I have Autism, Asperger's to be exact, and it's something that affects me on a daily basis. As a kid, I struggle in school with simple comprehension skills and never asked for help, things just didn't click with me like they would most people, though that may have something to do with the education system as well but I digress. Fast forward to me as a 23 year old adult who barely graduated high school with 3 summers worth of summer school, and now I feel like I can't handle the world. A lot of self doubt, confusion, stress over basic tasks, It's embarrassing. I have to have my mom make doctor's appointments for me because I don't understand what I'm doing. Hell, I'm downright depressed and nearly suicidal i feel so helpless. I can't stand these Autistic groups preaching about how "We have Autism, and we don't want it any other way", this is not something to strive for, these are not fun little quirks, this is a disorder that is dangerous to live with, especially if you're being bullied because that will stick to you ad affect the way you see other people, malicious intent or not. The Autistic people who advocate for it, who most likely have a more severe case of Autism, are ignorant of the whole situation because they don't realize how much it really affects them. Bottom line being, don't tell people that Autism is a wonderful thing, it is nothing to be proud of, and I sincerely hope that future developments can make it so Autism can be prevented in future children, because I don't want to see parent's and children suffer from it. ...Thank you for coming to my TED Talk
From one Autistic guy to another, I dont think autism is a wonderful thing and I dont think it is a bad thing either. I think what sucks with Autism is not the autism itself but how there is alot of ignorance towards it. You are autistic, it is not easy but it is not hopeless either. We all learn at different speeds, I can do things that I didnt think I could do when I was younger socially. It can be a shitty world sometimes, and sometimes its too much. But don't feel sorry for yourself for being autistic, don't do that to yourself because that's what the bullies want, and it is a part of you. It doesn't define you, it isn't separate from you, it is a part of you. I agree autistic people shouldn't be put on a pedestal for being autistic, but I dont think it is fair to look at autism as a burden or a disease either. How you view your autism will have an effect on how you see yourself, if you think you got a superpower, you are at risk of becoming an arrogant, if you think you've got a disease, you are at risk of becoming bitter and resentful. I had "friends" who wanted their autism cured, and they were some of the meanest kids in my school to other autistic kids because of it. Don't let other people's cruelty rule over your life, sorry for all the paragraphs
My youngest daughter has stage 1 autism (fka asbergers). She's 3 and has been receiving ABA therapy for a year. I'm terrified that she won't grow to be a functioning member of society. Are you able to work? Have relationships? I can't imagine anyone thinking autism is a good thing.
The sad thing is that we all know vaccines don't cause autism but even if they did you should still take them because of the horrible diseases they prevent.
"As best as we can tell, that's what we know now..." is how real scientists talk because they know that science is always advancing knowledge. Anyone who speaks in absolutes is probably not a scientist. Just because he doesn't speak in absolutes that doesn't mean he isn't confident about his data. I'm in medical education and this is how scientists talk.
@@johndillinger1918 Pretty dogmatic words JD. I assume dogmatism is what you dislike about some who engage in science, but do you see it in yourself? Steve Jobs was a pretty smart guy, he went the nonWestern medicine route and regretted it. Good luck with prying open that mind of yours to believe that maybe there's a more complex truth out there in the world.
@d I didn't say the sun is not there all the time. FYI, for the less-than-bright, "the sun rises" is what we with a grammar school education call a metaphor. When people say the sun rises they are saying the Earth spins toward the sun until it is visible. You SERIOUSLY didn't understand this? But your inability to see the forest for the twig results in your missing the actual point of the metaphor.
Unfortunately joe has gone off the deep end a little bit. He made progress through his life, he no longer believes the moon landing is fake, etc., but he's dying for there to be evidence that vaccines cause autism and there is zero evidence of that. Its fine to keep exploring, but there are people who are saying, as a mater of fact, vaccines cause autism. There are people saying without evidence trump won the election. There are people saying the earth is 6,000 years old. Debating people who say outlandish things is an exercise in futility.
Next up: "Mathematician Says Two Plus Two Equals Four." 2023 Edit: I did get all four shots, two original, plus two booster. And maybe I shouldn't have. And maybe my original comment was wrong. I'm keeping it up because I think it's a good thing to display when I might have made a mistake. I'm open-minded. I honestly don't know the answer. Either way, I apologize for my arrogance.
10 + 10 = 100 in a binary numeral system. Fun fact, in the same numeral system 10 + 1 = 11. (for those only familiar with decimal numeral systems, this just states that 2 + 2 = 4 and that 2 + 2 = 3 if it was formulated according to a decimal numeral system.) This could actually be a very interesting broadcast to those interested in mathematics.
The one in a million risk number he is referring to comes from the national vaccine injury compensation program. Only a very small percentage of vaccine injuries are ever awarded any compensation. So he is very selectively and deceptively using that statistic to make you think that's the number of people who actually get injured or die. This man is straight up gaslighting the public. Check the VAERS data.
9/10 Joe knows the question is stupid or already knows the answer, hes asking for the audience. Thats why hes so popular because he always asks the question that most people dont.
@@mareksumguy1887 The majority of them, actually. Regression for some is instantaneous, for others it's a matter of hours or days. I've personally watched and listened to the testimony of hundreds of parents. I'd be happy to post at least one link for you. Vaxxed TV is a great resource. So is the Dr. Suzanne Humphries channel. Here is a link to one of the most heart-wrenching stories of vaccine-injury probably ever. ua-cam.com/video/GPHZFQFpZrY/v-deo.html
I've had all the vaccines since birth, including recurring MMR shots...and i'm still alive. That being said, transparency should top priority. Zero liability rests upon the vaccine manufacturers. That should be a little bit strange to everyone. Its one thing to point fingers at whatever comes your way, but to actually ask questions and pursue safety is another.
Shark P I agree with you, however im not an expert. Its evident that vaccines contain ingredients that can do harm to people. My health is far from perfect, and that’s why I’ve tried to search for the truth behind natural and “man-made” cures, as much as I can. The medical establishment has failed me countless times. My story, and the stories of my friends and family (including many who have died) are a testament to the fact that our world is far from ideal, and that we are failing each other. A lot needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
Ashley Nicole i just turned 31 under quarantine lol. Yes it seems its setting in with the younger generations far more than before. So many contributing factors though...excessive pesticides, environmental toxins, antibiotics, sugar/carbs, bad fats, emf...the list is endless. Its a shame we have to even worry about vaccines with everything else that’s dangerous.
@@YxYzYx You are soooo right! Many autistics are nonverbal, banging their heads against a wall, self-injuring themselves, still in diapers as teens or adults, having to be fed as teens, and the list goes on! Anyone with Asperger's can say that autism is a blessing and that they are leading fulfilling lives but tell this to someone who classic autism or tell this to their parents!! Neurodiversity is great but we have to make a distinction between neurodiversity and true DISABILITY. We cannot accept that being injured by a vaccine and ending up with classic autism is ok. IT IS NOT OK.
@@mariai.g.r.2786 There is no "neurodiversity", it's a manufactured term by pc idiots. There are people with mental disabilities and disorders, deal with it.
@@krTog1 Do you know what neurodiversity means? There is a difference between a painter and a theoretical physicist... I hate pc principles but you do realize not everyone is like you?
Surprisingly, it's not too bad. But I guess it's depressing that I have a such a low bar. Unfortunately, a certain amount of people will never change their minds even after their kids get sick or die.
looking forward to all the shills like yourself saying flu shots that give people the flu anyway are totally fine. and that it's cool everyone is becoming dependent on Pfizer for their immune system. you're obviously totally cool with having to buy your health from them. you're such a shill, you haven't even considered an alternative option. it's just "flu shots that give people the flu are good and everyone else is crazy." ok, enjoy the flu and your 100 upvotes from fellow self-deluded shills.
As someone who has grown up with a little sister on the spectrum, I can tell you first-hand that the reason why we are seeing more diagnoses is because we have learning disability centers over-diagnosing so they can sell you their therapy program. One center gave us a learning disability diagnosis and another gave us a definite Autism. That’s a problem.
It's quite possible for both to be accurate dx's. Now I do NOT know anything more than what you've said, but it's possible. The real reasons dx's have been going up are many fold. First is the rework of the dx itself. Classic autism, Aspers, and PDD-NOS were all combined into the autistic spectrum in the DSM-5. The other is better diagnostics in general. Also the stigma associated with autism has lessened quite a bit over the last few decades making both professionals and clients more willing to consider such a diagnosis. Also the old guard from when they though autism was strictly young males is slowly going away.
Those who say vaccines don't cause Autism are paid 90% of the media are under big pharma so people must stop being stupid imagine a criminal asked to investigate his crimes will he or she put himself in jail so asking scientists to check whether vaccines cause autism is like that bro
@@brandonkruse6412 lol one true fact you can't deny if a child has autism and is vaccinated lol do you people ignore reality until your kid can't move and starts eating the couch
"Ask your doctor for more painkillers and antidepressants. Side effects may include pain, depression and death." Good plan listening to priests in white coats ... good plan, sheep. Those white priests sure do a good job making ppl healthier and healthier and living longer and longer and definitely aren't pimped out by pharma .... NOT! Anyway, keep up the obedience to corporations that makes billions off our tax dollars at the expense of our health and death. Keep listening to the TV instead of common sense ... you know like if you eat meds and it messes u up, maybe you should STOP TAKING IT instead of let me call my doctor to see if projectile diahhrea is a good thing.
not really saying much Jack black is rather dim. all he has to offer is cheekyness and eyebrows with a heaping dash of oh my god pay attention to only me because i had a bad childhood and love all the attention i get from my fans and the extra tail for someone like me isnt bad either. but your right on a smarter jack black would you let this creep watch your kids i wouldnt
The reason why more people are diagnosed with autism is because of our understanding of the issue has improved not because of vaccinations. Once they come up with a reliable test to find the genetic markers for autism then it’ll finally put the matter to rest. It’ll become like most other tests preformed on pregnant women like the Down syndrome test is currently done today.
Exactly, "back in the day" diagnosis was limited to the observation of behaviors and was a pretty blunt instrument. As we gained greater knowledge and understood the nuances of ASD better those folks who would have been missed previously or given an incorrect diagnosis are identified and can get the services they may need.
@kamikazininjaelf77 Babies get the MMR vaccine though so i don't see the fuss? .. personally i've missed all my meningitis jabs and never had an issue.... maybe serious vaccines i can understand but simple flu jabs etc i don't see the point.
my brother was born with meningococcal, almost died straight away.. the hospital gave him a bunch of vaccines. unsure what exact ones, but they said he was unlikely to survive. he was absolutely mad, did what ever he wanted could tell him otherwise... he lived to the age of 22, I miss you brother..
I think that the reason it seems like more people have autism is because more people are being diagnosed. I used to have aspergers syndrome but now according to the DSM 5 I'm autistic and classified as having high functioning autism.
Exactly, there're so many things being reclassified as thpes of autism, and also people who would've never been diagnosed as autistic in the past that are now under the envelope of autism. I actually believe at some point in the future they'll have to redefine this a bit further as we'll find pretty much everyone on the planet has something about them that could cause them to be classified as autistic.
1 in 35 in New Jersey, 23 of them are boys. Increase of 43% after mandating the flu shot for vaxx in the following four yrs. Vaccines Do cause autism, every time not, but they certainly are one major cause. They need to repeal the NCVIA, no more economic immunity for the many injuries and deaths. More die from the vaccine than measles, Merck in litigation for falsifying efficacy on mumps vaccine, and most doctors refuse rubella vaccine themselves.
6:00 this goes for everything "offensive". It needs to be discussed, get over it. Kids get a fever after shots, it's normal. That's the change for one night lmao
When people say autism is "genetic," it's a half truth. 98% of kids with autism have the MTHFR gene mutation. It would take a book to write about what exactly that is, but just know that it's a genetic mutation that a lot of people have, but never find out about. The MTHFR is an enzyme that helps the body remove toxins. For people who have the MTHFR mutation, it makes it more difficult to remove toxins from the body. So when children with this mutation get vaccinations, they can't get rid of all the aluminum and the crap that 'normal' people can rid themselves of. So while it's true, like this scientist says, that autism is "genetic," that's only partly true. They have a genetic predisposition for autism, but it's the actual vaccinations that cause the brain damage.
Since Vaccines aren't "prescribed" the companies making them are able to operate in a Legal Grey Area. That's why there are literally separate Laws and Courts that deal with Vaccine-related cases. www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/vaccine-programoffice-special-masters The Chemical that is most likely to be causing the problems people label as Autism/Aspergers is found in Rocket Fuel. It is called Perchlorate . www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15871231 It is consistently found in water, food, breastmilk and baby formula. I don't think it is a mere coincidence that Dr. Asperger himself was first noticing signs of what we now call Autism shortly after the proliferation of the V2 Rockets in Germany. Compounds in Rocket Fuel are unbelievably common in Milk and Human Breastmilk in particular. When infants are exposed to this chemical they are known to have neural-development issues, problems with Iodide uptake (Iodide deficiency causes thyroid issues) and limited thyroid function. One of the biggest indicators of a child having Autism is a weakened Thyroid in the Mother. Perchlorate exposure ticks all of the boxes most people associate with "vaccine-related Autism".
@@nutelina Very serious...look up the areas that caught Dr. Asperger's attention...they were areas right by the first Rocket Tests. Perchlorate was found in 81 of 82 Breast Milk samples collected when investigating the spread of that chemical. All of its negative health effects line up with Autism...from Thyroid issues, to iodide inhibition to neural developmental difficulties.
I really don't know what's the reasoning of people like you. How can you pretend to learn stuff like this by yourself on UA-cam and Facebook. You're just assuming 99.9% of all doctors, who have been studying for long years, are liars or dumb. And you are more knowledgeable than them with your amateur research. Do you also pretend to know more about cars than car engineers?
TheMattiePoo you need to define what a normal person is then. Some people who have autism you’d never know they had autism until they told you. Which brings us back to the case at hand, define normal?
@@drpureinsanity Someone who exists in life without supplementation. That means people who don't need physical assistance, ongoing therapy, or a medicinal regimen to help their body function in a regulated and orderly fashion.
Monsieur Pickles “conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.” That’s the definition of normal, which brings me to what I was implying. I was implying that anyone can be considered abnormal if they do not conform to society’s norm. But thanks for the attempt, but it was a rhetorical question.
@@drpureinsanity I was stating the medical litmus for what is considered normal. There's really no need to be a dick when someone is trying to be helpful.
Joe I am not an antivaxxer, my son is almost 18 and is on the autism spectrum and like many families we saw a change around the 18month vaccines. Our son who was tested in his early childhood as an early infant through an outstanding program in Minnesota and had been reaching developmental roadmarks until he was tested around 2yrs old. He had fallen back, somehow his testing showed he had lost development. I often feel kind of offended when people get into kind of a self rightous talking about anti vaxx. I have a now almost adult child with autism and I must admit there are times that I wonder what if, but I think that this is where the trap is. As a parent of a child with autism you can get caught up in "what If" thinking. What if so many things and many of us wonder what if these vaccines had not been done. Anyway this "What if" thinking leaves people open to all sorts of things and some of the things people wonder are dangerous. I feel that I am glad I am past the what if thinking, but if I had another child I am not as certain about vaccines. I worked for an agency that worked with at risk early childhood 0-3yrs old and my job was to inform parents and doctors about getting children evaluated earlier because the outcomes for these at risk children are so much better the earlier the delay/delays are found. There is a common thing that happens that is right around the time children have their vaccines and it is speech and the first signs of delays are often noticed and doctors have had an old school way of looking at things because they used to almost never referr babies for developmental screenings before the age of 3. So yet again a parent will remember they just had vaccines. They never think if I had checked my child's development prior to noticing delays. Joe we did find patterns in our data among military families and among children born in areas of high pollution which often is related to families living in poverty. Why these patterns existed we did not have a mandate to study, but there was very definitive data. I did not care for the way your esteemed guest talked with that typical arrogance that why would we talk to them and just add credence to these obviously false ideas. Seems like a terrible way to look at an issue.
He's a scientist, it's not arrogance. The guy can only speak of what he knows has been tested or discovered. The guest is actually in the same boat as you, with his own personal experience with his daughter, but he's choosing to look at the facts
He's a snake freak look at him I wouldn't trust this goblin around a pottedp lant let alone children. At least Joe knows what he is now better late then never.
Thank you Joe Rogan, for asking critical question with the goal of getting to the truth instead of what 'feels right'. You are my role-model when it comes to asking questions!
@ryan revolt Lol, please enlighten us with your knowledge of immunology, PLR, TLRs, C-type lectin-like receptors, and all the other terms you've never heard of.
@ryan revolt Lol, you really think highly of yourself don't you? LMAO. Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. Appeal to futility fallacy in full effect. We can't prevent 100% of diseases, therefore we shouldn't try. "Vaccine science" which can confer 99% immunity "flies out the window." The simple presence of anti-bodies doesn't guarantee immunity. Obvious example is HIV anti-bodies.
@ryan revolt Admitted no such thing. You obviously can't read. My "claims" come from the CDC genius. Do you have polio? Would explain a lot, but don't think you do.
On autism it has been noted that if the rise in prevalence was just due to better diagnosis then the true rate of autism among 60+ year olds should be the same as it is for 5 year olds today i.e. 1 in 50.
While your point is logical on the surface, it overlooks several key considerations related to diagnosing autism in different age groups. The emphasis on early diagnosis is primarily to facilitate early intervention. As autism symptoms tend to emerge in early childhood, the chance of improving developmental outcomes is best when the disorder is detected early. Current resources for diagnosis and treatment are heavily skewed towards pediatric cases due to the effectiveness of early interventions. The under-diagnosis of autism in older adults is a recognized issue and doesn't contradict the rise in prevalence among children. It's a reflection of shifting understanding, changing diagnostic practices, and different focus in healthcare resources rather than a contradiction in prevalence rates.
I honestly don’t hear a lot of “vaccines cause autism” arguments. Once or twice maybe. But what I hear are more arguments like “vaccines have harmful compounds in them to stop certain viruses that can be avoided anyway through proper nutriton from the child and mother before birth and during breast feeding”. I’m interested in hearing both sides before making my final decision.
Breastfeeding isn't a substitute for vaccines. While it's true in many mammals that milk contains antibodies, it isn't so in humans. Baby is protected for about 6 months from the residual antibodies that can go through the placenta, but not by breastfeeding. Furthermore the antigens that are contained in breastmilk are IgA antibodies that protect mucous membranes, not IgG antibodies that circulate in the blood (some of which you may not even have anymore, like the anti-TB IgGs, the BCG vaccine for instance is given to children and not adults, because it is effective in children and not adults, and TB is far worse for kids than adults). The only way for baby to get those is for them is to get their shots. Nutrition for momma and baby are very important, including pre-natal vitamins for mom and a vit K injection at birth for baby (it isn't at all painful - at least not compared to going through the vaginal canal during childbirth), as well as a multivitamin during the first 2 years of life (2 years is the cut-off period for preventing cognitive development issues linked to denutrition in infants). There are many small choices we agonize about for our children, but this is a question with a clear cut answer.
why chooose a user name ? I’ll definitively look that info over. Thanks. To be fair though, I never actually said that breast feeding is a ‘substitute’ for anything. I just think there are a lot of things we do to ourselves that cause us to be susceptible to many viruses and conditions that couldn’t have been avoided, had we been given the proper nutrition from birth. From viruses like Crohn’s disease all the way down to our eyesight... from what I’ve looked into, it all starts with your mother’s nutrition and then yours, and the gut is the most crucial organ that I believe we as a society take for granted these days.
Personally i see that with calling someone a certain label, dissorder, etc, people will usually stigmatize it unfortionatly. Its usually ignorance on most peoples parts. But say if i tell someone i deal with mental health issues, people can usually tend to think im crazy
That's literally my main problem! Well that and my personal choices but scientific studies suggest that a that a person's genetics could play a part in that. E.G. your parents being addicts could lead to you being an addict.
Suzanne Humphries, md. She breaks down vaccines per "ingredient" to tell you what each thing does. The problem, if I remember, was caused after the introduction of glutomate, which helps the aluminum pass the blood-gut, then blood-brain barrier. Prior to the glutamate, the aluminum didn't get to the brain, so the mmr caused joint pain instead, which has seized with the new ingredient. I'm going off memory now and am no doctor. Check out Suzanne Humphries, md.
@@paulrickett7564 I hope he does. But again not everyone has the courage and fearlessness of Del Bigtree! I keep saying that ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE TRIUMPH OF EVIL IS THAT GOOD MEN DO NOTHING!
I got a letter from a Pharmaceutical Company Today. They invited my child to participate in clinical trials for Vaccine Testing........................................................said no person ever.
Here’s my problem what studies should we actually trust if any at all ? Seems like every study has a goal based on funding normally. How should we know who to trust ?
You work the science from the ground up (validating the 3 parts of an experiment), rather than listening to the experts top down. An experiment must include an independent variable (an observed phenomenon; either vaccines or genetics in this case), a dependent variable (autism in this case), and a null hypothesis (varying the vaccines/genetics and causing no effect) for the experiment to be valid, until validated I would just call it a test. Multiple tests can work as controls to prove your independent variable is actually independent. (Not really possible if both vaccine or genetics hypothesis are shown to cause autism only sometimes; making neither controlled and rather just a correlation.) An actual experiment (not just a correlative test) will show a cause (where a correlation has multiple causes) and effect relationship by varying the independent variable and affecting the dependent variable.
In my state this type of support for individuals with disabilities was voted out... we will have hundreds of individuals in our area without a place to go as a result. It was a great thing in WA.
Arsie Jackson three babies walked into a bar, and one had three shots, while the others watched and laughed. The one who had three shots said: "why did the chicken cross the road?" the other one replied "because he was too fat to fly!" as the third baby chucked him self to death. The bar tender face palmed, while proclaiming: "what has the world come to!"
@@arsiejackson2225 I won't say they're a joke, but my son got the MMR and had mumps within three days. I have two nephews who were speaking and recognizing letters. They got their MMR and regressed drastically to the point that they are in therapy a few days a week. Maybe there's something in my wife's family that causes their offspring to react adversely.
They can cause children to be brain damaged. 2 children at a doctors surgery near me were severely brain damaged after a vaccine. It took years before the doctors admitted what had happened. A cleaner had unplugged the fridge overnight where the vaccines were stored. The little boy died in the end and the other is brain dead. It wasn’t the vaccine itself but it’s shocking the fridge wasn’t on a dedicated supply with an over temperature alarm. The doctors all left the surgery one by one as they all knew what had happened but wouldn’t admit it to the parents until years later in court.
I have asperger's its an issue and it gives me some difficulties in life along with other health issues but I know I'm still better off than a lot of people in the world its a disorder yes but I'm not ashamed of it.
The reason we consider autism a disorder is because those with autism, especially those with severe autism, have a lot of co-occurring issues that affect their quality of life. It’s not that we don’t accept or love them as who they are. It’s that we want them to be happy and healthy. I think this whole thing about not calling it a disorder is actually the worst form of gaslighting. Trying to normalize it so that the skyrocketing numbers don’t seem so bad. It’s not normal for a kid to not be able to go outside because just the sound of outside causes sever distress. It’s not normal to feel so dysregulated you bang your head against a wall for relief. The average life expectancy is significantly shorter for those with autism, 36 years old. 30% of people with autism have epilepsy compared to 2% of the general population. 40% of people with autism are non verbal. We wouldn’t say just accept someone with diabetes and don’t say they have a disorder then not treat it. So why do that with autism. It’s evil in my opinion.
Here's the other side... STAFFORDSHIRE, England -In early December 2017, Dr. Chris Exley of Keele University in England and his colleagues published a paper that for the first time looked at the brain tissue of subjects with autism to determine the level of aluminum (note: they spell “aluminum” as “aluminium” in the United Kingdom) found within their brain tissue. For anyone trying to convince the world that “the science is settled and vaccines don’t cause autism,” the study’s findings are deeply contradictory to that statement. In a blog post written by Professor Exley on the day his study was published, he explained the groundbreaking results:
@@eliasross4576 Leave it up to these guys to tout a few isolated wackos as "heroes and rebels trying to uncover the huge scientific conspiracy that somehow manages to save and prolong millions of lives every day and yet is out to kill us for a profit." I blame the shitty education system for the lack of scientific literacy.
@WeZ - " The problem I have with this paper is its deep experimental flaws and data analysis that nonetheless should not have passed through the peer-review filter.”" Exley's peers do not accept that this was a proper scientific study. The guy is a snake oil salesman
At some point in the interview, Hotez states that the only things in vaccines are water/saline and the antigen. Thats basically all you need to know about this guy.
Wow! That is a big FAT lie! Water/saline and the antigen?????????????????????????? This shows that this guy is either a liar or he doesn't know a thing about what goes in vaccines!!
@@chrissyp930 Take a look at what this "director" knows in comparison with the guy in the bowtie. THE VACCINE SAFETY PROJECT ua-cam.com/video/zt-CZN48rR8/v-deo.html After watching it let me know who would you trust with the health of your children.
Chris Purcell what about the hundreds and hundreds of doctors who think they are dangerous and problematic? Why would you prefer to take the other side? Because it sounds good?
@@mikegipson847 i'm also a scientist. pubmed is not a journal. when i go to pubmed and paste in your search, i get nothing. maybe you can link to the paper you're talking about?
Ya what doctors have you went to that have a fucking clue what they are talking about? You have to see 15 just to have chance at a decent diagnosis. Experts?
I'll bet maelstrom of horror is a great descriptor for you in your underwear holding a family-size bag of Cheetos and making the "rock and roll" sign with an orange hand.
What a retarded argument , just because he is a bit overweight makes all his academic and scientific credentials Invalid? Sounds like Anthony is a brother who finished his education at 16 and is now a personal trainer .....
Can you address the hundreds of thousands of parents who have had the same experience: Kid changed after vaccines. I know a couple of parents personally who experienced this. Who is telling the truth, the scientist who work for multibillion-dollar business, or parents who LOVE their children?
@@yissssss no but the best part is instead of bringing in Thompson before Congress the bring in a 18 year old kid. Oh let's not forget about the woman that use to work for Merck that also went before the CDC tell them how dangerous vaccines are. Thompson hasn't been debunked. You're misinformed Dan
@@mariae2781 No, he has. If you think vaccines cause autism at this point, you're an idiot who doesn't understand the scientific process. You're basically a flat earther.
@@troweltheory oh another asshole. No I'm saving my kids from the perfect storm. Pollutants, round ups and vaccines are the perfect storm you idiot. Do the research
@@anemiapwns1 As long as the debate is not about pro vs anti vax but instead about pro vs anti mercury (from 4 different sources...), and pro vs anti inflammation (also from multiple sources) and how those two things - coupled with the BS Yank court protections barring all civil suits against vaccine manufacturers explains exactly how we ended up in this confusing predicament. { See the DECENT of Sotomayor w/ Ginsberg; SCOTUS: Bruesewitz v. Wyeth, 2011.} - - - ... That, plus the fact most people are not scientists, and **most really smart scientists* ( *and bystanders* ) *are nervous as hell about speaking or writing about any of it.**
@@seipjere Well put. Aluminum is also a cause for concern. Brain exams done on those who had Autism and Alzheimers show elevated levels of aluminum. We had a fast one pulled on us just like saying fluoridating our water is good. Heavy metals in the body are toxic no matter what the amount. This is just bad "science".
I've found some indications SIDS can be caused by leaking volatile gasses from bedding materials. They studied this in New Zealand which used to have higher than average SIDS. They found this was perhaps caused by leaking gasses from their bedding materials because they use sheepskins for baby beds in New Zealand (sheep country) more than other countries. These volatiles can overwhelm the system of a very young child causing muscle paralysis, but are harmless to adults, much like the tiny amounts botox in honey affect babies but not adults. SIDS chances may increase immediately after vaccination because vaccines can cause a fever and that extra body heat warms up the bedding materials more and this releases more volatile compounds on top of the child being physically weaker as it mounts an immune response to the vaccine aggravants.
@@lunchbag_larry just because for something to suddenly die and we have no idea seems suspicious to me. I've had several friends where their babies needed rushed to the hospital later that day because they stopped breathing. Everyone is different and it's hard to know who would have a allergic reaction to one of the chemicals in this vaccine. So I just decided to wait to my child is at a age where he has a mesurable intelligence and is perfectly healthy then try one at a time. Older they can tell you when something doesn't feel right or are having a hard time breathing or something. My child was pretty secluded I live in a very small town and always had a stay at home parent so no pre schools and such. That was just my worry.
But there is zero evidence to support that. Could a fever from a vaccination maybe increase the chances for a night because of the excessive heat, maybe but there is no clear correlation there. A child is more likely to die of SIDS because they were sleeping on their stomach or with a blanket. There is also a now evidence based, suspected genetic portion of SIDS where there is a mutated receptor causing issues with serotonin and the babies' abilities to gasp for air when they need to.
How about live vaccines vs whatever they put in them (lies). Corvelva proved it about Glaxokline. Merke getting sued by US gov for decade of lies. Live vaccines work. CDC and big pharma are corrupt.
@stevehustlehard why are you screaming at me about it?? im well aware of that lol....i responded to the OP question about adjuvants not being discussed. They were briefly mentioned in the video & seemingly dismissed.....which is what I said in my 1st reply
@stevehustlehard Since it's a "Fact!" can you please direct me to a source? There are so many adjuvants to pick from, it shouldn't be a problem to direct me to something. Also keep in mind that you can't assume this based only on animal studies. Findings in animal models are often not 1:1 appl. to humans.
Oh, your health care system is screwed. Your government has allowed insane markup on medication and cost of treatments. But the uk has a vaccination schedule and a national health service. Fun fact! We don't routinely vaccinate for chicken pox in UK. NICE just doesn't consider it necessary and therefore its a saving. If the other vaccines were unnecessary, best believe they wouldn't be available on NHS.
Yep. Indeed the diagnosis itself isn't much older and has changed with our growing knowledge significantly. Indeed a LOT of older folk are now seeking and gaining dx's in thier 40's 50's and older. Sir Anthony Hopkins got his at about age 70. Not sure how old Dan Akroyd or Daryl Hanah were when they got theirs.
idk what that is.. now im curious. EDIT: yyeah this guys so full of shit, or hes just plain ignorant and clueless because of who hes likely surrounded by.
@@AJD09FB ah he does bring it up, but he always prefaces the opposition with titles like "anti-vaccine lobby" which is more of a play on words than an actual thing.
@@nickmagrick7702 The anti-vaccine lobby is as real as any other political-action committee lobbying government for action on an issue. He is not playing with words in relation to the opponents of vaccination having organised groups which exist solely to lobby politicians to back their cause, and to spread falsehoods about vaccination to the general public. There is no reasonable opposition to vaccination: it works, it has been proven to work, the risks are *vastly* outweighed by the benefits (by a factor of at least a million to one), herd immunity is essential unless we want another plague, and vaccination should be mandatory for anyone who wishes to interact with wider society - especially if we wish to protect those with the weakest immune systems, and those unable to receive a vaccination (not by choice, but biology). Parents who refuse to vaccinate should be made to see children dying of easily preventable diseases, and explain themselves to the parents of those children that die every year after being exposed by an unvaccinated classmate, etc.
With all due respect to your guest Joe, I don’t like to think of myself as a paraplegic, BUT I AM. It is what it is. That’s the problem with people these days. Sorry but facts don’t care about your feelings.
I wish Joe Rogan would interview Del Bigtree or Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. about this sometime. There's a lot more nuance to this subject than the mainstream media is willing to admit.
Interesting in his beginnings Joe has a different position about vaccines and after he got popularity it turns around and interview mostly encouraging vaccines . ua-cam.com/video/lSibPHi84W0/v-deo.html
Curtis Holt Why would he have on Del Bigtree? He is an entirely self-serving moron, he has no scientific credentials and makes more money than any ‘vaccine shill’ peddling horse shit for the credulous and ill informed - enough for you?
Because when you have actually done research and studies, you know that the reality is that trying to have a truly controlled experimemt with a sample population without any potential points of bias, is literally impossible. Thus in science it is extremely rare that you will ever say anything with absolute certainty. So he says, "as far as we can tell."
what about the mother who cured her son's autism by chelating him in the sauna? Sounds to me like she's a good scientist and you are following a bunch of shills who are there to obscure the truth and somehow you've believed that they're making a good faith effort of uncovering the truth. You've been fooled and I imagine that your mind is too closed to entertain the possibility that I'm right about you.
@@lebergerdesphotons4565 No- I've got a science masters and I think that the peer review system is pretty good. You're picked apart actually, and rightly so. Oddly to be a vegan influencer, you just need to have a good understanding of face tune and filters. Sadly, veganism is a good idea, and mouth breather morons make it seem like a cult of basic bitches and bastards with ego problems.
@@punkybrewstar83 No- I've got a science masters and I think that the peer review system is pretty good. Yes, I think it is too in every case except the cases in which big money wants to screw it up. The documentation on that is pretty extensive. They get caught regularly. You're picked apart actually, and rightly so. I"m picked apart? what do you mean? Oddly to be a vegan influencer, you just need to have a good understanding of face tune and filters. What is a vegan influencer? What is face tune? Sadly, veganism is a good idea, When did we move from vaccines to veganism? and mouth breather morons make it seem like a cult of basic bitches and bastards with ego problems. How is this a response to my comment regarding the mother who cured her son's autism in the sauna? le berger des photons punkybrewstar83
@@punkybrewstar83 If you are actually being sarcastic, I'm sorry, but the stupidity bar is so low, I struggle to recognise it when people are I'm not getting how anything you say is a response to my above comment. I'm going to paste it here so you can tell me if I'm mistaken about which of my comments you're reacting to: what about the mother who cured her son's autism by chelating him in the sauna? Sounds to me like she's a good scientist and you are following a bunch of shills who are there to obscure the truth and somehow you've believed that they're making a good faith effort of uncovering the truth. You've been fooled
Mothers are advised to get vaccinated during pregnancy for all sorts of stuff and everyone that is around the mother closely. They can’t say this doesn’t affect the baby. Cmon guys. This is a joke.
You're an idiot dude. They literally tell pregnant women to not change anything about what they do. Some doctors tell smoking mothers to keep smoking even because quitting cold turkey causes more stress to their body than smoking would. Don't spout nonsense, you fuck. They don't vaccinate expecting mothers you fucking knob.
^ 1st comment is right. Plus no one is saying what you do to the mother doesnt translate to the kid. Theyre saying vaccines definitely do not cause autism.
What mother's do you know that have been given vaccinations????? I've had three children and never would any of my gynecologists have let anyone inject me with anything... other than maybe pain meds while delivering..but guess what you don't actually have to even take those if you think your tough enough to handle the birthing process without them... I ended up with a urinary tract infection with my middle child and even that was a procedure and a half because they didn't want to medicate if they didn't have to so I ended up drinking pure cranberry juice for a week before they finally put me on a low dose penicillin ( because apparently even sulfur was a no no!!!) Let's play your game though and let's pretend that a certain percentage of the population is susceptible to autism through vaccinations...now let's weigh that against 100% of the population being susceptible to polo, measles and small pox without vaccinations... I'm sorry if you think that it makes me an asshole to say that I'm not overly concerned about you maybe being right because the main populous can't catch autism... it's not fucking contagious. My children range in ages of 20, 12, and 8 and during their educational careers between them they've only ever encountered 4- 5 children with autism..3 of those individuals were on a high functioning spectrum so given the that they attended schools ranging from 500- 1500 give or take depending on wether or not it was elementary, junior, or high school I'd say that if you're correct the percentage is very very small and I don't think that we should be making decisions to head back to the pestilence ages just because you're afraid your child MIGHT end up either autistic or interacting with a child whose autistic.. personally my children can play with their autistic friends ( again if they had them because...guess what??? the percentage of autistic children they encounter is small) all day everyday but I've got no time for polo or measles thanks.
@@mindygirard9932 the antivaxx movements biggest claim is that thimerosal the preservative additive to vaccines causes autism. To quell those concerns they stopped using it years ago. Yet the highly educated antivaxxers keep screaming about it.
Bring Del Bigtree on its only fair to show the well researched opposing argument. You did good with Tim and Twitter but everyone in the room was on the left....give us a real opposing view on this one. Del is on UA-cam look him up.
Joe is the biggest podcast on UA-cam and maintains that he is open minded. The vaccine debate is huge in the US and around the world. I myself have a 7 month old son and have done around 15 months of research on the subject and this guy has left many things out of the conversation. I have 2 friends with vaccine injured children. One was awarded money from the vaccine court so there are legitimate concerns out there that ppl want to hear about.
@@Wittynametag What ? In imagination land ? Autistic people are as neurologically diverse as bald people are follicularly diverse Having an actual scientist talking in tumblerisams is a sad day for humanity
@@Wittynametag Are you mad, or are you arguing with yore self ? What retards identify as is unimportant As doctors and scientists our job is to identify the disease/syndrome and find a cure or treatment for it My feelings or anyone else's are as unimportant as if someone getting offended over the fact that 2+2 is 4
@@Wittynametag Now you are moving the goal post, the guy says that thees groups identify neurologically atypical(fancy word for special) so far everything he said is right but than he says that calling them mentally ill or subnormal is not OK at witch point Joe says something like "but they do have a problem" the guy says well they feel they are different but not inferior (or something like that) at witch Joe says but to me it sounds like people trying to control what I say because they don't like it and the guy finally sheepishly drops it TLDR: The guy tries to spin the tumblr idea that retards are special gets confronted drops the point, near the end says his daughter who is -retarded- autistic can barely handle a 4 hour cashier job at free will
@@Wittynametag I direct you to my original comment and my every other comment I very clearly made a statement against the self diagnosed snowflakes that the guy tries to champion(especially given hi is suppose to be a scientist), I even specifically pointed it out But you ware busy being patronizing/condescending to pay attention or understand what I was saying And yes I am a scientist-I am an MD with an ongoing specialization in neurophysiology
Well it doesn't take a lot of brainpower to come up with something. eg. Alternatives to vaccines, like alternative medicin that magicaly cure everything. Funny if you think how useless suplements alone are a multibillion dollar industrie while vaccines have almost no marge. No wonder Pharmacompanies tend to neglect vaccines more and more while investing in these sectors where regulation and cost are slim. To be honest i don't think most of the anti vaxxers are in for the greed, some might profilate themself, some might get a living out of it as beeing the anti vaxxer youtuber etc. but i think most of them are just ignorant. It's a movement based on stupidity and emotions if you wanna simplified it.
@@MrHunapu I am not against vaccines per se, having been in the service I have a like a two page list of all vaccines innoculations. My problem is that babies get so many all at once at birth. imagine a brand new healthy baby and you just inject it with all these chemicals. I don't feel okay with that. It's similar to people who buy subarus or any sportscar for that matter. Engineers spend thousands of hours doing research and development fine tuning everything for optimal performance and some guy decides he knows more than the engineers. Then he tries to do his own tuning and mods. Next thing you know you have a brand new sports car on the lemon lot. It's not the best analogy but that is how I reason. I know doctors should be experts in their field but most of these are the same people who help create and opioid epidemic. I do not have children of my own. I do have a nephew who is autistic and I have a best friend of mine who's son is also autistic. So it is a very personal issue to me.
Some sell their snake oil. Some sell "homeopathic vaccines." Some are in it for attention. Many are anti-vax because they want the feeling of having special knowledge, the "I know something you don't know" phenomenon. Others adopt anti-vaccination as a way of telling authorities (schools, the government, grandparents of their kids) "You can't make me!" It's a mixed bag of motivations, none of which are based on sound science.
@@senorstrangelov I can only imagine what an impact it must've had on you and your family and friends family finding out those kids have autism. It is hard to see things like that and not want to blame something or someone for it. You have my deepest sympathy on this. Blaming vaccines, however, is not going to help us here. The initial research demonstrating the so called link between vaccines and autism has been disproved countless of times. It has also been proven that the doctor who did the initial research willingly introduced a bias in his research and can't practice medicine anymore. Ever since, he's been touring spreading this lie around the world. How do we know this link isn't there? Because we track pretty much EVERYTHING that happens to our children after they receive any type of vaccine. Do they get a mild fever? It's documented. Do they throw up? It's documented. Does nothing at all happen? It's documented. Do they develop autism? It's documented. The important thing is, we also do this for kids who don't get their vaccines. With this information collected from millions of kids you can start looking at what happens to our kids when they receive their shots. So we know which percentage of kids develop autism and how many of those did or did not receive vaccines. Turns out, time and again, there is zero correlation between vaccines and autism. All of this information is publicly available. The research and the numbers are out there. This research is done in many countries, and everywhere the results are the same. I sit in awe sometimes realizing how much money keeps being burned disproving a lie, because the lie keeps on living. I know there are a lot of trust issues toward any type of authority these days. Especially towards doctors. And some of it with good reason. However, in this case, we are taking things too far. Much peace and love to you senor :)
14:05 “As best you can tell” Joe hits an important point here. A responsible, conscientious scientist is not going to say definitively, without any doubt what I’m saying is 100% true, if he/she doesn’t have the evidence to support that (and any subject that requires experiments to support or disprove a hypothesis will never be 100% provable). This is because they know how science and statistics work, and they’re aware enough of all sorts of cognitive and systemic biases in the scientific world that better evidence can emerge later which disproves what they’re saying (or what happens most of the time: actually affirms their current conclusions, but for slightly different reasons than first assumed). The problem with people who are less educated is that they lack the necessary knowledge, but compensate entirely with lack of self-criticism, and think they know for sure, with no way of backing that up (nor feeling the need). This is exacerbated by the horrible state of education in America, mixed with the ridiculous way kids are raised, resulting in some sort of confidence that has no basis in reality. But what do you expect, if you constantly tell kids they’re unique, they’re a miracle, they’re the most important thing in the world, the sky is the limit, they can become anything they ever wanted, and they get an award for coming last. Sprinkle that with a layer of American exceptionalism, and you have the worst combination of personal traits imaginable: stupidity and arrogance. Hence Trump as president.
Yeah but they don't make these assertions lightly, or go out in such a public fashion talking about it. Flat-Earthers have been trying to use this kind of "broad strokes" argument for years. Well, that and "NASA lies" apparently about everything.
Ryan S If you’re actually responding to me, then I think you’ve completely missed my point. That’s probably my fault though - I must have not made my point entirely clear.
@@KryzMasta No I'm the idiot for not reading the whole thing. I especially agree with the last part about the arguably toxic mixture that has created undeserved and unabashed arrogance. All marketing in the US is like that. "You deserve more/better, pay us and we'll make you better than everyone else."
Lol Trump was a better choice than Billary. If you think that sack of shit would be doing better than Trump, then you also probably got autism from a vaccine.
Ryan S I’m getting slightly teary-eyed about the fact that we’re having a constructive and respectful discussion here in the swamp of the UA-cam comment section. :D
is it because they developed a new more effective way to vaccinate against those diseases, or is it because the mmr vaccine has completely wiped out those diseases in japan?
Well.. I’ve had MMR twice now once as I entered the Marine Corps, the other as I entered my job with the state department to renew it. And let me tell you, getting that vaccine was just one of the most traumatic thing ever, I thought my previous autism would become super autism.. I’ve had over probably 20 vaccines in my life including smallpox, this whole movement is fucking garbage. And it’s sad that there is now a “debate” on vaccinations. That’s like saying there is a debate on “flat earth” no there is stupid.. and reality.
I can see where you're coming from, and while I think that currently using MMR is a lot better than outbreaks of measles, mumps etc. I'd still prefer 3 seperate jabs as opposed to the MMR, which Japan stopped using because 1 in about 900 kids were developing permanent adverse effects. It's completely in the realm of possibility, you've probably never been struck by lightning or won a million dollars either, but that certainly doesn't mean that they don't both happen. The difference in flat earth is that we have centuries of evidence and study that says otherwise, while the evidence and study on MMR shows that even though it might not be a very alarming number, and it might not necessarily be autism as we define it, some weird stuff is happening to a small number of people after receiving this shot.
@@Darkgalaga There's a big difference between what you just said and the anti vax "movement" you're talking about improving scientific medical practices for effective use. Anything can always be improved. What is being put out there, is that vaccinations not only don't work, they are also dangerous all the time. It's like common sense has gone out the window because of the platform of social media. There's centuries of medical proof for vaccinations as well, never the less thanks for a reasonable viewpoint which seems rare on this topic.
@@jeffreyfassnacht4991 Oh, absolutely. And I know I probably came off as "anti-vax" which, I promise, I am not. Matter of fact, something about Japan is that, while they might be using 3 seperate shots now to less side effects, they're more expensive and more people end up only getting 1 or 2 of them as opposed to all 3. Surprising to nobody this means that small pocket outbreaks of all 3 of them happen semi-regularly.
@@GaryIV lol what a scientist didn't say one scientific thing the whole interview. Just listen to his answers if that's a person that makes Vaccines then I'll rather drink bleach.
I've had many parents tell me during their child's IEP assessments that they saw a change in their childs behavior after getting a series of shots around 2 years of age, shortly there after comes the autism diagnosis. For this guy to say "a lot of things happen when a child gets the mmr vaccine, they cry" thats not what parents are saying. Parent know that something has changed in their childs personality and ability to communicate.
Mitochondria are the powerhouses of a cell..
I thought that was midichlorians?! ;)
taking Step 1 in 3 days, you just saved me man
Might-o-chondria, ftfy
wow ... this meme still alive ???
How about you mitochondria your own business ☝🏼
I have Autism, Asperger's to be exact, and it's something that affects me on a daily basis. As a kid, I struggle in school with simple comprehension skills and never asked for help, things just didn't click with me like they would most people, though that may have something to do with the education system as well but I digress.
Fast forward to me as a 23 year old adult who barely graduated high school with 3 summers worth of summer school, and now I feel like I can't handle the world. A lot of self doubt, confusion, stress over basic tasks, It's embarrassing. I have to have my mom make doctor's appointments for me because I don't understand what I'm doing. Hell, I'm downright depressed and nearly suicidal i feel so helpless.
I can't stand these Autistic groups preaching about how "We have Autism, and we don't want it any other way", this is not something to strive for, these are not fun little quirks, this is a disorder that is dangerous to live with, especially if you're being bullied because that will stick to you ad affect the way you see other people, malicious intent or not. The Autistic people who advocate for it, who most likely have a more severe case of Autism, are ignorant of the whole situation because they don't realize how much it really affects them.
Bottom line being, don't tell people that Autism is a wonderful thing, it is nothing to be proud of, and I sincerely hope that future developments can make it so Autism can be prevented in future children, because I don't want to see parent's and children suffer from it.
...Thank you for coming to my TED Talk
As a fellow autist, we all know the only cure is a couple grams of lead
@@sjakierulez I couldn't have a happy, decent, and normal life because of it.
From one Autistic guy to another, I dont think autism is a wonderful thing and I dont think it is a bad thing either.
I think what sucks with Autism is not the autism itself but how there is alot of ignorance towards it. You are autistic, it is not easy but it is not hopeless either.
We all learn at different speeds, I can do things that I didnt think I could do when I was younger socially.
It can be a shitty world sometimes, and sometimes its too much. But don't feel sorry for yourself for being autistic, don't do that to yourself because that's what the bullies want, and it is a part of you.
It doesn't define you, it isn't separate from you, it is a part of you. I agree autistic people shouldn't be put on a pedestal for being autistic, but I dont think it is fair to look at autism as a burden or a disease either. How you view your autism will have an effect on how you see yourself, if you think you got a superpower, you are at risk of becoming an arrogant, if you think you've got a disease, you are at risk of becoming bitter and resentful.
I had "friends" who wanted their autism cured, and they were some of the meanest kids in my school to other autistic kids because of it.
Don't let other people's cruelty rule over your life, sorry for all the paragraphs
Interesting take, very well written.
My youngest daughter has stage 1 autism (fka asbergers). She's 3 and has been receiving ABA therapy for a year. I'm terrified that she won't grow to be a functioning member of society.
Are you able to work? Have relationships? I can't imagine anyone thinking autism is a good thing.
The story goes that rogan had to shackle eddie bravo in his basement when he hear this guy was gonna be on the show
Lmfao
You mean shekel.
Who knew Joe Rogan and R Kelly had so much in common
The sad thing is that we all know vaccines don't cause autism but even if they did you should still take them because of the horrible diseases they prevent.
@@KenjaTimu In fact, they are so good for you that the government has to mandate people take take them by law. yum yum
Joe: "Is it true DMT cure Autism?"
It causes DeMenTia
@@hater3669 someone just got triggered
@@kennyknight6951 I am out of my mind.
Yes
Yes, it can.
"As best as we can tell, that's what we know now..." is how real scientists talk because they know that science is always advancing knowledge. Anyone who speaks in absolutes is probably not a scientist. Just because he doesn't speak in absolutes that doesn't mean he isn't confident about his data. I'm in medical education and this is how scientists talk.
You’re an embarrassment to your fellow aspies like me
100%... truly anyone who speaks in absolutes and anyone who believes something 100% is not a real scientist. Very good point.
@@johndillinger1918 Pretty dogmatic words JD. I assume dogmatism is what you dislike about some who engage in science, but do you see it in yourself? Steve Jobs was a pretty smart guy, he went the nonWestern medicine route and regretted it. Good luck with prying open that mind of yours to believe that maybe there's a more complex truth out there in the world.
The sun rises every day. Suck it up, honey.
@d I didn't say the sun is not there all the time. FYI, for the less-than-bright, "the sun rises" is what we with a grammar school education call a metaphor. When people say the sun rises they are saying the Earth spins toward the sun until it is visible. You SERIOUSLY didn't understand this? But your inability to see the forest for the twig results in your missing the actual point of the metaphor.
I bet the comment section will be full of rational, polite comments that are made by people who are medical experts in this subject
Of course. This IS, after all, a UA-cam comments section.🙂
But it is a political issue, why would medical experts, who have a conflict of interest, be concerned about vaccines not being mandatory?
I'm an expert in YT comments so by your definition you have to listen to me
He was so respectful to this guy. There is no reason for this dude not to come back. And this is actually very informative
He will come back. He won’t “ debate “ the unqualified moron RFK Jr on science.
Unfortunately joe has gone off the deep end a little bit. He made progress through his life, he no longer believes the moon landing is fake, etc., but he's dying for there to be evidence that vaccines cause autism and there is zero evidence of that. Its fine to keep exploring, but there are people who are saying, as a mater of fact, vaccines cause autism. There are people saying without evidence trump won the election. There are people saying the earth is 6,000 years old. Debating people who say outlandish things is an exercise in futility.
Yea, Joe changed. For the worst TBH
@@pablomg91 What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?
He doesn't want to come back because RFK has facts and figures that prove otherwise.
Next up: "Mathematician Says Two Plus Two Equals Four." 2023 Edit: I did get all four shots, two original, plus two booster. And maybe I shouldn't have. And maybe my original comment was wrong. I'm keeping it up because I think it's a good thing to display when I might have made a mistake. I'm open-minded. I honestly don't know the answer. Either way, I apologize for my arrogance.
10 + 10 = 100 in a binary numeral system. Fun fact, in the same numeral system 10 + 1 = 11.
(for those only familiar with decimal numeral systems, this just states that 2 + 2 = 4 and that 2 + 2 = 3 if it was formulated according to a decimal numeral system.)
This could actually be a very interesting broadcast to those interested in mathematics.
Sorry for the typo, where it says '2 + 2 = 3' it should have been '2 + 1 = 3' .
Chemists will disagree. 🧪
If i define 2 as arbitrary, any number can come out
This is actually a good analogy.
All people with common sense: 2 + 2 = 4
Anti-vaxxers: 2 + 2 = 22
Doctor - "Issues are extremely rare. 1 in a million might get a shoulder injury."
Joe - "A shoulder injury? Is that common?
Doctor - "...No"
Fucking Joe, gotta love him
The one in a million risk number he is referring to comes from the national vaccine injury compensation program. Only a very small percentage of vaccine injuries are ever awarded any compensation. So he is very selectively and deceptively using that statistic to make you think that's the number of people who actually get injured or die. This man is straight up gaslighting the public. Check the VAERS data.
@@wbpound So how many of those million kids started showing signs of autism shortly after getting the shot??
9/10 Joe knows the question is stupid or already knows the answer, hes asking for the audience. Thats why hes so popular because he always asks the question that most people dont.
@@mareksumguy1887 The majority of them, actually. Regression for some is instantaneous, for others it's a matter of hours or days. I've personally watched and listened to the testimony of hundreds of parents. I'd be happy to post at least one link for you. Vaxxed TV is a great resource. So is the Dr. Suzanne Humphries channel. Here is a link to one of the most heart-wrenching stories of vaccine-injury probably ever.
ua-cam.com/video/GPHZFQFpZrY/v-deo.html
I've had all the vaccines since birth, including recurring MMR shots...and i'm still alive. That being said, transparency should top priority. Zero liability rests upon the vaccine manufacturers. That should be a little bit strange to everyone. Its one thing to point fingers at whatever comes your way, but to actually ask questions and pursue safety is another.
Your comment goes against the status quo. Good luck.
Shark P I agree with you, however im not an expert. Its evident that vaccines contain ingredients that can do harm to people. My health is far from perfect, and that’s why I’ve tried to search for the truth behind natural and “man-made” cures, as much as I can. The medical establishment has failed me countless times. My story, and the stories of my friends and family (including many who have died) are a testament to the fact that our world is far from ideal, and that we are failing each other. A lot needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
The question is how old are you? It only really started to affect children after the early 2000s.
Ashley Nicole i just turned 31 under quarantine lol. Yes it seems its setting in with the younger generations far more than before. So many contributing factors though...excessive pesticides, environmental toxins, antibiotics, sugar/carbs, bad fats, emf...the list is endless. Its a shame we have to even worry about vaccines with everything else that’s dangerous.
@@sirefromtheshire very very true.
Jack Black's dad just dropped some serious knowledge.
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Dad? You must not have seen Jack Black since he was last in the public eye. He's about the age as this guy now.
More like Jack Black's nerdy little brother.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Who wouldn't want a job where they can talk to an expert about subjects they find interesting.
@@YxYzYx You are soooo right! Many autistics are nonverbal, banging their heads against a wall, self-injuring themselves, still in diapers as teens or adults, having to be fed as teens, and the list goes on! Anyone with Asperger's can say that autism is a blessing and that they are leading fulfilling lives but tell this to someone who classic autism or tell this to their parents!! Neurodiversity is great but we have to make a distinction between neurodiversity and true DISABILITY. We cannot accept that being injured by a vaccine and ending up with classic autism is ok. IT IS NOT OK.
@@mariai.g.r.2786 There is no "neurodiversity", it's a manufactured term by pc idiots. There are people with mental disabilities and disorders, deal with it.
Absolutely. That would be my dream job
@@krTog1 Do you know what neurodiversity means? There is a difference between a painter and a theoretical physicist... I hate pc principles but you do realize not everyone is like you?
@@mariai.g.r.2786 it’s not okay because it doesn’t happen. It’s never happened. Because it physically can’t. Get your head out of your ass.
God, Al Madrigal looks like he hasn’t aged well since his last time on the podcast.
Bobby Mulligan hahahahahahahahha
Bobby Mulligan underrated comment
Dudes beat to fuck
Looking forward to this comment section turning into an absolute car crash in roughly 6 hours
This sentence gave me autism
I was thinking ten minutes lol.
Lol the dislikes
Surprisingly, it's not too bad. But I guess it's depressing that I have a such a low bar. Unfortunately, a certain amount of people will never change their minds even after their kids get sick or die.
looking forward to all the shills like yourself saying flu shots that give people the flu anyway are totally fine. and that it's cool everyone is becoming dependent on Pfizer for their immune system. you're obviously totally cool with having to buy your health from them. you're such a shill, you haven't even considered an alternative option. it's just "flu shots that give people the flu are good and everyone else is crazy." ok, enjoy the flu and your 100 upvotes from fellow self-deluded shills.
Spectrum?! In my day they would have just thrown him in the army and had him play the trumpet
I bet you still have your trumpet dont you
@@ta3544 Skin Flute
@@ta3544 funniest shit I've heard all day😂
Play the bugle
@@XGCHEAVYFIRE1 yes thank you, I should credit family guy for this joke btw
As someone who has grown up with a little sister on the spectrum, I can tell you first-hand that the reason why we are seeing more diagnoses is because we have learning disability centers over-diagnosing so they can sell you their therapy program. One center gave us a learning disability diagnosis and another gave us a definite Autism. That’s a problem.
It's quite possible for both to be accurate dx's. Now I do NOT know anything more than what you've said, but it's possible.
The real reasons dx's have been going up are many fold. First is the rework of the dx itself. Classic autism, Aspers, and PDD-NOS were all combined into the autistic spectrum in the DSM-5. The other is better diagnostics in general. Also the stigma associated with autism has lessened quite a bit over the last few decades making both professionals and clients more willing to consider such a diagnosis. Also the old guard from when they though autism was strictly young males is slowly going away.
Those who say vaccines don't cause Autism are paid 90% of the media are under big pharma so people must stop being stupid imagine a criminal asked to investigate his crimes will he or she put himself in jail so asking scientists to check whether vaccines cause autism is like that bro
@@lunganimsomi5142 that might be the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a long time.
@@brandonkruse6412 lol one true fact you can't deny if a child has autism and is vaccinated lol do you people ignore reality until your kid can't move and starts eating the couch
Number are rising everywhere? Healthcare is free in some places. It’s because afabs never used to get diagnosed so often. Do your research.
I like how this guy takes hold of the conversation a bit. Joe has a bad habit of derailing people with unnecessary interjections.
Ha I just ran into him trying to do just that
Joe never had him answer his question about vaccines causing encephalitis. Hoetz skirted around it! He knows it does.
@@ronaalexander2983 😂😂😂Pathetic
@@ronaalexander2983 You're stupid.
"I heard a crazy story that...."
If Jack Black & Tai Lopez had a 70 year old lovechild.
70????
David cross
Jack Black and Sam Allardyce 😂
Jack blacks uncle
This looks just like the guy tied up in a wheel chair from naked gun 3 🤣
High school biologists experts please share your medical opinions
alex jones says colloidal silver cures autism
"Ask your doctor for more painkillers and antidepressants. Side effects may include pain, depression and death."
Good plan listening to priests in white coats ... good plan, sheep. Those white priests sure do a good job making ppl healthier and healthier and living longer and longer and definitely aren't pimped out by pharma .... NOT!
Anyway, keep up the obedience to corporations that makes billions off our tax dollars at the expense of our health and death. Keep listening to the TV instead of common sense ... you know like if you eat meds and it messes u up, maybe you should STOP TAKING IT instead of let me call my doctor to see if projectile diahhrea is a good thing.
Highschool biology says get vaccinated.
2 year community college expert here
PhD in UA-cam Commentary, M.S. Google keyword searching, B.S. in Wikipedia sciences
Sidenote: You dont have to vaxx your child on their schedule. You can delay your child receiving vaccines after stages of development.
sure, but that leaves your kid vulnerable to preventable diseases for longer
@@eeeaten Debunked.
@@GlossaME by who? alex jones?
@@eeeaten No dear. Doctors. Want names?
@@GlossaME sure
Looks like an older, smarter Jack Black.
Is it a tribute?
I'm not picking up on the "smart" thing. He looks like a hobo.
cecilyt006 more sophisticated
Jack blacks dad was a dr i think lol
not really saying much Jack black is rather dim. all he has to offer is cheekyness and eyebrows with a heaping dash of oh my god pay attention to only me because i had a bad childhood and love all the attention i get from my fans and the extra tail for someone like me isnt bad either. but your right on a smarter jack black would you let this creep watch your kids i wouldnt
The reason why more people are diagnosed with autism is because of our understanding of the issue has improved not because of vaccinations. Once they come up with a reliable test to find the genetic markers for autism then it’ll finally put the matter to rest. It’ll become like most other tests preformed on pregnant women like the Down syndrome test is currently done today.
Exactly, "back in the day" diagnosis was limited to the observation of behaviors and was a pretty blunt instrument. As we gained greater knowledge and understood the nuances of ASD better those folks who would have been missed previously or given an incorrect diagnosis are identified and can get the services they may need.
In other news, the sky is blue.
It's not blue it only seems to be blue ! This guy also "seems" to know what he is saying!
ua-cam.com/video/a3EHrjfLXaw/v-deo.html
nellymanson your qualifications?? Lol
@@wadebriggs1322 , I'm a qualified asshole detector, and you are reading 10/10 on the asshole meter!..... Asshole.
@@wadebriggs1322, keep posting, somebody will watch one of you videos.....ONE DAY!
Never trust a guy wearing a bowtie.
Are you calling Les Nessman a liar?
@@denrec61 A paid liar!
with a perve mustache to boot.
John Stewart destroyed tucker Carson with that remark now he doesn’t wear bold ties anymore
But people people with vaccines don't have anything to worry about so why worry?
@kamikazininjaelf77 Babies get the MMR vaccine though so i don't see the fuss? .. personally i've missed all my meningitis jabs and never had an issue.... maybe serious vaccines i can understand but simple flu jabs etc i don't see the point.
@kamikazininjaelf77 what about the babies with autoimmune problems that are not identified yet?
my brother was born with meningococcal, almost died straight away.. the hospital gave him a bunch of vaccines. unsure what exact ones, but they said he was unlikely to survive. he was absolutely mad, did what ever he wanted could tell him otherwise... he lived to the age of 22, I miss you brother..
Sorry to hear that my friend
I think that the reason it seems like more people have autism is because more people are being diagnosed. I used to have aspergers syndrome but now according to the DSM 5 I'm autistic and classified as having high functioning autism.
AshurIX very good point I think people definitely don’t look at those stats.
Exactly, there're so many things being reclassified as thpes of autism, and also people who would've never been diagnosed as autistic in the past that are now under the envelope of autism. I actually believe at some point in the future they'll have to redefine this a bit further as we'll find pretty much everyone on the planet has something about them that could cause them to be classified as autistic.
i used to think that, and no doubt it is partly true but sever autism is definitely on the rise.
1 in 35 in New Jersey, 23 of them are boys. Increase of 43% after mandating the flu shot for vaxx in the following four yrs. Vaccines Do cause autism, every time not, but they certainly are one major cause. They need to repeal the NCVIA, no more economic immunity for the many injuries and deaths. More die from the vaccine than measles, Merck in litigation for falsifying efficacy on mumps vaccine, and most doctors refuse rubella vaccine themselves.
And Hotez is a liar on vaccine injuries. ua-cam.com/video/C8VICAxOkYk/v-deo.html
6:00 this goes for everything "offensive". It needs to be discussed, get over it.
Kids get a fever after shots, it's normal. That's the change for one night lmao
Joe: "Now, if we don't know what causes autism... "
Scientist: "We do."
Joe: "We do "
Scientist: "Weelll, we're getting there.". 🤔
Any opinions on why some kids regress shortly after the parents say they received a shots.
Jon .D because the vaccines obviously
Coincidence theory is all the pharma shills use to explain such occurrences
Inferior genes. Back in the day autistic kids would just be labeled as "slow" now it is more understood and thus diagnosed.
When people say autism is "genetic," it's a half truth. 98% of kids with autism have the MTHFR gene mutation. It would take a book to write about what exactly that is, but just know that it's a genetic mutation that a lot of people have, but never find out about. The MTHFR is an enzyme that helps the body remove toxins. For people who have the MTHFR mutation, it makes it more difficult to remove toxins from the body. So when children with this mutation get vaccinations, they can't get rid of all the aluminum and the crap that 'normal' people can rid themselves of. So while it's true, like this scientist says, that autism is "genetic," that's only partly true. They have a genetic predisposition for autism, but it's the actual vaccinations that cause the brain damage.
@@midsouthexplorers7702 be sure to rub some essential oils on your polio bro
He’s says “I don’t think we really know “. When a medical expert says that, u need to listen.
What😂😂 he clearly stated they didn’t
Please explain why is there no control group in vaccine studies?
Since Vaccines aren't "prescribed" the companies making them are able to operate in a Legal Grey Area. That's why there are literally separate Laws and Courts that deal with Vaccine-related cases.
www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/vaccine-programoffice-special-masters
The Chemical that is most likely to be causing the problems people label as Autism/Aspergers is found in Rocket Fuel. It is called Perchlorate .
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15871231 It is consistently found in water, food, breastmilk and baby formula.
I don't think it is a mere coincidence that Dr. Asperger himself was first noticing signs of what we now call Autism shortly after the proliferation of the V2 Rockets in Germany. Compounds in Rocket Fuel are unbelievably common in Milk and Human Breastmilk in particular. When infants are exposed to this chemical they are known to have neural-development issues, problems with Iodide uptake (Iodide deficiency causes thyroid issues) and limited thyroid function. One of the biggest indicators of a child having Autism is a weakened Thyroid in the Mother.
Perchlorate exposure ticks all of the boxes most people associate with "vaccine-related Autism".
Are you serious? Because I heard of aluminum, mercury, polysorbate80 but perchlorate?@@Crowbar11115
@@nutelina Very serious...look up the areas that caught Dr. Asperger's attention...they were areas right by the first Rocket Tests.
Perchlorate was found in 81 of 82 Breast Milk samples collected when investigating the spread of that chemical.
All of its negative health effects line up with Autism...from Thyroid issues, to iodide inhibition to neural developmental difficulties.
That's eerie! Thanks@@Crowbar11115
I really don't know what's the reasoning of people like you. How can you pretend to learn stuff like this by yourself on UA-cam and Facebook. You're just assuming 99.9% of all doctors, who have been studying for long years, are liars or dumb. And you are more knowledgeable than them with your amateur research. Do you also pretend to know more about cars than car engineers?
Abnormal is completely accurate. Normal is the average person. The average person is not autistic.
TheMattiePoo you need to define what a normal person is then. Some people who have autism you’d never know they had autism until they told you. Which brings us back to the case at hand, define normal?
@@drpureinsanity Someone who exists in life without supplementation.
That means people who don't need physical assistance, ongoing therapy, or a medicinal regimen to help their body function in a regulated and orderly fashion.
Monsieur Pickles “conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.” That’s the definition of normal, which brings me to what I was implying. I was implying that anyone can be considered abnormal if they do not conform to society’s norm. But thanks for the attempt, but it was a rhetorical question.
@@drpureinsanity I was stating the medical litmus for what is considered normal. There's really no need to be a dick when someone is trying to be helpful.
@@drpureinsanity this is a biological/medical issue normal is well established my good sir so stop acting like that is what's wrong!
I like to think of myself as a disorder. It gives me an excuse for not getting out and being a normal person.
Joe I am not an antivaxxer, my son is almost 18 and is on the autism spectrum and like many families we saw a change around the 18month vaccines. Our son who was tested in his early childhood as an early infant through an outstanding program in Minnesota and had been reaching developmental roadmarks until he was tested around 2yrs old. He had fallen back, somehow his testing showed he had lost development. I often feel kind of offended when people get into kind of a self rightous talking about anti vaxx. I have a now almost adult child with autism and I must admit there are times that I wonder what if, but I think that this is where the trap is. As a parent of a child with autism you can get caught up in "what If" thinking. What if so many things and many of us wonder what if these vaccines had not been done. Anyway this "What if" thinking leaves people open to all sorts of things and some of the things people wonder are dangerous. I feel that I am glad I am past the what if thinking, but if I had another child I am not as certain about vaccines.
I worked for an agency that worked with at risk early childhood 0-3yrs old and my job was to inform parents and doctors about getting children evaluated earlier because the outcomes for these at risk children are so much better the earlier the delay/delays are found. There is a common thing that happens that is right around the time children have their vaccines and it is speech and the first signs of delays are often noticed and doctors have had an old school way of looking at things because they used to almost never referr babies for developmental screenings before the age of 3. So yet again a parent will remember they just had vaccines. They never think if I had checked my child's development prior to noticing delays. Joe we did find patterns in our data among military families and among children born in areas of high pollution which often is related to families living in poverty. Why these patterns existed we did not have a mandate to study, but there was very definitive data. I did not care for the way your esteemed guest talked with that typical arrogance that why would we talk to them and just add credence to these obviously false ideas. Seems like a terrible way to look at an issue.
He's a scientist, it's not arrogance. The guy can only speak of what he knows has been tested or discovered.
The guest is actually in the same boat as you, with his own personal experience with his daughter, but he's choosing to look at the facts
He's a snake freak look at him I wouldn't trust this goblin around a pottedp lant let alone children. At least Joe knows what he is now better late then never.
Well spoken! I agree, he comes off as arrogant.
Thank you Joe Rogan, for asking critical question with the goal of getting to the truth instead of what 'feels right'. You are my role-model when it comes to asking questions!
PH: An adverser effect is less likely than being struck by lightning. An example is a shoulder injury.
JR: Is that common?
Legit, Rogan being so fucking annoying here. 24/7 interrupting him with questions it's obvious he will answer if he wasn't fucking interrupted.
Triggered much? How exactly did he make him lie?
@ryan revolt Lol, please enlighten us with your knowledge of immunology, PLR, TLRs, C-type lectin-like receptors, and all the other terms you've never heard of.
@ryan revolt Lol, you really think highly of yourself don't you? LMAO. Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. Appeal to futility fallacy in full effect. We can't prevent 100% of diseases, therefore we shouldn't try. "Vaccine science" which can confer 99% immunity "flies out the window." The simple presence of anti-bodies doesn't guarantee immunity. Obvious example is HIV anti-bodies.
@ryan revolt Admitted no such thing. You obviously can't read. My "claims" come from the CDC genius. Do you have polio? Would explain a lot, but don't think you do.
Autism convention you will meet kids that can read your mind, but can't tie their shoes.
ya ok
They've just decided not to live life in a 3rd dimensional reality, like most humans, who are stuck in the matrix.
Lmao
But what if in my mind I'm slowly tying my shoes?
@@EPJamesMacAdams tying shoes require motor skills and the autism spectrum is vast don't make fun of things you don't understand.
With reference to any study it should be mandatory to disclose who funded it
On autism it has been noted that if the rise in prevalence was just due to better diagnosis then the true rate of autism among 60+ year olds should be the same as it is for 5 year olds today i.e. 1 in 50.
While your point is logical on the surface, it overlooks several key considerations related to diagnosing autism in different age groups. The emphasis on early diagnosis is primarily to facilitate early intervention. As autism symptoms tend to emerge in early childhood, the chance of improving developmental outcomes is best when the disorder is detected early. Current resources for diagnosis and treatment are heavily skewed towards pediatric cases due to the effectiveness of early interventions.
The under-diagnosis of autism in older adults is a recognized issue and doesn't contradict the rise in prevalence among children. It's a reflection of shifting understanding, changing diagnostic practices, and different focus in healthcare resources rather than a contradiction in prevalence rates.
BREAKING NEWS: Water is Wet. More at 11.
It's like reddit in here. Everyone railing against a group of three anti-vaxxers somewhere in Mississippi that everyone already knows are stupid.
And Big Pharma corrupt and not trustworthy
@@StephenSchaal I'm in Mississippi and have never met an anti vaxxer. Most of them I've seen are in Michigan and Texas.
I honestly don’t hear a lot of “vaccines cause autism” arguments. Once or twice maybe. But what I hear are more arguments like “vaccines have harmful compounds in them to stop certain viruses that can be avoided anyway through proper nutriton from the child and mother before birth and during breast feeding”.
I’m interested in hearing both sides before making my final decision.
Breastfeeding isn't a substitute for vaccines. While it's true in many mammals that milk contains antibodies, it isn't so in humans. Baby is protected for about 6 months from the residual antibodies that can go through the placenta, but not by breastfeeding. Furthermore the antigens that are contained in breastmilk are IgA antibodies that protect mucous membranes, not IgG antibodies that circulate in the blood (some of which you may not even have anymore, like the anti-TB IgGs, the BCG vaccine for instance is given to children and not adults, because it is effective in children and not adults, and TB is far worse for kids than adults). The only way for baby to get those is for them is to get their shots.
Nutrition for momma and baby are very important, including pre-natal vitamins for mom and a vit K injection at birth for baby (it isn't at all painful - at least not compared to going through the vaginal canal during childbirth), as well as a multivitamin during the first 2 years of life (2 years is the cut-off period for preventing cognitive development issues linked to denutrition in infants).
There are many small choices we agonize about for our children, but this is a question with a clear cut answer.
why chooose a user name ? I’ll definitively look that info over. Thanks.
To be fair though, I never actually said that breast feeding is a ‘substitute’ for anything. I just think there are a lot of things we do to ourselves that cause us to be susceptible to many viruses and conditions that couldn’t have been avoided, had we been given the proper nutrition from birth. From viruses like Crohn’s disease all the way down to our eyesight... from what I’ve looked into, it all starts with your mother’s nutrition and then yours, and the gut is the most crucial organ that I believe we as a society take for granted these days.
Personally i see that with calling someone a certain label, dissorder, etc, people will usually stigmatize it unfortionatly. Its usually ignorance on most peoples parts. But say if i tell someone i deal with mental health issues, people can usually tend to think im crazy
I got 99 problems but my genes ain't one.
I was looking for this comment :D m(_ _)m
That's literally my main problem! Well that and my personal choices but scientific studies suggest that a that a person's genetics could play a part in that. E.G. your parents being addicts could lead to you being an addict.
jeans*
@@CaliSuperGuyxxx heh
Joe "Such a polarizing issue" Rogan
Joe is such a polarizing rogan
Joe should have asked about children with compromised guts.
what does that even mean?
It’s provocative, gets the people going!
@@qs6899 uhm sure but who was in Paris?
If this hack didn't have (53) millions to lose in grants, he'd get it handed to him in debate. I'll trust Suzanne Humphries, md, thank you very much!
Amen brother
@@crusadrian5010 my mistake! He only received $52 million.
she's a hack too for lying about how measles.Who fucking uses wikipedia as a source
He looks like an older Tai Lopez that ended up going through the post doc route in life.
I’ll bet when Peter does learn what causes Autism he will recommend an expensive pharmaceutical not to cure it but to treat it for life.
Sorry, you must have missed his patent free vaccine for Covid. Maybe you're Autistic
Bring in Del Bigtree to debate this clown in a bow tie
Won't happen as Joe is a sell out shill which he has admitted he will tell any narrative for money and/or threat to his family.
Suzanne Humphries, md. She breaks down vaccines per "ingredient" to tell you what each thing does.
The problem, if I remember, was caused after the introduction of glutomate, which helps the aluminum pass the blood-gut, then blood-brain barrier. Prior to the glutamate, the aluminum didn't get to the brain, so the mmr caused joint pain instead, which has seized with the new ingredient.
I'm going off memory now and am no doctor. Check out Suzanne Humphries, md.
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Bring Del Bigtree!!!! That would be awesome!
@@paulrickett7564 I hope he does. But again not everyone has the courage and fearlessness of Del Bigtree! I keep saying that ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE TRIUMPH OF EVIL IS THAT GOOD MEN DO NOTHING!
Why would he have them on? To represent a viewpoint that is scientifically demonstrably wrong?
I got a letter from a Pharmaceutical Company Today. They invited my child to participate in clinical trials for Vaccine Testing........................................................said no person ever.
I've been in one as a kid. I'm still alive, and do not have autism.
Here’s my problem what studies should we actually trust if any at all ? Seems like every study has a goal based on funding normally. How should we know who to trust ?
Most studies are done by universities and the like trying to provide valid information on tbe subject.
You work the science from the ground up (validating the 3 parts of an experiment), rather than listening to the experts top down.
An experiment must include an independent variable (an observed phenomenon; either vaccines or genetics in this case), a dependent variable (autism in this case), and a null hypothesis (varying the vaccines/genetics and causing no effect) for the experiment to be valid, until validated I would just call it a test. Multiple tests can work as controls to prove your independent variable is actually independent. (Not really possible if both vaccine or genetics hypothesis are shown to cause autism only sometimes; making neither controlled and rather just a correlation.)
An actual experiment (not just a correlative test) will show a cause (where a correlation has multiple causes) and effect relationship by varying the independent variable and affecting the dependent variable.
Just the short bit about his daughter, her job and what that does for her was awesome.
In my state this type of support for individuals with disabilities was voted out... we will have hundreds of individuals in our area without a place to go as a result. It was a great thing in WA.
I watched this and he has convinced me that vaccines are a joke
Arsie Jackson
three babies walked into a bar, and one had three shots, while the others watched and laughed. The one who had three shots said: "why did the chicken cross the road?" the other one replied "because he was too fat to fly!" as the third baby chucked him self to death. The bar tender face palmed, while proclaiming: "what has the world come to!"
@@arsiejackson2225 I won't say they're a joke, but my son got the MMR and had mumps within three days. I have two nephews who were speaking and recognizing letters. They got their MMR and regressed drastically to the point that they are in therapy a few days a week. Maybe there's something in my wife's family that causes their offspring to react adversely.
They can cause children to be brain damaged. 2 children at a doctors surgery near me were severely brain damaged after a vaccine. It took years before the doctors admitted what had happened. A cleaner had unplugged the fridge overnight where the vaccines were stored. The little boy died in the end and the other is brain dead. It wasn’t the vaccine itself but it’s shocking the fridge wasn’t on a dedicated supply with an over temperature alarm. The doctors all left the surgery one by one as they all knew what had happened but wouldn’t admit it to the parents until years later in court.
Only upvoted for attention
So this issue wasn't the vaccine itself then?
Would love to see this guy debate RFK Jr.
This comment aged well
@@TurtleMarathon haha I forgot that I wrote this but I guess it did age well
I have asperger's its an issue and it gives me some difficulties in life along with other health issues but I know I'm still better off than a lot of people in the world its a disorder yes but I'm not ashamed of it.
my man, autistic kings move forward
This guy just looks like the type of guy who you would pay to speak about something.
Totally
Wtf lol
You mean hosting a podcast?
Haha! I was totally thinking that!!
Exactly.... probably wasn't too expensive either.
why does this remind me of the food pyramid bulshit all over again
The reason we consider autism a disorder is because those with autism, especially those with severe autism, have a lot of co-occurring issues that affect their quality of life. It’s not that we don’t accept or love them as who they are. It’s that we want them to be happy and healthy. I think this whole thing about not calling it a disorder is actually the worst form of gaslighting. Trying to normalize it so that the skyrocketing numbers don’t seem so bad. It’s not normal for a kid to not be able to go outside because just the sound of outside causes sever distress. It’s not normal to feel so dysregulated you bang your head against a wall for relief. The average life expectancy is significantly shorter for those with autism, 36 years old. 30% of people with autism have epilepsy compared to 2% of the general population. 40% of people with autism are non verbal. We wouldn’t say just accept someone with diabetes and don’t say they have a disorder then not treat it. So why do that with autism. It’s evil in my opinion.
Here's the other side...
STAFFORDSHIRE, England -In early December 2017, Dr. Chris Exley of Keele University in England and his colleagues published a paper that for the first time looked at the brain tissue of subjects with autism to determine the level of aluminum (note: they spell “aluminum” as “aluminium” in the United Kingdom) found within their brain tissue. For anyone trying to convince the world that “the science is settled and vaccines don’t cause autism,” the study’s findings are deeply contradictory to that statement. In a blog post written by Professor Exley on the day his study was published, he explained the groundbreaking results:
Not like it's smart to play wack-a-mole with the Anti Vaxx crowd but this is worth a look: vaxopedia.org/2018/06/06/who-is-chris-exley/
@@eliasross4576 Leave it up to these guys to tout a few isolated wackos as "heroes and rebels trying to uncover the huge scientific conspiracy that somehow manages to save and prolong millions of lives every day and yet is out to kill us for a profit."
I blame the shitty education system for the lack of scientific literacy.
@WeZ - " The problem I have with this paper is its deep experimental flaws and data analysis that nonetheless should not have passed through the peer-review filter.”" Exley's peers do not accept that this was a proper scientific study. The guy is a snake oil salesman
@@liamdonnelly670 That's a terrible use of "nonetheless".
At some point in the interview, Hotez states that the only things in vaccines are water/saline and the antigen. Thats basically all you need to know about this guy.
Wow! That is a big FAT lie! Water/saline and the antigen?????????????????????????? This shows that this guy is either a liar or he doesn't know a thing about what goes in vaccines!!
That's so wrong lol. Saline would degrade the actual active ingredients lmao. People believe this stuff???
Good catch. Guy is a farce and a liar. He lost all credibility there.
He doesn't come off as a truth teller, that's for sure. Gotta say, kudos to Rogan who is getting sharper and sharper in his interviews.
No he didn't. I heard him mention thimerosal and aluminiun.
his bowtie is so adorable
So funny that that is your takeaway from this.You are my spirit animal of the day!.....and yes, cats are gods ;-)
What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?
I got 99 genes but a autism ain't one.
Invite Del Bigtree on the show....I DARE YOU
Scientists discovered if they insert the words ''scientists and/or science'' anywhere, the unwashed trendies will believe ANYTHING.
Yessss! Del Bigtree needs to debate that silly billy clown!
@@chrissyp930 Take a look at what this "director" knows in comparison with the guy in the bowtie. THE VACCINE SAFETY PROJECT
ua-cam.com/video/zt-CZN48rR8/v-deo.html After watching it let me know who would you trust with the health of your children.
Chris Purcell what about the hundreds and hundreds of doctors who think they are dangerous and problematic? Why would you prefer to take the other side? Because it sounds good?
@@mikegipson847 i'm also a scientist. pubmed is not a journal. when i go to pubmed and paste in your search, i get nothing. maybe you can link to the paper you're talking about?
If you give up your freedom for saftey you deserve neither
meh, i'll take my mandatory vaccines and enjoy growing old without worrying about those pesky deadly viral and bacterial diseases.
Bernie Mac thinks you should DEBATE
Behold the comment section full of lounge chair researchers
Some of us have actually read the Wakefield MMR article though, but yea maybe only a handful out of thousands
I research on top of a pogo stick
Ya what doctors have you went to that have a fucking clue what they are talking about? You have to see 15 just to have chance at a decent diagnosis. Experts?
How do you propose anyone do ANY research? Running? Jumping? Flying? Start their own experiments?
I'll bet maelstrom of horror is a great descriptor for you in your underwear holding a family-size bag of Cheetos and making the "rock and roll" sign with an orange hand.
I just love fat guys who give health advice in between fast food meals 😂
Between "buffets"
Trump said the jab saved 100 million lives.
He was scarfing down a bucket of KFC at the time. 🐔🐓🐔
Bagels, lox and cream cheese are very fattening.
What a retarded argument , just because he is a bit overweight makes all his academic and scientific credentials Invalid? Sounds like Anthony is a brother who finished his education at 16 and is now a personal trainer .....
Can you address the hundreds of thousands of parents who have had the same experience: Kid changed after vaccines. I know a couple of parents personally who experienced this. Who is telling the truth, the scientist who work for multibillion-dollar business, or parents who LOVE their children?
Yes! Parents know their kids and they know when their kid has drastically changed overnight. You don't need to be a genius to see this!
Kids change quickly when they're young. It's called growing up lmfao
Why hasn't Congress subpoenaed William Thompson, whistleblower from the CDC?
Probably because that stupid conspiracy theory has been debunked. The whole "whistleblowing" was a complete fraud.
@@yissssss no but the best part is instead of bringing in Thompson before Congress the bring in a 18 year old kid. Oh let's not forget about the woman that use to work for Merck that also went before the CDC tell them how dangerous vaccines are. Thompson hasn't been debunked. You're misinformed Dan
@@mariae2781 No, he has. If you think vaccines cause autism at this point, you're an idiot who doesn't understand the scientific process. You're basically a flat earther.
@@yissssss look I was being nice about it but you are being an asshole for calling me an idiot. Aluminum isn't good for the brain idiot
@@troweltheory oh another asshole. No I'm saving my kids from the perfect storm. Pollutants, round ups and vaccines are the perfect storm you idiot. Do the research
as best as I can tell right now, Joe will also agree with the next anti-vaxxer he has on the show.
with good reason too. see the science isn't settled video. they will not have the debate because they would get slaughtered.
@@anemiapwns1 As long as the debate is not about pro vs anti vax but instead about pro vs anti mercury (from 4 different sources...), and pro vs anti inflammation (also from multiple sources) and how those two things - coupled with the BS Yank court protections barring all civil suits against vaccine manufacturers explains exactly how we ended up in this confusing predicament.
{ See the DECENT of Sotomayor w/ Ginsberg; SCOTUS: Bruesewitz v. Wyeth, 2011.}
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... That, plus the fact most people are not scientists, and **most really smart scientists* ( *and bystanders* ) *are nervous as hell about speaking or writing about any of it.**
@@seipjere Well put. Aluminum is also a cause for concern. Brain exams done on those who had Autism and Alzheimers show elevated levels of aluminum. We had a fast one pulled on us just like saying fluoridating our water is good. Heavy metals in the body are toxic no matter what the amount. This is just bad "science".
They will at least present him with documented evidence. So yeah, it will be difficult for him to do anything otherwise.
Anemia★Pwns If all heavy metals are bad, no matter the dosage, you should probably get all that iron and magnesium out of your body dude.
I've never been worried about Autism my big thing was SIDS.
why
I think that's a reasonable fear that was mine too
I've found some indications SIDS can be caused by leaking volatile gasses from bedding materials. They studied this in New Zealand which used to have higher than average SIDS. They found this was perhaps caused by leaking gasses from their bedding materials because they use sheepskins for baby beds in New Zealand (sheep country) more than other countries. These volatiles can overwhelm the system of a very young child causing muscle paralysis, but are harmless to adults, much like the tiny amounts botox in honey affect babies but not adults.
SIDS chances may increase immediately after vaccination because vaccines can cause a fever and that extra body heat warms up the bedding materials more and this releases more volatile compounds on top of the child being physically weaker as it mounts an immune response to the vaccine aggravants.
@@lunchbag_larry just because for something to suddenly die and we have no idea seems suspicious to me. I've had several friends where their babies needed rushed to the hospital later that day because they stopped breathing. Everyone is different and it's hard to know who would have a allergic reaction to one of the chemicals in this vaccine. So I just decided to wait to my child is at a age where he has a mesurable intelligence and is perfectly healthy then try one at a time. Older they can tell you when something doesn't feel right or are having a hard time breathing or something. My child was pretty secluded I live in a very small town and always had a stay at home parent so no pre schools and such. That was just my worry.
But there is zero evidence to support that. Could a fever from a vaccination maybe increase the chances for a night because of the excessive heat, maybe but there is no clear correlation there. A child is more likely to die of SIDS because they were sleeping on their stomach or with a blanket. There is also a now evidence based, suspected genetic portion of SIDS where there is a mutated receptor causing issues with serotonin and the babies' abilities to gasp for air when they need to.
Listening to Joe Rogan causes autism
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dude looks like he doesn't shower.
No discussion of adjuvants?
Aluminum....thimerisol....he dismissed that as well.
How about live vaccines vs whatever they put in them (lies). Corvelva proved it about Glaxokline. Merke getting sued by US gov for decade of lies. Live vaccines work. CDC and big pharma are corrupt.
@stevehustlehard why are you screaming at me about it?? im well aware of that lol....i responded to the OP question about adjuvants not being discussed. They were briefly mentioned in the video & seemingly dismissed.....which is what I said in my 1st reply
@stevehustlehard Since it's a "Fact!" can you please direct me to a source? There are so many adjuvants to pick from, it shouldn't be a problem to direct me to something. Also keep in mind that you can't assume this based only on animal studies. Findings in animal models are often not 1:1 appl. to humans.
Its funny to watch all the likes I get on this comment yet only 2 appear here. Lol! Google ... you corrupt as well.
"Astronomer says space is real"
These comments from years ago are incredible and have aged like a fine warm milk.
Please bring on Dell Bigtree and Andrew Wakefield ! Thanks
Andrew Wakefield is a certified quack.
jzka2012 keep on drinking the pharma cool aid buddy !
Oh, your health care system is screwed. Your government has allowed insane markup on medication and cost of treatments. But the uk has a vaccination schedule and a national health service. Fun fact! We don't routinely vaccinate for chicken pox in UK. NICE just doesn't consider it necessary and therefore its a saving. If the other vaccines were unnecessary, best believe they wouldn't be available on NHS.
the ting about autism is that is wasnt't properly diagnosed until the last 50 years. before that, people were just considered "weird."
Yep. Indeed the diagnosis itself isn't much older and has changed with our growing knowledge significantly. Indeed a LOT of older folk are now seeking and gaining dx's in thier 40's 50's and older. Sir Anthony Hopkins got his at about age 70. Not sure how old Dan Akroyd or Daryl Hanah were when they got theirs.
Ask him what the national vaccine compensation act is
idk what that is.. now im curious.
EDIT: yyeah this guys so full of shit, or hes just plain ignorant and clueless because of who hes likely surrounded by.
You mean the very thing he talks about at 12:55?
@@AJD09FB ah he does bring it up, but he always prefaces the opposition with titles like "anti-vaccine lobby" which is more of a play on words than an actual thing.
@@nickmagrick7702 The anti-vaccine lobby is as real as any other political-action committee lobbying government for action on an issue. He is not playing with words in relation to the opponents of vaccination having organised groups which exist solely to lobby politicians to back their cause, and to spread falsehoods about vaccination to the general public.
There is no reasonable opposition to vaccination: it works, it has been proven to work, the risks are *vastly* outweighed by the benefits (by a factor of at least a million to one), herd immunity is essential unless we want another plague, and vaccination should be mandatory for anyone who wishes to interact with wider society - especially if we wish to protect those with the weakest immune systems, and those unable to receive a vaccination (not by choice, but biology).
Parents who refuse to vaccinate should be made to see children dying of easily preventable diseases, and explain themselves to the parents of those children that die every year after being exposed by an unvaccinated classmate, etc.
@@AJD09FB Yes
The Benny Hill of vaccine science...lol
With all due respect to your guest Joe, I don’t like to think of myself as a paraplegic, BUT I AM. It is what it is. That’s the problem with people these days. Sorry but facts don’t care about your feelings.
I wish Joe Rogan would interview Del Bigtree or Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. about this sometime. There's a lot more nuance to this subject than the mainstream media is willing to admit.
Bring on Del and RFK Jr.!
Andrew Wakefield, bring him on!
Joe, is afraid to interview DEL BIGTREE..... Super afraid.
Agreed! And Brian Hooker!
Interesting in his beginnings Joe has a different position about vaccines and after he got popularity it turns around and interview mostly encouraging vaccines . ua-cam.com/video/lSibPHi84W0/v-deo.html
How is this still a debate
Tony Markic Mentally deficient people. That’s why.
PLEASE HAVE ON DEL BIGTREE
He won’t. He’s cointelpro.
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Why would he have on Del Bigtree? He is an entirely self-serving moron, he has no scientific credentials and makes more money than any ‘vaccine shill’ peddling horse shit for the credulous and ill informed - enough for you?
motorcitycobra2009 Womp
Because when you have actually done research and studies, you know that the reality is that trying to have a truly controlled experimemt with a sample population without any potential points of bias, is literally impossible. Thus in science it is extremely rare that you will ever say anything with absolute certainty. So he says, "as far as we can tell."
what about the mother who cured her son's autism by chelating him in the sauna?
Sounds to me like she's a good scientist and you are following a bunch of shills who are there to obscure the truth and somehow you've believed that they're making a good faith effort of uncovering the truth. You've been fooled and I imagine that your mind is too closed to entertain the possibility that I'm right about you.
@@lebergerdesphotons4565 No- I've got a science masters and I think that the peer review system is pretty good. You're picked apart actually, and rightly so. Oddly to be a vegan influencer, you just need to have a good understanding of face tune and filters. Sadly, veganism is a good idea, and mouth breather morons make it seem like a cult of basic bitches and bastards with ego problems.
@@lebergerdesphotons4565 If you are actually being sarcastic, I'm sorry, but the stupidity bar is so low, I struggle to recognise it when people are.
@@punkybrewstar83
No- I've got a science masters and I think that the peer review system is pretty good.
Yes, I think it is too in every case except the cases in which big money wants to screw it up. The documentation on that is pretty extensive. They get caught regularly.
You're picked apart actually, and rightly so.
I"m picked apart? what do you mean?
Oddly to be a vegan influencer, you just need to have a good understanding of face tune and filters.
What is a vegan influencer? What is face tune?
Sadly, veganism is a good idea,
When did we move from vaccines to veganism?
and mouth breather morons make it seem like a cult of basic bitches and bastards with ego problems.
How is this a response to my comment regarding the mother who cured her son's autism in the sauna?
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@@punkybrewstar83
If you are actually being sarcastic, I'm sorry, but the stupidity bar is so low, I struggle to recognise it when people are
I'm not getting how anything you say is a response to my above comment. I'm going to paste it here so you can tell me if I'm mistaken about which of my comments you're reacting to:
what about the mother who cured her son's autism by chelating him in the sauna?
Sounds to me like she's a good scientist and you are following a bunch of shills who are there to obscure the truth and somehow you've believed that they're making a good faith effort of uncovering the truth. You've been fooled
There was a time when majority scientists said smoking was good for health and sugar does not cause health risks.
Mothers are advised to get vaccinated during pregnancy for all sorts of stuff and everyone that is around the mother closely. They can’t say this doesn’t affect the baby. Cmon guys. This is a joke.
You're an idiot dude. They literally tell pregnant women to not change anything about what they do. Some doctors tell smoking mothers to keep smoking even because quitting cold turkey causes more stress to their body than smoking would. Don't spout nonsense, you fuck. They don't vaccinate expecting mothers you fucking knob.
^ 1st comment is right.
Plus no one is saying what you do to the mother doesnt translate to the kid. Theyre saying vaccines definitely do not cause autism.
Stfu and get back in the dishroom.
What mother's do you know that have been given vaccinations????? I've had three children and never would any of my gynecologists have let anyone inject me with anything... other than maybe pain meds while delivering..but guess what you don't actually have to even take those if you think your tough enough to handle the birthing process without them... I ended up with a urinary tract infection with my middle child and even that was a procedure and a half because they didn't want to medicate if they didn't have to so I ended up drinking pure cranberry juice for a week before they finally put me on a low dose penicillin ( because apparently even sulfur was a no no!!!) Let's play your game though and let's pretend that a certain percentage of the population is susceptible to autism through vaccinations...now let's weigh that against 100% of the population being susceptible to polo, measles and small pox without vaccinations... I'm sorry if you think that it makes me an asshole to say that I'm not overly concerned about you maybe being right because the main populous can't catch autism... it's not fucking contagious. My children range in ages of 20, 12, and 8 and during their educational careers between them they've only ever encountered 4- 5 children with autism..3 of those individuals were on a high functioning spectrum so given the that they attended schools ranging from 500- 1500 give or take depending on wether or not it was elementary, junior, or high school I'd say that if you're correct the percentage is very very small and I don't think that we should be making decisions to head back to the pestilence ages just because you're afraid your child MIGHT end up either autistic or interacting with a child whose autistic.. personally my children can play with their autistic friends ( again if they had them because...guess what??? the percentage of autistic children they encounter is small) all day everyday but I've got no time for polo or measles thanks.
@@mindygirard9932 the antivaxx movements biggest claim is that thimerosal the preservative additive to vaccines causes autism. To quell those concerns they stopped using it years ago. Yet the highly educated antivaxxers keep screaming about it.
Bring Del Bigtree on its only fair to show the well researched opposing argument. You did good with Tim and Twitter but everyone in the room was on the left....give us a real opposing view on this one. Del is on UA-cam look him up.
Joe is the biggest podcast on UA-cam and maintains that he is open minded. The vaccine debate is huge in the US and around the world. I myself have a 7 month old son and have done around 15 months of research on the subject and this guy has left many things out of the conversation. I have 2 friends with vaccine injured children. One was awarded money from the vaccine court so there are legitimate concerns out there that ppl want to hear about.
Sounds sketchy...
3:10 all you need is in the next 20 sec to completely disregard anything this guy has to say
@@Wittynametag What ?
In imagination land ?
Autistic people are as neurologically diverse as bald people are follicularly diverse
Having an actual scientist talking in tumblerisams is a sad day for humanity
@@Wittynametag Are you mad, or are you arguing with yore self ?
What retards identify as is unimportant
As doctors and scientists our job is to identify the disease/syndrome and find a cure or treatment for it
My feelings or anyone else's are as unimportant as if someone getting offended over the fact that 2+2 is 4
@@Wittynametag Now you are moving the goal post, the guy says that thees groups identify neurologically atypical(fancy word for special) so far everything he said is right but than he says that calling them mentally ill or subnormal is not OK at witch point Joe says something like "but they do have a problem" the guy says well they feel they are different but not inferior (or something like that) at witch Joe says but to me it sounds like people trying to control what I say because they don't like it and the guy finally sheepishly drops it
TLDR: The guy tries to spin the tumblr idea that retards are special gets confronted drops the point, near the end says his daughter who is -retarded- autistic can barely handle a 4 hour cashier job at free will
@@Wittynametag I direct you to my original comment and my every other comment
I very clearly made a statement against the self diagnosed snowflakes that the guy tries to champion(especially given hi is suppose to be a scientist), I even specifically pointed it out
But you ware busy being patronizing/condescending to pay attention or understand what I was saying
And yes I am a scientist-I am an MD with an ongoing specialization in neurophysiology
You sound stupid af no offense
Dude looks like a mad scientist
Because he is mad.
What does the antivacine lobby I tend to gain. I are they selling something? Are they making money? Usually a lobby has a monetary stake in the game
Well it doesn't take a lot of brainpower to come up with something. eg. Alternatives to vaccines, like alternative medicin that magicaly cure everything. Funny if you think how useless suplements alone are a multibillion dollar industrie while vaccines have almost no marge. No wonder Pharmacompanies tend to neglect vaccines more and more while investing in these sectors where regulation and cost are slim.
To be honest i don't think most of the anti vaxxers are in for the greed, some might profilate themself, some might get a living out of it as beeing the anti vaxxer youtuber etc. but i think most of them are just ignorant. It's a movement based on stupidity and emotions if you wanna simplified it.
@@MrHunapu I am not against vaccines per se, having been in the service I have a like a two page list of all vaccines innoculations. My problem is that babies get so many all at once at birth. imagine a brand new healthy baby and you just inject it with all these chemicals. I don't feel okay with that. It's similar to people who buy subarus or any sportscar for that matter. Engineers spend thousands of hours doing research and development fine tuning everything for optimal performance and some guy decides he knows more than the engineers. Then he tries to do his own tuning and mods. Next thing you know you have a brand new sports car on the lemon lot. It's not the best analogy but that is how I reason. I know doctors should be experts in their field but most of these are the same people who help create and opioid epidemic. I do not have children of my own. I do have a nephew who is autistic and I have a best friend of mine who's son is also autistic. So it is a very personal issue to me.
They are making a killing off of mineral water....immensely lucrative. Most of these guys don't sell shit.
Some sell their snake oil. Some sell "homeopathic vaccines." Some are in it for attention. Many are anti-vax because they want the feeling of having special knowledge, the "I know something you don't know" phenomenon. Others adopt anti-vaccination as a way of telling authorities (schools, the government, grandparents of their kids) "You can't make me!"
It's a mixed bag of motivations, none of which are based on sound science.
@@senorstrangelov I can only imagine what an impact it must've had on you and your family and friends family finding out those kids have autism. It is hard to see things like that and not want to blame something or someone for it. You have my deepest sympathy on this.
Blaming vaccines, however, is not going to help us here. The initial research demonstrating the so called link between vaccines and autism has been disproved countless of times. It has also been proven that the doctor who did the initial research willingly introduced a bias in his research and can't practice medicine anymore. Ever since, he's been touring spreading this lie around the world.
How do we know this link isn't there? Because we track pretty much EVERYTHING that happens to our children after they receive any type of vaccine. Do they get a mild fever? It's documented. Do they throw up? It's documented. Does nothing at all happen? It's documented. Do they develop autism? It's documented.
The important thing is, we also do this for kids who don't get their vaccines.
With this information collected from millions of kids you can start looking at what happens to our kids when they receive their shots. So we know which percentage of kids develop autism and how many of those did or did not receive vaccines.
Turns out, time and again, there is zero correlation between vaccines and autism.
All of this information is publicly available. The research and the numbers are out there. This research is done in many countries, and everywhere the results are the same. I sit in awe sometimes realizing how much money keeps being burned disproving a lie, because the lie keeps on living.
I know there are a lot of trust issues toward any type of authority these days. Especially towards doctors. And some of it with good reason. However, in this case, we are taking things too far.
Much peace and love to you senor :)
14:05 “As best you can tell” Joe hits an important point here. A responsible, conscientious scientist is not going to say definitively, without any doubt what I’m saying is 100% true, if he/she doesn’t have the evidence to support that (and any subject that requires experiments to support or disprove a hypothesis will never be 100% provable). This is because they know how science and statistics work, and they’re aware enough of all sorts of cognitive and systemic biases in the scientific world that better evidence can emerge later which disproves what they’re saying (or what happens most of the time: actually affirms their current conclusions, but for slightly different reasons than first assumed).
The problem with people who are less educated is that they lack the necessary knowledge, but compensate entirely with lack of self-criticism, and think they know for sure, with no way of backing that up (nor feeling the need). This is exacerbated by the horrible state of education in America, mixed with the ridiculous way kids are raised, resulting in some sort of confidence that has no basis in reality. But what do you expect, if you constantly tell kids they’re unique, they’re a miracle, they’re the most important thing in the world, the sky is the limit, they can become anything they ever wanted, and they get an award for coming last. Sprinkle that with a layer of American exceptionalism, and you have the worst combination of personal traits imaginable: stupidity and arrogance.
Hence Trump as president.
Yeah but they don't make these assertions lightly, or go out in such a public fashion talking about it. Flat-Earthers have been trying to use this kind of "broad strokes" argument for years. Well, that and "NASA lies" apparently about everything.
Ryan S If you’re actually responding to me, then I think you’ve completely missed my point. That’s probably my fault though - I must have not made my point entirely clear.
@@KryzMasta No I'm the idiot for not reading the whole thing. I especially agree with the last part about the arguably toxic mixture that has created undeserved and unabashed arrogance. All marketing in the US is like that. "You deserve more/better, pay us and we'll make you better than everyone else."
Lol Trump was a better choice than Billary. If you think that sack of shit would be doing better than Trump, then you also probably got autism from a vaccine.
Ryan S I’m getting slightly teary-eyed about the fact that we’re having a constructive and respectful discussion here in the swamp of the UA-cam comment section. :D
First step to overcoming an issue is accepting that you have the issue in the first place. Took me a long time to get to that point.
There is a reason Japan stopped using MMR...
is it because they developed a new more effective way to vaccinate against those diseases, or is it because the mmr vaccine has completely wiped out those diseases in japan?
Well.. I’ve had MMR twice now once as I entered the Marine Corps, the other as I entered my job with the state department to renew it. And let me tell you, getting that vaccine was just one of the most traumatic thing ever, I thought my previous autism would become super autism.. I’ve had over probably 20 vaccines in my life including smallpox, this whole movement is fucking garbage. And it’s sad that there is now a “debate” on vaccinations. That’s like saying there is a debate on “flat earth” no there is stupid.. and reality.
I can see where you're coming from, and while I think that currently using MMR is a lot better than outbreaks of measles, mumps etc. I'd still prefer 3 seperate jabs as opposed to the MMR, which Japan stopped using because 1 in about 900 kids were developing permanent adverse effects. It's completely in the realm of possibility, you've probably never been struck by lightning or won a million dollars either, but that certainly doesn't mean that they don't both happen. The difference in flat earth is that we have centuries of evidence and study that says otherwise, while the evidence and study on MMR shows that even though it might not be a very alarming number, and it might not necessarily be autism as we define it, some weird stuff is happening to a small number of people after receiving this shot.
@@Darkgalaga There's a big difference between what you just said and the anti vax "movement" you're talking about improving scientific medical practices for effective use. Anything can always be improved. What is being put out there, is that vaccinations not only don't work, they are also dangerous all the time. It's like common sense has gone out the window because of the platform of social media. There's centuries of medical proof for vaccinations as well, never the less thanks for a reasonable viewpoint which seems rare on this topic.
@@jeffreyfassnacht4991 Oh, absolutely. And I know I probably came off as "anti-vax" which, I promise, I am not. Matter of fact, something about Japan is that, while they might be using 3 seperate shots now to less side effects, they're more expensive and more people end up only getting 1 or 2 of them as opposed to all 3. Surprising to nobody this means that small pocket outbreaks of all 3 of them happen semi-regularly.
This dude don't even care about his own health, what makes you think he cares about ours...
"His 12 year medical degree means nothing because he's fat"
@@GaryIV lol what a scientist didn't say one scientific thing the whole interview. Just listen to his answers if that's a person that makes Vaccines then I'll rather drink bleach.
Yes! Right! He doesn't even care about the health of his autistic child!! Who can trust someone like this guy to give us the right answers?
@@mariai.g.r.2786 What do you mean he doesn't care about his daughter's health? When did he say that?
"Phoney baloney"
-Peter Hotez
I've had many parents tell me during their child's IEP assessments that they saw a change in their childs behavior after getting a series of shots around 2 years of age, shortly there after comes the autism diagnosis. For this guy to say "a lot of things happen when a child gets the mmr vaccine, they cry" thats not what parents are saying. Parent know that something has changed in their childs personality and ability to communicate.