Valkyrie DIY: How To Install a Fuel Gauge.
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2015
- I was researching an idea I had in mind for a while, find a way to add a gas gauge to my 98 GL1500c, and came across a maker who'd already built one from scratch. I contacted Joop Angelier, an engineer from the Netherlands, and after a few conversations he agreed to build one for me. He has several fascinating projects on his website, and even includes schematics and detailed info on how he designed them.
If you're the DIY type, check him out:
joopangelier.nl/ - Наука та технологія
Anyone needing a similar kit, try LSK Motorcycle Electronics. They make a similar kit that works on same principal as this in both analog, digital, panel mount or bar mount. They also have tach kits.
My condolences to Joops family.
ive been looking for something like this for so long and i think you are the only person that actually has one... its a shame that guy isnt doing to well because i definitely need this on my bike!!!
VERY NICE VIDEO!!! Definitely will be looking into one of these systems for my bike!!!
You have an awesome speaking voice when narrating this video...WELL DONE!!
Best Wishes!
Mike
Nice job installing. Your soothing calm voice makes me believe I can do it. 👍🏻
Should show this some of the Makers here on UA-cam. I'm sure someone would love to tear into this thing to see what makes it tick and how to duplicate it. It's quite an ingenius piece of kit.
I'm not sure, but I believe that a company called LSK made a deal with his estate. They're putting out a version that looks like it's based off his design.
Plus several other companies are making something similar now.
Lots of options out there since I made this video.
His site is still down as of April 2018. Sure would like this on my 04 V-Star 1100 Custom!
Beautiful bike! Great video too!
thanks!
Would like something like this on my 2007 Yamaha V-Star 650.
very well explained video thanks for sharing god bless you
That's such a great content man 💯💯 You inspired me to install this badass on my kawasaki eliminator 😎
Sadly, Joop passed away at the age of 58 after a battle with cancer on January 26th, 2018.
Wow. He was a really clever engineer, and just a cool guy.
Thanks for telling us, Steve Bumpus.
Steve Bumpus
That’s sad, such a creative human being.
nice video, and ride!
My condolences to Joops family. RIP
This is awesome, I'm building up a no running virago 535 for my first bike, and this kit is definitely on the list for priority once it runs, looks awesome! Just need a rev counter now :S
Thanks for watching. If you take some pics or vids of your own project, let me know.
I want this kit can't find anything like it anywhere take my money where do I get one
hey, is there any part or model numbers on that pressure sensor? Hoping to find one online
Beautiful Bike.
nice bike!!!
Sadly Joop seems to be MIA according to his website. I really need a gas Gauge on my 99 Shadow and this kit would be perfect for that to at least give some sort of idea where my fuel is. Opening the gas tank i cant even see the bottom of the tank. and im not sure how far my reserve goes before the tank drains completely. any idea where else i could get a kit like this? ive searched for an hour now after looking at your vid here.
Hi all. Lots of you are noticing that Joop's site is down now.
I'm glad that people are learning about this brilliant engineer through me, but I don't represent his business, or speak for him.
As I said, he used to publish the schematics on his site, and I was planning to build some myself. But when I contacted him he was cool enough to hand-build some of them for me and ship them halfway around the world. For a price, of course.
Maybe one day he'll return to this hobby, or make the schematics available. But I have no info on that.
I'm wondering if you still have the fuel sending unit and gauge in your possession. Would love to get a look at how they were put together. Pretty sure someone, if not I, could reverse engineer it.
hey leonardo just a question can it be installed on royal enfield ??
and does it not require any drilling in tank?
Хорошая идея!
Where can I get one of those for my 98 Honda Valkyrie? I love my bike but it's kind of a pain not having a fuel gauge
That is a nice bike
Thanks! I'm looking for a windscreen drilled for the oem hardware. any ideas?.
If the chrome wasn't scratched I'd send you the Clearview Shields screen that's in this video. it's a nice wind shield, but has some wear on it.
Since then I put on a batwing fairing.
www.clearviewshields.com
Hi @Lyonardo, Thank you for posting this very instructive solution. What a shame the guy who made it is no longer around.
I’d really like to put one of these together. Can you see any part numbers on the pressure device?
Hey, check out these guys. Not sure if they're connected to Joop's family or not. But their solution looks almost identical to what Joop handmade for me back then. Good luck man.
www.lskelectronics.com/
Lyonardo Cheers bro. Will do.
That digital gauge in the beginning with the LEDs between the factory gauges, where did you get it? I'd love that to be my fuel gauge.
Jay Scott, that's the Kuryakin led battery gauge. The newer version looks a little different but works the same.
And yes, it can be modified for other purposes. I spliced it to a temp sending unit and it seemed to work ok. It's gone now though.
Beautiful bike have newish old 15 Honda Valkyrie fantastic hate they quit making them
Could you tell me where you got the parts from please thanks Kevin
i have a 2000 honda shadow sabre and i thought that was a unit of a bike for me, but holy jesus this is a monster of a bike
Man this is the kit I need for a few bike's. But the website is no longer there.
@Denver Zinser, check out the comments below. There are some links to some pretty similar kits.
Joop passed away January 2018.
He wasn't the only one who made a pressure-based system.
It was just the one I liked the best. He designed it from the ground up, built them by hand, and in my opinion, it looked the best at the time.
Good luck man.
this is great. Think it would work on a bike with a secondary tank like the virago? problem is theres a pump too, would it go between the secondary tank to the pump? pretty frustrated with this!
Hey Nick Gargiulo,
This type probably couldn't work with a pump. It needs the full weight of the liquid in the tank to compress what comes out of the bottom and reaches the pressure sensor. A fuel pump would probably relieve the pressure and throw the reading off.
Anyway, this model is no longer available. There are other options though. Good luck.
yea im thinking the opposite, that it would read the pressure of the pump and make it look like a full tank always. either way it doesnt seem like the right solution for my bike. looks great on yours!
Now I'm curious. We know that the pump would create a strong vacuum in the line and would intermittently suck more liquid through than vacuum or gravity feed would. But would that increase or decrease the pressure reading on the sensor?
If I had the time, I might try this out on my workbench.
where do i order this kit?
i need this kit as well. would it work on a shadow 1100?
As others have mentioned, Joop Angelier who built and designed this device, isn't making these devices right now.
When you visit his website, it has a message that he's temporarily unavailable due to illness.
www.joopangelier.nl/
Hopefully, he'll be better. He's really a great guy.
But to answer your question, this works off of pressure readings, so any gravity fed fuel system that has the same size tank would get the same reading as my bike.
There are other vids on UA-cam showing gauges that use other methods.
Good luck man!
i want one!!!!
R.I.P For Joop. I was really hoping to get one of his peices here for my Bike. Are there any Alternatives to his Creation?
Yeah, he was a great guy. We talked about bikes quite a bit via email. Pretty cool to get to know someone from the other side of the world.
There's a company called LSK electronics that makes one now. Looks like a mass produced version of the handmade units Joop made. I'm guessing that his family sold the rights. Costs a lot less too.
Just google "fuel pressure gauge" motorcycles, and I'm sure you'll find it.
Good luck man.
@@lyunardo thank you man! Got this small bike project I want to get this on. Do I need a float for this? Or how exactly do these work
@@infinitygalaxy2197 Good luck. Hope you'll give us an update. And if you make a video, give as the link.
Ar far as how it works... I explain that pretty early in the vid, so don't want to type it out, lol.
No float needed. It works from the fluid pressure of a full tank that lessens as it grows empty.
Hello, Is this fuel gauge good for honda hornet? My motorbike is a cb600f, but haven't got fuel sensor.
No, it was designed specifically for the Valkyrie....
Hi can you send a link to his site also how much was the kit
+Smurf9676 , the URL is in the notes of the video. Just click the Show More button. I honestly don't remember the price, it's been a while...
The system is no longer available :(
sadly the sellers page is down...
Was this kit a vakyrie specific one?
Or could i have installed it on a 1996 Honda magna?
Two things: the Valkyrie has a 5 gallon tank, and is gravity fed.
If I remember correctly, the old school Magna had a fuel pump, and a 3.5 gallon tank.
If so, the stepper motor in the gauge would need to be calibrated for a different output from the pressure sensor.
Also, the bike would need to have the gravity feed conversion some guys used to do to bypass their fuel pump.
For you, I think there's a simpler solution.
You can replace your gas tank from a year that came with the stock gauge.
Then you could just buy any third party gauge to plug into that.
No need for a custom, hand built solution.
For the Valks, used tanks with a fuel sensor still sell for around $800 or more, so it was actually cheaper to go this route.
Plus, it's kind of fun to have something completely custom!
Good luck!
Leonardo Harrell alright let me try that
Cheers
Where did you order this from
I've searched but can't seem to find where I can order it from
check the comments below. This one isn't available anymore. It was handmade by a man who passed away. But there are several mentions of what to search for to find one like it. good luck!
Can the VALVE ASSY., EVAP EMISSION CARB AIR VENT CONTROL17300-MZ0-771 be bypassed?
Hmm, if I recall that's the part number for the entire carbeurator assembly. And of course that can't be bypassed.
But maybe it's for the emissions system? If so, then yes. On my bike it's been bypassed and those parts were removed.
@@lyunardo essentially the pstt look lile a ( T ) with a vaccim pprt that operates a membrane. All thst ends down on the collection canisters. If i substitute it for with a plain ( T ) the canister fill gas. I am thinking on removing all from the canister up. Is that Ok?
I know this is probably a longshot cause this video‘s been out quite some time however I would love to find that fuel gauge seeing how I just purchased my 98 Valkyrie which I’ve been looking for for a long time if there’s anyway you could send me a link to that gauge I would much appreciate it and it was a great video
Unfortunately, the engineer who used to build these died a while back and this isn't available anymore.
Good news is that, since I made this video there's a few companies who sell something similar. If you google something like "hydrostatic fuel gauge motorcycle" you'll find a few options out there.
Good luck.
@@lyunardo thank you for the info sorry to hear about the passing of this gentleman
How much did this cost for him to put together and send you? I need one for my 2003 honda shadow spirit vt750dc
Unfortunately, Joop died last year.
There are several other similar systems. Check the comments below for links.
Do you know of anyone else that makes this DIY kit, or if there is another product on the market that would do the same? It looks like the creator isn't doing well and has shut down his site.
I've heard of guys who take the gas tank from a similar bike that does have a gauge, then install a third party gauge built to connect to it. I like my own tank too much to trade it out though.
good luck.
Yes, guys from LSK Motorcycle Electronics makes gauges on this principle!
Were can I purchase the gas ga
I would like to know what company made the sending unit and what does he call it on his instructions. I have everything else I need, just can't find anything to use as a sending unit.
me too buddy....meee tooo
Don't you mean this? www.lskelectronics.com/fuelgaugeprouni
Is this unit universal too any bike ? Or specific bikes only ?
This one is calibrate for that specific tank. Now there are other brands available online for other bikes. People have posted in the comments, so you can find there.
Or yo can just google something like "fuel pressure fuel gauge", and the name of your bike. Good luck.
Can you send a link to the kit. I can't find it
I don't believe this exists anymore. I emailed the guy from the site mentioned and no reply :(
please let me know if you find something like that or joop come back
Where can you buy this unit
. Does any one know?
DJ Savage, unfortunately the last time I talked to Joop he was dealing with cancer.
I don't know how he's doing with that.
In the past he kept the schematics to build this on his site. I'm confident I could build this on my own, but I KNOW my electronics skills aren't good enough to do it without the schematics.
There are some alternatives available online.
Just Google "3rd party fuel gauge" for your bike name.
Good luck.
hi where can I buy that fuel gauge kit
Check out the comments section. This one is no longer available, but there are others that work basically the same. A Google search for something like "fuel pressure gas gauge" might help too.
What is in the middle 0:54 Orange lights? Turn indicator?
voltmeter. Very handy if you have a lot of extra electronics installed. Especially for the winter months when I plug in the heated suit. Never want to get caught with a drained battery. I replaced it with a digital readout later.
@@lyunardo Nice, would look nice as fuel gauge or gear indicator. Cheers Philip from Norway
@@philip4588 actually it's just a generic meter. It It can be out of those things, depending on the sending unit you attach. It was cheap too
Hi there, i don't know if you're active on this, but i am thinking about buying a rather cheap chinese ATV, it's in pretty good working order and has the specs i want, except there isn't a gas guage. So I was thinking would it also be possible to add a guage to it, or?
Hey Bluezz,
Yeah I was lucky to get get some of Joop's gadgets before he retired.
Here's some options for you to look into.
Anything you do will probably need some fabrication and DIY skills. Good luck.
1. The simplest method is to find a generic "float level fuel gauge" with a hollow ball that rises with your gas level. You would probably need to modify your gas cap to somehow fit this into your tank. Here's an example, but I'm not recommending that specific one.
www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks-parts-lookup/part/simplicity/2156175sm?gclid=cj0kcqjwl7nybrcwarisal7o7dfbxicgku0-ihnhrhptgt2-ghhloy_87eztbm62dwqfilskwyiftssaatt5ealw_wcb
2. There are other pressure based fuel gauges like this one: www.lskelectronics.com/fuelgaugepro1
I don't know anything about them at all. I looked at several a few years ago, but wanted something that looked like the existing instruments on my old school bike.
Leonardo Harrell yeah, i'm at at any of those skills
Hey, i looked at the links you sent, and I'm pretty sure that the pressure based one would be the right choice for me since it doesnt recuire modifications
BluezZ, whatever you go with, I hope you'll let us know.
Leonardo Harrell Yeah, of course.
Joop is currently recovering from illness and cannot do gauges at present.
Sadly that person in Netherlands is not there anylonger. I wish you could share the instruction with rest of us
Getreal, the schematics were up on Joop's website before he got sick, but now the site is completely empty.
I spent some time reading through the circuit diagrams, but if I actually download any of them, I didn't keep them.
As I said, I was planning to build from scratch. But when I contacted Joop with a question, he offered to build for me and I jumped at the chance.
@@lyunardo Leo thank you for getting back to me, well if you have some idea give it a shot since you have lots of pay willing Valkyrie owners here and broad. I am personally very interested, another issue I was going to ask you is installation of gear indicator if you have it and any recommendation. BTW you have an awesome looking Valk. I guess you already knew that😀
GETREAL!
I want to see the circuit diagram as well. I’m planning on building one.
GETREAL! I
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Where can I get one ??
This one was just hand made by the engineer who created it.
Now there are several different companies who make something similar.
If you look through the comments, a few companies were mentioned.
Or you can just google something like "pressure sensor fuel gauge for motorcycles"
Good luck
What’s the part number
Unfortunately Joop died. Me and some other people put some alternatives in the comments below. You shouldn't have to scroll too far to find them. Good luck
In the future show us the details of the install, not the after effect.
In the future you should build a bike. Then make a video about it. Then you can put anything you want in it.
In the meantime, thanks for watching mine. I'll continue to make the videos I like to. Feel free to check em out. Or not.
It's been a while since I made that video, so I just looked at it again. I literally spent 12 minutes giving every single detail of the device and the install. Including every tool, and what it was for. I even explained the scientific principle behind how the parts work.
You're not obligated to watch any of my videos. But you probably want to take a peek before making comments though.
I hate to say this but either this guy is single or his wife don't like to ride and she lets him spend as much as he wants on his ride which if that's the case your a lucky man dude
lol. I was single back then. But I never had a relationship where I had to get permission to do my hobbies. Me and my lady are both creative, so we expect that we'll be spending time on projects.
Bad a$$ looking bike !!!