The United States vs. the WW2 Volcano
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For a brief period in March of 1944, the greatest force facing off against the Americans in Italy during WWII was not that of the Axis Powers, but rather, that of Mother Nature herself. As the Mount Vesuvius roared to life in the middle of the Allied push through Southern Europe, a New York Times writer described the volcano as sounding “exactly like artillery fire.” And against nearby two American airfields, it would prove even more devastating than the Luftwaffe...
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"drinking coffee by lowering an urn into the lava crust" possibly one of the most badass things I've ever heard
One of my shipmates, when taking a tour to Mount Aetna when we pulled in to Augusta Bay in '06, decided to light a cigarette on a lava rock. He said he wound up coughing his lungs up because of the sulfur content.
How about, "lowering a pair of eyeglasses into the pool of a light-water nuclear reactor on a string so the lenses turned purple, to make prescription sunglasses" . . . ?
They couldn't have been made out of aluminium, which is what I'd expect them to be made from.
Aluminium melts at 660.3°C / 1220.54°f
Lava is typically between 700 - 1200°C / 1292 - 2192°f
Of course they could have been made from stainless steel - can't find a source to say either way.
Ian Macfarlane what about enameled steel if it was used in the military that is.
@@SquishyZoran Interesting call, but I doubt that the enamelling could take that kind of temperature.
I'm pretty sure that enamelled ironware, (le Cruset for instance) could take temperatures beyond 300°C / 572°f, but I don't know about whether it could take the temperatures found in lava flows.
The other problem, (as far as I could tell, although I'm not an expert) would be weight - enamelled cast iron is incredibly heavy, making it unsuitable for military uses, (in the field) while enamelled steel tends to be a lot lighter, but very thin, so I'd imagine that buckling/distortion would occur at those temperatures.
I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I simply can't see urns being placed into lava to make coffee - sounds like a military tall tale.
I'd imagine that there's a grain of truth somewhere - perhaps the urns were placed near the lava, on rock, dirt, or even cooled lava itself, but I can't see it happening as described.
How would they even handle the urns? They'd be taking unnecessary risks - exactly what commanding officers don't want.
As a trained Geologist, when I see that, my advise is RUN. I worked around Mt St. Helens in the 1980s. Things can go downhill fast
was at St.Helens shortly before the 2004 eruption event. The devastation from the 1980s eruption was impressive even 20 years after the fact.
Have to learn to "go with the flow" 📉 😎 📈
The real truck is to leave about 1 hour early to avoid traffic .
Mainly lava, trees, a lot of rock and ash
Hmmm, too fast to run for some. In my country they were running tourist parties to an active volcano (White Island). It belched, they ran, some died and the surviving tourists and guides were blinded by the acidic gases released.
German Wunderwaffe division:
So we heard there’s an active volcano near the Americans...
I'll bet that was awesome like he said, pretty cool.
Army: civilians here, it must be safe. Civilians: army here, it must be safe.
Man, you have no idea how true that thinking is. On both ends 😂
Lmao
FACTS
Oblivious axis soldier; the army is here, civilians are here, [chuckles] something is wrong, I can feel it.
Volcano: lava is here... it must be safe
Liquid magma: tectonic plates are here, it must be safe
Tectonic plates: ungrounded tunnels built by reptilian people are here, it must be safe
Reptilian people: Hillary Clinton is still alive, we are safe....
If this happened in a book that "oh it just so happens that the point where there was fighting on the Italian peninsular for the first time in over a century, this volcano happens to erupt just as the fighting is near" the author would be called a hack for coming up with such a contrived coincidence. But reality has the advantage over fiction as fiction has to be plausible.
And "reality" sometimes (or often) is not at all plausible!
I wonder, couple of thousand years from now, if they will laugh at this legendary story, as we do, to many of our ancestors stories, of a similar kind, where some sort of natural disaster, occurs at precisely the moment it needs to, in order to save some civilization from a massive overwhelming invasion force. (Greeks-Atlantis)(Japan-Tsunami)
Treblaine The truth is stranger than fiction!
Reality is usually stranger than fiction.
Secret Nazi Geomancer commandos?
My dad was a UK tank commander and has photos of climbing Vesuvius before the eruption and visiting Pompeii. His regiment pressed on to Anzio and Rome.
After visiting Italy twice, I can only imagine it in Roman times & then in WW2 being war zones
Who would win?
The mightiest airforce ever constructed by mankind
vs
a pile of toasty rocks
The mightiest air force vs The Planet
@@brandonhallam51 Amen Bro!
When I was in Hawaii, Big Island (circa 1979), Mauna Loa started kicking It UP and will never forget it.
Mother Earth
"How many airplanes do you want, Mr. President?" "Yes."
"How many hot rocks do you want, Mother Gaea?" "Yes."
Allies: WHY DOES EVERYTHING AROUND YOU ALWAYS END UP EXPLODING!?!?
US: Because freedom.
That mountain has its rights, we cant make it not explode
MURICA!!!
fu** yea
HOOAH!
@Ben Siener Thats a fact
LOL
son, that is HOW freedom works.
You see grandson, the only reason we get to enjoy our freedom is because we ain't afraid to kill other folks whenever, however,
or, for whatever reason our government says we HAVE TO. Matter-a-fact.. let us pledge our allegiance to our killin' government right now... whurs our flag.
My Mother was a Lt. In the US Army Nurse Corps in Naples at the time I recall her speaking of the spectacular night time eruptions and lava flows of Vesuvius.
Matter of fact, I think you should do an episode on Axis Sally. I’ve heard numerous tales about her but nothing about her history.
She was your mom.
I second this.
I have heard of Tokyo Rose but not Axis Sally. I wonder if there were any anti-German or anti-Japanese propaganda radio operators who broadcast to Germany and Japan in retaliation.
Berlin Betty was on Hogan's Heroes.
There were actually two Axis Sallys. The other was Rita Zucca (an Italian -American who had renounced her US citizenship). Zucca broadcast out of Milan in 1944 and may have been the Axis Sally in this video, not Gillars.
I'm a huge history buff but I never knew that the eruption was so devastating to the military. I knew it happened but that about it.
Same. I heard about the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius taking place during WWII, but not much about what came about from it.
Yeah, I don't think the Army was proud of it's f-ups. Building a base next to an active volcano 🌋
The view from the Caldera is stunning. Also, Vampire/Wizard/Sith Lord/Spy/International Playboy/and RAF Pilot Christopher Lee climbed Vesuvius a few days before it erupted that spring. It hasn’t erupted since.
In regards to WW2, I think you should do a video on the US airbase known as Y-29 and its role in the battle of the bulge. It’s an amazing story and one that’s often overlookedz
He has a new channel called Dark Skies.
“Aww screw it just Nuke it”
“But-
“I said NUKE it”
Seems strange that they didn't decide to fly all the aircraft to another base when the volcano started to erupt. They're valuable and very portable assets.
Military intelligence. If "they" paid for them out of their pockets... they would have.
To which airfield would you have gotten them to?
Once the eruption started the gasses and turbulence in the air was a death flight. You're underestimating the power of such an eruption
Those planes had little or no air filters. They probably would not make it down the runway. Or fall from the sky after a mile. and, the visibility would have been near zero.
If the leadership had allowed earlier evacuation that would have made sense. The issues though is the weather a eruption produces grounds planes even today.
Essentially if this happened today the planes would be left behind as well because of how dangerous flying in the plume of ash from a vulcano is. Even flying close to the collum is full of issues turbulence and lighting strikes. Getting the men out best they could likely have done when they decided to leave.
The command structure learned many lessons from this............lets build an Air Force Base next to Mt. Pinitabu
true
Pinatubu was 40 miles away.
@@kkarllwt lmao, try 12 miles. Not hard to look it up on google maps. Took 30 seconds!
@@scotchsoda3165 Fort Stotsenberg (Clark Airbase) was formed in 1903. At that time the US military planners did not know that Pinatubo was an active volcano. In fact, it was only in 1983 when geologist definitely proved that Pinatubo is an active volcano and a real explosive one at that.
The U.S. Naval Base Subic Bay was nearby, too, and was a massive base and major repair facility. I'm sure your comment is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but essentially everyone knows that Pinatubo was almost completely unexpected. It probably hadn't been a known volcano for more than 20 years, and its most recent eruption was 400+ years prior. I know a little bit about it... I was there for the eruption. I was erupted upon. I helped evacuate Clark. I saw T-shirts that said, "I survived the volcano-earthquake-typhoon of 1991" or something like that, being sold in Olongopo City." Utter devastation.
i remember learning about this from "call of duty : big red 1"
which i feel still was the best COD single player..... as it followed ONE squad (and they even grew beards over time)
and people actually died..... i still almost come to tears over brooklin's death (i told ya sarg.... im from the bronx!!)
big red one is the only COD game to have the invasions of north africa and italy
and again..... the story was amazing
When the volcano causes more damage to your airforce then hostile fire... :D also if you think the concept of flying an aircraft that was refurbished after crashing or even getting shot down is facanateing I'd love to see the stories swapped by pilots and crew "yea we got our aircraft new, had to replace an engine from another airframe that was too damaged to restore and had a rebuild after we landed gear up, what's the story behind yours?" "Nothing special, had a few wing panels replaced due to flack, also full rebuild after pyroclastic flow melted some of the airframe" would also be a great museum attraction if they still had one of the ones that survived and rebuilt as an exhibit
@Ryy Dog To be fair you can't really fly a plane in volcanic ash, it is really fine and gets sucked into the engines and either a) chews everything up B) turns to glass and causes things to lock up. Go look at the mess that an volcano eruption causes to airways, it can effect thousands of miles of air space.
Dark, you are on a roll. Dark5, Dark Docs, Dark Photos & now Dark Skies. Keep it up!
Don't forget dark footage
Dark chocolate...
mmmmmmmm....
12th AAF, 57th Bomb Wing, 340th BG, 487th Bomb Squadron was hit. My father was in the unit, when he had a piece of lava come through his tent and hit him in the chest. Then it broke open red hot inside after it rolled from him.
He survived I'm guessing
Thats a great story. My Dad was in the 486th, but rotated home in Jan of 44. So he missed all that fun.
Can i just say @dark_Docs ........How amazing this narrator is at NAILING the pronunciation of foreign names of people, towns, etcetera. Blows me away. Every time. Now.....give us an episode of the Mayaguez incident.
🇺🇸 get it...Dark is best UA-cam channel hands down no competition....
Best history content ever, by far!
foken true...i say that every time
@@bryantrudy568 He doesn’t come close to Mark Felton Productions, mark is the best (check him out if you don’t believe me)
Steve1989MREInfo
True amazing channel but Mark felton is unbeatable...
Wow....my great grandpa told me a story of his ww2 time deployed to Italy, and he was there when it erupted. He never told me how devastating it was, only that it was a significant loss. That's so crazy to lose a fleet of aircraft, to a volcano nonetheless.
My Dad was an armorer in an US Army Air Force SQDN that flew Spitfires - strange but true. They eventually moved to Italy and fought their way up the Boot. He was able to take pictures of the eruption and hid the film canisters in his socks for the trip home. Bad idea, someone stole the socks 👨✈️. Bummer Dad
Weird. Never heard of this before, and I studied geology in college, specifically volcanos.
I'd get a refund if I were you.
@@jacobstewart3428 actually the classes were excellent. Just cant study every eruption I guess.
I'm surprised. While definitely something you probably wouldn't go that in-depth with, it would be an interesting fun fact to bring up on class.
I hope you did hear about the supervolcano that's the Bay of Naples, and of which Vesuvius is but a pressure vent?
If that thing pops it's bye bye southern Italy and probably most of the Mediterranean basin.
@@jwenting oh yes, the Phalgreaen fields. (Sp) a pretty unknown supervolcano to most people. Yes, this would kill millions and millions of people today.
I hate to be that guy, but the A-20 was more of a light-bomber/attacker aircraft.
79 AD. " Hey, I'll bury you alive"!,
1944. ." I'm BACK". Vesuvius , what
a joker!.
@@johnbockelie3899 what does that have to do with what I said
Well I guess somebody has to do it.
@Michael Moretti the B-24 is definitely a heavy bomber. The B-25 and B-26 are medium bombers. I could see lumping the A-20 in with those because it's size, but the payload just isn't there.
A = Attack.
My father was in U.S.Army Core of Engineers & was nearby. He spoke about the Volcano's eruptions.
"There's lava near our airfield, what do we do?"
"Let's use it to make coffee".
Yup, definently soldiers.
Not a coffee drinker, but... wouldn't you just end up with a bunch of wasted grounds irrevocably burned into the inside of the pot? Sounds more like "military 'intelligence'" than soldiers to me...
@@seand.g423 Mind you coffee wasn't nearly as a refined art back then. (Now it's over blown pompous BS half the time, looking at your Starbucks....) You toss the coffee into your pot, boil it then pour.
Now maybe the first time or two they likely got some really nasty coffee till they figure out the best spot to put it or not to leave it on as long.
So when are we getting a new channel called Dark Nature or Dark Earth?
Dark X is fast becoming one of my favorite youtube content providers. Great short documentaries!
That was splendid. I thought I knew everything 😆. I can’t believe I’ve never heard of that story ! Thanks for sharing
You dont know everything. Do you think you are me?
It goes to show Mother Nature is one enemy can't truly be beaten, and is one enemy every soldier of every generation could have to fight
I've visited Vesuvius and Pompeii twice and heard about the 1944 eruption but was never told about this aspect of the story. Great video.
I can’t fathom the courage those young men had. I’m angry at those whom don’t have a clue, humbled by those who died and pissed off at those who at all and any who didn’t want to get some and those whom don’t appreciate it.
Spike Milligan, the British comedian and author was also there with the 56th artillery regiment. He said it was a pain in the arse.
Is it not more likely the "Axis Sally" mentioned was not Gillars,, but actually the "other" Axis Sally Rita Zucca. Zucca was broadcasting out of Italy in 1944 while Gillars was in Berlin.
My grandparents told me about this when I was younger. Nowadays they found the lava flow underneath going to the volcano, they vent off the sulfur to keep the pressure under control.
Sounds like an awesome way to reassure idiots.... if that volcano wants to, naples will be a crater. And you should look up its connected naighbour which makes versuvious look tiny. I strongly suspect versuvious is just a tiny safety vent for campi flegrei and messing with one could upset the other. And campi flegei is getting very hot at the surface recently showing signs it could go vei 8, a full super eruption.
You would think maybe the idea of putting an airfield at Pompei might have elicited a moment or two’s thought. Especially once things started rumbling. What was the reasoning? “Nah! No way could this place be wiped out twice by a volcano In a couple of hundred years!”
My gradfather was there on Vesuvius the day before it erupted when he was presumably off duty. He remembered his Italian escorts immediately running off without saying anything while they were up there, which struck him as ominous. Needless to say, the next day it went off.
Great vid! Never heard about this before, thanks for educating me!
Absolutely love your channel! Vastly underrated!
Fantastic!! You've been blowing me away with the amazing videos on all the channels. Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it!
Having 101K views on 1 day putting quality. You deserve every one of them! ✊🏽
Amazing how much work the soldiers did to set up these bases
The first time I laid eyes on Vesuvius was early June 1993. She didn't expel many vapors at that time but any time past twilight you could see the top of the mountain outlined in the glow of the lava pool.
i know alot of people complain about the tempo of your narration but this is kool
Ryan Schunk rightttttt
I see people saying he talks too fast but I have no problem understanding him and it doesn't feel rushed.
God installed a balancing update
You could call it a hotfix😂
@BC Bob RNJesus
What god do you speak of?
My great grandfather was there when it erupted. He was an MP that served in the war for 4 years. It's probably what led to his early death, breathing in that ash is horrible.
Great job with your Italian pronunciation. Great video.
Naming the airbases Pompeii and Vesuvius, really was tempting fate!
This is most definitely my favorite channel
His pronunciation of names and locations in several different languages is impeccable.
I love your videos man. Please don’t EVER stop making these💕
The moral of the story is history repeats itself
My great grandfather was present onboard a cruiser or a destroyer during this event(forget which one). He told me how him and his crew had to sweep all the ash off of the deck, and how he kept some of the ashes. I’m not sure where they are now though.
Best channel ever.
Hey good job with the Italian names pronunciation, it was almost perfect 👍
No one can defeat mother mother nature.
Oh yes they can - father time
THANK-YOU, Dark Docs! I have a history minor and so I like to believe that I’m strong in WW2 lore, but this is completely new to me. I never knew!🤔 Thank-you!
Thank you. I have often wondered about this part of the Italian campaign.
If it wasn't for this video, I would never have known about this. Thanks for uploading this interesting vid. Adios
Soon to be a movie staring Tom Hanks. (G.I.) Joe vs The Volcano.
Or Chuck Norris !
Wow that's crazy there's so much of ww2 we dont get told about I think history like this should be mandatory in schools
You said the. Troubles started when the commander was lost on May 10th but that that started having issues with the volcano starting March 20th
Now this is something that I did not hear about World War II 😊
Well narrated.
A pice of History I did not know. I watch a lot videos on WW2 & I've never seen this or even heard about it. Thanks. 👍
The moment Mother Nature is sick of the war
(im so sorry ....)
mother nature .... oke boys fine , you are grounded !
*WW2 happens
Volcano: Shut the fuck up! I'm sleeping here!
I’m surprised the OIC wasn’t CM’d. He should have evacuated sooner. Vesuvius was well known to have a history of rapid build up and eruptions. They should have pulled up stakes when the volcano began emitting plumes of smoke and ash into the stratosphere.
The reason why the Volcano erupted was because Jojo crashed Kars the Ultimate Life Form into it and sent him into space for the rest of eternity.
lubricatedjellybeans lol
I am fairly well versed in WWII history and I have never heard of the ‘44 Vesuvius eruption. It just didn’t seem like a big deal considering the lost equipment was replaced very quickly and the airfields were back in service just as fast.
Perhaps you shouldn't have watched the video then. Please, feel free to post YOUR video.
I'll bet this eruption was a big deal to those who were there and dealing with it at the time!
I guess you can say they got heated
Everybody gangsta till a volcano erupts...
American and German soldiers: Fighting each other on an island with an *active* volcano.
Mount Vesuvius: Shrek voice. "GET OFF OF MY ISLAND"
So much for avoiding catastrophy!
Which was more extreme
Like- Pompeii
Reply- 1944
I find it odd that they didn't fly the planes out when they evacuated. Okay, that men's there's something I don't know. I think it would have been a good idea to mention that in the vid.
It was too dangerous to fly. They learned about the eruption in the middle of the night. By morning it was too late.
It's a very nice short documentary... but why is there a french Block MB bomber of 1939 at the 1:57 mn mark?!
Reminds me of the story surrounding Typhoon Cobra of 1944 that wrecked an American Naval Task Force in the Philippine Sea
What was the music used for the first few minutes? Because I've heard it on so many other shows and internet shows that dealt with U.F.O.'s and such and it just fits the subjects.
As for the video itself.
World war two breaks out and Vesuvius wakes up, "OH! Hey gang, what's you doing, having a war, yeah that sounds fun."
Then
"They decided to stay in place to fight the Germans."
Oh sure, sure, a deadly volcano is is erupting but you know what? It's fine, we're in a good place.
Naples was the most bombed Italian city of the Second World War and to make matters worse it also suffered the eruption.
By chance can you give a list of music you use in the background of your videos. I've been trying find music like that for a while, but keep struggling. I enjoy yours the most so if you can help please?
Way too many ads
Joseph and kars are probably fighting
What is the background music it’s amazing?
I didn't know vesuvius blew during this time. You'd think the history books wouldn't omit this.
Could you imagine you're trying to fight a the greatest war in human history and the nearby fucking mountain destroys your bombers
No force in the World can stop The force of nature from doing what’s going to do, being tornadoes hurricanes earthquakes and volcanoes erupting,
All we candidates is to stand back and let it happen and try to recoup afterwards.
its been suggested that nuking a Tornado will stop it?
THIS needs to be portrayed in either battlefield or call of duty
Call of duty 2.
@@BlazeChronicGreen420 what??? just been through it? and even googling it comes up with nothing
1:51 "Thermal heat" as opposed to nonthermal heat??
@Yar Nunya He is using thermal to describe the heat, and doesnt once mention thermal vents. He just has poor attention to detail.
@@henryatkinson1479 We know you live a flawless life, but cut the man some slack. A minor misstatement.
@@thetayz72 its not just this, there are some absurd mistakes in nearly all videos (misidentifying planes, getting years/locations wrong). Overall his vids are low-effort dramatization of surface level research.
You can please some of the people all of the time. & All of the people some of the time but you just can't please Henry Atkinson
Seeing video when the picture is stretched for a cheap fix for ratio, it drives me crazy.
i always found it poetical, the volcano vesuvius towering over nature, protesting against the foreign occupation of the homeland, i myself am from naples and i've always saw thsi event in this key
Love the story still can’t handle so many damn commercials what’s wrong with this picture
enhancer for youtube if you're on da pc ^_^
just run an adblocker. I never get YT adds, only the ones that the actual video creators put in.
Skip to the end and press replay all ads will be gone
I almost never see ads. I use an adblocker.
Google bought UA-cam that’s what’s wrong
They drank coffee from an urn lowered into the molten crust? that is freakin cool!!
My father was there. Where can I get a copy of the video?
"the most densely populated volcanic area"
Well i thought it should be merapi volcanoes ?
Naples metro area is 4 million population area, Merapi has only just 2-3 million people under its threat. Plus Naples is closer to Vesuvius than Yogyakarta to Merapi
@@rozakfassah7730 and Naples sits right on top of a supervolcano caldera, of which Vesuvius is but the only remaining vent keeping it from getting too high a pressure and erupting...
What is the background music?
“Gotta protect them planes at all costs”
“Well maybe we should fly them outta here then”
“Nah best to just hang around and keep close eye on them”
Dark docs (or someone else) can you tell me the name of the backround music that is present at the start of the video?