these in depth, long videos. They're great, amazing work mate
Eyo I like those Parkour videos, they’re great.
The TikTok generation coming to show when they think 20mins is a long video
The editing is on point
Nah they aren't in depth. There are numerous mistake in his videos.
care to elaborate?@@hoti47
" England looked like the back oif a co-op after ww2" .. mate it still does
Yeah thats the good bits now lol
Possibly the most off-the-cuff dismissal of Enoch Powell's actual concerns and political motives. Dismal journalism, but I suppose we're all guilty of playing to the crowd to some degree.. enjoyed the rest.
Skinheads did not come from the Jamaican rude boy culture (although it certainly had it's influence around the south of England , mainly London from working class men & youth who flocked down south when work dried up in the north - bringing that look with them). Skinheads have been around a lot longer than the 1960's , the look came from shipping dock workers, factory workers, mine workers etc. from the north of the UK and Northern Ireland, they can be dated back to the 1940's and mostly the 1950's perhaps even much earlier. In those days whilst working in those environments heads were shaved to prevent lice (common back then) and the boots with turn - up trousers was done as not to get the bottom of the trousers soiled from the elements. Braces were worn as belts weren't common back then too. The term "skinhead" was not coined then but I'm certain some were called that for obvious reasons. Most were into all different kinds of music , in the 50's a lot were teddyboys who sure didn't like to have their heads shaved so the work uniform became a fashion statement on the streets & pubs to show people what they did for a living & were proud of it (or not proud of it for that matter) . Only much later on in the late 60's of the south of England the term "skinhead" was used for the obvious reasons & other fashions (like the rude boys) got mixed with it with the white younger generation who mingled with the Jamaican immigrants & liked their music - It was the media who exploited it. If you do a search , you will find very old photographs (mostly from the late 1950's and early 60's) of what later became known as skinheads. The subculture part of skinheads was fascinating as they were one of the only subcultures who didn't have their own music , only music from other subcultures in later years ( teddyboys, mods , rockers , punks etc etc). In places like Australia & New Zealand they had a similar subculture in the early 70's called Sharpies who mostly derived from UK immigrants but had their own music akin to punk rock but was a little earlier and the music had influences by bands like Slade & blues rock but grittier and nastier . The look was a mix of skinhead, bootboys & glam. Everthing has its origins & everything is connected. Oi music is often misunderstood as the music created by skinheads but that is not true either, Oi is just punk rock that got called that by a certain music journalist (whom I won't mention that worked for Sounds music magazine) who copped the term from various punk bands like Sham 69 and Cockney Rejects in particular who did a song called Oi Oi Oi (plus a lot of other bands of that era that I grew up with proudly indeed). As said, everything has it's origins & everything is connected.
Yeah, the guy is clueless. I'm under 5 mins in and the amount of inaccuracies is laughable
First adopted music of skinheads being skinhead reggae/Jamaican rock steady or well known as Trojan Reggae, Oi got mixed up during the 2nd wave years later along with 2 tone, most of the uniform coming from mod ivy league, anything before that wasn't anything to do with the subculture other than the hard mods whom created it.
Yep. You definitely have a way more accurate history than this video…. Thank you for setting the record straight.
I would have read more than the first few sentences if you'd only used paragraphs instead of a wall of text. Yeesh, man.
This used to be common knowledge until they started that narrative of jamaicans in the mod subculture had the look and early skins were part of that scene and later estranged from the mods and jamaicans. Mods were mostly snobs, but the scene was also a major point in the birth of youth subcultures. Not saying that there weren't any before it, most significant were the rockabilly scene that birthed the rockers/uk sleazers who were in to the hell's angels motorcycle stuff. The mod skins despised them (and mods generally) and at the end of the day the later skins of oi/hardcore weren't all too different from them. Many skins secretly liked The Stray Cats f.e
In 1981 I got a crew cut and when I came back home from the barber shop my mum opened the door and then slammed it in my face.
Ha! Same thing happened to my little brother, she then paid a visit to the barber - you could hear the screeching from a block away 😅
I was same but then i continued till this day lol
Yes parents rarely understand the younger generation, but Skinheads are generally misunderstood 😮
18:18 The way that guy said "the four skins" was so professional. 🤣🤣🤣
..WE ARE SKINHEADS N WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!!!!!😡
yeah!yeah!yeah!yeah!YEAH!yeah!yeah!yeah!
Go back on the streets and save UK from these so called asylum seekers !
This was actually very eye opening, and a fantastic upload. I have always been curious - because when I was growing up our local skinheads were just punk and hardcore music fans that were anti racists - SHARPs.
10/10 upload Jimmy, truly riveting
still alive today!! SHARPs make up the majority of skins i’ve met
@@buck333you mean blood traitors?
You from PDX?
@@buck333 oh you mean blood traitors?
Did you ever happen to pass through Lansing, MI around 2011/2012? Your pfp looks a lot like my ex's (RIP) friend and you even share the same name/spelling. The skins I've met in PDX are mostly SHARPS... until you peep the Skrewdriver patch
the blurring of the swastika had me dying, I'm assuming it was for algorithm purposes but still I was imagining jimmy like "they'll never know what it is thank god I protected them"
Probably not, swastika is a forbidden symbol in europe, we're not allowed to show it, and we all know why.
Im 57 and i remember if you were a skinhead, rude boy , mod , new wave , 2Tone , Rockabillies , we all loved the music , the parties , our Saturdays was meet up at the barbers 12 ish , go to Luscombs shoe shop for D.M boots , Pie and Mash after , then to Woolworths to buy Madness The Specials The Beat The Jam Northern Soul and loads of other great records , the markets for clothes Petticoat Lane for Sheepskin coats and gold , i still see all my old friends from back then ,some sadly not with us , we all hold each other with the same respect as we did 45years ago , we were too young to be political , the older right wing extremists were a minority
Forgot soul boys
@@Canuckhardtail That if I remember took off BIG in 1982 , That year was musically like the 1970s a bit of everything in the charts
You forgot SOULBOYS mate ;)
@@mariegilmartin8827 I was an Oi! Punk in the 80s (and in the USA to boot), I just didn't want those boys to be forgotten; they had STYLE... cardigans, wifebeaters, pegged Levis, boxing boots and watch caps... walking yard sales as you say. Cheers.
As a young skinhead I find talking to people about the history helps lift the blinders on some people. It’s all about the music, family, working hard, and appreciation of culture.
As a former raver I'm really looking forward to your next video telling me what we did back then.
Genuinely can't remember 😂
Sounds like you did it correctly then 😂
@@JimmyTheGiant indeed 😂
try and squeeze in a sample of DJ Vibez, Motorway Madness if you can please 🙏... Good times
@@JimmyTheGiant there's a channel dedicated to Club Kinetic at the Pleasure Dome in Stoke On Trent, with lots of old footage if it comes in useful for your research.
We used to pile into a minibus and travel up from Brum a couple of times a month. 😂
My main recollection is that it all felt VERY, VERY nice.🙂
🤣😱😃😁🙄😭😁🤣😭
I was a kid during the 2 tone era, had the black Harrington, grey sta press, Fred Perry, white socks and maroon tassel loafers. It was such a contrast to the mutton chops and brown flares we saw literally all around us. The multicultural aspect was key, it meant you were as likely to be listening to Demond Dekker or Burning Spear as you were The Jam or The Beat. But just as the suedehead and rude boy aesthetic got appropriated and the very distinct division got deliberately blurred by a media that has never kept pace with the speed of change in youth movements, so we too got lumped in with football casual terrace hooliganism and all the race hatred that was going on there at the time. I think that whole style is timelessly cool and I know many youngsters today agree, but it does come with a lot of potential social baggage that it has never deserved.
Yes, I was probably one of those mutton chopped long haired men around you at the time which by your letter, I'm assuming you were a Skinhead in the 1980's😮
I was One of the Original Skinheads from 1969/70 but remember by 1971/2 it was over and Glam rock had come in although I Never had mutton chops, I had long hair then..
We went from Skinheads/Boot boys to suedeheads then onto Glam rock from 1972 until 1975 when it more or less ended when the Anti-music of the Sex pistols came in 😮
But I loved it when the Skinheads re-emerged in the 1980's because I really hated the punks who were trying to say they were Anarchists, but we're nothing of the sort...Skinheads embodied the real Anarchy not punks 😮
@@johnsalvidge4131Suedeheads and then Smoothies. Longer hair.
I was 2nd year at high school when black sta press and black Doc shoes was the style to wear to school, a couple of years later flight jackets were also popular, I had all 3 by '84. There were alot of Mods and Ska fans going about and I was starting to get into metal.
Absolutely spot on and very well researched! Great watch and thank you
that was awesome! As an old bloke now who saw all this happening from a distance in Australia you've just educated me on a lot of stuff I didn't understand. What an interesting story.
I love my skin head, no worrying about hair styles and my beanie hat sticks like velcro 😂
the "this is England" series (there's several) is such an undervalued body of work that still gives me goosebumps & tears to my eyes when I think back on it and I'm not even from Britain! It really moved me at the time I first saw it on the sundance channel or something like that...
its just political bullshit
yeah, def. not 'glorifying' it...
TIE 1990 is sad af.
The original film is the best
GREAT movie, but the series is so gripping and sad, i still can't finish it. it's too depressing
The movie is good but then he just kept going and going
Wow!!! This was a revelation. So much I didn't know about this subject before. Thanks.
How could the British government simultaneously ask Jamaicans to come to the country and also have no idea they were coming until they were almost here? 90 seconds in and I already know not to waste my time with the rest of the video.
The government of Britain never asked for people from Jamaica to come to the UK the Labour government at the time did not want him to come and there was hopes they would go home very quickly cause they wouldn't like the weather. I don't know how this myth developed, it's certainly not true.
cus multicultural braintraining tells young people not to think critically and just accept the narrative.
It's because it's part of the kalergi plan plain and simple.
I heard it was the Govt of Jamaica who, having an excess population, asked the UK to take some on. Coincidentally, in the 1950's (just after the War) Public Transport was not attracting new staff. In London, at least, we suddenly saw many West Indies workers on the Tube and buses. The migrants were also considered useful for not having any particular interest in Trade Unionism. Therefore, less strikes - in theory, anyway.
I'm really glad you did this. In America it's always ridiculous trying to explain skinhead origins and no one has ever believed me even though it's common knowledge to Brits.
Yeah it seems most people here heard about them because of movies like American history x
Seriously it gets old after a while lol. Like bro we side with s.h.a.r.p. 's not boneheads . Sit down and listen for a history lesson or look into it.
According to Lars Frederiksen from Rancid, US Skinhead had home in early days in Hardcore Punk scene. Here good example is NYHC scene.
@@mrnordyk1125 oh yeah, I mean there's definitely American skinheads. Still. Up here in Portland (in every major city im sure) they're full on organized and it confuses the hell out of anyone not familiar with the scene. But never was as widespread a phenomenon as it was in the UK.
I literally tried to explain this to an ignorant coworker and they didn’t care to listen they basically said well here in America blah blah blah it’s like everything revolves around what America thinks no matter the history. I was so annoyed because it has such a rich history and isn’t racist like everyone thinks
I was adopted by my grandad who was unapologetically a skinhead. I really wish I got to experience the skin heads mods and 2-tone era. This is honestly my favourite era of England before my time 🏴
I was a 1979/1980 Mod Revival mod, thoroughly into not only The Who & The Jam etc, but also Two-Tone and Ska. I still have my old parka! Incidentally, a lot of info on this video is rubbish.
@@Cameraman61 Please do enlighten us I actually want to know
For one, there was no invitation to the colonies to come to Britain
@@Cameraman61 Thank you! I’m amazed by all these people who have apparently no clue that a retro “revival” of a thing is not the thing. Revivals are interesting in their own right - but to see the Specials - Coventry teenagers of the late 70s/early 80s - depicted as if they were part of the ska scene in 1950s Jamaica is just…illiterate.
@@bebopdedop8776 The video smooshes together things from 1950s and early 60s Jamaica, like ska and twotone and conflates it with a “revival” by English teenagers of the late 1970s and 1980s. A “revival” is LARPing, basically. It’s kids growing up in a very different world, imaginatively re-enacting what their friends’ cooler parents, an earlier generation, looked and sounded like.
I went to Specials concerts - they were very good - but nobody imagined Terry & Neville penned “A Message To You Rudy”, or that Madness or Bad Manners were referencing 1940s schooldays in the West Indies.
The next week, we would be in the same place with the Stranglers, Souixie and the Banshees, or The Tourists.
Just discovered this channel. Your level of research and breadth of archive material is outstanding. Love it. Going to devour all of your videos like a Pret Meatball Wrap.
Glad I found your channel. Well presented mate. Cheers.
Your analysis of subcultures dynamics really makes me see the world differently. Would happily listen to a full sociology course made by you - thank you!
You sound every bit as clueless about this topic as he does🙈ffs!
Good god it’s the blind leading the blind.
@spencerdodds2207
Definitely looks that way' and you can be sure neither were skins😂
Excellent for the algo. They wanna play games out here. So....
My dad was born in the 60s and was a proper skinhead and he always talked to me about scar, rocksteady, bob marley and many other reggae artists. Even till this day he is super passionate about it and has pretty much the same hairstyle....but thats also mainly because he had a receding hairline from young also. Even all his mates i've met are either super skinheads or jamaican whenever dad takes me to the pub from young to nowadays. All lovely and down to earth. SHARPS also made up a huge amount of skinhead and anti racist culture in the uk also and mixed with the reggae OG skinheads perfectly also. Both anti racist. The only difference is that the SHARPS skinheads loved punk and harcore music more.
Old American SHARP here, your dad sounds rad as fuck
It's so sad how worried we (brown Asians) were about skinheads. It's awfully inconvenient that the nicest antiracist lot looked the same as the neo nazi ones that would harass us. The scumbags set fire to my grandparents home with gasoline through the mailbox :(
It's SKA mate not scar!
@@forty-two7298Yeah that. I've misremembered bits and pieces my dad has told me.
Greetings from Germany. About 4 years ago me and my best friend were waiting at a tram station for another friend and we sat down on the bench that was there, roght beside a odd looking man. Me and my friend were talking about my shoes and how to fix them cuz they were kinda ripped open due to a condition called 'no-fricking-idea-why'. And then the man started to give us advice on how to repair them. We started to talk and he told us he that he is a Skinhead, showed us his Baton and Brass Knuckles and assured us that he uses it only if he is threatened. Me and my friend got curious because meeting and casually talking to a Skinhead in Germany is a pretty rare occassion.😅
So he explained to us that they are neither fascist nor nazistic, they were just your standart middle class worker. He said that there are some radical creeps but they are like their own like sectist like groups. Then the tram came, he wished us best of luck in life and went home. We were baffled, as we expected to get some racial comments from him against Arabs, Africans or even Slavics. But nothing from that came. He said that they appreciated everybody that lives their live well. Since then my view of them changed, you just have to meet people and talk to them. Then decide what you think. 😁🤝
yeah even most "racist" people are really only against the criminal elements, and might connect cultural shortcomings that leads to more elements coming from a certain group or race, if you take the time to talk to them. not like this totally shallow documentation
They used to be a major subculture all the way up until the early 2010s in the balkans, now they're rarely seen and usually their aesthetic had been adopted by punkers and metalheads
When i was little i was first exposed to skinheads because of films like American history x. And i always thought skinheads were just synonymous with far right extreme politics. And then when i saw this is england i found out that skinheads didn't start in America. And that the original skinheads weren't racist to begin with. Its a shame now it will probably will never shake that association
If you think the original skins weren't 'racist', I'd suggest looking into how many of them felt about the Pakistani population of Britain. Things aren't black and white like we all like to believe.
It makes life easier. You don't worry about how your hair is looking, easier/quicker to wash and dry. No money spent on following the latest hair trends. Its great, if people want to label you for how your hair or lack of it looks then i honestly dont have time for them.
That's called being poor
@@Chernochegger what is?
@sambranton3346 not caring about your appearance, since in thwir social stratum it doesn't matter
I know plenty of rich people who dress like slobs Skins poor or not dress well
I was a Skinhead in the Early 1970's and although violence was a part of the movement it was mainly about the music 🎵 and the fashion then, I believe people misunderstand Skinheads as brainless thugs but we certainly weren't as the original Skinheads were not about that, it only got worse when the 1980's Skinheads
came out but I feel that was a reaction to the punks as one little Skinhead said, 'this is real Anarchy Johnny', refering to Johnny rotten and the Sex pistols...😅
That's my theory anyway, I later became a boot boy and then suedehead...then Glam rock came in and we became Glam rockers...to me the Original skinheads were the best😊
We are skinheads and we still on the go
06:19 The first Hells Angels chapter in the United Kingdom was founded in London on 30 July 1969. The HAMC has established seventeen chapters in England, with membership based primarily around the London, Manchester, Liverpool, Essex, Kent, Sussex and Tyne and Wear areas. Britain's Most FEARED Subculture H.A.
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"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
truly a thinking man 🤣
Knew a kid who was a hold-out classic skinhead in the 21st century, always with the shaved head rocking them red martens and suspenders all the time. Not racist at all. Still, always super uncomfortable to be out in public hanging out as 100% of everyone you'd walk passed obv thought you where out fraternizing with your like-minded national socialist buddy.
Cept when we where fortunate enough to have one of our black friends along and you'd just see that hourglass icon spin above their heads in the looks they'd passed us.
I still have a skinhead! Shave it myself once a week. Saved me a fortune on barbers fee's.
England was destroyed after WW2?! Bro... The suffering and destruction in England was nothing compared with what they had to endure in Germany, the USSR, or even France.
Been there, done that. As a "real" skinhead who listened to SKA, I got into a lot of fights. Neo-Nazis, Marxists, Teddies, Home Boye's, Rockers and Migrants all wanted a piece of the pie and I was more than willing to give.
Those were wild times and almost every weekend I was in the hospital getting myself or one of my colleagues patched up.
how did you ended up now?
@@azteka6103 I became a christian and husband of a loving wife and a father of two wonderful children. My old path would have gotten me killed sooner or later or jail time. I sometimes still struggle with anger, but its getting better.
Trojan Records real skinhead music 69
Thanks for explaining this.
Imagine DECIDING to move to someplace with such miserable weather. AND it's just been destroyed by a war? What the hell? I guess young men are adventurous.
you forgot that there were very little opportunities to work and make money in jamaica for working class boys. they went to england to make enough money to take back to their home countries and buy farms in their villages but most of them never ended up returning for a lot of reasons
Dude I have a neighbor thats a gem of a human that people always assume is a nazi because of skin heads. He's a U.S marine that was in the worst areas of the Iraq war. Never talks about it but I know it was bad. Doesn't have a Racist bone in his body. He was losing his hair bad. Hes also a jacked white dude. We have kids the same age and share a drive way so I know this guy well and have been with him camping Amusement parks kids sports games. And people complain about how this poor guy looks and react with fear instead of just getting to know him and being like oh this guy's great. Random and to long of a comment but Im laughing because I get it now. Keep up the great work 👍
Is this in America? I'd think, in America, people would assume that a jacked white dude with little to no hair is a soldier, not a skinhead. Just curious.
@@frustrateduser9933I think it’s lessened over the years, but there is definitely a stereotype here in the US that if a white man shaves his head, especially with a razor blade, that he’s a racist skinhead, more so if he is large, physically imposing, or has tattoos. I’m a white man that shaves his head due to going bald and has a few visible tattoos from my time in the Army, and I’ve gotten a few looks of uneasiness from people, but I’ve never had a bad interaction with anyone. I think your demeanor and appearance mean more than your hairstyle (or lack thereof).
@@frustrateduser9933you must be living under a rock... Yankland is the most anti wyt country in the west in general, why would you think they wouldn't react negatively to a jacked white guy with a shaved head after being conditioned and taught for decades that all white people are racist?...
What's kind of funny is if you describe the classic skinhead look (short hair/shaved head, doc marten boots, jeans) you're basically describing modern lesbian fashion lol. Also I think the bit about the mods is a bit understated, the reason why mods got into a lot of fights is because they had a rival subculture, the rockers. Gangs of mods and rockers would get into huge clashes in the 60s, and it actually predates modern football hooliganism (modern as in starting around the 70s). What's interesting is the rockers actually calmed down and became the first hippy groups in the UK, so the two have always sort of stayed as the opposite side of the other, the more aggressive the mod/skinhead side got, the more chill the rocker/hippy side became, but also became more disorganised.
There was the "Mods and Rockers" thing going on. But that's not the only reason Mods got into fights. Mods would fight other Mods as well. Essentially, working class British youths have always fought each other as a past time, predating the emergence of youth subcultures. It's just having two rival subcultures was an extra excuse to do so.
There was a period of time where there was a lot of gay skinheads, after the appropriation by the far right there was a part of the gay community that decided to reappropriate the style in their own way. An interesting part of the subcutures history that gets ignored; Nicky Craine (THE national front poster boy) ended up coming out before passing. There is a lot of the skinhead style that have found their way in todays subculture. Skinhead changed the way subculture looks in the UK in my opinion
The 2nd skinhead wave that came from oi!/punk (79/80) had more in common with rockers than mods. Punks hated mods anyway, even had songs about them.
Also early 80's psychobilly started as a mix of punk/skin/rock-a-billy.
The so-called clashes between Mods and Rockers was grossly exaggerated. The Media hyped it as usual, looking for sensational headlines for their Rags. Fact is there was mostly friendly rivalry between Mods and Rockers. England/ Britain at that time was fairly law abiding and peacefull. I was born in 1960. My two teenages sisters were Mods. Drugs were unknown, and fights in Night clubs and pubs were not that common. Yes there were a few clashes at sea side resorts on bank holidays between Mods and Rockers, but it was hyped off the scale by reporters. There was even evidence that journalists gave money to young dudes to get them to start violence. So journalists could get the pictures they wanted. It was hyped! Around 1968-69 Football hooliganism was getting more prevelent, the emerging Skinhead scene fitting right into it. Thats when violence stsrted to esculate in England. Specially at football games. Im English iv studied the social history of Britain. Know it chapter and verse. Ps, I've been a Cool dapper Skinhead since 1978.
@@Occident. Fascinating. With your in-depth knowledge of British social history could you furnish us with statistics or evidence to back up your assertion that violence was rare before the seventies, it's for a project I'm doing
Great video, cheers bro.
I love this guy's style of narrative, I've subbed!😊
Discord Mods, Reddit Mods yall not ready for English Mods
Underrated comment there, but I bet most people wouldnt have a clue.
“On the Streets” is a great song by the 4sKins. So good in fact Nirvana copied the entire song structure for a song on the album Nevermind.
And UK Subs covered Stay Away on Smells Like Bleach: A Punk Tribute To Nirvana
They did good job
And the album is 🤘
I still can't take that name seriously 🤣
@@HadeTheReal 4 band members, all skins, what's funny about that 🤔
@@terryyakamoto3488 if you know you know
@@terryyakamoto3488foreskins. Actually a lot of people didn't get the joke for decades. Imagine being this stupid 🧐
You'll always be a skinhead, my now "normal" look is just a disguise! OiOi!
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One thing that got missed in this is the working class kids in the 60's sported boots and short hard etc. because of military service. The look grew out of a reaction to hippies, hanging on to military style, as well as taking some mod clothing choices.
American History X did a really great job at showing how the racist skinheads of that era really were aligned with and exploited by far right political groups. That was such an excellent movie.
As a first generation Jamaican American, I’m terribly conflicted by the extreme sexual attraction I feel for Edward Norton’s character. Good gravy, that man was _foine._ 🥵
Speaking as somebody born in 1980, I would need to hear feedback from the boomers and elder generation X to know if this documentary is historically accurate but either way I appreciate your efforts to educate new generations on the late 20th century underground music scenes and have passed this on to my mum who was a skinhead in the 1970s and introduced me to reggae as I was learning to walk. I've loved bass music ever since. Thanks for a great piece! Peace! ❤
not all legit as he never mentioned the transition of the hard mods who later became known as the skinheads, plus the subculture grew not died, being a scooter skin will tell you scooter rallies are full of skins.
This is a video made about showing himself in a glowing light for his chums and lecturers. And potential sexual partners.
They're not the culture Western natives should have a problem with.
Europeans saying the British did something the Europeans did.
Yeah this s***'s just about sewing division.
Enlighten us Heir Flich...
its still very much alive and kicking ,the thing about this type of culture is it never leaves your soul once you are hooked,theres at least 2 or three pubs by me who regularly have ska/skinhead nights , as well as local singers doing the rounds in the pubs performing cover versions of 70"s reggae classics,i got hooked in 1979 and even now when i hear a blast from my past my heart still skips a beat with exitement ,what a time and what fantastic music
today it's mostley the boneheads
Very interesting video. Well done.
[00:00:00]1 Introduction to the video sponsored by Squarespace.
[00:00:04]2 Discussion on the skinhead haircut and its association with Britain’s feared subculture in the 60s to late 80s.
[00:00:45]3 The surprising Jamaican influence on the skinhead movement.
[00:00:52]4 Post-WWII England’s condition and the invitation to Jamaicans to rebuild the country.
[00:01:31]5 The emergence of the rude boy subculture in Jamaica and its fashion influences.
[00:01:52]6 The intersection of rude boys with the English mod subculture.
[00:02:37]7 The split within the mods leading to the birth of the skinhead style.
[00:03:32]8 Skinheads as a rebellion against the hippie movement.
[00:04:06]9 The significance of music in the skinhead culture, particularly the anthem “Skinhead Moonstomp.”
[00:06:18]10 The public’s perception of skinheads and their association with football hooliganism.
[00:07:58]11 The rise in violent crime and the media’s portrayal of skinheads.
[00:09:43]12 The National Front’s exploitation of the skinhead movement for their racist agenda.
[00:13:10]13 The second wave of skinheads influenced by punk music and the emergence of oi music.
[00:16:57]14 Rock Against Racism’s response to the rising far-right movement and its impact on the skinhead subculture.
[00:18:17]15 The decline of the skinhead movement and its adoption by extreme right movements worldwide.
[00:21:03]16 The lasting negative image of skinheads and the difficulty in dissociating from extreme racism.
[00:23:39]17 The transition from skinheads to the rave culture of the 90s.
In 2024, I reckon that 'Little Billy' has developed strong feelings towards the current immigration situation. 😂
yep right from the get go i noticed this guys extreme leftist
@@kenopsia6748 How plain can I make this, the right is not interested in lowering immigration, it is interested in keeping wages low by bringing in immigrants. It lies and tells you it is anti-immigrant but history shows that the right will bring in migrants when the economy needs it. See 1950's Britain, 2022 Britain, Nazi Germany and its millions of migrant workers. What happened to Trump's wall ???
@@kenopsia6748im not british but it’s crazy to think that there are people that still don’t see anything wrong with the situation going there
i agree brother, and im not british either. @@Hoodpartisan
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Great video mate
Hippies are now the guys throwing paint at old paintings sitting in front of ambulances.
skins are now the new hippies according to all these bs docos and woke pc skins online
Those are not hippies. I don't like hippies, but they had way more class than those morons.
Leftists
They aren't hippies at all.
And Antifa were always the guys consigning people to Gulags in Siberia.
I would instantly take these guys back as opposed to who’s there now.
That's the thing. There's a fairly recent British fim about these guys. It's more or less about the current movement. Can't remember the name of the film now. Essentially, in the film some white skinheads turned on their Black friend, over a White girl, and the beat the Black guy to death🌝
- @@ReshonBryant- sounds like "this is England". Set in the 80s/90s.
@@ReshonBryantThat's This Is England. Dude used scenes and the title card in this video.
@@olliegoria I'm a German bro. Not sure why you would differentiate English skinheads when this issue is white males.
@@ReshonBryant I was just telling you the name of the movie. It's meant to tell the story of the skinhead movement and how it was corrupted by white nationalism. You described its plot to a tee.
awesome research
As an American it's so goofy to me the things that British people think is tough and their style is so funny
Gary Bushell is the guy who coined the term “Oi” for that genre of music. He did that when he was writing for Sounds magazine.
The voice of Oi is calling you , with a message that is true
The White guilt is strong on this one.
Is he even White? Looks like he's at least partly Iranian. I'm sure he celebrates the cultural decay all the same.
cope
@@yeeyeehaircut796 Cope with what? Not hating myself🤣
....agreed, ...this is the usual politically correct version of skin heads.. ...it's ridiculous.
@@yeeyeehaircut796 lol cry
I knew bits and pieces of this, but finally someone put it in a proper context and told the story properly.
I appreciate this.
As a gay guy who knows about some of the ridiculousness in some of Jamaica's music & sub-cultures, I had that as a top 3 actually.
*YES! You showed still shot from ‘ROMPER STOMPER’* @12:04 - probably my favorite skinhead movie after ‘American History X’. For those who haven’t seen it, it stars a very young Russell Crowe and is a low-budget gem
Brilliant Film time to pull on the boots!
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"We came to wreck everything and ruin your life. God sent us."
Watch ID. Disturbingly brilliant.
Hondo....
Poor Davey.. hahaha...
It's on VHS copy here in this room..
How to say you know nothing about skinheads without saying you know nothing about skinheads
how
@@samthomson3394 by making a video like that
Bang on mate, the geezer virtually showed where he got is information from, Wikipedia and the guardian, it's laughable
I think his daddy or grandaddy was a skinhead and he's trying to paint them as al lovable group of rogues who just liked to
"wear clothes and dance to music." What a joke!
I remember when London was London and not a stab hole.
at least were not racist am i right?
G'day to you! I was a Skinhead in the early 70s here in Perth West Australia, not once did I see any Racism, 50 years later I still love Ska and Reggae! PS I still have my 1/4 inch white Braces!
I like that you're giving American audiences a look at the "channel 5" style of documentary presentation 👌🏼 😂
it actually dawned upon me that i haven't heard the term "skinhead" since i was a child; around the early to mid 90's. there was a lot of propganda around that "the skinheads were going to take over". im across the globe in the PNW and always wore my hair low down to 1 but i definitely remember getting some comments that "i looked like a skinhead" back then. i had no idea they started out the complete opposite of what they eventually became synonymous with. crazy.
My Dad was a mod & my grandparent's neighbours were some of the first Jamaicans to move here. I still listen to SKA & Soul to this very day. Reminds me of my childhood. Fond memories. Thank you for sharing this
So this is why Bad Man would call Niko a "Rude boy"
In Thailand when I go to a barber and ask for a skinhead cut, they know exactly what it is
My dad was a skinhead. He was in one of the first skinhead bands in the United States.
What band was he in?
what band??
What i can recall as a kid in London skinheads would chase you on sight if they were in a gang 😨 scary times ..
Very enjoyable thank you
My dad was in a punk band in the 70's, who'd actually been a support act for the Ramones. He has an old electric guitar to this day which he claims may have *killed a skinhead* at one show. A whole crowd of skinheads rushed the stage while they were playing, and my dad clocked one guy in the head with his guitar. The skinhead dropped to the ground off the edge of the stage, and the band all made a run for it. He grew up in a council estate in chelmsford and was very involved in punk, and has lots of crazy stories about life back then.
Wow your dad murdered a teenage skinhead and got away wit it...bet your so proud of your da 🤔
@@KramerMC5 love the surprisingly wholesome bromance in your story mate
I have a memory of a cultural moment that doesn't seem to have been caught on film.
Literally thousands of skinheads at the old Shed End at Stamford Bridge singing ' Knees up Mother Brown ' .. incredible sight . ✌️🇬🇧.
Working class punk will always be raw because this is real shit lol people from different walks of life, taces, etc,...share a common bond.
As a Jamaican, I did NOT expect this educational moment on the background of my country! Always interesting seeing takes from different perspectives
It should be noted that many fans of Industrial music were also accused of being neonazi skinheads, due to their love of combat boots, army surplus clothing, and usually short haircuts. This silly though, because your average rivethead was usually kinda nerdy and often gay or bisexual
And yes, now that I've subbed, *YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO A VIDEO ON THE RIVETHEAD SUBCULTURE!* the machine demands it!
Being a bit of a rivet head myself, I'd like to see that video.
I was always into Punk, Goth, and especially metal, but I had a strange love for Techno... which led me to Industrial, Aggrotech, and EBM.
Yes...
The people of England certainly have not been displaced or lost their culture.
I hope he wouldn't forget that it came from Industrial records.
I was a rivethead back in the 2000's. Those were the days!
Another video where you talk crap. This is why books and documentaries that were made at the time are important.
sucks when history is distorted right? reap and sow
Lots of out of date videos, for the time he was talking about.
The Spirit of '69,, aka the skinhead Bible by George Marshall is what I read when I was introduced to boots and braces.
The guy itself looks more like from imigrant family and puts very lefty clishe to the whole subculture😢
Looking at the endless chain of british subcultures, its clearly apparent that there's something basic human need that the british society, the capitalist structure or the culture cannot fulfil and people keep looking for something that they miss.