Once Human has its biggest update, UPDATE 1.3 IS coming with the Way Of Winter but does it have an identity crisis? we talk about the big things coming and some issues Once Human is facing. 0:00 intro 1:04 The Way Of Winter Exclusive details 4:32 Identity Crisis pvp vs pve 7:59 Exploitative cacha loot crates 9:13 performance issues 10:37 summary
Red Flag raised when they nerfed doom bringer IMO. They nerfed the gun for PVP but didn''t consider what will happen on PVE. It's like they want to focus on a certain audience then they will recieve a blcklash then they cater again to the other audience. I wish they can choose one thing to focus on like how they focus on 600$ skins lol
100%. They don't have a vision for the game, they're just developing based on what "vibes" they get from the community. The blueprint conversion system was my first red flag. The game already doesn't have progression, starchrom was the only thing you had to kinda define your character. Devaluing that without introducing some kind of alternative progression or end game just isn't a good way to design a rewarding game.
idk what yall complaining about, it's still amazing for most PVE stuff and it's super strong as tank PVP. Pre nerf doombringer was completely OP but yeah, meta chasers like to have dumb broken builds. FYI 5 shell doombringer deals even higher dps than pre nerf doom, 4 shell is great too
The fastest way to cause issues is try to bring in the PVP base to a PVE game. People into PVP heavy are a different breed. You have a fairly large Guild or Clan that goes from game to game to dominate the rag-tag smaller groups and solo's that are there.
They need to make money sure but 600€ for a skin for you car.....? Thats insanity right there. Lower the prices of skins severaly and they will find that they will make alot more money in the end.
Yeah ima take a break from PvP for a bit to do this event I like being a PvP and pve enjoyer I enjoy PvP more but I love pve content as well so I’ll just be jumping back and forth between the two if it keeps going this way but I would hope they would start catering to both at the same time I think it’s so nobody misses out on content but they aren’t going about it the correct way
This is good news for me. I have personally avoided PVP servers, simply because every PVP experience I've had in the PVE servers has lagged really badly, so I can't imagine how bad it must be on PVP servers.
Why won't this this game run at higher resolution? My screen is 1920x1200. And this game is the only one I have that won't even try to run in that resolution. It's some odd lower number. I know the devs mentioned adding higher rez support in an update.
Lets be honest, this game is 72% busy work as content , away from the grind , the other 28% clear strongholds , 6 Silos , 5 Monolith bosses. That being said this new map seems to be smaller with with less content and alot more busy work, so not really that excited
I think they would split more people if they release PvP and PvE updates at the same tiime. Now you could play PvE on release and your server was done when Prismverse was released and you could join that to check on what PvP feels like and get back to PvE on this update. If this came same time as PvP update all PvE players would choose these servers and not even test PvP.
Yeah but no pve players had fun on prisma from the looks of it. It just turns players off being forced to pvp if they have no choice 😅 I think just having "way of winter" pvp or pve would work better then no one misses out.
@@HOD Fair enough, but that should be only from the next update. Or better it should have been the case from the 1st new scenario Prismverse, you can't pretend 1/3-1/2 of your playerbase sticks for 2 months to the same scanrio (Manibus) to then end up being forced in a mixed PvE+PvP one. I tried PvP, it simply is unplayable for me either I die with no idea who shot me (not rendered/loaded yet) or the opposite, neither is riveting content, an in the few instances where that didn;t happen... lagfest slideshow. This is to say most PvE players don't even like the tiny PvP events on Manibus, can't hope they'd stick around in a more PvP focused scenario.
i still think they should just focus on PVE, the desync is crazy not fun doing pvp and people are exploiting just to get advantage, they can just make an arena in the game or have a zone where its a full loot pvp, they will need more work to figure out the pvp scenario than a pve, also just sell the skin bundle for 70$ stop the loot crates
I get where you're coming from but you cannot mix PvE and PvP, that's the golden rule. You do that you kill 66% of your player base. What they should do is to release a PvP version of the Way of the Winter, just like we had with Manibus & Evolution's Call. I personally did not give a flying fkuc for the Primeverse Clash and will not play a PvP scenario whatsoever. Folks who wanna shoot each other should have their own Way of Winter server, us carebears separate and doing carebear things.
If there just adding a campfire now then this game is no where close to being done. Idk I’ll play in a year tbh I dont like how we don’t have access to the hole map👎
your saying you want gambling in? I definatley like to buy skins and support but vie stopped now with the gambling crates because its not worth it. so i just think one off skin payments will work better and they will make more money. you don't want them to stop trying to exploit us?
I think tbh pvp has the most replayability from my experience because every playthrough is different. I think pve players finish the content and get bored and pvp stay longer for the pvp fights. Just my experience coming from Ark
Zero interest in a full pve scenario. Let’s be real no pvpers are playing this anymore. Jaws in the game still is a joke. Stagger PvP is so toxic and no skill needed. NW relaunch it is lol
Still lots of pvp man. Had a blast this season still. jaws is annoying but with saviour armorial it's fine imo I have no issues against it. But yeah they need to get the pvp side balanced.i reckon they will get there. I'm keen for new world too 😅
@@HOD wish ya was able to play Na. New world should be fun for a month which might time well with winter pve scenario ending. Tough to balance once hunan for full loot. They would need to hard wipe so no one has mods or bps. Tough task.
@@raymondtrinkle3Biggest is problem lag, optimization, server just mess when is like 5 or more people in same area, balance in Prism clash.. They should just add hive vs hive, remove farming Prism deviants add them just in events and stroholds what will improve pvp. Not just in edge farming for them. I mean they dont have intersted to add matchmaking system like 4vs4 or something idk why.
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Once Human has its biggest update, UPDATE 1.3 IS coming with the Way Of Winter but does it have an identity crisis? we talk about the big things coming and some issues Once Human is facing.
0:00 intro
1:04 The Way Of Winter Exclusive details
4:32 Identity Crisis pvp vs pve
7:59 Exploitative cacha loot crates
9:13 performance issues
10:37 summary
Red Flag raised when they nerfed doom bringer IMO. They nerfed the gun for PVP but didn''t consider what will happen on PVE. It's like they want to focus on a certain audience then they will recieve a blcklash then they cater again to the other audience. I wish they can choose one thing to focus on like how they focus on 600$ skins lol
yeah exactly it feels like they don't know what audience to appeal too and then end up barely appealing to either
100%. They don't have a vision for the game, they're just developing based on what "vibes" they get from the community. The blueprint conversion system was my first red flag. The game already doesn't have progression, starchrom was the only thing you had to kinda define your character. Devaluing that without introducing some kind of alternative progression or end game just isn't a good way to design a rewarding game.
This is what happens in every game that has pve and pvp. I seen it a thousand times in destiny 2. You’re thinking way too much into it.
idk what yall complaining about, it's still amazing for most PVE stuff and it's super strong as tank PVP.
Pre nerf doombringer was completely OP but yeah, meta chasers like to have dumb broken builds.
FYI 5 shell doombringer deals even higher dps than pre nerf doom, 4 shell is great too
Current scenario literally just needed a balanced selection team mechanic . Our server is 700 to 3k
yeah exactly it was actually really fun just a few things need changing
One good thing about PvE is you can mess around with stupid builds instead of going meta ^^
yeah that will be fun im looking forward to finally playing around with builds haha
The fastest way to cause issues is try to bring in the PVP base to a PVE game. People into PVP heavy are a different breed. You have a fairly large Guild or Clan that goes from game to game to dominate the rag-tag smaller groups and solo's that are there.
Play rust and stfu
What impact and benefit will a PvP guild have in a pve server? Only concern should be the cargo shuffle
@@iKRPictures It won't because they will be on the PVP servers.
@@charlesoutdoors2424 99.99% of the PvP players are literally heading to this winter pve story
@@iKRPictures It's a mute point on a PVE server.
They need to make money sure but 600€ for a skin for you car.....? Thats insanity right there. Lower the prices of skins severaly and they will find that they will make alot more money in the end.
yep exactly because i was spending a lot more before they started these crates
Shooting the invisible dummy for the preview has to be peak Once Human lmao.
Yeah ima take a break from PvP for a bit to do this event I like being a PvP and pve enjoyer I enjoy PvP more but I love pve content as well so I’ll just be jumping back and forth between the two if it keeps going this way but I would hope they would start catering to both at the same time I think it’s so nobody misses out on content but they aren’t going about it the correct way
This is good news for me. I have personally avoided PVP servers, simply because every PVP experience I've had in the PVE servers has lagged really badly, so I can't imagine how bad it must be on PVP servers.
Why won't this this game run at higher resolution? My screen is 1920x1200. And this game is the only one I have that won't even try to run in that resolution. It's some odd lower number.
I know the devs mentioned adding higher rez support in an update.
Mine works for my ultra wide 1440 np
@@seas1392 hmm. Idk if my game is bugged. It just runs some odd resolution. That's much lower then my native rez and won't let me turn it up
people can raid player bases in pve?? or did i hear that wrong
sorry i explained that poorly i was talking between the two the way of winter is just pve no raiding
Lets be honest, this game is 72% busy work as content , away from the grind , the other 28% clear strongholds , 6 Silos , 5 Monolith bosses.
That being said this new map seems to be smaller with with less content and alot more busy work, so not really that excited
its dumb to make the distinguishment. they are doing fine. pvp players can pve. pve players can pvp. there is no point.
i mean we can pve but we dont want to. i play once human to pvp. but they should just have optional pvp baseline for sure stop splitting them all
I think they would split more people if they release PvP and PvE updates at the same tiime. Now you could play PvE on release and your server was done when Prismverse was released and you could join that to check on what PvP feels like and get back to PvE on this update. If this came same time as PvP update all PvE players would choose these servers and not even test PvP.
Yeah but no pve players had fun on prisma from the looks of it. It just turns players off being forced to pvp if they have no choice 😅 I think just having "way of winter" pvp or pve would work better then no one misses out.
@@HOD Fair enough, but that should be only from the next update.
Or better it should have been the case from the 1st new scenario Prismverse, you can't pretend 1/3-1/2 of your playerbase sticks for 2 months to the same scanrio (Manibus) to then end up being forced in a mixed PvE+PvP one.
I tried PvP, it simply is unplayable for me either I die with no idea who shot me (not rendered/loaded yet) or the opposite, neither is riveting content, an in the few instances where that didn;t happen... lagfest slideshow.
This is to say most PvE players don't even like the tiny PvP events on Manibus, can't hope they'd stick around in a more PvP focused scenario.
I think the mobile is also being released on the 17th
oh wow that will be good i didnt see that thanks for info
i still think they should just focus on PVE, the desync is crazy not fun doing pvp and people are exploiting just to get advantage, they can just make an arena in the game or have a zone where its a full loot pvp, they will need more work to figure out the pvp scenario than a pve, also just sell the skin bundle for 70$ stop the loot crates
Great game trying to do everything whilst making bank. Lets hope this goes well because I'm back on DayZ.
yeah i think its the make or break moment for sure i hope they pull it together because there is potential still
DayZ it is❤
I get where you're coming from but you cannot mix PvE and PvP, that's the golden rule. You do that you kill 66% of your player base. What they should do is to release a PvP version of the Way of the Winter, just like we had with Manibus & Evolution's Call. I personally did not give a flying fkuc for the Primeverse Clash and will not play a PvP scenario whatsoever. Folks who wanna shoot each other should have their own Way of Winter server, us carebears separate and doing carebear things.
yeah thats all i mean i agree dont force pve to pvp but have a pvp server seperate
If there just adding a campfire now then this game is no where close to being done. Idk I’ll play in a year tbh I dont like how we don’t have access to the hole map👎
They basically had it but it was just attached to the camp. The game has so much content it's crazy if you haven't played.
Hod's back on ark!? 😜
nearly :P bob messaged me im tempted lol
8:56 Paypiggy is mad 😭😭😭😭
wrong attitude chief. but yeah go ahead and let them exploit you lol
your saying you want gambling in? I definatley like to buy skins and support but vie stopped now with the gambling crates because its not worth it. so i just think one off skin payments will work better and they will make more money. you don't want them to stop trying to exploit us?
@@HOD YWNBAW paypiggy
This game is weird
yeah i think they need to figure out what their goal is :D
It’s pretty good tho
yeah its so good i just hope they find their direction for pvp :D
Bro all they do is sell more loot crates.
yeah i mention this in the vid i hope they stop with pushing them so hard
prismverse is bullshit, cant even get the rare deviants
PVE players didn't drop off because PVE is repayable and consistent, PVP in all games eventually hits a brick wall.
I think tbh pvp has the most replayability from my experience because every playthrough is different. I think pve players finish the content and get bored and pvp stay longer for the pvp fights. Just my experience coming from Ark
@@HOD PVE always gets more content, PVP is always the same, shoot people, get loot, repeat
Zero interest in a full pve scenario. Let’s be real no pvpers are playing this anymore. Jaws in the game still is a joke. Stagger PvP is so toxic and no skill needed. NW relaunch it is lol
Still lots of pvp man. Had a blast this season still. jaws is annoying but with saviour armorial it's fine imo I have no issues against it. But yeah they need to get the pvp side balanced.i reckon they will get there. I'm keen for new world too 😅
@@HOD what pvp is in winter scenario? Clash lasted a week for me before it was toxically boring.
@@HOD wish ya was able to play Na. New world should be fun for a month which might time well with winter pve scenario ending. Tough to balance once hunan for full loot. They would need to hard wipe so no one has mods or bps. Tough task.
@@raymondtrinkle3Biggest is problem lag, optimization, server just mess when is like 5 or more people in same area, balance in Prism clash.. They should just add hive vs hive, remove farming Prism deviants add them just in events and stroholds what will improve pvp. Not just in edge farming for them. I mean they dont have intersted to add matchmaking system like 4vs4 or something idk why.