hello I have 5 cherry trees to always produce each year I don't know what their Crossing with. and then I just put one that self-pollinating it's very young. the other three I have all supposed to be a tartarian it never produces anything but a blossom. One of the trees is about 4 years old the other two are younger. I may be a little impatient but I'm beginning to wonder will they ever produce
Self fertile cherries like Stella or Lapins are the easiest to raise. As for Black Tartarian, Bing or Van are the usual pollinator trees but Stella seems to work well in California for that purpose.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 : wow cool! I’m a youtuber. I would love to check out your Abiu and grumichama trees and lots of your rare jaboticabo. I’m sure my audience will be delighted to hear from you. I love your channel bill!
Hi Bill, what is your number? Or should I get your Facebook screen name first to find out? Do you have Fb screen name? Or can I have your farm’s name so I can look you up on Yelp. ?
Do you fertilize it ? If so with what? I have one in central Fl. and it is a slow grower. I have a friend with one that is about 8 ft. tall and has never had fruit.
I don't do much to it. I have tossed chicken manure, citrus food and fish emulsion from time to time but nothing steady. What is your soil pH? Mine is 6.2, Grumichama like acid soil.
Trees in the wild can reach 25 to 40 feet but the cultivated ones are kept hedged to 10 feet for harvest purposes. Mine has a nice crop at about 7 feet.
Hey Bill, I got this 3ft tall Grumichama tree planted in the ground and it's mostly in a shaded area on the side of my yard. It gets morning sun until 12pm and then gets shaded out. I'm just worried that I planted it in the wrong spot. I did see that Grumichama in person at Quarry Lakes as you mentioned and at that's in full sun with no issues. I'm starting to wonder if I should move it into full sun or leave it there and let my Grumi grow into the sun along the fence line. Btw I went to Regans Nursery in Fremont and they now carry Suriname Cherry bushes in a 5gallon and Cherry of the Rio Grande in a 5gallon. I think they should start carrying Grumichamas and Jaboticabas at all the nurseries now!
Finding sources for the plants is one of the main reasons local nurseries do not have these. Some one has to grow them. The other is lack of interest. You have to know these fruits exist and then take the risk of planting them. Most folks have never heard of them. You have a business if you decide to be the a cultivator and promoter. As for the grumichama it is a full sun plant. If the plant will eventually grow tall enough that it gets over what ever is blocking the sun you are good. If it won't them moving is a possible solution. That depends on how long the tree has been in place. If it is a year old I'd move it. If it is older I'd leave it be. Afternoon shade will not damage the tree.
That is the dream. Creating my little nursery with exotic trees. Yes, My grumi has only been in the ground for several months so, moving would be a good idea.
@@gardengainzz9191 Nursery is a good honest business that does little harm and often improves the planet. Go niche, it is the only way for the little guy. Back in CA I knew a guy with 1.5 acres of water plants that made a million plus gross every year.
I will have enough seed to ship some time in the next two weeks. Contact me at greengardenservice@yahoo.com for more information. I ran Navlet's Nursery in Danville and Fremont for years. The difference in the weather between those two towns is dramatic. Bananas grow in the garden in Fremont but are only found in the market in Danville. I would say it is possible you may succeed but you can't be sure without trying.
Nope. I have canceled that idea with the rise of covid. I am limiting my contact with the public as much as possible. The nursery is open though to those with masks and vaccinations. I do have some produce at the moment. Yellow Dragon fruit, apple banana, abiu and citrus.
Wishing you all the best with your relocation. I enjoy watching your videos. It is eye candy to me for my next quest of more land. I currently have one Apple tree (Golden Delicious) (approximately 1 year old (when I bought it in the pot) and a Pear tree (Keiffer) both growing in large pots (5 gallon+). Neither blooms or fruits. The pear is now 3 years old. I guess I need to plant them in the ground and get cross pollinating trees. The apple leaves seem to curl with sometime little bugs. I want to grow organically, but not sure how to treat it. If you have any time, any advise would be greatly appreciate. Peace and blessings!
Both Kieffer Pear and Golden Delicious apple are considered self fertile trees that do not require a pollinator. They are good pollinators of other apple or pear trees though. As far as curled leaves I would need more information about the specific nature of the insects. Two common ones that come to mind are the aphid, which curls leaves as it feeds in mass under neath the leaf and the larvae of the Leaf roller who roll the leaf up for a cocoon and stitches it shut with silk. Do either of these sound right?
No pitting needed - too much juice will leech out and they won't be as chewy good. Just nibble around the pit/s. It's good to pierce with a needle in a few places - kind of like drying large grapes for raisins. Piercing helps them to dry more evenly :)
Thanks for the tip. For a while I will be pulling all the seeds out of the crop because of the high price the seeds and plants get. Eventually I will end up with enough to dry them pit and all.
Those look good! Can't grow them, haha. Never mind, i really enjoy watching your videos. Congratulations on your successful move! You look happy, Bill. I'm happy too because now i can grow tomatoes in northern Europe! I just bought myself 2 modestly sized plastic tunnels on sale, 2 by 3 meters, and 3 tomato greenhouses of 1.50 by 2 meters, and practically bought everything else they had for dump prices, ground tunnels, organic fertillizers... wow. Left the store only 200 euros lighter. just when i decided to throw my tomatoes on the compost heap because i thought i would not be able to get tunnels for the money i had, not even one. They would not have survived the weather here anyway. This is like a dream come true for me, tomatoes, cucumbers and melons! I'm happy i still sowed all these things even though i wasn't sure i was going to make it! The regular cherry i have turns out to be a sour, bitter horrible thing only the birds want. I think i will replace it with something nicer. If you have any recommendations, i'd love to hear it. I'm in European seaclimate. I already have all the obvious things.
Glad to hear you can now grow exotics like tomatoes, cucumbers and melons. Here in Hawaii we have tomato trouble too but it is from the rain. It gives the plants leaf diseases and people grow them under cover to keep the plants dry. You aren't alone with tomato trouble. If the recommendation you are looking for is a specific cherry I would try one of the tart or pie cherry types. These are very hardy and are grown in the Upper Great Lakes of the US. The climate is cold and sometimes damp there but the trees grow well. I had sweet cherries in California but they were never as useful as the pie cherries i used to raise in the Midwest. If cherries weren't in your thoughts then correct me.
I'm looking forward to planting my 3ft tall Grumichama tree which is still in a pot. Could you suggest what type of soil I should use here in my Sf bayarea zone 10a? I'm sure you are already aware that they have one growing at Quarry Lakes. Thanks
This plant is not particular about soil. At Quarry Lakes it is growing on gravel and silt left from the pits. Here in Hawaii mine grow on volcanic ash. In containers I use either Pro-Mix or G & B potting soil. What ever soil is in your yard will likely work as long as drainage is fair, organic matter is good and fertility is average.
Hey Bill, how are your Grumichamas doing? You have any new thoughts about these, any problems/pest you are seeing? I'd love to see you do an update video on these delicious little cherries.
I did fine with Grumichama for years then one day some problem struck my plant. It has died back half way and stopped fruiting. Could be a root rot. I have volunteer seedlings in the area that have continued to fruit. They are young and small. I am uncertain of the life span of this plant in Hawaii.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Sad to hear you lost your big Grumichama tree. We have 21 we started from seeds from our neighbors (mauka a few hundred feet in elevation). Their trees are 12 years or more old. I planted seeds in May 2020, so my trees (all still in pots - 2 or 3 gallon) are 2 ½ years old. I'll give you a couple if you'd like to plant them.
@@KeithKropf I have seedlings in the nursery plus self sown trees in the field. Thanks for the offer. I just wish I understood what happened to the parent tree. It is still alive but has become unproductive and gradually shrinks in size. It looks like a root rot.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 We have problems with Phytophthora here. My neighbor has had good success with drenching the soil around his trees with Aliette WDG fungicide. I have treated non bearing potted plants and it has saved my sugar apple (Annona squamosa) seedlings.
@@KeithKropf The issue is likely the same. I don't treat for it I just plant new stuff in fresh locations. A. squamosa seems like kind of a poor choice in Mt View. It grows here but very slowly.
Well drained, moist, high organic content, pH 6.1-6.5 (slightly acidic) is best. This plant will have iron, magnesium, and manganese deficiencies in alkaline soil.
Yes, I talked with a man yesterday about building a driveway and a pad to build my produce stand on. I imagine by next year i should be up and running.
When the fruit is in season I sell seed on my website. Right now it is not fruiting. Probably next spring. International shipping is as much or more than the cost of the seed though. There is no way to track international seeds deliveries either.
hi Bill! it's me again..I've been watching your older videos and enjoying your new experiences trying new fruits! I've never heard of this fruit before,the leaves are beautiful and the fruit looks delicious. I wonder if you are selling seeds , if so I would love to buy. thankyou,Michele
I do sell seeds for the plant but the seed can not be dried and the plant is currently not fruiting. It is a bit erratic about flowering but it appears to have the best crops on even day lengths. We just passed through a flush of fruit I suspect I should have a crop of seed again by Sept. Try me again in the fall.
Never seen that fruit before, well now I have, thanks. I currently been enjoying apricots in my northern California garden, my tree is loaded with them.
I spent many years in CA pruning and picking apricots. They are a joy. I have a tropical apricot here in Hawaii that is doing very well and I am waiting for fruit to come.
Jaboticabas, grumixama, surinam cherry and cherry of rio grande are fruits that grows naturally in the south of Brazil. Their fruits get ripe at the same, I had the chance to try all of them this week.
All good fruits. The Jaboticaba is my favorite followed by Grumichama. There is a lot of variation in Surinam Cherry so I hope to fine a bush I like eventually. I have yet to locate a seed source for Cherry of the Rio Grande in Hawaii.
I have Jaboticaba red and sabara, cherry of the rio, pitomba, black Surinam and pitangatuba I don't grow grumichama because they aren't very prolific in my experience, I know small trees that haven't flowered for several years
Hey Bill, I'm growing a Grumichama myself here in Hayward, CA zone 10a. It's about bushy 1 1/2ft tall in 1gallon. Looking forward to some fruit in the future. I'm also growing a 5-6ft tall Cherry of the Rio Grande, Black Suriname Cherry, Pitangatuba, and Pitomba of the Eugenia family. I also have other tropical/subtropical plants such as Jaboticaba and Kohala Longan.
Of them I would favor the Grumichama and the Jaboticaba. There are examples of these two growing at Quarry Lakes in Fremont. I've never become found of the resin taste in the Surinam Cherry. I like Longan enough but they are so slow growing and they didn't do anything in Fremont. Barely survived the winter.
Yes, I have been to the rare fruit grove at Quarry Lakes in Fremont many times. I've seen the 2 Jaboticabas side by side and plucked a couple last year. I heard that the Black Suriname Cherry is much sweeter variety and doesn't have that cayenne pepper aftertaste. I'll let you know once I get mine to fruit. As for the Longan, I have read that the Kohala Longan is suited more for the Bay Area climate than the Biew Kiew Longan. My zone is 10a, so I should be fine. We didn't get any frost this year. Although, it went down to 35degrees for few days only. I have it planted it between my Rio Red Grapefruit tree and Meyer lemon tree, in my mini micro climate it should be fine.
I have the black Surinam here and I am still not that fond of the fruit. The resin taste remains. I grow a lot of strange fruit but all in all the most common fruits like banana, pineapple, papaya, apples, blueberries etc are still the ones that I consume 90% of the time. I eat almost anything but I'll take a good tangerine over a Surinam cherry any day. I have no records of anyone ever fruiting Longan in the Bay Area. If it fruits do a video and let me know. Aloha.
There are many different varieties of Jaboticaba. Depending on the origins of your plant the time to fruit can be as short as 3 to 4 years, or 7 to 10 and as long as 15. If the plant came from the seeds at Quarry lake that is an easy maturing type and will probably take 4 to 7 years. I have a dozen varieties here in HI and they are all over the map. Most yield around 7 years but I have one that finally fruited after 12 years.
I've never put the brix meter on either fruit but in my mouth they seem similar for sugar but the flavor and the way the fruit reacts in the mouth is very different. The Gumichama is more like eating a sweet cherry in the way the skin pops and the juice is released. The Jaboticaba is more like a slip skin grape. The skin pops, the pulp slides out in the mouth with a gush of sweet juice. If you continue chewing then the acid in the skin releases a resin taste as well as a tart taste.
If the plant appears otherwise healthy I suspect a lack of fertilizer might be the trouble. If the plant is yellowish and spotted then it may have a disease.
I sell the seeds at my website www.greengardenservice.net Right now the crop is out of season. My trees are blooming heavily and the next crop should be good. Since the seeds can not be dried I can only sell them during the fruiting season. My guess is I will have them on the sales page in 2 to 3 months again.
These will do well to zone 9. I am in Z9 and never even cover it from frosts. No fruit yet though. A friend has a large tree and has never had fruit either. Maybe needs a pollinator.
I am not aware of any race of grumichama that needs cross pollination but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist. The Quarry Lakes Regional Park in Fremont, CA has a live Grumichama on the peninsula in the lake. It had not reached age to fruit before I moved to HI but it was growing. Fremont is zone 9 B to 10 A. The one thing I have noticed about grumichama in Hawaii is it requires feeding to fruit. The plant will survive without feeding but it will not flower. Every time I toss some food under the tree it opens in a flush of flowers. When i neglect the tree it does nothing.
Nope, I'm fine and the farm is fine too. The only issues here were terrible poor sales in the nursery and a strange lack of pollination for the year. The last I am still scratching my head over.
Seems like a really good addition to the edible garden! Love the looks of this shrub! And evergreen plants turns me on! (As long as their not Junipers or Conifer trees or something related...) Maybe because i live in a zone were we can have little evergreen plants. Rodhodendron is the most common one over here, not much of a culinary experience tho (i guess).
Yes, long before the plant made fruit I was enjoying it's glossy green foliage. Truly excellent garden crop. Even in Hawaii the plants sell for a fairly high price. I am splitting my harvest between seed sales and plant propagation. In the mean time i am eating all the fruit myself.
GreenGardenGuy1 Well sounds like a perfect combo harvesting the seeds while eating the fruit. Then get to work. You sell the plants on farmers market or plan to drag the customers to your farm?
I will be building a produce stand and public nursery here on the land. I am on a fairly busy county road and only 2/10 of a mile from the main highway crossing the Island. A simple sandwich board sign on the corner should pull in a lot of people. People also find me from the internet. I don't have my new website up yet but soon. First I need something to sell so I am planting up a storm.
GreenGardenGuy1 Ah thats very handy! Perfect being able to sell it at home. Less work, also means you can perhaps have better prices and thereby sell more. Yeah but if youtube became better at recommending vidoes, i would have found you many years ago, i watch like 90% gardening and related videos (atleast most of the time) And they recommend me to watch about anything else, so i find it hard to find the gems like your channel. Internet is a great thing! Imagine how much things we have been able to teach/buy from all over the world with the help of the net. We hade a Politician that said its only a fashion thing will be over in 1-2 years, he could not have been more wrong. I havent run any kind of website since my youth, it was a fishing page i run on the behalf of my self and some friends.
I often wonder why some of the dumber garden channels are popular than mine. Probably because the providers pay google for preferred placement. Not all channels are represented by value, many buy the placement. I refuse to do that. I'm also rather pragmatic and I do no't involve myself in sensationalism. A lot of people are drawn to miracle solutions. I find many garden channels to be annoying and I can't stay tuned for more than a minute or two.
Hi Ben. I will have enough seed to ship in the next two weeks. Contact me at greengardenservice@yahoo for more information. Glad to hear the sapote are working out.
How long does it take to fruit when grown from seed?
About 6 years.
hello I have 5 cherry trees to always produce each year I don't know what their Crossing with. and then I just put one that self-pollinating it's very young. the other three I have all supposed to be a tartarian it never produces anything but a blossom. One of the trees is about 4 years old the other two are younger. I may be a little impatient but I'm beginning to wonder will they ever produce
Self fertile cherries like Stella or Lapins are the easiest to raise. As for Black Tartarian, Bing or Van are the usual pollinator trees but Stella seems to work well in California for that purpose.
Hi Bill, are you in the BIG ISLAND? Can I come to visit your farm on my vacation this spring 2022?
Yes, I am here in Puna on the B.I. HI. Provided I'm still breathing come spring you are welcome to drop in. Best to call ahead.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 : wow cool! I’m a youtuber. I would love to check out your Abiu and grumichama trees and lots of your rare jaboticabo. I’m sure my audience will be delighted to hear from you. I love your channel bill!
@@youngsgarden8766 See you then. Call ahead to be sure I'm around the farm.
Hi Bill, what is your number? Or should I get your Facebook screen name first to find out? Do you have Fb screen name? Or can I have your farm’s name so I can look you up on Yelp. ?
Do you fertilize it ? If so with what? I have one in central Fl. and it is a slow grower. I have a friend with one that is about 8 ft. tall and has never had fruit.
I don't do much to it. I have tossed chicken manure, citrus food and fish emulsion from time to time but nothing steady. What is your soil pH? Mine is 6.2, Grumichama like acid soil.
The big island looks good on you Bill. How big does this plant get? I'm in Nor Cal and might be interested in giving it a go.
Trees in the wild can reach 25 to 40 feet but the cultivated ones are kept hedged to 10 feet for harvest purposes. Mine has a nice crop at about 7 feet.
Hey Bill, I got this 3ft tall Grumichama tree planted in the ground and it's mostly in a shaded area on the side of my yard. It gets morning sun until 12pm and then gets shaded out. I'm just worried that I planted it in the wrong spot. I did see that Grumichama in person at Quarry Lakes as you mentioned and at that's in full sun with no issues. I'm starting to wonder if I should move it into full sun or leave it there and let my Grumi grow into the sun along the fence line. Btw I went to Regans Nursery in Fremont and they now carry Suriname Cherry bushes in a 5gallon and Cherry of the Rio Grande in a 5gallon. I think they should start carrying Grumichamas and Jaboticabas at all the nurseries now!
Finding sources for the plants is one of the main reasons local nurseries do not have these. Some one has to grow them. The other is lack of interest. You have to know these fruits exist and then take the risk of planting them. Most folks have never heard of them. You have a business if you decide to be the a cultivator and promoter.
As for the grumichama it is a full sun plant. If the plant will eventually grow tall enough that it gets over what ever is blocking the sun you are good. If it won't them moving is a possible solution. That depends on how long the tree has been in place. If it is a year old I'd move it. If it is older I'd leave it be. Afternoon shade will not damage the tree.
That is the dream. Creating my little nursery with exotic trees. Yes, My grumi has only been in the ground for several months so, moving would be a good idea.
@@gardengainzz9191 Nursery is a good honest business that does little harm and often improves the planet. Go niche, it is the only way for the little guy. Back in CA I knew a guy with 1.5 acres of water plants that made a million plus gross every year.
Since you said it grows in Fremont, I am guessing it would grow in Danville. I would like to try it. Let me know when you have seeds available.
I will have enough seed to ship some time in the next two weeks. Contact me at greengardenservice@yahoo.com for more information. I ran Navlet's Nursery in Danville and Fremont for years. The difference in the weather between those two towns is dramatic. Bananas grow in the garden in Fremont but are only found in the market in Danville. I would say it is possible you may succeed but you can't be sure without trying.
Aloha Bill! Did you ever get your produce stand up? I would love to visit! Mahalo
Nope. I have canceled that idea with the rise of covid. I am limiting my contact with the public as much as possible. The nursery is open though to those with masks and vaccinations. I do have some produce at the moment. Yellow Dragon fruit, apple banana, abiu and citrus.
Can I come get some Abiu and yellow dragon fruit? I am fully vaccinated and wear my mask. Where is your produce stand located Bill? Mahalo, Jeanette
Sorry, I meant nursery.
Wishing you all the best with your relocation. I enjoy watching your videos.
It is eye candy to me for my next quest of more land.
I currently have one Apple tree (Golden Delicious) (approximately 1 year old (when I bought it in the pot) and a Pear tree (Keiffer) both growing in large pots (5 gallon+). Neither blooms or fruits.
The pear is now 3 years old. I guess I need to plant them in the ground and get cross pollinating trees.
The apple leaves seem to curl with sometime little bugs. I want to grow organically, but not sure how to treat it. If you have any time, any advise would be greatly appreciate. Peace and blessings!
Both Kieffer Pear and Golden Delicious apple are considered self fertile trees that do not require a pollinator. They are good pollinators of other apple or pear trees though.
As far as curled leaves I would need more information about the specific nature of the insects. Two common ones that come to mind are the aphid, which curls leaves as it feeds in mass under neath the leaf and the larvae of the Leaf roller who roll the leaf up for a cocoon and stitches it shut with silk. Do either of these sound right?
They dry really well and make an excellent on-the-go snack. Glad the move went well, thanks for the update!
I imagine you pit them first? Sounds like a great idea. Like I said, this is a learning curve for me too.
No pitting needed - too much juice will leech out and they won't be as chewy good. Just nibble around the pit/s. It's good to pierce with a needle in a few places - kind of like drying large grapes for raisins. Piercing helps them to dry more evenly :)
Thanks for the tip. For a while I will be pulling all the seeds out of the crop because of the high price the seeds and plants get. Eventually I will end up with enough to dry them pit and all.
Those look good! Can't grow them, haha. Never mind, i really enjoy watching your videos. Congratulations on your successful move! You look happy, Bill. I'm happy too because now i can grow tomatoes in northern Europe! I just bought myself 2 modestly sized plastic tunnels on sale, 2 by 3 meters, and 3 tomato greenhouses of 1.50 by 2 meters, and practically bought everything else they had for dump prices, ground tunnels, organic fertillizers... wow. Left the store only 200 euros lighter. just when i decided to throw my tomatoes on the compost heap because i thought i would not be able to get tunnels for the money i had, not even one. They would not have survived the weather here anyway. This is like a dream come true for me, tomatoes, cucumbers and melons! I'm happy i still sowed all these things even though i wasn't sure i was going to make it! The regular cherry i have turns out to be a sour, bitter horrible thing only the birds want. I think i will replace it with something nicer. If you have any recommendations, i'd love to hear it. I'm in European seaclimate. I already have all the obvious things.
Glad to hear you can now grow exotics like tomatoes, cucumbers and melons. Here in Hawaii we have tomato trouble too but it is from the rain. It gives the plants leaf diseases and people grow them under cover to keep the plants dry. You aren't alone with tomato trouble.
If the recommendation you are looking for is a specific cherry I would try one of the tart or pie cherry types. These are very hardy and are grown in the Upper Great Lakes of the US. The climate is cold and sometimes damp there but the trees grow well. I had sweet cherries in California but they were never as useful as the pie cherries i used to raise in the Midwest. If cherries weren't in your thoughts then correct me.
I'm looking forward to planting my 3ft tall Grumichama tree which is still in a pot. Could you suggest what type of soil I should use here in my Sf bayarea zone 10a? I'm sure you are already aware that they have one growing at Quarry Lakes. Thanks
This plant is not particular about soil. At Quarry Lakes it is growing on gravel and silt left from the pits. Here in Hawaii mine grow on volcanic ash. In containers I use either Pro-Mix or G & B potting soil. What ever soil is in your yard will likely work as long as drainage is fair, organic matter is good and fertility is average.
Thank you sir!
Hey Bill, how are your Grumichamas doing? You have any new thoughts about these, any problems/pest you are seeing? I'd love to see you do an update video on these delicious little cherries.
I did fine with Grumichama for years then one day some problem struck my plant. It has died back half way and stopped fruiting. Could be a root rot. I have volunteer seedlings in the area that have continued to fruit. They are young and small. I am uncertain of the life span of this plant in Hawaii.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Sad to hear you lost your big Grumichama tree. We have 21 we started from seeds from our neighbors (mauka a few hundred feet in elevation). Their trees are 12 years or more old. I planted seeds in May 2020, so my trees (all still in pots - 2 or 3 gallon) are 2 ½ years old. I'll give you a couple if you'd like to plant them.
@@KeithKropf I have seedlings in the nursery plus self sown trees in the field. Thanks for the offer. I just wish I understood what happened to the parent tree. It is still alive but has become unproductive and gradually shrinks in size. It looks like a root rot.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 We have problems with Phytophthora here. My neighbor has had good success with drenching the soil around his trees with Aliette WDG fungicide. I have treated non bearing potted plants and it has saved my sugar apple (Annona squamosa) seedlings.
@@KeithKropf The issue is likely the same. I don't treat for it I just plant new stuff in fresh locations. A. squamosa seems like kind of a poor choice in Mt View. It grows here but very slowly.
Good to see you back making videos.
I was getting lonely, had to crank one out just to hear from gardeners. I have another on Mountain apples I may post today. Stay tuned. Bill
Question What is the ph area that the Grumichama likes?
Well drained, moist, high organic content, pH 6.1-6.5 (slightly acidic) is best. This plant will have iron, magnesium, and manganese deficiencies in alkaline soil.
I'm glad to see you back. Will you start growing produce to sell at outdoor markets like your dragon fruits or pineapples?
Yes, I talked with a man yesterday about building a driveway and a pad to build my produce stand on. I imagine by next year i should be up and running.
Hi , I am from India , I would like to know more about Grumichama , how can I get seeds
When the fruit is in season I sell seed on my website. Right now it is not fruiting. Probably next spring. International shipping is as much or more than the cost of the seed though. There is no way to track international seeds deliveries either.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 okey thanks
hi Bill! it's me again..I've been watching your older videos and enjoying your new experiences trying new fruits! I've never heard of this fruit before,the leaves are beautiful and the fruit looks delicious. I wonder if you are selling seeds , if so I would love to buy. thankyou,Michele
I do sell seeds for the plant but the seed can not be dried and the plant is currently not fruiting. It is a bit erratic about flowering but it appears to have the best crops on even day lengths. We just passed through a flush of fruit I suspect I should have a crop of seed again by Sept. Try me again in the fall.
@@Yami_Pegasus I am sold out of Cupuacu in the nursery. I have a few trees in the field but it will be year before they pod.
@@Yami_Pegasus Sorry, I don't text. Typing with two thumbs seems a strange way to communicate to me.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 no problem how can i keep in touch?
@@Yami_Pegasus I use email and voice telephone for communication. information is posted on my website. www.greengardenservice.net
Never seen that fruit before, well now I have, thanks. I currently been enjoying apricots in my northern California garden, my tree is loaded with them.
I spent many years in CA pruning and picking apricots. They are a joy. I have a tropical apricot here in Hawaii that is doing very well and I am waiting for fruit to come.
Jaboticabas, grumixama, surinam cherry and cherry of rio grande are fruits that grows naturally in the south of Brazil. Their fruits get ripe at the same, I had the chance to try all of them this week.
All good fruits. The Jaboticaba is my favorite followed by Grumichama. There is a lot of variation in Surinam Cherry so I hope to fine a bush I like eventually. I have yet to locate a seed source for Cherry of the Rio Grande in Hawaii.
I have Jaboticaba red and sabara, cherry of the rio, pitomba, black Surinam and pitangatuba
I don't grow grumichama because they aren't very prolific in my experience, I know small trees that haven't flowered for several years
Hey Bill, I'm growing a Grumichama myself here in Hayward, CA zone 10a. It's about bushy 1 1/2ft tall in 1gallon. Looking forward to some fruit in the future. I'm also growing a 5-6ft tall Cherry of the Rio Grande, Black Suriname Cherry, Pitangatuba, and Pitomba of the Eugenia family. I also have other tropical/subtropical plants such as Jaboticaba and Kohala Longan.
Of them I would favor the Grumichama and the Jaboticaba. There are examples of these two growing at Quarry Lakes in Fremont. I've never become found of the resin taste in the Surinam Cherry. I like Longan enough but they are so slow growing and they didn't do anything in Fremont. Barely survived the winter.
Yes, I have been to the rare fruit grove at Quarry Lakes in Fremont many times. I've seen the 2 Jaboticabas side by side and plucked a couple last year. I heard that the Black Suriname Cherry is much sweeter variety and doesn't have that cayenne pepper aftertaste. I'll let you know once I get mine to fruit. As for the Longan, I have read that the Kohala Longan is suited more for the Bay Area climate than the Biew Kiew Longan. My zone is 10a, so I should be fine. We didn't get any frost this year. Although, it went down to 35degrees for few days only. I have it planted it between my Rio Red Grapefruit tree and Meyer lemon tree, in my mini micro climate it should be fine.
My Jaboticaba tree is a bushy 3ft tall tree. How many years until I get some fruit of this tree??
I have the black Surinam here and I am still not that fond of the fruit. The resin taste remains. I grow a lot of strange fruit but all in all the most common fruits like banana, pineapple, papaya, apples, blueberries etc are still the ones that I consume 90% of the time. I eat almost anything but I'll take a good tangerine over a Surinam cherry any day. I have no records of anyone ever fruiting Longan in the Bay Area. If it fruits do a video and let me know. Aloha.
There are many different varieties of Jaboticaba. Depending on the origins of your plant the time to fruit can be as short as 3 to 4 years, or 7 to 10 and as long as 15. If the plant came from the seeds at Quarry lake that is an easy maturing type and will probably take 4 to 7 years. I have a dozen varieties here in HI and they are all over the map. Most yield around 7 years but I have one that finally fruited after 12 years.
What's sweeter this or jabotacaba
I've never put the brix meter on either fruit but in my mouth they seem similar for sugar but the flavor and the way the fruit reacts in the mouth is very different. The Gumichama is more like eating a sweet cherry in the way the skin pops and the juice is released. The Jaboticaba is more like a slip skin grape. The skin pops, the pulp slides out in the mouth with a gush of sweet juice. If you continue chewing then the acid in the skin releases a resin taste as well as a tart taste.
You grow this tree from seed?
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Does it sweet in taste or tart..??
It is a well balanced fruit with similarities to a true cherry. It lacks the tartaric acid of the cherry.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 sweetness..??
@@HimadriSarkar333 At 2 minutes and 20 seconds in this video I pronounced the fruit as sweet. Yes it is sweet.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 may I omitted that/didn't get properly..anyhow thanks..
@@HimadriSarkar333 Aloha
I got a grumichama seedling several months ago and it hasn’t grown at all
If the plant appears otherwise healthy I suspect a lack of fertilizer might be the trouble. If the plant is yellowish and spotted then it may have a disease.
I want those. How can i get them?
I sell the seeds at my website www.greengardenservice.net Right now the crop is out of season. My trees are blooming heavily and the next crop should be good. Since the seeds can not be dried I can only sell them during the fruiting season. My guess is I will have them on the sales page in 2 to 3 months again.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 ok i will visit your web.
These will do well to zone 9. I am in Z9 and never even cover it from frosts. No fruit yet though. A friend has a large tree and has never had fruit either. Maybe needs a pollinator.
I am not aware of any race of grumichama that needs cross pollination but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist. The Quarry Lakes Regional Park in Fremont, CA has a live Grumichama on the peninsula in the lake. It had not reached age to fruit before I moved to HI but it was growing. Fremont is zone 9 B to 10 A. The one thing I have noticed about grumichama in Hawaii is it requires feeding to fruit. The plant will survive without feeding but it will not flower. Every time I toss some food under the tree it opens in a flush of flowers. When i neglect the tree it does nothing.
Hi I am searching for the yellow grumichama tree do you have a grafted or air layered tree you can sell me.
Nope sorry, I only have the purple one.
Aloha Bill: I hope you did not sustain and damage from the volcano activity.Be safe Scott Hamilton
Nope, I'm fine and the farm is fine too. The only issues here were terrible poor sales in the nursery and a strange lack of pollination for the year. The last I am still scratching my head over.
Seems like a really good addition to the edible garden! Love the looks of this shrub! And evergreen plants turns me on! (As long as their not Junipers or Conifer trees or something related...) Maybe because i live in a zone were we can have little evergreen plants. Rodhodendron is the most common one over here, not much of a culinary experience tho (i guess).
Yes, long before the plant made fruit I was enjoying it's glossy green foliage. Truly excellent garden crop. Even in Hawaii the plants sell for a fairly high price. I am splitting my harvest between seed sales and plant propagation. In the mean time i am eating all the fruit myself.
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Well sounds like a perfect combo harvesting the seeds while eating the fruit. Then get to work. You sell the plants on farmers market or plan to drag the customers to your farm?
I will be building a produce stand and public nursery here on the land. I am on a fairly busy county road and only 2/10 of a mile from the main highway crossing the Island. A simple sandwich board sign on the corner should pull in a lot of people. People also find me from the internet. I don't have my new website up yet but soon. First I need something to sell so I am planting up a storm.
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Ah thats very handy! Perfect being able to sell it at home. Less work, also means you can perhaps have better prices and thereby sell more. Yeah but if youtube became better at recommending vidoes, i would have found you many years ago, i watch like 90% gardening and related videos (atleast most of the time) And they recommend me to watch about anything else, so i find it hard to find the gems like your channel.
Internet is a great thing! Imagine how much things we have been able to teach/buy from all over the world with the help of the net. We hade a Politician that said its only a fashion thing will be over in 1-2 years, he could not have been more wrong. I havent run any kind of website since my youth, it was a fishing page i run on the behalf of my self and some friends.
I often wonder why some of the dumber garden channels are popular than mine. Probably because the providers pay google for preferred placement. Not all channels are represented by value, many buy the placement. I refuse to do that. I'm also rather pragmatic and I do no't involve myself in sensationalism. A lot of people are drawn to miracle solutions. I find many garden channels to be annoying and I can't stay tuned for more than a minute or two.
Nice video, I always appreciate your attempts to pin down the taste. Saves me a ton of time .
This is one of the best Eugenia fruits I've eaten to date. The plant is hardy enough to grow in coastal California so it isn't exclusively tropical.
I'm actually near Ocala Florida 45 min. north of the frost line. We have limited frosts, What do you think ?
I believe you have a good chance to grow this plant. I know it survives light frost in CA.
SWEET!!! If I find one this year I'll try it out, and i'll let you know what happens in the spring. THANK YOU again !!
If you have trouble contact me for seeds. I have them from time to time.
I'd like to get some seeds seeds!
Sure thing. I will have enough to ship with in the next two weeks. Contact me at greengardenservice@yahoo.com for more information.
I'd like some seeds bill. youre white sapote is about a foot tall now
Hi Ben. I will have enough seed to ship in the next two weeks. Contact me at greengardenservice@yahoo for more information. Glad to hear the sapote are working out.