I work at a local store and we have a lot of people who do this. The best way to view it is like going out to have a beer with friend. You don't come home with a beer but you enjoy the night out and the bar scene. People don't have a turntable, but they LOVE coming to a music store and having a "VINYL BEER": talking about music, looking through the MILLIONS of memories on the shelf, picking out ones that make them excited, making some of their musical love tangle, etc. EVEN IF playing the record is left out. They LOVE just coming in and have a "vinyl beer" or two each week.
I'm 54 and still had my small collection of records from the 80s, when I started to collect again around 2009. I'm in Canada and back then at a live show, I remember I could buy a CD or vinyl to support the indie band I was seeing and both were $15 CAD, so at this point I opted for the vinyl (especially if the art work was impressive). All to say, I amassed a collection with the full intention of eventually playing them again. I eventually picked up my first of half a dozen thrift turntables, and eventually I bought a used Rega RP1 about 10-12 years ago and it's what I use to this day. I had read about not "ruining" vinyl by playing them on inferior decks with bad / old needles, so I admit I didn't actually play any of my 'new' records until I bought the Rega and upgraded the needle. I remember reading a few people commenting on Reddit that they thought it was silly to buy records without first investing in a turntable. However, like you, I have to watch my expenditures and I took my time to find the right 'deal' for me. As well, some of those early records I bought at concerts were exclusives (I didn't know it at the time) that really shot up in value and especially back when I started collecting, were either out of print for a decade and in at least one case I can think of, have never and might never get a repress (and are now worth a couple of hundred dollars). That was my return to vinyl journey and reasoning at the time. Cheers!
I just picked up a NAD C588 turntable great unit! Upgraded the 2M Red to 2M Blue for a grand what a great sound! I also have my 1983 Harman Kardon T40 still in absolutely perfect condition. What a classic!
In my opinion, among those who DON'T have a turntable/record player and collect vinyl, I think they collect them for mostly the artwork and, like you said, the "missing out on a trend" factor. I see stores selling vinyl record frames at pop trend stores like FYE and other places that sell vinyl records.
My first thought when I heard the study was, there are people who buy records and have access to a turntable (they live in a home/or frequently visit one where there is a turntable), but if they answered a survey, they’d say they didn’t own one.
Thanks for another interesting video. I really enjoy your videos. I love the turntables and reel to reel tape recorders. It has something magic to see these machines in action. Although i almost only use streaming music nowadays, listening to music from vinyl or reel to reel tape makes it much more special.
This is what I've gone to. I'll buy the CD if i really like it and Quality digital/ good DAC is simpler than a good vinyl setup. It's nice to have a collection of just favorites since I tend to turn into a hoarder/ deal chaser otherwise.
I've invested in a nice lower tier TT, but have upgraded the platter, cartridge to mc, a new weight for the heavier mc cartridge. I have had and listened to lps since the 70s. I already have an electic collection in good shape, many that are hard to find. The thing is I have built up my audio collection and gear over the years, that was the only way I could do it. I have just set up a nuc to run roon as a server to a used PS Audio single bit DSD. The new 24bit hd FLAC, hate to say it, has the depth, soundstage and clarity as my mc phono with tube phonostage and integrated amp. Tidal has a lot of music, BUT I have a lot not on Tidal. Once the trend changes for streaming HD, I will still have my albums.
A single disc LP album in 1975 cost $7.50. That is $45 dollars in today's money. Records I purchased in the early 70s still sound awesome today. CDs are cheaper than vinyl, but vinyl isn't expensive. Most LPs cost between 20 and 30 dollars.
Well things should have gotten cheaper. I hate this comparison price vs. Decade most things get cheaper.the real price hike is price gouging and the lack of investing in new plants
Collecting is cool, although I don't really partake. I collect *music* not media. There is a FOMO element because I prefer to get the nicest edition. Sometimes that means getting a CD in a gatefold or digibook format which may not be in print for long. I pre-ordered the digibook version of Travis' new CD which just arrived this week!
I owned a turntable for a long time and had a mid range turntable AtLP120. I sold it and was looking to buy a higher end one, but I dont have a great space in my place to put it so I haven’t picked one up yet. I do still occasionally buy records to play with the rest of my collection, when I do buy it. Also, and good suggestions?
@@BackForwardPunch you could think about a Rega turntable and a Rega wall shelf, (Pro-ject also do shelves), fixing a turntable to a wall saves a lot of space, and can be very advantageous to how they sound. Cheers!
Thank you,, you mention a reason that i haven't thought of yet. The record as a gift. I don't know anybody who's buying records wihtout having a record player. But to be part of the AAA community and discussing on the german AAA (audio analogue association) board: somtimes people buy some records first and it just takes time till they found the recordplayer that suits them. Shouldn't it say "50% of vinyl record byers don't own a truntable (yet)"? I also know some people who have records but don't own a record player anymore...they switched to other formats or are not invested in musi listening that way anymore. A ot of them are coming back and buy a turntable.
GM from Toronto…because it’s the hipster thing to do ….and if they do have a record player…it’s a Crosley (suit case all in one ) ..and not a LIN ..let alone a mid tier stereo system. Now you’re right …collecting is great 👍..but using is so much better.
I think turntables are works of art. I haven't bought an LP since 1985 since my wife surprised me with a CD player. I am buying a new house and I am going to have to clean out my store room. I'll bet my turntable is in there. Maybe I'll find somebody that needs one.
Hi Bruce. Do you still have your Linton's? I didn't see them in the background. Perhaps they are with a different system? If you did get rid of them, I would like to know why. I hope you and your family are well.
An interesting video, thanks! But I absolutely don't believe the 50% statistic, my experience in London would place the percentage far lower, probably around 10-25%. Certainly if one looked at the cohort of buyers over 30 in age, it may even be in single figures. This 50% number has been bandied about for years, with little credibility among experienced buyers of records. Cheers!
@@TheBoomerConsumer actually the floor in my appartment is vinyl. When someone ask me about the material and i answer "vinyl" they reply "really?" and i answer "well i can't walk over cds...they don't always get it.
I work at a local store and we have a lot of people who do this. The best way to view it is like going out to have a beer with friend. You don't come home with a beer but you enjoy the night out and the bar scene. People don't have a turntable, but they LOVE coming to a music store and having a "VINYL BEER": talking about music, looking through the MILLIONS of memories on the shelf, picking out ones that make them excited, making some of their musical love tangle, etc. EVEN IF playing the record is left out. They LOVE just coming in and have a "vinyl beer" or two each week.
Thanks for the input!
I'm 54 and still had my small collection of records from the 80s, when I started to collect again around 2009. I'm in Canada and back then at a live show, I remember I could buy a CD or vinyl to support the indie band I was seeing and both were $15 CAD, so at this point I opted for the vinyl (especially if the art work was impressive). All to say, I amassed a collection with the full intention of eventually playing them again. I eventually picked up my first of half a dozen thrift turntables, and eventually I bought a used Rega RP1 about 10-12 years ago and it's what I use to this day. I had read about not "ruining" vinyl by playing them on inferior decks with bad / old needles, so I admit I didn't actually play any of my 'new' records until I bought the Rega and upgraded the needle. I remember reading a few people commenting on Reddit that they thought it was silly to buy records without first investing in a turntable. However, like you, I have to watch my expenditures and I took my time to find the right 'deal' for me. As well, some of those early records I bought at concerts were exclusives (I didn't know it at the time) that really shot up in value and especially back when I started collecting, were either out of print for a decade and in at least one case I can think of, have never and might never get a repress (and are now worth a couple of hundred dollars). That was my return to vinyl journey and reasoning at the time. Cheers!
I just picked up a NAD C588 turntable great unit! Upgraded the 2M Red to 2M Blue for a grand what a great sound! I also have my 1983 Harman Kardon T40 still in absolutely perfect condition. What a classic!
My best friend collects vinyl, he has turntables, but he doesn't play a lot of the vinyl he collects.
In my opinion, among those who DON'T have a turntable/record player and collect vinyl, I think they collect them for mostly the artwork and, like you said, the "missing out on a trend" factor. I see stores selling vinyl record frames at pop trend stores like FYE and other places that sell vinyl records.
My first thought when I heard the study was, there are people who buy records and have access to a turntable (they live in a home/or frequently visit one where there is a turntable), but if they answered a survey, they’d say they didn’t own one.
Good point
I am a CD person but I love love looking at the art work on the records I find it really cool
Great video
Thanks for another interesting video. I really enjoy your videos.
I love the turntables and reel to reel tape recorders. It has something magic to see these machines in action. Although i almost only use streaming music nowadays, listening to music from vinyl or reel to reel tape makes it much more special.
Even cd 💿..a nice transport and DAC 👍
I use steaming as a great library..and if I like it ..I’ll buy a physical copy.
This is what I've gone to. I'll buy the CD if i really like it and Quality digital/ good DAC is simpler than a good vinyl setup. It's nice to have a collection of just favorites since I tend to turn into a hoarder/ deal chaser otherwise.
I've invested in a nice lower tier TT, but have upgraded the platter, cartridge to mc, a new weight for the heavier mc cartridge. I have had and listened to lps since the 70s. I already have an electic collection in good shape, many that are hard to find. The thing is I have built up my audio collection and gear over the years, that was the only way I could do it. I have just set up a nuc to run roon as a server to a used PS Audio single bit DSD. The new 24bit hd FLAC, hate to say it, has the depth, soundstage and clarity as my mc phono with tube phonostage and integrated amp. Tidal has a lot of music, BUT I have a lot not on Tidal. Once the trend changes for streaming HD, I will still have my albums.
cool poster in the background
And many many people Buy lps telling " Are better than cd's!!" , and play it on a Crosley with ceramic cartridge and terrible transport 😂😂
Thanx!, cheers from Buenos Aires Argentina 🤙
A single disc LP album in 1975 cost $7.50. That is $45 dollars in today's money. Records I purchased in the early 70s still sound awesome today. CDs are cheaper than vinyl, but vinyl isn't expensive. Most LPs cost between 20 and 30 dollars.
Well things should have gotten cheaper. I hate this comparison price vs. Decade most things get cheaper.the real price hike is price gouging and the lack of investing in new plants
Collecting is cool, although I don't really partake. I collect *music* not media. There is a FOMO element because I prefer to get the nicest edition. Sometimes that means getting a CD in a gatefold or digibook format which may not be in print for long. I pre-ordered the digibook version of Travis' new CD which just arrived this week!
I owned a turntable for a long time and had a mid range turntable AtLP120. I sold it and was looking to buy a higher end one, but I dont have a great space in my place to put it so I haven’t picked one up yet. I do still occasionally buy records to play with the rest of my collection, when I do buy it. Also, and good suggestions?
@@BackForwardPunch you could think about a Rega turntable and a Rega wall shelf, (Pro-ject also do shelves), fixing a turntable to a wall saves a lot of space, and can be very advantageous to how they sound. Cheers!
My god you have KITT in the room!
Thank you,, you mention a reason that i haven't thought of yet. The record as a gift. I don't know anybody who's buying records wihtout having a record player. But to be part of the AAA community and discussing on the german AAA (audio analogue association) board: somtimes people buy some records first and it just takes time till they found the recordplayer that suits them. Shouldn't it say "50% of vinyl record byers don't own a truntable (yet)"?
I also know some people who have records but don't own a record player anymore...they switched to other formats or are not invested in musi listening that way anymore. A ot of them are coming back and buy a turntable.
GM from Toronto…because it’s the hipster thing to do ….and if they do have a record player…it’s a Crosley (suit case all in one ) ..and not a LIN ..let alone a mid tier stereo system.
Now you’re right …collecting is great 👍..but using is so much better.
I think turntables are works of art. I haven't bought an LP since 1985 since my wife surprised me with a CD player. I am buying a new house and I am going to have to clean out my store room. I'll bet my turntable is in there. Maybe I'll find somebody that needs one.
Hi Bruce. Do you still have your Linton's? I didn't see them in the background. Perhaps they are with a different system? If you did get rid of them, I would like to know why. I hope you and your family are well.
Still have them, just not in the shot
@@TheBoomerConsumer Thank you for responding. Cheers!!!
An interesting video, thanks! But I absolutely don't believe the 50% statistic, my experience in London would place the percentage far lower, probably around 10-25%. Certainly if one looked at the cohort of buyers over 30 in age, it may even be in single figures. This 50% number has been bandied about for years, with little credibility among experienced buyers of records. Cheers!
I still think that owning vinyl's without a turntable to listen to them is crazy 😅 sorry!
"Vinyl Record" the word "Vinyl" is superfluous, "the vinyl community" sounds like a group of people into flooring.
lol or siding business
@@TheBoomerConsumer actually the floor in my appartment is vinyl. When someone ask me about the material and i answer "vinyl" they reply "really?" and i answer "well i can't walk over cds...they don't always get it.
😂
It's the same reason 98% of the people who buy pro sports memorabilia don't play pro sports. People like to collect stuff.
Wait, what? Accidotal? Hmm no. You must have meant anecdotal.
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