Chrollo can't beat Hisoka without a lot of prep time. He won the first time because it was a duel that he planned for and because Hisoka was willing to humor him and fight him in Heaven's Arena. Current Hisoka is stronger because of the post-mortem nen boost and he won't fight fairly any more. He is hunting the Troupe not dueling them, if it looks like he is at a disadvantage he won't attack, he told Machi he won't let them choose the time and place any more.
I think he could’ve beaten Hisoka (pre post mortem nen) without prep time in Heaven’s Arena. I think it was that he wanted a plan that had a 99.99% success rate to defeat him. Ain’t no telling how strong post mortem nen Hisoka is tho.
Absolutely false hisoka claimed that he loves when he’s opponent come up with a plan and he loves to destroy those plans and watch their opponent crumble but only this time chrollo low diffed and outsmarted him , the reason why chrollo choose heavens arena was to kill hisoka once for all so he never comes back and bothers the troupe again , hisoka had as much as prep time as chrollo so what’s your argument on saying Chrollo can’t beat hisoka is absolutely dogshit
@@BrothaSchwifty I don’t understand how anyone could assume Chrollo would still win against Hisoka without prep-time. That’s literally what he ended to assure his victory. This would imply without prep time that he would flat out lose in a direct 1v1. He probably would lose badly to the point Hisoka was entirely wrong about his assumptions of Chrollo.
@@BlueCosmo369 I personally don’t think it’s fair to assume just because Chrollo chose to prep for his first battle with Hisoka means that without it, he would lose a 1 on 1 fight pre mortem or post mortem because we don’t know how big of a gap in power there was/is between them before or after Hisoka died It’s very possible that Chrollo was stronger pre mortem but post mortem Hisoka is on his level now and it’s also possible that Chrollo was stronger pre mortem but Hisoka has surpassed him post mortem.
@fabiodx2 me to not gonna lie it’s gonna be the best antagonist vs antagonist of all time of all anime Chrolla”Let’s make this a fight to the death “ Hisoka”Fine by me”
@@ianlindblom6579 knowing togashi it would be insane if the phantom troupe really show why they are who they are and win against the mafia but then lose to Hisoka anyways
@@kevinrotsaert6292 to avoid him be needs to know where he is first, bonolenov didn't tell chrollo hisoka is in tier 1 because chrollo only instructed to wait for him, i think chrollo tries to find hisoka 'just in case' his earlier prediction of him being in tier 1 is wrong
Hisoka is just as smart as Chrollo he wouldn’t fall for the same trick twice. Chrollo will have to fight a completely different fight this time around.
He's not looking for Hisoka with that phone lmao. He's looking for any ability user that can permanently kill Hisoka. Camilla's post-mortem cat nen can do this, for example. "Even if I die"
Right, Chrollo is attempting to evade Hisoka until he accomplishes his mission and created an alternative plan in case he runs into Hisoka, so it is not Hisoka that he is searching for unless he is using that phone to avoid Hisoka.
@@Dynamic-Weeb Definitely not trying to find hisoka with the phone. There is a reason he mentions it’s a risk going to the upper tiers. He is looking for an ability to kill hisoka before actually fighting him. The risk is running into hisoka before he steals that new ability he is looking for with the phone. he knows if hisoka finds him at this moment, chrollo would die. that’s why he mentions the spider will continue without him. (Seems to have a contingency plan for his troupe upon his death). Only reason he would use the phone to find hisoka, would be to stay out of his way, but that makes no sense. If that’s the case why would he go up the tiers as he is doing. He is moving toward the target that the phone is looking for. If he is trying to avoid hisoka why not go down to other tiers, and get farther away from hisoka, instead of moving towards him with the risk of running into him. Also, he can’t use the same method he used at heaven’s arena, he doesn’t have shalnark and Kortopis ability anymore. That’s why hisoka precisely went after them first, so chrollo cant use that same method again. Hence the reason he is looking for a strong/rare ability that will kill hisoka. And he is using the phone to find someone that he can steal that new ability from. I was thinking prolly a hei-Ly member, or a zodiac, or knowing togashi a completely new character wouldn’t be out of the norm here 😂
I don’t think Chrollo was looking for Hisoka at Heaven’s Arena. After Chrollo got back his nen, one of them had to have picked a day for the match. Maybe he used the phone to help steal Order Stamp? I don’t remember if Chrollo disclosed how he got it
4:57 if anyone is confused i'll say what i think is happening. Hinrigh said that his ability would only stay active for 2 hours, so it turning back means the time's up. You can see that it's beeping, wich sooner or later is going to be heard by one of the heil-ly. That could lead to them using it to make a trap
I think it has to do with him finding out a troupe member killed lynch. Maybe he deactivated it on purpose so the hei-Ly can find the device and set up a trap for phinks and feitan. Basically he is betraying the troupe. Since bono killed his mafia colleague.
Chrollo was looking for hisoka at heavens arena but is now probably looking for someone else. Hes just commenting on the fact that being unable to find someone with the phone was the same thing that happened at heavens arenaz
Very disappointed with the chapter analysis. You made a lot of mistakes. Chrollo cannot use the exact same method, you know why? 1. It failed to work the last time 2. Chrollo has lost Gallary Fake, and Black Voice, which means he cannot create puppets, Which means Order stamp that cannot control corpses or living people cannot be used, which means Sun and Moon cannot be used En Mass. 3. The location of the fight is not in his favour. 4. Hisoka has full knowledge of his plan. Chrollo’s alternative plan other than stealing the treasure and gaining a monstrous ability, is if he comes across Hisoka, he has placed Sun and Moon on himself and is ready to take out Hisoka using Suicide Bombing
I think the cloyster turning to its original form the tracker could only mean two things: first, it ran out of nen already since Hinrigh mentioned few chapters ago that there is a time limit of his Biohazard ability or Hinrigh forcibly turn it into its original form since he discovered that a Phantom Troupe may kill Lynch. I think its highly the number 1 reason.
Chollo is definitely not looking for Hisoka, he is looking for a nen user who has not yet appeared, this is implied by him looking for someone on the phone in the sky arena right before finding Hisoka which also implies that he is already looking For this user since before, no Hisoka, Chrollo is definitely not looking for Kurapika either, because he thinks about easing the conditions for the cell phone's ability to make things easier to find, so there is no reason to look like someone like Kurapika or less like kurapika, since he already knows kurapika
I forgot what he did about the tracker, the last thing I remember is that he swallowed It before teleporting to the "killing room" How could this help Morena or put the troupe in trouble?
I think this is just the result of his ability ending. He said that his ability would run out in 2 hours, and so much BS has been happening in the blackwhale that it's feasible the time is just up
Why would Chrollo need an ability to track Hisoka in Heavens Arena when the fight was orchestrated, a battle between two floor masters has to be decided between the two.
If he’s looking for a match using that cellphone ability it’s probably to find his replacement. He’s ok with dying because someone will take his place and lead a new version of the phantom troupe.
Chrollo’s plan should have involved hiring mfers who don’t struggle with officer level chimera ants. I love Chrollo but at least half of the troupe I can just see getting washed in this arc
Chrollo saying it was the same at heavens arena means it didn’t answer and said the person was too far. Now finally it’s close enough to the person. What pre-requisites did Chrollo put into the phone to search for his “perfect match”?
@@micahmcfadden8082 And Im not saying Chrollo is weak, It’s just that he has nothing that can overpower or overwhelm him. He might but it’s not gonna matter Kurapika has that hisoka drive.
@@kushkringle6977 are u dumb or ignorant we dont know what powers chrollo has stores in his book kurapika strategy is obvious to chrollo tho chain jail
@@twiss9341 both of these are insane yet feasible possibilites. It's crazy to think he'd be able to smith or at the very least put a sword together from pieces he found, and also it's crazy that it was conjured considering how he's a enhancer and conjuration is one of the two nen types they have the least affinity for
Feitan and phinks are the more in danger right now cuz they still got the tracktor. If dogman or someone else finds the machine in the heily hideout they can easily pinpoint the 2's location and make a trap of some sort.
Chrollo is definitely not looking for Kurapika either, because he thinks about easing the conditions for the cell phone's ability to make things easier to find, so there is no reason to look like someone like Kurapika or less like kurapika, since he already knows kurapika
Never was a fan of the Troupe or how Togashi makes almost all of his characters Morally grey. My hope is that Kurapika pulls the rope-a-dope and gets all of them cornered and neutralized.
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Chrollo can't beat Hisoka without a lot of prep time. He won the first time because it was a duel that he planned for and because Hisoka was willing to humor him and fight him in Heaven's Arena. Current Hisoka is stronger because of the post-mortem nen boost and he won't fight fairly any more. He is hunting the Troupe not dueling them, if it looks like he is at a disadvantage he won't attack, he told Machi he won't let them choose the time and place any more.
I think he could’ve beaten Hisoka (pre post mortem nen) without prep time in Heaven’s Arena. I think it was that he wanted a plan that had a 99.99% success rate to defeat him. Ain’t no telling how strong post mortem nen Hisoka is tho.
Absolutely false hisoka claimed that he loves when he’s opponent come up with a plan and he loves to destroy those plans and watch their opponent crumble but only this time chrollo low diffed and outsmarted him , the reason why chrollo choose heavens arena was to kill hisoka once for all so he never comes back and bothers the troupe again , hisoka had as much as prep time as chrollo so what’s your argument on saying Chrollo can’t beat hisoka is absolutely dogshit
@@BrothaSchwifty I don’t understand how anyone could assume Chrollo would still win against Hisoka without prep-time. That’s literally what he ended to assure his victory. This would imply without prep time that he would flat out lose in a direct 1v1. He probably would lose badly to the point Hisoka was entirely wrong about his assumptions of Chrollo.
@@BlueCosmo369 I personally don’t think it’s fair to assume just because Chrollo chose to prep for his first battle with Hisoka means that without it, he would lose a 1 on 1 fight pre mortem or post mortem because we don’t know how big of a gap in power there was/is between them before or after Hisoka died
It’s very possible that Chrollo was stronger pre mortem but post mortem Hisoka is on his level now and it’s also possible that Chrollo was stronger pre mortem but Hisoka has surpassed him post mortem.
Nah chrollo clears
I hope to live enough to see this animated in the future
@fabiodx2 me to not gonna lie it’s gonna be the best antagonist vs antagonist of all time of all anime
Chrolla”Let’s make this a fight to the death “
Hisoka”Fine by me”
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nobunaga confronting the mafia without a sword right after lynch got killed is......as worrying as things get
If he dies without using his sword, that would be lame. So idk lol
Even the fact that Nobunaga is now by himself is tough
The Spider are almost all by themselves with more and more people wanting to kill them
@@ianlindblom6579 knowing togashi it would be insane if the phantom troupe really show why they are who they are and win against the mafia but then lose to Hisoka anyways
But he has his sword? He didn’t go further to avoid letting go of it
@FellOff well prolly see the justice burro after the transmitter is discovered
Why would be looking for Hisoka while saying he's needs to prepare to fight him but he's ready to bump into him still ....
@@kevinrotsaert6292 to avoid him be needs to know where he is first, bonolenov didn't tell chrollo hisoka is in tier 1 because chrollo only instructed to wait for him, i think chrollo tries to find hisoka 'just in case' his earlier prediction of him being in tier 1 is wrong
I also think the phone call is Chrollo hunting for the greatest skill to steal and he believes that’s what he needs to kill the clown lol
Hisoka is just as smart as Chrollo he wouldn’t fall for the same trick twice. Chrollo will have to fight a completely different fight this time around.
He's not looking for Hisoka with that phone lmao. He's looking for any ability user that can permanently kill Hisoka. Camilla's post-mortem cat nen can do this, for example. "Even if I die"
Agree to disagree 🫡
Right, Chrollo is attempting to evade Hisoka until he accomplishes his mission and created an alternative plan in case he runs into Hisoka, so it is not Hisoka that he is searching for unless he is using that phone to avoid Hisoka.
@Dd-is3sr Now you're on the right train of thought
@@Dynamic-Weeb Definitely not trying to find hisoka with the phone.
There is a reason he mentions it’s a risk going to the upper tiers. He is looking for an ability to kill hisoka before actually fighting him. The risk is running into hisoka before he steals that new ability he is looking for with the phone. he knows if hisoka finds him at this moment, chrollo would die. that’s why he mentions the spider will continue without him. (Seems to have a contingency plan for his troupe upon his death).
Only reason he would use the phone to find hisoka, would be to stay out of his way, but that makes no sense. If that’s the case why would he go up the tiers as he is doing. He is moving toward the target that the phone is looking for. If he is trying to avoid hisoka why not go down to other tiers, and get farther away from hisoka, instead of moving towards him with the risk of running into him.
Also, he can’t use the same method he used at heaven’s arena, he doesn’t have shalnark and Kortopis ability anymore.
That’s why hisoka precisely went after them first, so chrollo cant use that same method again. Hence the reason he is looking for a strong/rare ability that will kill hisoka. And he is using the phone to find someone that he can steal that new ability from.
I was thinking prolly a hei-Ly member, or a zodiac, or knowing togashi a completely new character wouldn’t be out of the norm here 😂
TELL ME TOGASHI CAN'T DRAW
I don’t think Chrollo was looking for Hisoka at Heaven’s Arena. After Chrollo got back his nen, one of them had to have picked a day for the match. Maybe he used the phone to help steal Order Stamp? I don’t remember if Chrollo disclosed how he got it
4:57 if anyone is confused i'll say what i think is happening. Hinrigh said that his ability would only stay active for 2 hours, so it turning back means the time's up. You can see that it's beeping, wich sooner or later is going to be heard by one of the heil-ly. That could lead to them using it to make a trap
I think it has to do with him finding out a troupe member killed lynch.
Maybe he deactivated it on purpose so the hei-Ly can find the device and set up a trap for phinks and feitan. Basically he is betraying the troupe. Since bono killed his mafia colleague.
Togashi is cooking up a fierce meal and it's almost time to dish up 🤌🔥🔥
Chrollo was looking for hisoka at heavens arena but is now probably looking for someone else. Hes just commenting on the fact that being unable to find someone with the phone was the same thing that happened at heavens arenaz
10:43 he doesnt have koro and shals ability which that strategy hinges on thats why hisoka killed them
I think the phone is looking for a person with a skill to kill Hisoka. Thats what Chrollo is looking for
Very disappointed with the chapter analysis. You made a lot of mistakes. Chrollo cannot use the exact same method, you know why?
1. It failed to work the last time
2. Chrollo has lost Gallary Fake, and Black Voice, which means he cannot create puppets, Which means Order stamp that cannot control corpses or living people cannot be used, which means Sun and Moon cannot be used En Mass.
3. The location of the fight is not in his favour.
4. Hisoka has full knowledge of his plan.
Chrollo’s alternative plan other than stealing the treasure and gaining a monstrous ability, is if he comes across Hisoka, he has placed Sun and Moon on himself and is ready to take out Hisoka using Suicide Bombing
5. Hisoka is probably stronger thanks to post mortem nen.
@ not just stronger….far stronger
Apologies, HxH has alot of details to remember and sometimes they slip the mind, But that's why I got you guys to help me out 🫡
@@Dynamic-WeebThx bro
@@strongest32 in the chapter he is revived, he melts his foot to jump fast at shalnark. So hes basically gear 4 luffy
You forgot something. You said Chrollo can do the same thing here he did in heavens arena. He can’t. He doesn’t have Shalnark and Korotopi’s ability
4:55 i think he showed the clam as a way to gauge the time remember henrigh said it would lose its nen in about two hours
The tracker transformed back because it has a time limit. Hinrigh mentioned it before.
Support done here ❤❤❤
Hisoka and Kurapika will wreck the Spiders for sure
I think the cloyster turning to its original form the tracker could only mean two things: first, it ran out of nen already since Hinrigh mentioned few chapters ago that there is a time limit of his Biohazard ability or Hinrigh forcibly turn it into its original form since he discovered that a Phantom Troupe may kill Lynch. I think its highly the number 1 reason.
he mentioned it would only last 2 hours before reverting back to the tracker way back when it was first place so that the reason
He already knows Lynch is dead tho
Chollo is definitely not looking for Hisoka, he is looking for a nen user who has not yet appeared, this is implied by him looking for someone on the phone in the sky arena right before finding Hisoka which also implies that he is already looking For this user since before, no Hisoka, Chrollo is definitely not looking for Kurapika either, because he thinks about easing the conditions for the cell phone's ability to make things easier to find, so there is no reason to look like someone like Kurapika or less like kurapika, since he already knows kurapika
I think it disable the nen ability on the tracker on purpose for the enemy to spot it out
For the Clam Hinrigh probably betrayed them and turned it back into the tracker so Morenas crew can find it
I forgot what he did about the tracker, the last thing I remember is that he swallowed It before teleporting to the "killing room"
How could this help Morena or put the troupe in trouble?
@Steevy84 he left it in the room as you saw in the latest chapter
@@Jagerwasmymain Yeah, but It is his tracker, so I don't see how this will cause trouble to the troupe???
I think this is just the result of his ability ending. He said that his ability would run out in 2 hours, and so much BS has been happening in the blackwhale that it's feasible the time is just up
Tea the nen just wore off its been 2 hours that was togashi letting us kno how much time had passed
Bruh, Chrollo cant use the same method to kill Hisoka because Gallery Fake is gone
Why would Chrollo need an ability to track Hisoka in Heavens Arena when the fight was orchestrated, a battle between two floor masters has to be decided between the two.
Honestly not sure, But based on what he says within the whale I think he's tracking him to be aware of his location to avoid an early run in
If he’s looking for a match using that cellphone ability it’s probably to find his replacement. He’s ok with dying because someone will take his place and lead a new version of the phantom troupe.
Karapika gonna be the new leader
@@travisminer9087 without any brainwashing what you're saying is absurd
@travisminer9087 that would be 🔥🔥
@@bigl.e.x8697 No that would be stupid
Chrollo’s plan should have involved hiring mfers who don’t struggle with officer level chimera ants.
I love Chrollo but at least half of the troupe I can just see getting washed in this arc
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@@Chickencounselor YOOO ❤️🙏🏻
haven’t even read hxh only watched the anime😂 i’m just here to support the Weeb video 🫡
I think the clam changing is a time limit on the change or he undid the change when he found out lynch died
Chrollo saying it was the same at heavens arena means it didn’t answer and said the person was too far. Now finally it’s close enough to the person. What pre-requisites did Chrollo put into the phone to search for his “perfect match”?
chrollo is the goat in hunter x hunter. just wanna say that
Kurapika would embarrass Chrollo
@@kushkringle6977u buggin
@@micahmcfadden8082 don’t even start Kurapika is Chrollo’s goku
@@micahmcfadden8082 And Im not saying Chrollo is weak, It’s just that he has nothing that can overpower or overwhelm him. He might but it’s not gonna matter Kurapika has that hisoka drive.
@@kushkringle6977 are u dumb or ignorant we dont know what powers chrollo has stores in his book kurapika strategy is obvious to chrollo tho chain jail
Bonolonov cant be Lynch because Bonolonov can only impersonate people he has spent a lot of time with
nobunaga confronting the mafia without a sword right after lynch got killed is......a sign
he has a sword still since he seem to have conjured one so he at least has a weapon
@@Alkhemia8 I more so got that Nobunaga literally black smithed the sword himself, rather than conjure from thin air
@@twiss9341 both of these are insane yet feasible possibilites. It's crazy to think he'd be able to smith or at the very least put a sword together from pieces he found, and also it's crazy that it was conjured considering how he's a enhancer and conjuration is one of the two nen types they have the least affinity for
This is very hard to cover all those points in a few minutes.
There are so many plausible theories/possibilities.
Tell me about it 🥲😂
Tagashi pulling inspo from the italian mafia?
Goat dropped 🤤🤤
Nah, all the Trupe and Chrollo will die in a way (isoka) or the other mafia / prince tesserich
Feitan and phinks are the more in danger right now cuz they still got the tracktor. If dogman or someone else finds the machine in the heily hideout they can easily pinpoint the 2's location and make a trap of some sort.
Maybe chrolo is looking for kurapika?
Why? Kurapika would just kill him
Chrollo is definitely not looking for Kurapika either, because he thinks about easing the conditions for the cell phone's ability to make things easier to find, so there is no reason to look like someone like Kurapika or less like kurapika, since he already knows kurapika
Chrollo should copy Morena's contagion then kiss Hisoka... The end ❤❤❤❤❤
Never was a fan of the Troupe or how Togashi makes almost all of his characters Morally grey. My hope is that Kurapika pulls the rope-a-dope and gets all of them cornered and neutralized.
If him and Feitan fight ima enjoy seeing the troupe being destroyed. If feitan dies it’ll be ecstasy🙏🙏🙏